Hi all, I feel like I'm completely lost at how Android or Samsung designed this.
First to clarify, I have the SGH-T989 with a 16GB microSD plugged in.
Under "Settings" - "Storage", I can see three categories: "SD card", "USB storage", and "System storage". It reports the size of my microSD card under "SD card", then it seems to divide what I understand is the internal memory into two parts: "USB storage" and "System storage". So "USB storage" has a total space of 11.25GB, and "System storage" has a space of 1.9GB.
What does it mean by "USB storage"?
And also, under "Applications" - "Manage applications" - "On SD card" tab, it is reporting the size of the "USB storage" on this tab. It seems to think the "USB storage" (which from what I understand is actually part of the internal memory) is the "SD card", and not treat my real microSD card as the "SD card". More importantly, if I move some app from system storage to SD card by clicking on "Move to SD card", it will be moved to the "USB storage" instead of my real microSD card. What is going on here? Does it mean that I'll never be able to really move an app to my real microSD card? Then what's the use of an external SD card?
System storage is simply where your apps are installed. usb storage is technically just your onboard storage. so if you move the app to USB storage it is technically no longer in the system storage. To me it's a good thing. I like to keep my actual external sd card for movies and pictures and music. Also those apps should still be pretty fast as they not on the slower sd card. ...
This is just how I would explain it to a friend.
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Well for me it is actually different....if i'm moving app to SD then it is going to external SD and not the USB storage. Is there some setting which i need to change so that it move the apps to USB storage and not external SD.
edited post I thought i could trick the system into letting move and app to internal sd by unmounting the external sd card but it didnt work.
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Actually the "Move to SD card" will move the app from system storage to external SD card, not the USB storage.
android4sunny said:
Well for me it is actually different....if i'm moving app to SD then it is going to external SD and not the USB storage. Is there some setting which i need to change so that it move the apps to USB storage and not external SD.
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You are right. I was wrong.
I'm curious why the storege is so very low. Isn't the phone 16GB? 11.25 of which 8.9 open is low.
the rest of the space has been partitioned for the internal apps
But I can only use the 1.9G to store my apps out of the 16G internal storage? If I move apps to SD card they get moved to the external SD card. Is there a way to move them to the rest of the internal storage (which is called "USB storage" on the phone)?
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But I can only use the 1.9G to store my apps out of the 16G internal storage? If I move apps to SD card they get moved to the external SD card. Is there a way to move them to the rest of the internal storage (which is called "USB storage" on the phone)?
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You mean when you move to SD card it actually gets moved to the USB drive, right? I don't like the way Samsung did this. We should have be able to move app or anything else to either internal, USB, or SD card. If we root will be able to do this?
I have the AT&T SGS2 and I'm wondering the same thing. I don't have an external SD card and my system storage is about to get full. I still have 9GB free in my USB storage but there doesn't seem to be a way to move my apps from system storage to USB storage. What do I do? Why is it partitioned this way?
Firepac said:
I have the AT&T SGS2 and I'm wondering the same thing. I don't have an external SD card and my system storage is about to get full. I still have 9GB free in my USB storage but there doesn't seem to be a way to move my apps from system storage to USB storage. What do I do? Why is it partitioned this way?
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I'm actually wondering about the same thing. Although it claims it has 16GB internal storage the actual size that we can install apps is just 1.9G, rest of it is partitioned as some kind of USB storage that can't be used to install apps, very annoying...
Also I only have about 20 apps installed on my system storage and they're all about a few MBs each. I only have about 400MBs of system storage is free. What could be taking up so much space?
Edit: Okay just found that a few games were storing their data on the system storage even though the system says it's installed on USB...
USB = System Internal Storage
try to move as much stuff as you can to the External SD card
\sdcard\external_sd\
that's how it looks like when you install stuff
^typical XDA...ask simple question, get incorrect answer, LOVE IT. By the way this is a thread i SEARCHED GOOGLE FOR, while being told by another XDA member to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE in a different thread.....sweet
so let me rephrase the goddamn question(s)
WHY WHEN WE MOVE APP TO SD CARD DOES THE PHONE MOVE THE APP TO THE REMOVABLE microSD CARD AND NOT INSTEAD USE THE INTERNAL STORAGE (11.2GB) WHICH IS MORE PLENTIFUL THAN THE 1.9GB SUPPLIED?
when running some apps/games from a microSD card they cause force closes, data loss, and other wacky things to occur. <- is WHY we dont want them stored there...
