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Hey,
I have had an HTC Desire for about 18 months now and I rooted it about 6 months ago with a CyanogenMod ROM. It has developed major overheating issue and continuously shut downs when it gets too hot or run a processor-intensive application. I have heard that de-rooting the device could help solve these issues and am ignorant to the steps involved as I am unable to connect my phone via HTC sync to install a factory ROM on it.
I have read several topics and have come up blank. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough but any help and information anyone could provide me with would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
have you overclocked your phone ? (can you check your cpu settings )
maybe your cpu settings are to high , high cpu set may cause overheating and instability , have you tried other cm roms ? i find if i overclock my phone it warms up faster etc and becomes unstable
There are 2 things here.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and NOT overheating? If so, Overclocked at too high a frequency for your CPU to take -Take the overclocking down a Notch.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and IS overheating? If so, most likely hardware fault (PVT1 Faulty Motherboard most likely) - Return to stock and send to HTC for repair.
Overclocking itself should not cause overheating as most kernels are UNDERvolted, meaning even at overclocked frequencies, they are not using more power, meaning they are not generating more heat. An exception to this is ManU kernels, where it uses 1350mA at the high end, where stock kernels use 1300
rootSU said:
There are 2 things here.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and NOT overheating? If so, Overclocked at too high a frequency for your CPU to take -Take the overclocking down a Notch.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and IS overheating? If so, most likely hardware fault (PVT1 Faulty Motherboard most likely) - Return to stock and send to HTC for repair.
Overclocking itself should not cause overheating as most kernels are UNDERvolted, meaning even at overclocked frequencies, they are not using more power, meaning they are not generating more heat. An exception to this is ManU kernels, where it uses 1350mA at the high end, where stock kernels use 1300
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Most likely a motherboard fault. I encountered the same thing.
seriously? ****... i've dropped mine once so they won't repair the damage probably... I'm having a similar problem.. though after i've flashed a recovery image, there's no problem!
I had mine repaired...3 times. Was constantly overheating and shutting down. Was a major let down when was using it as a car navigation. 10mins and it goes off just in front of a crossroad So after all it just turned off and..that's it. So my first repair was made in official Czech centre - got it back after a few weeks and it did work for a whole day..Then I plugged it into a wall charger, opened a game and just noticed the temp rising up to 43C..couldn't do anything, the next moment it was dead. Sent to repairs, got back after..a week. It didn't even turn on (sic!), so the guys at UK repair centre didn't even test it. But after another trial it's all good. I've rooted it, installed MIUI and just today S-OFF'ed it and flashed a custom HBOOT and now have a "BONUS" 130 megs. That's my story.
I've had similar problems and from what I read it is a hardware issue related to the motherboard that they will fix if your under warantee but programs like angry birds and navigation make it happen every time I use them with most roms. Some roms are heavier and more prone to reboots the roms I experience the least overheating reboots with are miui and oxygen but I love sense so just use a sense Rom and don't use games and navigation. A bit cr*?$%p I know.
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Ok wel I'm on MIUI now, let's see what happens. Use it now for a day and have been safe still
Edit: aaaaaannnnnnnndddd it's gone....
This is going to be fun now that outside temperatures are rising...
What were you doing when it overheated, playing games or just watching it?
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DutchDisturbed said:
Ok wel I'm on MIUI now, let's see what happens. Use it now for a day and have been safe still
Edit: aaaaaannnnnnnndddd it's gone....
This is going to be fun now that outside temperatures are rising...
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you are soo right lol ) if i use the phone outside where are @ +2°C the damn phone works like new... well, when i go inside, the whole story changes... the phone start rebooting and soo on... soo yeah.. it will be interesting to use this phone in the spring
It eventually crashed and never came back! Tears were cried, but I'm still happy with the nexus 4 followup.
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Hi Guys
Well i have install several ROMS wich as HO!NO! full throtlle, Cyanogenmod 9 an 10 stables and Nigthly edition, JellyBam and others that i not even remember and all of them always in some point they just reboots and im really hate it. I use wakelocks app and it works for a few days but eventually it reboot and he battery drain really fast, 8hours in EDGE and just a little chatting on whatsapp and a few calls.
i always wipe system, datvilks etc, im kind of new on this stuuuf but i think im doing it correctly.
