I just got into Rooting my S4, I used to have an S3 so i'm no noob when it comes to development. the issue i am having is that since I got an S4, I see so many different Custom Roms that I don't know where to start so I thought that someone might be able to help. I just want to know your opinions on the best Custom Roms as far as lollipop and Marshmallow go for example...speed of use, OTA updates, actively developed etc. thanks for the help!
hotshot247 said:
I just got into Rooting my S4, I used to have an S3 so i'm no noob when it comes to development. the issue i am having is that since I got an S4, I see so many different Custom Roms that I don't know where to start so I thought that someone might be able to help. I just want to know your opinions on the best Custom Roms as far as lollipop and Marshmallow go for example...speed of use, OTA updates, actively developed etc. thanks for the help!
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Welcome to the S4!
There are a lot of great ROMs out right now. Just an FYI, marshmallow is stable on the S4, however, there are a few generic problems in marshmallow with Bluetooth, particularly if playing audio to a Bluetooth device when receiving a phone call. Other than that, it is pretty solid and notably smooth and fast, just like lollipop.
There is a pretty good CyanogenMod 13 and Beanstock 6.0.1 out right now in the development forum, and they update fairly regularly.
There is also a really feature rich AOKP 6.0.1 that is really solid, and a PAC ROM 6.0.1 in the forums too.
If you want features and more features, I really recommend AOKP. If you want a suped up kernel, I recommend CM13 by @javelinanddart.
If Bluetooth is a must, I recommend SlimLP, or the older Resurrection remix 5.1.1.
The great thing about custom roms, is it is like ice cream, there are lots of great flavours, and there isn't really a wrong choice. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the info! I was starting to get a little overwhelmed because their are so many choices that i didn't know where to start but now I have some direction.
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I agree with you hotshot247, there is sooo many. I have been toying with Team OctOs Oct-MM. It is very nice and very AOSP, with just a few tweaks available via there app. But like Alaska said it does have an issues when you are playing music/audio on Bluetooth and get a phone call.
I have also been toying with Albe95 S6 FULL PORT. It is a Touchwize 5.1.1 ROM. I didn't realize how much I like Touchwize and how much I have become a custom to it. For the most part any of Albe95 ROMs look good to me personally.
Albe95 also has another ROM I have been looking at, Albe95 LolliROM [S6/S7/N4/N5 Feature]. It is 5.0.1 base. It has a lot of features and app ports from some of the newest Galaxy phones.
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Can someone post their opinions and or advise regarding the current custom roms for Note 10.1 P605 LTE? I just want to know which one I should download. I will be coming from a stock rom. Are there any roms out there which is stable and has a great battery life. I will mainly use my tab for school purposes. Thanks!
I hope someone will notice and reply to this post Thanks!
I think the Hanspampel's xkat ROM is the best,but there aren't many differents.It is an Stock-based ROM and not much modified.
The two AOSP-based Custom ROMs(Cyanogenmod and AOKP) are not completly stable and bugfree,but for that very fluid.
I see, thank you for replying
I'll wait for more suggestions from others
Personally I would stick to the tried and true cyanogenmod. It offers a fast stock like experience and is fluid. Try to aim for a stable build. Keep in mind that some of the same pen features might not work which is the key selling point of the note.
Would you prefer the cm rom which is based on AOSP or a samsung based rom?
Anyway, is there's also a custom rom which is samsung based which improves the battery life?
Current on my stock 4.4.2 rom, I roughly get 9 hrs of screen time. Is that normal?
Lasty, I would like to ask if it is really an issue that our P605 doest produce a stereo sound on it's speakers?
Good news everyone!
The superfantasticawesome Nameless ROM dev team currently has a very solid 5.0 port currently open for testing! You can find it at http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/5-x-namelessrom-all-variants.22451/ .
Be sure to say thank you to them, and give them the feedback they deserve for this!
TIPS FOR INSTALLING:
Like many ROMs for the Find7 variants, this ROM needs a specific baseband or the proximity sensor gets pretty finicky. However, not all basebands seem to be compatible at the moment. For myself, I found that downgrading to the 2.0.3 beta only worked for me (I'm on a Find7a), but I've also heard that some Find7 people were able to use 1.2.5.
