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I'm trying to find a replacement for my s4, and looking at the G3. I'd like to know what you give up when you root/rom this phone. I understand the Sony Z3 camera software is lost, and can't find any specific mention in my googling.
Also, I understand some/all LG apps are not cracked. Anything that kills the features that make the phone special, or typical mfg bloat? I can't bring myself to accept stock.
Rooting i think you only really lose OTA - flashing a custom ROM, depends on the ROM, you may lose some system apps and the LG widgets but thats about it.
Custom ROM's are still in there infancy just now on the G3.
Any comparison of pre/post? It's a pretty significant issue, especially considering the G3 is being touted as the best android camera at the moment.
gotcha640 said:
Any comparison of pre/post? It's a pretty significant issue, especially considering the G3 is being touted as the best android camera at the moment.
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I wouldn't go that far. The camera is OK but z2 or z3 are better. The only down side to z2 or z3 is 16gb build in storage.
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Like it's been said before, you'll lose OTA with root, but remaining on a stock-LG based ROM will let you keep all the features.
The downside to moving to AOSP that I can see is losing the stock camera app itself.. The hand gesture to take selfies from the front cam is really neat & useful. Aside from that I don't think there is much to miss from stock software.
So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
Unless you're looking to get the T-Mobile (811) or the International EU (815) version, there is no way to install custom roms. Those are the only two unlockable variants.
The other versions are rootable if you stay on 5.1.1 LP, but if you want 6.0 MM, you'll be stuck with the T-Mobile or EU Int version. There is no way to root all the other variants on 6.0
Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
As far as I can tell the ROMs based on stock are very stable. You won't even notice the difference. CM and CM based ROMs are the usual. Stable but have a few annoying bugs. I haven't really tried any AOSP so I won't speak for those
Heres my opinion.i have a tmobile version and if i flasha custom rom it seems to drop the bands as i cannot get signal in places where i can on stock based custom roms or pure stock rom.it does not switch between towers properly and i lose the ability to make or recieve calls.when i check phone info on aosp or cm based roms it shows it uses only 4 of the 12 bands i have.
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So I finally broke my Galaxy S4 last night, and I'm thinking about buying an LG G4 to replace it. However, the LG UI "improvements" look awful, and I bet I would be changing the firmware pretty soon if I get it. So with that in mind, I'm wondering if I should be buying the phone. Is CM13 or other roms stable enough that replacing the stock rom a good idea on a new phone?
I'm also considering any any other phone in the same price range, including the Moto X Style (Pure).
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I made the same transition; from Galaxy S4 to Lg G4.
I'm running stock with Xposed. The G4 Tweaksbox app has a themes option and I've got a stock android one applied. It's really stable (I always expect themes to go crazy). The only other thing is the settings. You can get a stock settings mod but I don't really see the point. It works well enough for me and settings isn't really something you'd aim to be going on everyday anyway.
The clip tray is annoying but can be disabled. Add nova launcher and Google keyboard and it's all good. This is a much better solution than a custom ROM. You'll never get this kind of stability. Not forgetting that your camera app and fm radio and others will also be gone.
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When buying, make sure the serial number starts with 601 or 602 603... These phones were manufactured this year so hopefully won't have the bootloop bug. If buying 2nd hand, ask the seller for the serial. If they can't provide it, ask for the IMEI and look up the serial number using https://imeidata.net/warranty/lg
There are too many references for 6XX bootloop issues, so I wouldn't recommend LG G4 at all , for custom theming,roms etc. Even after replacing motherboards of 5xx to 6xx, the bootloops are something more common than I used to believe...
personally am very happy with g4(601). best combo for me is Genisys Rom 4.2 + SimpleGX KERNEL (then Tweaksbox, xposed & nova launcher). very stable, no lags, speedy, good battery, amazing camera/lg app. downsides are unlocking bootloader voids warranty & the body corner feels painfully sharp after a while in the hand.
I am happy with the G4 too, 601 as well , but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that there are many issues with the phone! I hope the OP can enjoy and proceed at his own risk of course!
Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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Thanks for the replies guys! At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the Moto X Style, and will probably order it (at pretty much the same price as the G4) tomorrow unless someone talks me out of it.
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I'll be honest with you.....my mom has this phone and has massive battery drain issues, where as I have none. If your going for good battery and fast updates than Motorola will be your best bud, but if you don't mind mediocre battery but a kick ass camera then the G4 will be your best bud. PS it's as good as point and shoot this is coming from someone that does photography for a living.
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I also have little to no faith in LG anymore. Moving on to bigger better things but will ride it out until my upgrade is eligible.
Going back to Samsung, Motorola, Huawei or HTC.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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Going to repeat this over and over again, i don't understand those people who after unboxing immediately install custom ROM (What!? you know what you're buying, you support OEM in this case LG, you support their firmware, skin and now you throwing out your money for something else in many cases worse, facepalm) if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look? for latest security patches? themes? it's not worth it atleast now, IMO custom ROM's comes in handy when OEM stop's supporting your device with the latest firmware so if i done calculations right you should look for CM for LG G4 when Android 8-9 comes out. All you need is a root and good kernel then comes a good stuff, long story short, CM is a cancer for latest devices, flagships, believe me and don't think i'm condemning CM.
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I used to be one of those who buys a flagship device, then immediately look for bootloader unlock, root and flash. But after having LG G4 for 3 weeks now, stock MM latest, installed with my needed apps and games, I lost the feel of flashing custom ROMs.
G4 is great as it is, although optimizations can be done, a little upgrade here and there. As long as LG supports G4 with updates and with their accessories, then I'll stay with LG as manufacturer. Of they abandon us (like what they did with G PRO), then I'll switch devices.
LG has been my favorite since 2013.
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Luckily, I would be getting the 815 version.
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Be extremely cautious where you get your 815 from. I bought one from Value basket that was advertised as a European Variant for the express purpose of developing a CFW- When it came it wasn't and they refused to exchange it. I've got an email trail as long as your arm trying to get the thing exchanged but they're just con-merchants.
But it's still an awesome phone....
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if you want pure Android you buy Nexus, Motorola maybe, that's it, as Google says "Be together not the same". Installing custom ROM's it's like putting BMW rims on Toyota's car... beside that, G4 don't need a custom ROM, just imagine what your going to deal with custom ROM, awful camera, sound issue, lost functionalities, bugs, strange battery drains, degradation in overall battery life and everything for stock Android look?
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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I do get your point. Buying the G4 would have been a compromise to get some good hardware for a low price, and I hoped to to sweeten that deal even more by customizing the firmware to my liking. However, I ended up getting a second-hand Nexus 6P instead. :victory:
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Smartest move you could have ever made. LG has left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Ever since I got my phone back with a new circuit board it feels like a ticking time bomb and I don't use it for anything other than texting, phone use and browsing. How pathetic is that.
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When do we get some updates with some fixes and security patches ??? I am tired of waiting and i am seriously disappointed .... LG is worst right now with their updates ... It seems updates roll out only in Turkey and we need explanation why ?
The battery life is WORSE and im thinking to buy Nexus device... LG.. you are loosing customers ...
If You are on H815 ,flash the brazilian kdz. Security Patch is 01.05.2016
I had terrible experiences with Android devices over the last months. Got an S6 edge+ only to find out that Samsung didn't want to send the updates to my country and decided to give the monthly updates only in 3-4 countries. TouchWiz was better than the older version but still heavy bloated and laggy in comparison to other devices. Then got 2 Nexus 6P only to find out how poorly they made them. Bad screens with heavy partially tints and low brightness overall. Rattling buttons, rattling cameras, poor audio quality in calls, poor audio quality through headphones with low volume output, and scratched oleophobic coating. Returned both and never went to Nexus again. Now Im on LG G4. It's one of the fastest phones I ever had. Feels even faster than the 6P in daily usage with many apps installed. But alas. The battery drains like hell and I saw no updates yet. Sometimes Doze is not working though I had this on the 6P too sometimes. Dunno what's causing it. There is no point on going to Nexus 6P atm. In few months the new Nexuses will come out maybe they will be better.