Im starting to think that maybe its a hadware problem. Onces i ask some crappy tech gay in a store and he told me that i should buy another battery i dont know why, i thought that he just want to sell me the battery but i dont know.
Can anyone help me or recomend a ROM or something?
I just want a ROM that doesnt reboot and good battery life and i can do normal stuff. i dont care about overclocking or anything like that,
Thanks in advance
I would install a stock rom, either stock AT&T gingerbread or ICS for the Nitro and see if it still reboots. If it does, I think you have a hardware problem.
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I would install a stock rom, either stock AT&T gingerbread or ICS for the Nitro and see if it still reboots. If it does, I think you have a hardware problem.
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I would go here first: http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB413885&cv=820
This will make sure you are 100% stock. Then if you are still having issues you know that it is a hardware problem. Just make sure you do a full wipe after install.
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Sparcots miui ics port is the only rom that has zero bugs, black screens, or reboots for me. I've tried everything else.
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Another potential issue is your SD Card.
I've also noticed lately that my Nitro sometimes randomly reboots. I run with the CM10 Nightlies. The other day, after installing a new nightly, it was really bad, almost constantly rebooting. I took out the battery, removed the SD card and let it sit for awhile (like 1/2 hour or so). Then I put everything back together, reinstalled the nightly and it's MUCH MORE stable now (still randomly reboots, but the instances are much less).
Give that a try and see if it helps at all.
Good luck!
Hi All!
I have LG P936 Optimus true hd with vodafone v20c firmware.
It`s regularly several spontaneous reboots per day. I saved logs with one reboot
03-13 17:03:41.993 F/libc ( 417): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0x00000001 (code=1)
03-13 17:03:42.404 I/DEBUG (10445):
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how it can be solved? Help please!
My solution has been to just stick with Gingerbread.. No rebooting, good battery life even with the stock battery, runs all the apps I need.
I do miss ics/jellybean, but I rather have a stable phone with great battery life than a pretty, unstable bleeding edge phone.
If anyone wants to build an awesome gingerbread/ics hybrid.. Then I am down. Lol.
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Can you tell what happened based on the logs?
two P930s (NItro HD), one with hardware issues
I have two P930s. One of them is much more sensitive to ROM settings and I find I need to limit the CPU to 1200 Mhz or so to prevent random reboots.
The other one works well at full 1500 Mhz speed. This particular model seems to have inconsistent hardware build quality. It makes me reluctant to try any other LG devices (a relative has an LG dishwasher that has also been troublesome, with random shutdowns and error codes).
possible causes
1 - bad sd card
2 - bad flash
3 - unstable recovery .
for me , i have noticed the same , and found it fixed once i upgraded my recovery
1 - bad sd card
its rebooting without sd card
2 - bad flash
its rebooting on two v20c firmware what I used
3 - unstable recovery .
I use official kdz firmware only, not cwm
I' ve got the same problem. I've changed the sd card but it didn't work.
Similar issues here with a Nitro that a friend let me borrow while I'm waiting for parts for my other phone. Random reboots on several different ROM's including stock.
I'm going to try Kernel Tuner and up the voltage a little and see if the phone is more stable. wistlo mentioned limiting the CPU to 1200 Mhz and I think he may be on the right track. If the processor cannot handle being clocked to 1500, which is stock, then a common method (at least with PC's) is to either lower the Mhz or increase the voltage. Or both.
I just tried this a few minutes ago and I'll report back later.
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Similar issues here with a Nitro that a friend let me borrow while I'm waiting for parts for my other phone. Random reboots on several different ROM's including stock.
I'm going to try Kernel Tuner and up the voltage a little and see if the phone is more stable. wistlo mentioned limiting the CPU to 1200 Mhz and I think he may be on the right track. If the processor cannot handle being clocked to 1500, which is stock, then a common method (at least with PC's) is to either lower the Mhz or increase the voltage. Or both.
I just tried this a few minutes ago and I'll report back later.
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My phone was still unstable. I decided to try a stock Gingerbread ROM and it seems to run very, very well.
budroid said:
My phone was still unstable. I decided to try a stock Gingerbread ROM and it seems to run very, very well.
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Yeah, i remember downgrading to GB to root, didn't use it muchzbut it never once rebooted.
Bought mine last week on ebay brand new (packages sealed and everything), i let it fully charged and started using it.
