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I am going to purchase a Nexus 7 2013 and will be wanting to unlock the bootloader and root the device straightaway. I would be grateful if someone could tell me the best way to go about this. Should I carry out these tasks with no ROM updates applied, i.e. on 4.3 or should I update to Lollipop first? Thanks in advance.
With the nexus 7 its as simple as typing fast boot OEM unlock, but here is a more comprehensive guide on the matter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698
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Unlock the bootloader before doing anything else, as it will wipe your data in the process.
If you plan on staying with the stock rom, don't bother rooting or installing a custom recovery until you've updated all the way to lollipop, as it can cause the ota updates to fail and you'll just lose root with each update anyways. Beware of taking this route though, the are lots of posts around saying that the latest ota update bricked devices. Might be safer to fastboot flash the latest factory image directly.
If you plan on using custom ROMs, go ahead and root it and install custom recovery then flash away to your heart's content. You may need to update the bootloader to latest version first to successfully flash lollipop ROMs though. I think its version 4.04, and there are flashable zips for doing this somewhere around here that worked great for me.
crazymonkey05 said:
With the nexus 7 its as simple as typing fast boot OEM unlock, but here is a more comprehensive guide on the matter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698
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Many thanks. I used the excellent Nexus Root Toolkit.
PrizmaticSmoke said:
Unlock the bootloader before doing anything else, as it will wipe your data in the process.
If you plan on staying with the stock rom, don't bother rooting or installing a custom recovery until you've updated all the way to lollipop, as it can cause the ota updates to fail and you'll just lose root with each update anyways. Beware of taking this route though, the are lots of posts around saying that the latest ota update bricked devices. Might be safer to fastboot flash the latest factory image directly.
If you plan on using custom ROMs, go ahead and root it and install custom recovery then flash away to your heart's content. You may need to update the bootloader to latest version first to successfully flash lollipop ROMs though. I think its version 4.04, and there are flashable zips for doing this somewhere around here that worked great for me.
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I unlocked the bootloader, updated to Lollipop 5.0.2 by flashing the latest factory image, then rooted and flashed TWRP. I would now like to flash custom ROMS. You mentioned I may need to update the bootloader in order to successfully flash custom Lollipop ROMS? Am I correct in thinking I will have the latest bootloader, now that I have updated to Lollipop 5.0.2? Thanks.
pretty pixel said:
I unlocked the bootloader, updated to Lollipop 5.0.2 by flashing the latest factory image, then rooted and flashed TWRP. I would now like to flash custom ROMS. You mentioned I may need to update the bootloader in order to successfully flash custom Lollipop ROMS? Am I correct in thinking I will have the latest bootloader, now that I have updated to Lollipop 5.0.2? Thanks.
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Yep, you're correct. If you flashed the factory image, you should already be on the latest bootloader. :good:
By the way, 5.1 factory image finally was released today for this device.
PrizmaticSmoke said:
Yep, you're correct. If you flashed the factory image, you should already be on the latest bootloader. :good:
By the way, 5.1 factory image finally was released today for this device.
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Great, thanks for letting me know. Do you recommend I update to the 5.1 factory image before I flash any custom ROMS, or doesn't it matter?
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Great, thanks for letting me know. Do you recommend I update to the 5.1 factory image before I flash any custom ROMS, or doesn't it matter?
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Doesn't matter, though you may wait for the custom ROMs to update to 5.1 so they will have the latest binaries.
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Doesn't matter, though you may wait for the custom ROMs to update to 5.1 so they will have the latest binaries.
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Thanks. Do you know if CM12 has moved to 5.1 yet?
Not sure, don't really follow cm, but u can just check their website.
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Thanks. Do you know if CM12 has moved to 5.1 yet?
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as i know only few devices are on 5.1 yet
Hi all, I have an SGH-i747 with ver 4.0.4 which has been rooted. I will like to update my version systematically with the original updates i believe there where from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1 then 4.1.2. then 4.3, 4.4.2 etcc.. its there a place where i can find the original ups, my phone will not take the original firmware updates on its own. Reason is once i try to flash any ROM pass 4.1.1 i loose the Mobile Data getting the no sim inserted msg and no signal, forcing me to go back the original state in order to work. seems there is a problem with the modem once i go pass 4.1.1. .. thank you.
What bootloader version is on the phone? Where did you get the firmware to flash? You're using desktop Odin to flash?
Are ota updates an option for you? If they are you can unroot and flash the stock recovery; it might be easiest just to Odin back to stock.
Otherwise enewman has posted firmware updates to xda. They are bootloader + modem zips you can flash in custom recovery. You have to flash them incrementally, mjb then ne4 then nj1. Search the forum here and you'll find them. Just be careful and read read read those threads. Messing with bootloaders is the best way to hard brick this phone.
I'm in a similar situation - I've been on a custom version of the Stock ROM for 4.1.2 - never bothered to update the bootloader because I had the soft unlock done, didn't want to lose it. Now I'm bored with it. I'd love to get up to 4.4, or even a 5.0 ROM... but not sure the steps needed to do so. I'm vaguely aware that I have to update the bootloader/kernel, etc... but it seems like I'm 4 years behind the curve with all the ROMs and threads about bootloaders, and I've lost my touch.
That thread with the list of bootloaders sounds good though, I'll go looking for it to start I guess.