Enjoy your Lollipop, everyone!
Fantastic news. I'm downloading it right now. Will test tonight. Thanks.
Nameless rom works fantastic for me.Very smooth indeed. The only issue is with proximity sensor. Can you please let me know on how youdegraded the baseband version?
manojava said:
Nameless rom works fantastic for me.Very smooth indeed. The only issue is with proximity sensor. Can you please let me know on how youdegraded the baseband version?
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Use the stock recovery to flash the 2.0.3i beta, then install the 5.0 port. If you're on a non stock recovery, I'd recommend using Tantrum's recovery installer here!
I think there is no need to flash whole COS rom then Nameless LL. If some sensors are not working in LL, like proximity, try to flash other modem, no need for whole ROM.
Go to modem collection here and try to flash 1.2.5 modem, it should work.
If you have chinese model, like me, I have x9007, I flashed Modempackage_1.2.5_zixuan_cn.zip and Nameless LL is working great, only NFC is not working.
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I think there is no need to flash whole COS rom then Nameless LL. If some sensors are not working in LL, like proximity, try to flash other modem, no need for whole ROM.
Go to modem collection here and try to flash 1.2.5 modem, it should work.
If you have chinese model, like me, I have x9007, I flashed Modempackage_1.2.5_zixuan_cn.zip and Nameless LL is working great, only NFC is not working.
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Thank you so much. Its working fine after flashing the 1.2.5 modem. BTW i use find7a.
Nikola P. said:
I think there is no need to flash whole COS rom then Nameless LL. If some sensors are not working in LL, like proximity, try to flash other modem, no need for whole ROM.
Go to modem collection here and try to flash 1.2.5 modem, it should work.
If you have chinese model, like me, I have x9007, I flashed Modempackage_1.2.5_zixuan_cn.zip and Nameless LL is working great, only NFC is not working.
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That's very interesting. I tried using three different basebands (the 1.2.5, 2.0.3, and a OnePlusOne baseband) but all of them only caused the ROM to bootloop. Glad it worked for you guys though!
Hi folks,
I'm considering unifying since I quickly run out of app space. Is there any word on a L port for unify and if there is a specific unify method that has to be followed?
Thanks for your help, apologies for my ignorance.
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Hi folks,
I'm considering unifying since I quickly run out of app space. Is there any word on a L port for unify and if there is a specific unify method that has to be followed?
Thanks for your help, apologies for my ignorance.
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I believe that this ROM actually supports unified storage. Check out the link that I posted at the top, and you should find unification instructions in the first post.
Great thanks BG!
Cant wait to flash.
This is awesome, I'm happy that I accidentally came to general looking for a new ROM.
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No dice on flashing the Dec 6th 5.0.1 for me (Find7a not unified)
I tried modem versions 1.2.5i and 2.02i
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Dont wanna rain on anyone's parade but i got the Omni 5.0 ROM to work instead.
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So after finding no Root yet on Omni, i went ahead and flashed NameLess again and for some reason it works. well.. yay! (Dec 6 not unified)
I have to admit it was easier to get Omni 5.0 to work over Nameless 5.0 and I came from Nameless 4.4.4 Kit Kat.
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I have to admit it was easier to get Omni 5.0 to work over Nameless 5.0 and I came from Nameless 4.4.4 Kit Kat.
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Hey, that's great! How have you found the battery life so far on Omni? I found that Nameless was a bit better in both the battery and features department, but I've been a huge fan of OmniRom for quite some time now, and would love to support their work too.
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Hey, that's great! How have you found the battery life so far on Omni? I found that Nameless was a bit better in both the battery and features department, but I've been a huge fan of OmniRom for quite some time now, and would love to support their work too.
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Battery life is good on Omni, however, I have to agree with you that Nameless battery life is better, and their features are more extensive.
On a side note: although the battery and features are a "bit better" on Nameless, OmniRom, in my opinion, is the gold standard for (AOSP) custom Roms. There are no fillers, they are quick to implement cutting-edge advancements, and their Roms just work. Meaning, they are stable.