Came with stock ICS and has been constantly rebooting for the past week.
If i didn't live overseas and didn't have to pay so much money to clear through customs here i would have returned it, but i'm stuck with it and searching for help.
Funny thing is i've gamed on it for hours straight and stability tests for more than 2 hrs and it never rebooted. Then i'll whip out the keyboard to type a message or install an app on play store...or simple web browsing and BAM!....reboots
I've changed to 3 SD Cards even tried without it, still reboots.
All wireless signals off, reboot.
Different ROMS/Kernels, factory reset/wipe, Battery cover off, diff. governors I/Os, Underclocks & Overvolts, tried it all....except going back to GB.
It kind of irks me to know that i came from a GB phone to upgrade to a "new" phone that can only run on GB stable.
It always crashes during some really "stressLESS" stuff, lol. CPU scaling problem maybe?
Also, with no SD Card installed and on boot i get a "SD Card damaged. Try Reformatting" error. Is it normal to get this error with no SD installed?
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Funny thing is i've gamed on it for hours straight and stability tests for more than 2 hrs and it never rebooted. Then i'll whip out the keyboard to type a message or install an app on play store...or simple web browsing and BAM!....reboots
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This definitely makes me think you've got a CPU scaling problem. If you're doing something consistent, like playing a game or stress testing...The CPU will likely stay at a single frequency...But in your case, once you start doing some other activity (which very likely caused a CPU frequency change), the reboot occurs.
Definitely try installing SetCPU and set both the minimum and maximum frequency to something midrange, like 1.2GHz. This way you're locking the phone to a single value (no scaling) and not the max frequency so you won't overload it. Then do what you usually do when it reboots and If the phone stays stable, you'll know the problem is likely an issue with CPU frequency scaling. If it still reboots, at least you've removed one possible reason from the list.
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This definitely makes me think you've got a CPU scaling problem. If you're doing something consistent, like playing a game or stress testing...The CPU will likely stay at a single frequency...But in your case, once you start doing some other activity (which very likely caused a CPU frequency change), the reboot occurs.
Definitely try installing SetCPU and set both the minimum and maximum frequency to something midrange, like 1.2GHz. This way you're locking the phone to a single value (no scaling) and not the max frequency so you won't overload it. Then do what you usually do when it reboots and If the phone stays stable, you'll know the problem is likely an issue with CPU frequency scaling. If it still reboots, at least you've removed one possible reason from the list.
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It was suggested in another thread that setting the governor to conservative 486 min 1404 max fixed the BSOD, so I tried it and haven't had a single reboot since I posted the last time. I was lucky if I got 30 min before trying it out.
I agree with you, definitely seems to be CPU scaling issue.
Conservative gradually increases the speed compared to the massive min to max spikes you'd get with ondemand.
I will try that with CM10.1 Rc2 with Wind Kernel. I got a few reboot when using my Calendar app for example, while low on battery.
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radhames562 said:
Can anyone help me or recomend a ROM or something?
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Try one thing: buy you a new microsd card and see if it helps
salimbaba said:
for me , i have noticed the same , and found it fixed once i upgraded my recovery
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Tell me, plz, how can I do that? Now I have old 5.8.0.2 recovery. But since I dumped old 8Gb Sandisk and inserted 16Gb Sandisk I now had no reboots. But I want new recovery nonetheless
Hello guys,
I'm thinking of buying the LG g3 which for me is the best phone right now. However, I have seen it has some bugs regarding overheating, WiFi drop, bad battery life etc.. Do you think it is still worth it or should I go for a Z2 which has the same price in my country (Spain). Regarding the overheating issue, a lot of people say they have it and a lot of people say they don't... Is This just chance or is it linked to a specific model and version?
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1aqQQwFEgQ&list=UUO_vmeInQm5Z6dEZ6R5Kk0A
Watch that and make your own mind up - this is the opinion of Pocketnow - 3 months after launch.
nad4321 said:
Hello guys,
I'm thinking of buying the LG g3 which for me is the best phone right now. However, I have seen it has some bugs regarding overheating, WiFi drop, bad battery life etc.. Do you think it is still worth it or should I go for a Z2 which has the same price in my country (Spain). Regarding the overheating issue, a lot of people say they have it and a lot of people say they don't... Is This just chance or is it linked to a specific model and version?