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I'm in a similar situation - I've been on a custom version of the Stock ROM for 4.1.2 - never bothered to update the bootloader because I had the soft unlock done, didn't want to lose it. Now I'm bored with it. I'd love to get up to 4.4, or even a 5.0 ROM... but not sure the steps needed to do so. I'm vaguely aware that I have to update the bootloader/kernel, etc... but it seems like I'm 4 years behind the curve with all the ROMs and threads about bootloaders, and I've lost my touch.
That thread with the list of bootloaders sounds good though, I'll go looking for it to start I guess.
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Here you go. This TLDR post has all enewman's firmware update threads linked to it.
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Here you go. This TLDR post has all enewman's firmware update threads linked to it.
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Thanks! I'll give it a look, down a couple of shots of liquid courage, and give it a go this weekend.
EDIT: Yikes, didn't take long for that to fizzle out. I'm using a i747M. Noticed that my current baseband version isn't listed anywhere on that thread. Hmmm. Oh well, guess I'll do some more digging later...
With an i747m, you can flash the latest 4.4.2 using firmware from sammobile.com and desktop Odin.
Do I need to do them in sequence, or can I jump to the latest? I'm assuming once I've flashed the stock firmware, I can load any current custom ROM?
@gfinockio, is your phone sim unlocked? If not and you don't see any mention of the warranty bit in download mode, you could flash back to stock 4.1.1, use the free method to sim unlock, and then run OTA updates until you are running the latest ROM. OTA updates are the safest route to upgrade the phone.
If you phone is sim unlocked already, you could flash directly to the latest ROM; however, you will not be able to downgrade the bootloader as any attempts to downgrade the bootloader could hard brick you phone.
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@gfinockio, is your phone sim unlocked? If not and you don't see any mention of the warranty bit in download mode, you could flash back to stock 4.1.1, use the free method to sim unlock, and then run OTA updates until you are running the latest ROM. OTA updates are the safest route to upgrade the phone.
If you phone is sim unlocked already, you could flash directly to the latest ROM; however, you will not be able to downgrade the bootloader as any attempts to downgrade the bootloader could hard brick you phone.
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I used the "free unlock" in 4.1.2 (so it's unlocked) but I thought when you upgraded the bootloader you lost that lock. Now that I believe that isn't the case (and I've used a different tool to unlock as well), I may just try the OTA updates. I was with MTS (Manitoba), but now I'm with Rogers, so I guess I would just use the Rogers OTA images to upgrade from 4.1.2 to 4.4? Do I use Odin or whatever to do that? Once I upgrade to a "stock" image, won't the updater just prompt me to upgrade again and again until I'm "up to date"?
Unlocking the phone via code or the free method is permanent even after upgrading the ROM, bootloader, and modem.
The carrier ROMs for the i747m are pretty much identical but I always recommend sticking with the original carrier's ROM. If you download the stock image from sammobile.com, use Odin to flash the ROM.
OTA updates will not work with a rooted stock ROM too.
When i search for the stock firmware on sammobile for the i747m, it doesn't have any listings. Are you able to find it on there? I don't see it.
Search for the sgh-i747m.
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When i search for the stock firmware on sammobile for the i747m, it doesn't have any listings. Are you able to find it on there? I don't see it.
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Check here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SGH-I747M/
you can sort by carrier or country.
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Hi all.
Two weeks ago I got this device (sgh i747) was rooted and was stock 4.1.1. I installed cwm and made A backup of stock room. And flash AOKP custom kitkat rom. Now I want to downgrade back to stock. or if I cannot downgrade please suggest me a stable lollypop rom.
Things I have!
1:- rooted cwm installed (sgh i747)
Backup of stock rom 4.1.1
Please help .
Thanks
mango man said:
Hi all.
Two weeks ago I got this device (sgh i747) was rooted and was stock 4.1.1. I installed cwm and made A backup of stock room. And flash AOKP custom kitkat rom. Now I want to downgrade back to stock. or if I cannot downgrade please suggest me a stable lollypop rom.
Things I have!
1:- rooted cwm installed (sgh i747)
Backup of stock rom 4.1.1
Please help .
Thanks
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If you are still on the original bootloader and modem you should be able to revert to stock 4.1.1 by simply restoring the backup from your recovery. Before you attempt to do so verify that you are indeed on the 4.1.1 bootloader. This can be done with the Phone Info *Samsung* app by VndNguyen (?sp) from the playstore or by a couple of terminal emulator commands:
Code:
getprop ro.bootloader
getprop | grep version.baseband
If you do not already have terminal emulator installed, it may have come with the ROM, you can get it from the Playstore. It may also be a part of CWM recovery, it is part of TWRP I know for sure.
If it turns out you are on a newer bootloader and modem then go with a stock ROM that matches the bootloader and modem on the phone. To run a lollypop rom you will need to be on at least the NE4 bootloader and modem.
Thanks for a very helpful reply. I m going to follow your instructions. Will soon replay. Thanks again.
dawgdoc said:
If you are still on the original bootloader and modem you should be able to revert to stock 4.1.1 by simply restoring the backup from your recovery. Before you attempt to do so verify that you are indeed on the 4.1.1 bootloader. This can be done with the Phone Info *Samsung* app by VndNguyen (?sp) from the playstore or by a couple of terminal emulator commands:
Code:
getprop ro.bootloader
getprop | grep version.baseband
If you do not already have terminal emulator installed, it may have come with the ROM, you can get it from the Playstore. It may also be a part of CWM recovery, it is part of TWRP I know for sure.