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Battery life is good on Omni, however, I have to agree with you that Nameless battery life is better, and their features are more extensive.
On a side note: although the battery and features are a "bit better" on Nameless, OmniRom, in my opinion, is the gold standard for (AOSP) custom Roms. There are no fillers, they are quick to implement cutting-edge advancements, and their Roms just work. Meaning, they are stable.
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That has really, over the past year, become our primary focus - on our most well supported devices, we are far more stable than many other projects. (Although the EOS guys do a damn good job too).
We're also the only project other than EOS where users of Oppo devices can routinely interact with the developers who did the hardware support of the device.
In the case of CM - Most of the work is Steve swinging his ninja sword, at least Tom does talk to users but much of the work is done by people who never come here.
In the case of all CM derivatives that blind-track CM (Nameless is in this category - in fact it was founded by some Omni maintainers who disagreed with the rest of Omni as far as blind-tracking CM vs. actually solving the problems on your device yourself.) - you're even farther removed from the people actually doing the work.
Omni and EOS both have the guys who are doing the hardware bringup communicating with users directly to look for trends and issues that stand out. (the two teams also communicate with each other...) Gummy did too before they called it quits.
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That has really, over the past year, become our primary focus - on our most well supported devices, we are far more stable than many other projects. (Although the EOS guys do a damn good job too).
We're also the only project other than EOS where users of Oppo devices can routinely interact with the developers who did the hardware support of the device.
In the case of CM - Most of the work is Steve swinging his ninja sword, at least Tom does talk to users but much of the work is done by people who never come here.
In the case of all CM derivatives that blind-track CM (Nameless is in this category - in fact it was founded by some Omni maintainers who disagreed with the rest of Omni as far as blind-tracking CM vs. actually solving the problems on your device yourself.) - you're even farther removed from the people actually doing the work.
Omni and EOS both have the guys who are doing the hardware bringup communicating with users directly to look for trends and issues that stand out. (the two teams also communicate with each other...) Gummy did too before they called it quits.
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Hey, thanks for the post Entropy. I really like hearing developers opinions. In all honesty, I was using your ROM before I switched to nameless (and only did so because it was the first fully functional, stable Lollipop ROM available) and would love to switch back. You guys seem to be pretty avid in releasing your builds as of late, so I'll certainly be keeping an eye out! All I really need in terms of features anyway is the ability to change button configurations and double tap something to sleep or wake the device (I hate using the power button) so once you have those, you'll have one more on the bandwagon. You guys really are doing something right here, and I intend to support it!
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That has really, over the past year, become our primary focus - on our most well supported devices, we are far more stable than many other projects. (Although the EOS guys do a damn good job too).
We're also the only project other than EOS where users of Oppo devices can routinely interact with the developers who did the hardware support of the device.
In the case of CM - Most of the work is Steve swinging his ninja sword, at least Tom does talk to users but much of the work is done by people who never come here.
In the case of all CM derivatives that blind-track CM (Nameless is in this category - in fact it was founded by some Omni maintainers who disagreed with the rest of Omni as far as blind-tracking CM vs. actually solving the problems on your device yourself.) - you're even farther removed from the people actually doing the work.
Omni and EOS both have the guys who are doing the hardware bringup communicating with users directly to look for trends and issues that stand out. (the two teams also communicate with each other...) Gummy did too before they called it quits.
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This is the reason I decided to stay with omni and I am really thankful that there are people like you guys out there that don't let us alone with a great device but awful default firmware (COS).
But I would really like to know your opinion about Paranoid Android, as I always thought they have (sometimes more, sometimes less) good communication to their users and a solid team of Devs that solves issues instead of blind-tracking the solutions from somewhere else.
So my Dad decided he doesn't like his G3 - I know, he's crazy. So we have decided to swap phones. I had a Nexus 5 which I loved. I'm looking to get the G3 as close to stock lollipop as I possibly can as my Fun Prevention Officer (wife) has the Gold G3 and I'm less than impressed with the standard ROM.
I've had a look through the threads here searching about for a stock ROM and it seems there are plenty available but I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys think is the most stable.