IS THERE A WAY TO SELECT TO USE THE INTERNAL SD CARD (11.2GB INSTEAD?
...not as far as i can tell, ive tried it all includng removng the microSD card and attempting to install an app, the phone says not enough space even though i had 1.9GBs remaining in the "USB Storage" partition
The T989 SHOULD fil the INTERNAL CARD FIRST in my opinion....
i have over 200 apps/games on my device and ive only had it for ~2 months no media, only apps/games and i have 200mb remaining in the partition allocated for apps and 1.9GB remaining in the "USB Storage" partiton,....I DONT want apps/games stored on my 64GB microSD card, i remove it often, thats where my media is stored....
heres another kicker, the T989 reports a low memory warning and inabilty to store apps in the Intenal (1.9GB) partition at ~200mb, even though most apps are FAR smaller than anything that would impact that remaining space
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WHY WHEN WE MOVE APP TO SD CARD DOES THE PHONE MOVE THE APP TO THE REMOVABLE microSD CARD AND NOT INSTEAD USE THE INTERNAL STORAGE (11.2GB) WHICH IS MORE PLENTIFUL THAN THE 1.9GB SUPPLIED?
IS THERE A WAY TO SELECT TO USE THE INTERNAL SD CARD (11.2GB INSTEAD?
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That 'why' is a bad question and you should feel bad for asking it. It was designed that way in the phone. As to your second question, a proper one, try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en. It lists in the description what you asked for but seems ambiguous from the pictures.
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^typical XDA...ask simple question, get incorrect answer, LOVE IT. By the way this is a thread i SEARCHED GOOGLE FOR, while being told by another XDA member to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE in a different thread.....sweet
so let me rephrase the goddamn question(s)
WHY WHEN WE MOVE APP TO SD CARD DOES THE PHONE MOVE THE APP TO THE REMOVABLE microSD CARD AND NOT INSTEAD USE THE INTERNAL STORAGE (11.2GB) WHICH IS MORE PLENTIFUL THAN THE 1.9GB SUPPLIED?
when running some apps/games from a microSD card they cause force closes, data loss, and other wacky things to occur. <- is WHY we dont want them stored there...
IS THERE A WAY TO SELECT TO USE THE INTERNAL SD CARD (11.2GB INSTEAD?
...not as far as i can tell, ive tried it all includng removng the microSD card and attempting to install an app, the phone says not enough space even though i had 1.9GBs remaining in the "USB Storage" partition
The T989 SHOULD fil the INTERNAL CARD FIRST in my opinion....
i have over 200 apps/games on my device and ive only had it for ~2 months no media, only apps/games and i have 200mb remaining in the partition allocated for apps and 1.9GB remaining in the "USB Storage" partiton,....I DONT want apps/games stored on my 64GB microSD card, i remove it often, thats where my media is stored....
heres another kicker, the T989 reports a low memory warning and inabilty to store apps in the Intenal (1.9GB) partition at ~200mb, even though most apps are FAR smaller than anything that would impact that remaining space
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It's just the way the partitions are designed in the phone.. It's not necessary for it to be that way but that's the way this phone is designed and there isn't much you can do about it either..Other than moving apps to you external sd card which you apparently don't want to do there isn't really any other options
I'm confused here. The naming of type of storage. There is SD and External SD and "device". I assume SD is the internal (16GB) memory and External is the (64GB) Micro SD card I have inserted?
With that in mind, I get confused on file managers that say SD memory because that makes me think Micro SD card. They even show it as as a card icon in OI File Manager! But now I realize that exSdCard is my microSD.
So now my question is the encrypting. We have two options:
Encrypt Device and Encrypt SD card
This is confusing! Is the "device" the internal 16GB SD?
Or is SD the internal memory and Device is some other internal section?
Is there no option to actually encrypt my 64GB micro SDcard?
Halp
Device=accounts, settings, downloaded apps & their data, media if stored on internal, and some other files all stored on internal phone memory.
Hello,
i have been using adoptable storage for a while and i like it.
My adopted card however is getting close to full so i would like to switch to a larger one.
Has anyone done this? Is there anyway to transfer the data from the old to the new adopted card?