If it turns out you are on a newer bootloader and modem then go with a stock ROM that matches the bootloader and modem on the phone. To run a lollypop rom you will need to be on at least the NE4 bootloader and modem.
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Okay got Samsung phone info app.
Boot loader version -------I747UCDLK3
Baseband version -----I747UCDLK3
And please explain LATEST NE4 BOOT LOADER.
Thanks
You are currently running the LK3 bootloader and modem. If I am not mistaken that's a pretty old one (original?). You will have to update to NE4 or newer firmware before you can flash any of the newer roms. They will not boot in the older ones.
Your firmware is actually the only one available for download so I recommend flashing it via Odin and factory resetting. Then update using the Software Update option in Settings > About Device.
You can download your LK3 firmware here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SGH-I747/
You may have to run Software update several times to fully update.
That is probably the safest and easiest course you can take.
After that, flash the latest custom recovery of your choice, then flash the rom you want.
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BTW, after flashing the LK3 firmware, you might want to consider using the free Sim unlock method. (Should be pretty easy to find).
Once you update past 4.3 you can no longer use it. It will allow the device to be used on other carriers networks, which can be beneficial if you ever want to sell it or switch carriers.
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What DocHoliday77 suggests is probably the safest method to get what you want. After each update the system will force you to wait 24 hours before you can make the next update. That would be three days to get to NE4, the first 4.4.2 release by AT&T, which you need to run lollipop ROMs. If you want to update to the current release (NJ2) that would be two additional days.
You can shortcut the required waiting period by manually advancing the system date after each update.
In addition to not allowing you to use the free unlock, once you take the 4.3 bootloader it prevents you from downgrading bootloaders. Newer bootloaders do the same, downgrading will be a thing of the past. (I never took the official 4.3 bootloader until the stagefright scare came along and I went from my older custom ROM to a new release.)
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What DocHoliday77 suggests is probably the safest method to get what you want. After each update the system will force you to wait 24 hours before you can make the next update. That would be three days to get to NE4, the first 4.4.2 release by AT&T, which you need to run lollipop ROMs. If you want to update to the current release (NJ2) that would be two additional days.
You can shortcut the required waiting period by manually advancing the system date after each update.
In addition to not allowing you to use the free unlock, once you take the 4.3 bootloader it prevents you from downgrading bootloaders. Newer bootloaders do the same, downgrading will be a thing of the past. (I never took the official 4.3 bootloader until the stagefright scare came along and I went from my older custom ROM to a new release.)
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1:- Okay I fully understood what I have to do to flash lolly pop . But confused a little bit . If I have original boodloader than it should be easier to restore my stock 4.1.1 . Backup (still not clear) .
2:- I am out of USA. The device in unlocked. I am using ZONG sim on it. So the question is can I still update the device via OTA.
Thanks
mango man said:
1:- Okay I fully understood what I have to do to flash lolly pop . But confused a little bit . If I have original boodloader than it should be easier to restore my stock 4.1.1 . Backup (still not clear) .
2:- I am out of USA. The device in unlocked. I am using ZONG sim on it. So the question is can I still update the device via OTA.
Thanks
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When you say original bootloader I don't know which you have. My i747 came with 4.1.1 but before I could get it out of the clerk's hands they had taken the OTA to change it from DLK3/4.1.1 bootloader and stock rom to MG2/4.1.2 bootloader and stock rom. Even more confusing I have read reviews that state the SGS3 was originally released with android 4.0.4.
If your original bootloader was older than 4.3 (MJB) AND you have never upgraded to MJB or newer, then you can safely return to stock 4.1.1.
To get OTAs you need to be on the stock ROM, at least you do in the USA. I don't know if that holds true elsewhere.
I can confirm the S3 was originally shipped with 4.0.4! We were updated pretty quickly though.
As for the OTA'S, you do have to be full stock, not rooted. But you also have to be on AT&T network.
I don't know how far back the OTA'S are hosted around here, but enewman17 has several threads that provide the more recent ones. Hopefully someone will have the older ones. If I am not mistaken, you will have to update incrementally once you reach 4.3. (it's probably safe to jump straight to a 4.3 build if you can find the right firmware for it. But don't hold me to that as I am not 100% certain.
I'll look to see if I can find something you can use too.
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dawgdoc said:
When you say original bootloader I don't know which you have. My i747 came with 4.1.1 but before I could get it out of the clerk's hands they had taken the OTA to change it from DLK3/4.1.1 bootloader and stock rom to MG2/4.1.2 bootloader and stock rom. Even more confusing I have read reviews that state the SGS3 was originally released with android 4.0.4.
If your original bootloader was older than 4.3 (MJB) AND you have never upgraded to MJB or newer, then you can safely return to stock 4.1.1.
To get OTAs you need to be on the stock ROM, at least you do in the USA. I don't know if that holds true elsewhere.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I can confirm the S3 was originally shipped with 4.0.4! We were updated pretty quickly though.
As for the OTA'S, you do have to be full stock, not rooted. But you also have to be on AT&T network.
I don't know how far back the OTA'S are hosted around here, but enewman17 has several threads that provide the more recent ones. Hopefully someone will have the older ones. If I am not mistaken, you will have to update incrementally once you reach 4.3. (it's probably safe to jump straight to a 4.3 build if you can find the right firmware for it. But don't hold me to that as I am not 100% certain.