I'm well up on ADB, rooting etc so I don't need help with the method, just your opinions on the 'best' , most stable closest to stock Lollipop ROM.
Cheers dudes and dudesses.
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So my Dad decided he doesn't like his G3 - I know, he's crazy. So we have decided to swap phones. I had a Nexus 5 which I loved. I'm looking to get the G3 as close to stock lollipop as I possibly can as my Fun Prevention Officer (wife) has the Gold G3 and I'm less than impressed with the standard ROM.
I've had a look through the threads here searching about for a stock ROM and it seems there are plenty available but I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys think is the most stable.
I'm well up on ADB, rooting etc so I don't need help with the method, just your opinions on the 'best' , most stable closest to stock Lollipop ROM.
Cheers dudes and dudesses.
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Hello, I'm new on the formus but I have tried several stock rom versions for my variant (D855). I think that Cloudy G 2.1 is one of the best lollipop stock rom version you can try. It is updated to the latest (20F) version, it's debloated and bumped and it is pretty stable (the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
Finally keep in mind that we have a Official CM 12 build in the Android Original development section that works flawless in case you like (much more like AOSP).
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Hello, I'm new on the formus but I have tried several stock rom versions for my variant (D855). I think that Cloudy G 2.1 is one of the best lollipop stock rom version you can try. It is updated to the latest (20F) version, it's debloated and bumped and it is pretty stable (the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
Finally keep in mind that we have a Official CM 12 build in the Android Original development section that works flawless in case you like (much more like AOSP).
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Thanks straim. I'm looking for something closer to the Nexus 5 really. I saw the Official CM12 had been released but wasn't sure on the stability being a nightly.
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Thanks straim. I'm looking for something closer to the Nexus 5 really. I saw the Official CM12 had been released but wasn't sure on the stability being a nightly.
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If you want stock close to LG: Cloudy: stable
If you want stock close to "naked" android: CM12: I would not use it as a daily driver yet, but i'll sure do in a more stable state.
Thanks raptor. I guess stability would come above stock Android in my priorities list. I'll give Cloudy a whirl...
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Thanks raptor. I guess stability would come above stock Android in my priorities list. I'll give Cloudy a whirl...
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That's for sure, CM is fantastic but they need a bit of time to make it good. Cloudy is a good transition phase. Guess LG's rom is pretty good.
There are other Roms in the dev section, but I haven't really looked at them.
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That's for sure, CM is fantastic but they need a bit of time to make it good. Cloudy is a good transition phase. Guess LG's rom is pretty good.
There are other Roms in the dev section, but I haven't really looked at them.
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Yeah I had a glance through them.
Cloudy it is then. At least until CM gets an M release out....
Thanks again all.
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the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions.
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Can anyone tell me more about this? I have G Watch R. Is this going to cause me problems?
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Can anyone tell me more about this? I have G Watch R. Is this going to cause me problems?
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The bug causes audio glitches and sometimes is necessary to unlink an link the device to avoid issues like battery drain. You can seek something like "Bluetooth|car audio issues" in general or q&a forums for more information.
Ps: I use cm 12 as daily driver.
What about for me that I use wireless headphones, will that affect me?
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I recommend you stick with stock roms (Cloudy or ChupaChups), as the AOSP roms like CyanogenMod have dreadful camera software and quality. It's like you're back from LG G3 to a Nexus 4 camera, it's s**t! Sound volumes are also lower on AOSP, has something to do with drivers i think... But for the rest, cyanogenmod is stable, quick, light on the battery, and real pleasing to the eyes as it's one of the best looking roms on the market with themes support and all... But if you want to make the best out of your G3, use Cloudy G3 2.1. It's as fast and light on resources as cyanogenmod 12, as good looking if you flash the Lollipop theme (link on the first page of Cloudy thread), but you get to keep the amazing camera quality and sound volumes of the stock rom. After 2 months of flashing and testing roms on my G3, i can say, Cloudy has the winner here, hands down!