Same here, LG G4 stuck in January update, but my battery it's ok. 2 days on usual use ~4h of display on with 4G mobile data on from time to time. I just don't get it why all the non EU regions got all this security updates and updates, but for EU nothing, just silence! The Brazilian kdz, it's not a go, from what I read for some users of H815 the update crush the phone and the bridge application prompted to update to 20d version, witch is the current January update... so the last choice is to wait or go to a cooked room in witch case you lose the warranty! Over all I love the phone, the camera it's the best point in this point, but for the end of the year I wish to switch to something new, or the S7 or the next Nexus.
I agree with you guys. This is not serious at all LG... I was impressed when I saw on XDA that LG will be one of the first to release MM, at that time I did not even own this device. But it is not enough to release one build and completely forget about it for almost half a year, we all know new software is good but it requires at least 3 major updates to be properly optimized and polished. Just for example look at windows, every time they released a new version it required at least two 1 GB updates to make it super stable. So what I wanted to say that if you release a new software you have to maintain it otherwise it's not gonna work, look how many revision there are already for MM in AOSP, obviously many of them are related to Google phones but there's a lot of improvements for the OS as well.
P.S. What about L, did you get any updates or they didn't even release 5.1? Because G3 I think still has 5.0...
i know. i'm checking daily for the security patch ,or even 6.0.1 to get the new UX,but i guess all we have to do is wait . Worth the wait because the phone is a beast with or without the security update. i don't mind at all ,when it comes,it comes . Just enjoy your phone
Even my Note 4 has a newer security patch! smh
Brazilian h815 20a stock rom(i m from România) .rooted with the newest security Patch and genesys ux5 theme over it. Very happy. Look at the pics
gabytzubc said:
Brazilian h815 20a stock rom(i m from România) .rooted with the newest security Patch and genesys ux5 theme over it. Very happy. Look at the pics
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i'd rather wait for LG official's UX since i'm sure that we will get it soon.
Looks nice anyway .
I can only agree. Also still stuck on the January security update. Where are those promised monthly updates LG?! Getting really fed up with this.
I think the ux 5 update will get things a little better but not too much. LG G5 doesn't get tons of battery life
I downright lost my confidence on LG. They never updated my G4 while on Lollipop past the 5.1 version, even when every other respectable brand was already on 5.1.1 for a long time. I had to update using LGUP and I don't think we will see a 6.0.1 update. I'm afraid all we're gonna get is some promise to update to N somewhere in the future. Hopefully, I will have moved to Nexus by then.
just got a g4 i too am dissapointed in the lack of updates but if they change to the new lg skin i wont update need my appdraw without using a custom launcher
The only solution is custom rom guys ... I waited for 5 months and decided to install cyanogenmod 13 and guess what ... It is even smother and faster than that crap of Lg softvare .. Performance is very good and heat is no problem at all .. Good job cyanogenmod .. Lg i will never go back to stock
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The only solution is custom rom guys ... I waited for 5 months and decided to install cyanogenmod 13 and guess what ... It is even smother and faster than that crap of Lg softvare .. Performance is very good and heat is no problem at all .. Good job cyanogenmod .. Lg i will never go back to stock
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The problem is that our bootloader is locked, and we can't unlock it. We can't install custom rom. I hate LG
INFERNO997 said:
The only solution is custom rom guys ... I waited for 5 months and decided to install cyanogenmod 13 and guess what ... It is even smother and faster than that crap of Lg softvare .. Performance is very good and heat is no problem at all .. Good job cyanogenmod .. Lg i will never go back to stock
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That would be great if all of LG G4 users were able to unlock the bootloader but, sadly, that's not the case. I'm also stuck with the last sec update from January and this shot hasn't gotten any major update since then, or at least an official bootloader unlock solution. This is going to be my last LG device from now on, I'll go for a developer friendly solution, maybe from Oneplus or other.
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gabytzubc said:
Brazilian h815 20a stock rom(i m from România) .rooted with the newest security Patch and genesys ux5 theme over it. Very happy. Look at the pics
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could you unlock the bootloader? how did you install the genesys theme?