I'll look to see if I can find something you can use too.
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Thanks men for quick response.
now I m fully confused. Don't know what to do. because I don't want to stuck on this battery enemy rom. (Aokp kitkat. Custom rom )
I am not clear about boootader version (PHONE INFO SAMSUNG APP SAYS ITS i747ucdlk3 ) but I know when got this thing. It was android 4.1.1 . Which I have back a backup. As per I am out of att network and I can't get OTA,s so I don't need to revert to 4.1.1 backup. I think I have to find out 4.3. For my device. So kindly please inform me if some one knows about . Iwill be very thankful to u people.
Again thanks
DocHoliday77 said:
I can confirm the S3 was originally shipped with 4.0.4! We were updated pretty quickly though.
As for the OTA'S, you do have to be full stock, not rooted. But you also have to be on AT&T network.
I don't know how far back the OTA'S are hosted around here, but enewman17 has several threads that provide the more recent ones. Hopefully someone will have the older ones. If I am not mistaken, you will have to update incrementally once you reach 4.3. (it's probably safe to jump straight to a 4.3 build if you can find the right firmware for it. But don't hold me to that as I am not 100% certain.
I'll look to see if I can find something you can use too.
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I got this while searching online. Please tell me if it is helpful for.me.
http://androidromupdate.com/att-samsung-galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-odin-stock-firmware/
Never been to that site, but it looks OK to me. Nice find in fact! All the usual firmware sites stopped getting the AT&T firmware a while back.
Anyway, just to clarify, LK3 is 4.1.1. UCDLK3 is just the build number.
If you want to get fully updated, I suggest Odin flashing the MJB (4.3) firmware. Then flash each of the OTA's until you are updated to where you want to be. (I would fully update, but that'll be up to you.) The OTA'S are intended to be flashed from stock recovery, but there is another option if you want to try it. Mobile Odin is an app by chainfire. It does require you to be rooted, but it will flash the OTA. Read his thread here on xda to learn more. It's one of my favorite apps tbh! Once you learn how to use it it makes flashing quite easy.
So my recommendation would be this:
Flash MJB with Odin.
Root using Towelroot (easiest root ever)
Install Mobile Odin and flash the OTA'S.
I hope that clears things up a bit!
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Never been to that site, but it looks OK to me. Nice find in fact! All the usual firmware sites stopped getting the AT&T firmware a while back.
Anyway, just to clarify, LK3 is 4.1.1. UCDLK3 is just the build number.
If you want to get fully updated, I suggest Odin flashing the MJB (4.3) firmware. Then flash each of the OTA's until you are updated to where you want to be. (I would fully update, but that'll be up to you.) The OTA'S are intended to be flashed from stock recovery, but there is another option if you want to try it. Mobile Odin is an app by chainfire. It does require you to be rooted, but it will flash the OTA. Read his thread here on xda to learn more. It's one of my favorite apps tbh! Once you learn how to use it it makes flashing quite easy.
So my recommendation would be this:
Flash MJB with Odin.
Root using Towelroot (easiest root ever)
Install Mobile Odin and flash the OTA'S.
I hope that clears things up a bit!
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Yup! I think it is. Will try . Thanks
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Yup! I think it is. Will try . Thanks
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Update:- I am stock 4.1.1 now . I restored the device from custom AOKP kit kat rom using the stock 4.1.1 backup which I have made via CWM recovery. The device is running perfectly.
*****tried to run OTA but it says ur. Device in up to date . Means I cant get any OTA up date . So the question is can I get any custom lollypop rom using this older bootloader. ? (LK3)
DocHoliday77 said:
Never been to that site, but it looks OK to me. Nice find in fact! All the usual firmware sites stopped getting the AT&T firmware a while back.
Anyway, just to clarify, LK3 is 4.1.1. UCDLK3 is just the build number.
If you want to get fully updated, I suggest Odin flashing the MJB (4.3) firmware. Then flash each of the OTA's until you are updated to where you want to be. (I would fully update, but that'll be up to you.) The OTA'S are intended to be flashed from stock recovery, but there is another option if you want to try it. Mobile Odin is an app by chainfire. It does require you to be rooted, but it will flash the OTA. Read his thread here on xda to learn more. It's one of my favorite apps tbh! Once you learn how to use it it makes flashing quite easy.
So my recommendation would be this:
Flash MJB with Odin.
Root using Towelroot (easiest root ever)
Install Mobile Odin and flash the OTA'S.
I hope that clears things up a bit!
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Update:- I am stock 4.1.1 now . I restored the device from custom AOKP kit kat rom using the stock 4.1.1 backup which I have made via CWM recovery. The device is running perfectly.
*****tried to run OTA but it says ur. Device in up to date . Means I cant get any OTA up date . So the question is can I get any custom lollypop rom using this older bootloader. ? (LK3)
mango man said:
Update:- I am stock 4.1.1 now . I restored the device from custom AOKP kit kat rom using the stock 4.1.1 backup which I have made via CWM recovery. The device is running perfectly.
*****tried to run OTA but it says ur. Device in up to date . Means I cant get any OTA up date . So the question is can I get any custom lollypop rom using this older bootloader. ? (LK3)
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To be able to run a lollipop rom you will need to update bootloader and modem. Update them together, this is important once you reach the 4.4.2 level of bootloader and modem that you will need to run lollipop roms. Once you reach 4.4.2 you will brick your phone if the bootloader and modem versions are not the same.