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I recommend you stick with stock roms (Cloudy or ChupaChups), as the AOSP roms like CyanogenMod have dreadful camera software and quality. It's like you're back from LG G3 to a Nexus 4 camera, it's s**t! Sound volumes are also lower on AOSP, has something to do with drivers i think... But for the rest, cyanogenmod is stable, quick, light on the battery, and real pleasing to the eyes as it's one of the best looking roms on the market with themes support and all... But if you want to make the best out of your G3, use Cloudy G3 2.1. It's as fast and light on resources as cyanogenmod 12, as good looking if you flash the Lollipop theme (link on the first page of Cloudy thread), but you get to keep the amazing camera quality and sound volumes of the stock rom. After 2 months of flashing and testing roms on my G3, i can say, Cloudy has the winner here, hands down!
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Thanks! What does ChupaChups have that cloudy doesn't?
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So what's the latest on Cyanogenmod? Is it stable yet? I used it for a while a few months ago but would have random locks and have to do a battery pull.
I have Cloudy 2.2 at the moment but honestly, I'm not a fan. I really want CM12 but only if it's stable.
What's the verdict?
can't go past full stock ( regular updates with http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/stock-t2961073 ), and G3 TweaksBox. works like a charm even though TweaksBox and the Xposed framework are both in alpha
Does someone compare the last versions of Cloudy and Chupa Chups ?
I was curious about this question because every single ROM out there for the LG is a cm12 base Lollipop. Lollipop is so boring and getting to a point where what else can it do. I don't mean to diss Lollipop but when I had the Thunderbolt or GS3 there were other roms. Roms from other phones imported to other phones. No matter what name of the rom thats out there now, they're all the same looking rom.
Being a rom junkie and hoping to find a new rom with "WOW" is very difficult. I'm sure I'm not the only person thinking this. I know that the Lollipop for the LG will be out soon and it'll be just a subtle change. I just hope that more dev's will create roms using bits and pieces of other OS to make it interesting.
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I was curious about this question because every single ROM out there for the LG is a cm12 base Lollipop. Lollipop is so boring and getting to a point where what else can it do. I don't mean to diss Lollipop but when I had the Thunderbolt or GS3 there were other roms. Roms from other phones imported to other phones. No matter what name of the rom thats out there now, they're all the same looking rom.
Being a rom junkie and hoping to find a new rom with "WOW" is very difficult. I'm sure I'm not the only person thinking this. I know that the Lollipop for the LG will be out soon and it'll be just a subtle change. I just hope that more dev's will create roms using bits and pieces of other OS to make it interesting.
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There are stock based roms like skydragon and cloudy 1.2. I'm running cloudy 1.2 and getting good results.
johnny quest said:
I was curious about this question because every single ROM out there for the LG is a cm12 base Lollipop. Lollipop is so boring and getting to a point where what else can it do. I don't mean to diss Lollipop but when I had the Thunderbolt or GS3 there were other roms. Roms from other phones imported to other phones. No matter what name of the rom thats out there now, they're all the same looking rom.
Being a rom junkie and hoping to find a new rom with "WOW" is very difficult. I'm sure I'm not the only person thinking this. I know that the Lollipop for the LG will be out soon and it'll be just a subtle change. I just hope that more dev's will create roms using bits and pieces of other OS to make it interesting.
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So... you actually want a pre-themed ROM that slows down while adding no extra value to the phone?
I would think, being a "ROM junkie", you might consider being a "ROM dev-ie" and contribute something like you are seeking.
That's irrelevant to the topic at hand and not everyone at XDA has a background in programming.
On topic: I think there's really only Cloudy and that would be your best bet. Hopefully the T-Mobile variant gets an update an update to Lollipop soon. Anything else is basically just stock with whatever tweaks they claim are in to improve performance. Cloudy actually adds some cool new features.
I always found it weird that the majority of custom ROMs are all AOSP based and never based off of the stock ROM of the phone. Is there a reason for that? Sources not being as open as Google sources? It would be cool if we had a legitimate LG based ROM similar to what CM and other ROM devs do for AOSP.
It would be cool if there was something like Cloudy with features from G3 Tweaksbox baked into it.