I dont have enough space on the phone memory itself to move everything back to the internal storage.
i can move pics and music to an hdd but not sure about apps and associated data that is on the card.
Thanks in advance!
You can send all files in sd card with a secondary app like zapya to computer and resend them to sd card when you adopted new sd card in your phone
Have you looked at HTC SyncManager?
I wasnt aware of these options i will look into them and report.
Thank you
Shouldn't it work if you just copy everything on your SD card to a PC, place the new SD card, format it as internal storage, copy everything back and restart?
I'm not sure if this works, but your apps are still installed on internal storage, only app data is placed on SD card.
Check settings > storage
If you tap on your internal storage, there should be some GB at apps and just a few MB on your SD card.
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Shouldn't it work if you just copy everything on your SD card to a PC, place the new SD card, format it as internal storage, copy everything back and restart?
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Except that pulling the adopted storage eviscerates the file system...
The only strategy I could fathom would be to duplicate the image onto the new SD card plugged in USB-OTG. If that were even possible, a concern would be changes during copy, making it inconsistent.
converted to adoptable storage but no data import option in the SD Card in storage
I am using a Samsung galaxy S5 and i converted my SD card to adoptable storage using adb shell process. after that there are two options showing in storage settings, internal storage and SD card.
Is it converted to Adoptable storage? If yes then why is there no option of importing data in the menu of 'SD card' storage option.
and how can i transfer from internal to SD card. or can make use of adoptable storage properly?
I have a LG G3 running stock M 6.0
I'm trying to increase my 16GB flash size or at least move my big apps to my external SD.
I did OK with Spotify and some others, but few others (like some games) are not moving their data to my external sd.
I have problems with those apps detecting my Internal Storage as my external SD card due to the fact that the Android mounts the internal storage in
/sdcard/
linked to some other folder
/storage/emulated/0
while my real external SD card is actually mounted on
/storage/7FB0-1DEE/
What on the earth is this thing calling my internal storage, sdcard, and my external sdcard to some strange mounted folder with a weird code that of course my apps have no idea wth is that...
Any ideas how to workaround that? Any guidelines will be very much appreciate it.
-- JJ
PD. I don't want to use any App2SD or FolderMount rooted 3rd parties to create logical links/shortcuts and "pretent" or make thing the app the files are on the internal storage, when they are on the external sd. That thing works OK. I rooted my stock FW and tested it that way, but I dont want my phone to have root access.
PD2. I installed RR582-Nougat711 to test this Ext SD adoption (which is not available on G3 Stock M 6.0). It sort of worked OK but I lost my ext sdcard when connecting it to my PC. I'm not willing to make my external sd part of the internal storage anymore. That think is awkward, encrypting my card and losing portability to MTP transfer.
Hi,
Recently I installed LineageOS 14.1 (unofficial build lineage-14.1-20171029-1955-d10f-UNOFFICIAL.zip). My phone is the Pentagram Monster X5 Pro, which has internal storage of 789MB (visible as portable) and quite low system space (~400MB) for applications.
When I configured the storage I got an option to format it as:
a) internal
When I formatted as internal my app space increased. On one of the screens it was told that I can copy the content on that storage by going to Settings > Storage. When I went there I could not see the internal storage, so no way to copy the content to the sd card formatted as internal storage. Also from the camera I cannot select this storage as it is not selectable.
Result: Big space for application, but very small space for media (as it still uses the internal sdcard of 798MB).
Is this a bug in the LineageOS?
b) portable
So I formatted as portable media hoping that I can move the apps to the external sd card. This can be done, but not all the apps will allow me to move to the sd card and not all the data can be moved. It still leaves some part in the internal system storage, which shrinks the available space to the point that updates of the applications cannot be done due to the lack of space.
Result: Big space for media, but out of space for apps updates.
So I was thinking to use the Link2SD app, where they suggested partitioning the external SD card into 2 primary partitions (1’st with FAT32, 2’nd with Ext3). I did that using AParted application, but after that LineageOS refused to use such media displaying that both cards (partitions) are corrupted and it offered to format them. After formatting the whole sd card became FAT32 and the second partition was gone.
Is there a way to partition and format the external SD card in some way so it will be accepted by LineageOS?
Regards,
Zaxon
P.S. I had some screenshots, but I cannot post links yet.