Before starting to flash any of the files you need to get you up and running on lollipop, I strongly suggest you download all you need from start to finish. Store the files you will need in the upgrade process either on an external sdcard or on the root of your internal sdcard. I haven't used CWM Recovery on my SGS3 since shortly after rooting it, I have been using TWRP since then, and I don't recall all of the capabilities of CWM recovery. If the CWM version you have will not let you flash from an external sdcard you will need to store the files you will use on the root of the internal card to be able to flash them. It will be easier to do this before you start, unless you are comfortable with pushing files from a computer using adb.
BEFORE DOING ANYTHING I AM SUGGESTING read enough that you thoroughly understand what I am saying. After reading, ask questions for clarification. Be sure you have no doubts.
Decide if you intend to install a rom along with the bootloader and modem at each upgrade; or if you are going to install updating only bootloader and modem until you get them to them point that you can run a lollipop ROM. Since you said you can not do OTA updates, either way will work. Whichever you decide, you can not skip directly to the bootloader and modem you need for lollipop.
If you are installing bootloader and modems without the rom:
From the stock 4.1.1 rom and bootloader you can go straight to 4.3 bootloader and modem, skipping the 4.1.2 (MG2) version. I have personally done this with no ill consequences. After 4.3, install the first bootloader and modem version for 4.4.2, that is NE4. Lollipop will run with the NE4 bootloader. As DocHoliday stated, you can go on the the current bootloader and modem. After NE4 is NJ1. After NJ1 you come to the current bootloader and modem, which is NJ2
If you plan to install the full ROM at each step.
The page you linked to should work if all of the downloads are available. Go from 4.1.1 to 4.3 to 4.4.2 (NE4). If you want the newer versions (NJ1 or NJ2) do them in sequence, do not skip any that are mentioned. Read the instructions on your linked page carefully. If you want NJ1 and then NJ2 they can be found in threads by enewman17, as can NE4 and maybe 4.3. I didn't provide the links so that you will hopefully read the pages carefully after searching and before downloading. Be sure you understand what you are downloading to flash and how it should be used.
dawgdoc said:
To be able to run a lollipop rom you will need to update bootloader and modem. Update them together, this is important once you reach the 4.4.2 level of bootloader and modem that you will need to run lollipop roms. Once you reach 4.4.2 you will brick your phone if the bootloader and modem versions are not the same.
Before starting to flash any of the files you need to get you up and running on lollipop, I strongly suggest you download all you need from start to finish. Store the files you will need in the upgrade process either on an external sdcard or on the root of your internal sdcard. I haven't used CWM Recovery on my SGS3 since shortly after rooting it, I have been using TWRP since then, and I don't recall all of the capabilities of CWM recovery. If the CWM version you have will not let you flash from an external sdcard you will need to store the files you will use on the root of the internal card to be able to flash them. It will be easier to do this before you start, unless you are comfortable with pushing files from a computer using adb.
BEFORE DOING ANYTHING I AM SUGGESTING read enough that you thoroughly understand what I am saying. After reading, ask questions for clarification. Be sure you have no doubts.
Decide if you intend to install a rom along with the bootloader and modem at each upgrade; or if you are going to install updating only bootloader and modem until you get them to them point that you can run a lollipop ROM. Since you said you can not do OTA updates, either way will work. Whichever you decide, you can not skip directly to the bootloader and modem you need for lollipop.
If you are installing bootloader and modems without the rom:
From the stock 4.1.1 rom and bootloader you can go straight to 4.3 bootloader and modem, skipping the 4.1.2 (MG2) version. I have personally done this with no ill consequences. After 4.3, install the first bootloader and modem version for 4.4.2, that is NE4. Lollipop will run with the NE4 bootloader. As DocHoliday stated, you can go on the the current bootloader and modem. After NE4 is NJ1. After NJ1 you come to the current bootloader and modem, which is NJ2
If you plan to install the full ROM at each step.
The page you linked to should work if all of the downloads are available. Go from 4.1.1 to 4.3 to 4.4.2 (NE4). If you want the newer versions (NJ1 or NJ2) do them in sequence, do not skip any that are mentioned. Read the instructions on your linked page carefully. If you want NJ1 and then NJ2 they can be found in threads by enewman17, as can NE4 and maybe 4.3. I didn't provide the links so that you will hopefully read the pages carefully after searching and before downloading. Be sure you understand what you are downloading to flash and how it should be used.
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Thanks **** I need to be extra careful before taking any step. I am going to collect all relesed OTA,s. By now I onky need the links for ota. Thanks
Flash MJB and NE4 from the site you linked to above. Then use enewman17's thread for the NJ1 and NJ2 updates. He also has NE4, in case you want to get all the OTA'S from him. (Downloads will be a lot faster) They've all been used many times. I'll try to post a direct link in a few...
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NE4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...are-update-t2808654/post53984772#post53984772
NJ1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2941792
NJ1 and NJ2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2985006
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Flash MJB and NE4 from the site you linked to above. Then use enewman17's thread for the NJ1 and NJ2 updates. He also has NE4, in case you want to get all the OTA'S from him. (Downloads will be a lot faster) They've all been used many times. I'll try to post a direct link in a few...