Thanks everybody, I wish I can develop a rom but I know it takes time and that I don't have with school and all. But, waiting for the LG update is taking a long time. I know that there's some bugs that need to be handled so hopefully in the first quarter it'll be released. There was the MIUI that was different from other roms but they or the developer has stopped working on it. If hardcore work was done on it and kept it updated then that would have been my everyday rom, but I use either "Blisspop" or "Euphoria" they are pretty great and is always updating for perfection. Never tried Cloudy will give it a try. Thanks.
I had horrible experience with Euphoria. Rapid Battery drain and also phone heating up. Restored to stock but I miss my One Plus One Cyanogenmod 11s!
My ofc has a bunch of Samsung Note3 (hlte/TMobile) phones.
Hardware's still perfectly capable.
I need/want them to be -- as much as possible -- rooted, bloat-free, stable(ish) daily driver, using a well-supported current ROM, can live without themeing whistles-n-bells.
For a long while, that's been CyanogenMod. Even though a 'stable' v12 (Lollipop-based) release never saw the light of day, the nightlies have been generally reliable.
Of late, the situation's changed a bit ...
v12 hasn't seen a nightly since May 8.
There's no official v13 -- nightly or otherwise.
v13 *is* available as a completely unofficial solution on XDA, but afaict, the dev's busy as heck -- and there's only one of him.
Questions asked at the forums re: v13 get snark from the moderators.
Works for some. Not for my situation.
Sooooo, I'm looking for opinions. What hlte-ROM gets me closest to my criteria^? ideally on Marshmallow -- with , at least, a plan for N?
Reading through these forums, my first leaning is to Resurrection.
I will make some time to DL and test a few, of course.
But I'd certainly appreciate some thoughtful comments/suggestions.
Thanks.
Would be interested in this, too.
You're not alone. I plan to use the Note 3 for another year, as you said the hardware is perfectly capable. I'd like to run a stable version of Marshmallow at a minimum. I have the same concerns regarding stability, no bloat, root, etc.
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You're not alone. I plan to use the Note 3 for another year, as you said the hardware is perfectly capable. I'd like to run a stable version of Marshmallow at a minimum. I have the same concerns regarding stability, no bloat, root, etc.
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To be very stable, Lollipop is still the way to go honestly. There are some hardware limitations when concerning Android 6.0+ on the Note 3. But for Marshmallow you could try our Dominion s7 v2.2 ROM. It's in the T-Mobile Note 3 development section. It's Marshmallow 6.0.1 and is stable as the rest of the 6.0+ ROM's. You also retain the S Pen functions unlike something like CM or a purely AOSP ROM. It also has the Screen Off Memo feature from the Note 5.
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To be very stable, Lollipop is still the way to go honestly. There are some hardware limitations when concerning Android 6.0+ on the Note 3. But for Marshmallow you could try our Dominion s7 v2.2 ROM. It's in the T-Mobile Note 3 development section. It's Marshmallow 6.0.1 and is stable as the rest of the 6.0+ ROM's. You also retain the S Pen functions unlike something like CM or a purely AOSP ROM. It also has the Screen Off Memo feature from the Note 5.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a shot today.
fyi,
Cyanogen Inc. reportedly fires OS development arm, switches to apps
I'm not holding my breath for ongoing Cyanogenmod development for the Note3 ...
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fyi,
Cyanogen Inc. reportedly fires OS development arm, switches to apps
I'm not holding my breath for ongoing Cyanogenmod development for the Note3 ...
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If you don't know the difference between cyanogen and cyanogenmod, you have wasted your time in XDA.
googlephone said:
If you don't know the difference between cyanogen and cyanogenmod, you have wasted your time in XDA.
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Ah, the usual irrelevant drivel ... Didn't take long.
> If you don't know the difference between cyanogen and cyanogenmod, you have wasted your time in XDA.
Riiiiight. That's the issue. 'cuz there's NO correlation whatsoever between dev & devs at Cyanogen and Cyanogenmod project, and with the troubles at the Co, there'll be a sudden uptick in dev & support @ Cyangenmod. I'm sure new devs will start flocking to the platform too ...