Thanks
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As the overheating, since I upgraded to v10L firmware, overheating issues it completely gone for me, even after 40 minutes of playing Real Racing 3 on max detail mod or Dead Trigger 2 for about half an hour. It still heats just like every other device ( HTC, Samsung or Sony) but it doesn't get to extreme temperatures which turn off your phone automatically. What are those other bugs you are refering to?
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As the overheating, since I upgraded to v10L firmware, overheating issues it completely gone for me, even after 40 minutes of playing Real Racing 3 on max detail mod or Dead Trigger 2 for about half an hour. It still heats just like every other device ( HTC, Samsung or Sony) but it doesn't get to extreme temperatures which turn off your phone automatically. What are those other bugs you are refering to?
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I saw some people had problems with random rebooting of the phone
nad4321 said:
I saw some people had problems with random rebooting of the phone
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I have my LG G3 for 2 months now and I never experienced any random reboot,except for 2 times when it said the reason was extreme temperature, but that got away after updating firmware and never happened again. But it was only when I had first firmware. I also use ART as runtime which is considered to be buggier and more "app crashy" than Dalvik, but I never got any crash or random reboot.. Usage of unoptimized apps can random reboot any phone. As for LG software, LG's apps and the most common and most widely used apps work perfectly without any hiccup. You should never experience any error, crash or random reboot. At least I didn't. Always try to use trusted and well optimized apps if you want the best experience. Also don't install any battery or RAM cleaning apps, that **** just slows down your phone and drain your battery rapidly. It depends on you if your phone will random reboot or not. It's not just LG thing, it also concerns HTC, Sony, Samsung or any other manufacturer. You can ask my sister, she installed few cleaners, RAM boosters, 1 optimizer and 2 battery boosters on new Nexus 7 which should be most stable Android experience, but her battery life got worse and she does often get random reboot. So treat your phone well and it won't random reboot anytime
my phone have several issues but this heating problem worries me the most..
when im not touching the phone (placed on the table with display on but on lock screen) it is 35C to 38C
when i take it in hand nd unlock and even if i do nothing it rises and reaches 42-45C
when i use apps like gmail, maps, or sms the temprature is around 45-48C
when i play small games it goes between 50-60C
but the most worrying part is when i play heavy games.. the temprature goes above 60C and stabilizes at 65C.. aont once in a while it reaches 68C but comes down sooner
when i run benchmarking apps. the temprature went 70C and even reached 72C twice... will the device can handle such temprtures?
i know most of the processors are made to handle not more than 70C.. so im doubting this heat might burn my phone internals..
is it like this for all snapdragon 615 phones? or will it b fixed if they update to lollipop which is best suited for 64 bit processors?
or should i return the phone ( i have 6 days ) coz its defective??
please give me a reasonable reply some1.. i tried all forums and no reply.. please help me... i dont wanna regret buying this phone in the mean time i dont wanna regret returning this phone either so kindly help me
Please check the battery stat, and see which one is using more, I think You have mediaserver issue, If mediaserver is the highest (above 30%)
then find a fix for it, It is a bug in kitkat
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Please check the battery stat, and see which one is using more, I think You have mediaserver issue, If mediaserver is the highest (above 30%)
then find a fix for it, It is a bug in kitkat
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already went through it.. no media server issue for me... its due to some other issue i think..
im getting same issue but my load temperature is around 55-60.
i emailed it to yu customer care.they say its normal to heatup during games and internet bwosing :/
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im getting same issue but my load temperature is around 55-60.
i emailed it to yu customer care.they say its normal to heatup during games and internet bwosing :/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoODiio7qFw i feel relieved after watching this video.. since its the same case for me
But still 55-60 during asphalt is quite high
well my yureka use to heat very much (about 70°) when i record videos even of 2 or 3 minutes........ plz some one give a solution to this!
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Kartik00 said:
well my yureka use to heat very much (about 70°) when i record videos even of 2 or 3 minutes........ plz some one give a solution to this!
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cinema fv-5 <--- try this
QUOTE=arulprabin;59441013]cinema fv-5 <--- try this[/QUOTE] what is that?
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Kartik00 said:
well my yureka use to heat very much (about 70°) when i record videos even of 2 or 3 minutes........ plz some one give a solution to this!
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Hi Kartik00 ,
Did your issue got fixed? Heating problem got solved ?