Yeah, the real problem is that we can't unlock our G4's bootloaders. I have the h815p and the thing is bootloader-unlockable. I would've installed CyanogenMod a long time ago if I could.
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could you unlock the bootloader? how did you install the genesys theme?
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Yes. I have H815 Open Euro and i unlocked the bootloader about a month ago. What model do you have?
hey guys, my LG g3 was just replaced under waranty and i just got a new unit.
Now i am undecided whether to just sell it and jump straight away to the G5 or s7 or whether it´s smarter to stick with it for a little longer.
Also i am wondering what the best custom Rom with ( 6.x) currently is , i have noticed there are a great many available already !
Interstar said:
hey guys, my LG g3 was just replaced under waranty and i just got a new unit.
Now i am undecided whether to just sell it and jump straight away to the G5 or s7 or whether it´s smarter to stick with it for a little longer.
Also i am wondering what the best custom Rom with ( 6.x) currently is , i have noticed there are a great many available already !
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if you can get the new G5 then why not I still have my G3 because I still find it fast and have a pretty sick set up. Plus, with Fulmics ROM and G3 tweaksbox you can change anything! For it being an "old" phone the G3 still holds its ground. But then again you can't beat the new camera and better specs of the G5,hmmmm......
BTW the S7 sucks in my opinion
like what Still_living714 said, if you can get it then definitely go for it. I just jumped from Fulmics to G Plus 2.4 ROM (you should check it out if you're interested in stock lg rom with aosp look). The devs here at xda keeps me satisfied with my G3 and I'm not jumping ship anytime soon
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if you can get the new G5 then why not I still have my G3 because I still find it fast and have a pretty sick set up. Plus, with Fulmics ROM and G3 tweaksbox you can change anything! For it being an "old" phone the G3 still holds its ground. But then again you can't beat the new camera and better specs of the G5,hmmmm......
BTW the S7 sucks in my opinion
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Hmm yeah , i am kind of disapointed in the g5 because they ended the rear mounted audio buttons and i am not 100% convinced of the "modular" nature of the device.
that´s why i was concidering the s7.
but i think i´ll go with the Fulmics rom ^^
Fulmics made my g3 like a new device, really fast and stable. Only reason I switched to a nexus 6p was because the screen was so much brighter, the g3 is awesome in low light situations but poor in any kind of daylight compared to more modern displays.
Hi!
A local is selling this tablet for $75 so I was considering it vs my current Lenovo S8-50f if the display is any better because of the option of LTE and extra RAM.
Anyone had a chance to compare them? It is a bit of a drive so I am trying to get some feedback before I check it out.
Thanks
I don't know if this helps or if you already know about this feature of the GSMArena website, but have you checked http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6681&idPhone2=6173?
Keep in mind that the latest official stock ROM for the VK810 runs off of Android 5.0.2 and it's kinda sluggish, and updates to apps via the Play Store take extraordinarily long under Lollipop. I really wish they had at least updated to 5.1.1, which on the Verizon G3 worked noticeably smoother than 5.0.x. So I'd suggest finding out if there's been Android updates for the Lenovo to see if they at least have 5.1.1. Also keep in mind that builds of CyanogenMod 12.1 for the VK810 never got fully reliable for the VK810 in my opinion, and mobile data (and maybe GPS and Bluetooth) didn't work at all, so that's not really an option.
Looks like the Lenovo and the VK810 both have the same RAM and storage. 16 GB of internal storage really sucks IMHO, and I'll never get a tablet with less than 32 GB. I do have a 128 GB MicroSD card in it, at least.
I was running stock but heavily debloated and rooted Lollipop 5.0.2 on my VK810 until recently. I'm rebuilding my flashable debloat zips to take into account the bloat in the last KitKat release as I plan on trying going back to KitKat and will try to stay there. There'll be some things I'll miss about Lollipop but we'll see.
That all said, $75 is a hell of a deal with no contract, but there isn't really any active development for this device, and you already have a working LTE tablet, I wouldn't bother. Sure, another third of an inch larger than on the Lenovo, but that's not much.
Good luck, whatever you decide.