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NE4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...are-update-t2808654/post53984772#post53984772
NJ1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2941792
NJ1 and NJ2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2985006
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I got this site having all ota, s . And is linked to the enewman17.
www.androidayos.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-stock-firmware-2/
Lol, I guess they thought they had to provide it somehow! It's a shame they didn't at least acknowledge enewman17 in their article there, but at least they direct linked to his thread.
Anyway, good luck! And if you have any other questions come up, let us know.
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I got the note 4 I am on kit kat N2K. I want to root but wanted to know the best way to go about it. Root on kitkat, then flash a rom to get on lollipop? Or accept the lollipop update, and then root and flash? Please advise thank you !
You'd have to decide what you want the most.
With Lollipop you get improved Sprint Wi-Fi Calling and latest security and bug fixes. The battery usage is notoriously higher in Lollipop and the fabled material theme is ugly to many.
KitKat has better battery and theme. Until the recent Android 5.1.1 updates, Lollipop bugs had many utilizing fixes to make Lollipop more like KitKat. The thing most important to consider is that if you upgrade to Android 5.1.1, the bootloader will inhibit you from Odin'g back to KitKat unless you use a specific Odin tar for OB7 to OG5 but it doesn't support the most recent OJ6 update. It's said you could just update the modem to OJ6 but I'd think you have to at least Odin the OB7 lollipop tar before doing that.
I wouldn't recommend rooting and then flashing a ROM outside of the base you're running. Use Odin to update to the equivalent base. OJ6 would be the latest but bootloader inhibits downgrade to KitKat.
I'd suggest rooting KitKat and trying it or a custom NK2 ROM. Next you could try OB7 to see if Lollipop is to your liking. Then you could decide if the latest is what you prefer.
Developer support is currently at OG5 and OJ6; Android 5.1.1 Keep in mind that Android 5.1.1 stock requires kernel with root exploit and SuperSU zip flashed in custom recovery to root. The updates prior can be rooted with CF Auto Root or just Odin custom recovery and flashing custom ROM or SuperSU zip to root stock.
What to flash? You'd have to ask a specific question once you have a better idea of what you prefer or direction you're starting at.
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Thank you for taking the time to type all that up for me! I am going to stay stock until the 14 days incase the phone has some problems before rooting but my brother and dad have note 4 also and both on 5.1.1 and phones are way smoother than mine on kit kat so I would want to be on the latest and have root. I also saw there is a note 5 rom which looks great as well. So is it cool if I PM you in a week or so to help me? I know there are threads but I dunno where to begin . Appreciate it!
Thank you,
Indels
Yes, you could PM. Are the other Note 4 phones rooted or plain stock?
Currently, the Note 5 port is one update behind latest. Maybe it will update.
You don't have to stay with KitKat. Updating won't void your return exchange. But I would recommend a factory reset before making the jump to Lollipop. You can take incremental updates over the air; KIES or Odin stock tar OJ6 from general forum would get you updated to latest in one session.
Just don't Odin custom recovery if you're concerned about Knox trip during your return period.
To get started you'll need the Samsung driver for your PC to use with KIES or Odin. You'll find that here:
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SM-N910PZWESPR# Run the .exe file on PC to install.
Here's a link to TWRP for Note 4:
https://dl.twrp.me/trltespr/twrp-2.8.7.0-trltespr.img.tar
Download Odin (below) and make a folder for it and put the TWRP file and stock tar in it. Find the latest tar in general forum and check the md5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51767811&postcount=1
You can also download the zip for ROM you wish to install. Typically, you'd flash the tar that corresponds to the ROM you wish to run for maximum compatibility so you could wait on the tar and zip. Any of these could change but preparation wouldn't hurt.
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Yeah the other 2 notes are on 5.1.1 stock. I am still on kitkat, update notification for lollipop is annoying tho I can't find a way to get rid of it lol. I get good battery on Kitkat is the phone still good on 5.1.1? Is root out for 5.1.1 as well? I would assume so. Thank you for the links! !
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Yeah the other 2 notes are on 5.1.1 stock. I am still on kitkat, update notification for lollipop is annoying tho I can't find a way to get rid of it lol. I get good battery on Kitkat is the phone still good on 5.1.1? Is root out for 5.1.1 as well? I would assume so. Thank you for the links! !
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Battery life for initial Lollipop was not so good until Beastmode kernel came out starting in OG5. I've heard OJ6 is even better but I haven't tried it.
Like I said, KitKat has better battery but worse Wi-Fi Calling feature.
Touchwiz 5.1.1 is rooted with custom kernel and SuperSU zip or any custom ROM is pre-rooted. Just don't use Chainfire auto root for Note 4 on that.
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"But I would recommend a factory reset before making the jump to Lollipop."
So I should factory reset on kit kat and then go to lollipop if I understand this part correctly? I have to notification to go to 5.0 right now. I can odin twrp once I go to lollipop too right? Sorry for so many questions just confused. I have not rooted a phone in quiet some time :fingers-crossed:
Correct. You shouldn't have any problem rooting once you update, even latest update.
You'll have to reapply TWRP after update. OTA updates are incremental but Odin or KIES will allow you to jump to latest update available. Currently, that's OJ6.
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samep said:
Correct. You shouldn't have any problem rooting once you update, even latest update.