It is not a problem!
It is actually OK. Most of the phones give battery temperature as CPU temperature as they do not have a heat sensor integrated with the CPU.
But for yureka it is different. I mean yureka is special one. It has a heat sensor integrated with CPU. CPU can heat up to 90°c that is normal. But when battery starts to heat up, there is a issue there. Our yureka is fine. :good:
Download CPUz it will give you a pure idea of this
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It is actually OK. Most of the phones give battery temperature as CPU temperature as they do not have a heat sensor integrated with the CPU.
But for yureka it is different. I mean yureka is special one. It has a heat sensor integrated with CPU. CPU can heat up to 90°c that is normal. But when battery starts to heat up, there is a issue there. Our yureka is fine. :good:
Download CPUz it will give you a pure idea of this
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yh thats right.. i realized it after asking around abt other ppl who owns 8core phones its not even a ISSUE.. also after cm12 update my phone doesnt heat much.. hot pluging isnt effective yet though but 2cores (from the performance cores not the power save ones) does goes to sleep when we set it to powersave mode
rollback the update to stock ROM (4.4)
Lollipop is awesome.BT the heating issue is still tr.The CPU governor s are not adjustable in lollipop. BT in kitkat we can adjust it.
In lollipop the CPU always at 950hz (min).so it heats more.
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Hi Kartik00 ,
Did your issue got fixed? Heating problem got solved ?
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I guess its not just software issue but also a design flaw made by CoolPad. They cover the main processor chip and eMMC chip with aluminum cover. I know this cover is used to prevent dust to get in and static electricity, but it also cause heating problem. Moreover, they place the LCD on top of it. So if you want to get rid the heating problem, don't buy YU, but buy MI 4i instead. If you don't use the phone, the phone temperature will stay at 45-50 degree.
U r suggesting different phone as a solution? & that too atleast 4k costlier one
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
Androsesp said:
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
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A57 cluster, probably yes. I'm also working on a kernel, but I intensely dislike Overclocking because it isn't all that useful. The key to performance is with optimisation, not with raw power. So I'm most likely not going to include it, sorry.
What about underclocking and/or undervolting?
I think performance is good enough as it is, but would like to get better battery life.
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
Crappy cpu. No point messing with it.
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I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
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Hotplugging has been dropped not long ago. You'd basically need to reinvent it. Plus it costs more power than it would save
And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
yea i guess undervolting is the only benefit here coz 2 ghz wont be hard to achieve but getting that overheating msg sooner aint worth it...
next thing u know is accessory back plates with mini fans to keep the phone cool...
seriously tho what good is the extra power for ? the phone is already fast with the correct setup (not that i saw any lag when it was stock)
anyone knows how to see the cpu binning in this phone?
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And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
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Excessive Heat?
mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
Well, the overclocking is not necessary, but is an opportunity to know the limits of the chipset. Moreover, with it we could know if we can make undervolting to our phones and make it more battery efficient with an underclocking kernel, when we need it.
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
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Happens to me too when gaming. The problem I observe is that Indeed, it is not excessive heat. But LG thinks otherwise.
You can actually underclock using Kernel Auditor and disable cores. Unless you meant Undervolting.
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Excessive Heat?
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Wanna check out periscope and comment back ? Atleast I know that app will push the phone to its limits.
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Currently using Kernel Adiutor to disable both A57 cores and the phone screen does not heat up like before... Battery life has improved from what i saw yersterday. Continuing testing today. Only problem i have is the damn phone will enable one of the A57 cores after a while which i dont like. I need my settings to stick.
Any Kernel Dev know which files are causing this? Tab 3 had something like this but a couple of files changed solved the non sticking settings on cpu.
Overclocking/underclocking sure but just disabling cores would work for most.
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mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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lol, you're funny.
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lol, you're funny.
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I haven't had any popups or heat related reboots, so I was wondering what the matter is here.
On every phone I see complaints over heat so I wondered if something is to it here or if it's the usual. And if there are overheating warnings and shutdowns, then there might be indeed something in the bush.
Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
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Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
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That happens on every phone I ever had though. It's advised to not use a device while charging at all, so if you stress it to 120% while charging, of course it heats up..
@mythos234 is a pleasure to have you here (speaking as xiaomi mi2s owner too xD)
What Temps do you reach using cpu intensive apps?