You'll have to reapply TWRP after update. OTA updates are incremental but Odin or KIES will allow you to jump to latest update available. Currently, that's OJ6.
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So it updated on its own to lollipop.. lame so I am on 5.0.1.. the nofication was there since day 1. Now my question is can I go back to Kit kat from here? I searched google and could not find a definite answer. :crying:
I was happy on kitkat everything worked as it should and battery was great!
Ind3lible said:
So it updated on its own to lollipop.. lame so I am on 5.0.1.. the nofication was there since day 1. Now my question is can I go back to Kit kat from here? I searched google and could not find a definite answer. :crying:
I was happy on kitkat everything worked as it should and battery was great!
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OTA updates are incremental so if you catch it before it updates beyond OB7, you can still Odin back to KitKat. You should go into app manager and disable software update package in all apps and turn off auto update.
You'll need to factory reset before going back to KitKat. If you've updated past OB7, it's too late.
If you're able to jump back check out this post and follow the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62620747&postcount=3
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JUST A QUICK WORD OF ADVICE TO THE op @Ind3lible FOR YOUR SAKE DONT UPDATE BOOTLOADER BEYOND THE OB7 UPDATE TARBALL BECAUSE OF ROOT RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE TROUBLESOME TO GET AROUND... yOU CAN STILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF 5.1.1 LOLLI ROMS WITH THE OG5 BASEBAND MADE AVAILABLE BY @tx_dbs_tx
samep said:
OTA updates are incremental so if you catch it before it updates beyond OB7, you can still Odin back to KitKat. You should go into app manager and disable software update package in all apps and turn off auto update.
You'll need to factory reset before going back to KitKat. If you've updated past OB7, it's too late.
If you're able to jump back check out this post and follow the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62620747&postcount=3
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Thank you so much ! I was able to ODIN BACK! I am gonna stay on KK for the time being. Just gotta root it, I have TWRP and ODIN Downloaded now. Is there is thread for KK root? I see the 5.1.1.
Ind3lible said:
Thank you so much ! I was able to ODIN BACK! I am gonna stay on KK for the time being. Just gotta root it, I have TWRP and ODIN Downloaded now. Is there is thread for KK root? I see the 5.1.1.
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If you plan to root stock KitKat, use Chainfire auto root in Odin and then Odin TWRP; custom ROMs are already rooted, just Odin TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55865427&postcount=1
Download for SM-N910P is in third post.
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samep said:
If you plan to root stock KitKat, use Chainfire auto root in Odin and then Odin TWRP; custom ROMs are already rooted, just Odin TWRP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55865427&postcount=1
Download for SM-N910P is in third post.
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Thank you good sir! You've been of most help!!
alwright1980 said:
JUST A QUICK WORD OF ADVICE TO THE op @Ind3lible FOR YOUR SAKE DONT UPDATE BOOTLOADER BEYOND THE OB7 UPDATE TARBALL BECAUSE OF ROOT RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE TROUBLESOME TO GET AROUND... yOU CAN STILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF 5.1.1 LOLLI ROMS WITH THE OG5 BASEBAND MADE AVAILABLE BY @tx_dbs_tx
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Thank you for this.. Not sure how I missd your post but I did already update to Ok1 and am very happy with it battery is great and it is super smooth !
I havent keard of a firmware ending ok1 for the SM-N910P
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Ind3lible said:
Thank you for this.. Not sure how I missd your post but I did already update to Ok1 and am very happy with it battery is great and it is super smooth !
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These are the ones I know for Sprint Note 4
N910PVPU...
. . .ANIE . . .ANK2. . .BOB7*. . .BOF5** . . . COG5***...COJ6**
Android
[<==K I T K A T==>][<=======L O L L I P O P=========>] [^^<===4.4.4==>^^][^^<==5.0.1==>^^][^^<==5.1.1==>^^]
*No Locked Bootloader/Mininmal Root Restrictions
**May or May Not have locked Bootloader/minimal root restrictions
***Locked Bootloader/Strict Root Restrictions​All of them have there benefits. I have had people tell me that they will not leave kit kat 4.4.4 because of development is more.... well.... developed! BOB7 was the last bootloader that was a necessary component for loading a lollipop rom, AND didn't have Heavy duty root restrictions and either it or its progeny three months later was the last to not have a locked bootloader. That is where once you have their bootloader you cannot flash back to a previous one. For sure it was off by COG5 and has we all know they instituted some root restrictions that took a long time to get around and even longer time to do so with an "apparent" seandroid enforcing kernel.
All that is to say again, that, whatever you actually are on, if it is still BOB7 or earlier, then when it comes time that you want a 5.1.1 rom custom stock or otherwise, flash the appropriat baseband version of the bootloader that @tx_dbs_tx puts out it will keep you able to do the same things but without locking you into a change you cannot undo. I don't know if this will be an option for marshmallow when the note 4 gets it. If so great if no wait & update late.
My 2cents
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These are the ones I know for Sprint Note 4
N910PVPU...
. . .ANIE . . .ANK2. . .BOB7*. . .BOF5** . . . COG5***...COJ6**
Android
[<==K I T K A T==>][<=======L O L L I P O P=========>] [^^<===4.4.4==>^^][^^<==5.0.1==>^^][^^<==5.1.1==>^^]
*No Locked Bootloader/Mininmal Root Restrictions
**May or May Not have locked Bootloader/minimal root restrictions
***Locked Bootloader/Strict Root Restrictions​All of them have there benefits. I have had people tell me that they will not leave kit kat 4.4.4 because of development is more.... well.... developed! BOB7 was the last bootloader that was a necessary component for loading a lollipop rom, AND didn't have Heavy duty root restrictions and either it or its progeny three months later was the last to not have a locked bootloader. That is where once you have their bootloader you cannot flash back to a previous one. For sure it was off by COG5 and has we all know they instituted some root restrictions that took a long time to get around and even longer time to do so with an "apparent" seandroid enforcing kernel.
All that is to say again, that, whatever you actually are on, if it is still BOB7 or earlier, then when it comes time that you want a 5.1.1 rom custom stock or otherwise, flash the appropriat baseband version of the bootloader that @tx_dbs_tx puts out it will keep you able to do the same things but without locking you into a change you cannot undo. I don't know if this will be an option for marshmallow when the note 4 gets it. If so great if no wait & update late.
My 2cents
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SO been a while! I am now on 6.0.1 and I had a question. Is it possible still to go back to 4.4.4? I know the bootloader has changed since as mentioned in your earlier post but I wanna know if it is possible. I wanna test something on kitkat for my tech channel! I know I have to flash the old bootloader and modem as well but not sure if it will actually work!! :highfive:
Ind3lible said:
SO been a while! I am now on 6.0.1 and I had a question. Is it possible still to go back to 4.4.4? I know the bootloader has changed since as mentioned in your earlier post but I wanna know if it is possible. I wanna test something on kitkat for my tech channel! I know I have to flash the old bootloader and modem as well but not sure if it will actually work!! :highfive:
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I don't think it would have been possible to have gon from KK - LP - MM while preserving a KK Bootloader, and if I am correct in that you won't bee able to Odin back to KK unles you can get reliable instructions on how to seperately flash bootloader, which might be a risky venture, I simply don't know there. You also may be able to get a custom rom which is KK based but I would discuss trying to use it on a phone that has been updated to MM with the DEV if they still offer support. Whatever you do be cautious and well informed before proceeding and know your risks, otherwise it can get expensive.
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I would have thought that it would have been impossible to flash 2 a lollipop and then a marshmallow ROM from a KitKat ROM while preserving the KitKat bootloader. If I'm correct in this then you will not be able to Odin Flash from your marshmallow ROM back to stock KitKat firmware. That is unless you know of a way to separately and reliably Flash your bootloader. You may be able to use a custom rom that incorporates KitKat, but I would be careful about deploying around like that after having updated to marshmallow firmware, and I would discuss it with the developer if they're still offering support for it. Whatever you do be cautious and well informed before moving forward otherwise it can get expensive!
Ind3lible said:
SO been a while! I am now on 6.0.1 and I had a question. Is it possible still to go back to 4.4.4? I know the bootloader has changed since as mentioned in your earlier post but I wanna know if it is possible. I wanna test something on kitkat for my tech channel! I know I have to flash the old bootloader and modem as well but not sure if it will actually work!! :highfive:
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It can be done but not as you would think. The KK bootloader wouldn't flash but read the instructions in this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68456368&postcount=149
Edit: if you still have that KK backup, you could restore that instead of the KK ROM but still need the Lollipop custom kernel and Lollipop bootloader.
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Like I said I don't know anything about bootloader switching betweem KK -LP -MM. So I cannot comment effectively on whether or not it would besafe or what you might lose or gain by these methods. Just don't know.
As the title says, just looking for a stock and rooted Marshmallow, I will go on and remove the stuff I don't want. I have not seen one or my google skills are failing...
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Or a quick way to go from CM 13 to rooted stock...I really don't want to have to go through the whole process....I will if that's the only way though...
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This might be it. Post in this thread and inquire before you do anything. You might need to flash and Unlock, again, but once you Unlock, you might be able to use it Unlocked/Rooted as-is. Again, though, inquire there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...firmware-safe-upgrade-to-marshmallow-t3402727
cdrshm said:
Or a quick way to go from CM 13 to rooted stock...I really don't want to have to go through the whole process....I will if that's the only way though...
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Which CM13 version are you using? Have you upgraded the bootloader to MM yet? If you are using an older version of CM13 that was on the LP bootloader then you'll have to go through the unlocking process once more with the LP-MM hybrid firmware. If you have already done that and you have the MM bootloader then you can flash JasmineROM or PaulPizz as a close-to-stock ROM. Jasmine is probably the closest to stock.
shadeau said:
Which CM13 version are you using? Have you upgraded the bootloader to MM yet? If you are using an older version of CM13 that was on the LP bootloader then you'll have to go through the unlocking process once more with the LP-MM hybrid firmware. If you have already done that and you have the MM bootloader then you can flash JasmineROM or PaulPizz as a close-to-stock ROM. Jasmine is probably the closest to stock.
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I did end up getting on Jasmine, i did the restore of the jasmine rom from TWRP and then flash the PartialFirmware_PatchedKernel and i am working now...
PF3 Firmware
cdrshm said:
I did end up getting on Jasmine, i did the restore of the jasmine rom from TWRP and then flash the PartialFirmware_PatchedKernel and i am working now...
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I have a copy of PF3 firmware that's almost stock. It has busybox, deodexed, and zip-align. To root, you could flash su zip for system-less or just install su from playstore. It still has Knox and all bloat.
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