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CM -- Am I being shortsighted?

I'm really stuck between I'm being short sighted and naive, and XDA is just full of people who do things simply because they can. I know my latter argument will sound aggressive, but it's not intended to wound.
I see the CM threads. I see lots and lots of excitement over CM. But I couldn't care less. I come from a phone that HAD to have CM (note 1 / i717). Touchwiz was outdated and horrendous on it. But with the Note 3 + wanam, I really can't come up with any reason to flash CM. The few cases I've seen are being able to do things w/o xposed, but if I already have xposed set up.. what problem am I solving? And beside, with things like Tinted Bar module, I'd be running the framework regardless.
Also, with my i717, touchwiz was (post 4.0) extremely slow. I could see if our touchwiz was slow, but having debloated it myself, I can't imagine things being faster. Again, sorry about the perceived tone, but I completely dismiss all the "wow this is fast!!!!" posts as placebo (as the recent exposure to build.prop fakeness so eloquently demonstrated). We have, arguably, the fastest phone that can be purchased. With the most RAM. What's CM going to do for me switching between Gmail and Chrome? Shave off 50ms? As if my eyes can notice that.
And since I hate, hate, hate on /r/Android when someone posts some "convince me to.." threads, let me be clear, I'm genuinely curious if people have legitimate reasons to be excited about CM. Things I'm simply not aware of or grasping. I get the -- I'm bored and I'll flash because I flash because flash because TWRP because Android -- but beyond that, why? Why are we so bonerific for CM?

Yes we do do things simply because we can and that is a benefit of a open system instead of a closed system like ios. But that is not the sole reason why people get excites for cm. For me now that we got cm that means we will have more Roms and development for our device. Also the reason why I prefer aosp over touchwiz the feel of the device after I customize it. For example I turn off my hardware keys and replace then with softkeys in a setup of phone, back/kill app, home, recent/menu and chrome. Now add halo on top of that and for me I have a much more fluid experience.

i hate touchwiz,i hate the look,the feel,the flow of it. I love the nexus line of phones,but i was a large screen,i have to have an sd card slot,so for me, getting a note, and installing cm on it is my perfect phone. Im not worried about it being faster, this phone is stupid fast. i dont use any touchwiz feature, and i dont want them taking up space. I hate the stock touchwiz pull down,so i love not having to use it. Its just a personal preference to me. I also love the faster updates from having a stock android experience.

I'm kind of in the same camp as OP when it comes to CM. I do get excited about it just cause it means that development is growing for our phones and its always neat when new rom comes out, but every time I flash a CM rom I always end up back on TW because I take a ton of pictures and CM's camera suuuuuuuucks. I also always end up missing S-note. Some phones run way better on CM but like you said, ours are robust enough to run anything.

I have the i717 as well and used CM on it since I got it plus used CM on my TouchPad before that. I like the consistency that using CM on all my devices provides. I don't like TW either, the color scheme is ugly and the stock apps aren't my favorites either. I love the holo theme of AOSP. So why did I bother with the Note 3 when the Nexus 5 has pure AOSP already? I don't see a phone with anemic, limited, non-replaceable storage or battery as a good power user device. I also love the stylus but not for writing as much as using it as a precision cursor for remote desktop. The Note 3 hardware is awesome and I loved my Note 1 with CM so I wanted a Note 3 with CM. I'm also a strong believer in transparency and open source = higher quality code and AOSP ROMs usually reflect that apart from some hacks to interface with proprietary blobs. I like the customization as well and while you can get by with stock firmware and lots of mods it ends up being very hackish and not all free or open source like a proper source built ROM.
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The joy of the hole thing is you can try anything you want, however, being critical of materials here is really not what XDA is for. Either use the stuff here, contribute to the cause, and learn about development along the way.
and then, there is this thread here too...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532873

[Q] Thoughts on CM 11

Could anyone running "stock" CM 11 on their T-Mo S3 comment on the experience? Is battery usage better/worse/the same as the stock TW 4.3 ROM? Any issues with screen auto-brightness, sensors, etc? Are there any stock Samsung apps that you miss?
I'm on the fence right now- I've been stock & unrooted since I got my S3 almost 2 years ago, but now starting to get the itch to move away from all the Samsung bloat. I know there are some little things I will miss about the Samsung version of some apps like email, but having a more uniform and less junked-up experience is appealing. I know I could root & get rid of the bloat too...
Just curious as to folks' impressions- I've used CM 7-10 in the past and enjoyed it...
Thanks in advance!

Quiet out there! Well, I've run across some reports of camera issues, but that's about the only negative I see with CM11 vs. TouchWiz so far. Oh, and losing WIFI calling, which has never been a big deal to me, but I do like having the option.

Everyone has their own preferences. Personally I am a TW guy. But there's plenty of folks on both sides. Great thing is you can try it and if you don't like it, just flash back to stock based.

Yup just try it, its nice, but up to personal preference.. I think camera and WiFi calling is one of the only downsides. I didn't experience much trouble with camera it was very stable, just that the touchwiz camera app is much better and takes superior photos IMO, also has more options.. You could always try a 3rd party camera app of course, so again its personal preference

DocHoliday77 said:
Everyone has their own preferences. Personally I am a TW guy. But there's plenty of folks on both sides. Great thing is you can try it and if you don't like it, just flash back to stock based.
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Me too. I like the camera, color point is a neat feature that no other camera seems to offers, I find the launcher works well and flows nice. I keep trying other ROM's with 1534534534543 features that I don't really ever use or need and come back to the stock ROM. Running 4.4.2 from my carrier, rooted with towelroot, KT kernel for power tweaking, can uninstall all the bloat I want and I'm good.
It's a choice, but sometimes, there are too many choices. XXX Rom has all the best (our option of the best) features of A,B,C,D,E,F,G. Ya, well our rom YYY has all the best features of A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H. Ooooo. Does it really matter? lol. I like being able to update my Gapps when I want, not have to run a special version.
XDA did a test a while ago against the Linaro toolchain compiles vs gcc and found no real difference in speed of apps or battery life. XDA or some other Android site did a test of ART vs dalvik, not a huge difference, ART performing worse in some cases. Same with all the build.prop tweaks that others tout. In reality and in testing, most don't do anything, or worse in some cases.
There is too many, I guess rumors out there about Android that everyone jumps on like "tweaks", "compile flags", "odex vs deodex" that keep going around, and don't seem to change anything other than offer bugs. Hard to find a custom ROM that isn't updated all the time to fix this issues or reports of random reboots, etc, all the time in the threads.
To each their own, but in reality, I don't think there is much difference between all the different ROM's. All small, small, variations on a theme. And half the difference or added in things, not many people use anyways.

[Share] Very stable 5.0 Port for all Find7 variants!

Good news everyone!
The superfantasticawesome Nameless ROM dev team currently has a very solid 5.0 port currently open for testing! You can find it at http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/5-x-namelessrom-all-variants.22451/ .
Be sure to say thank you to them, and give them the feedback they deserve for this!
TIPS FOR INSTALLING:
Like many ROMs for the Find7 variants, this ROM needs a specific baseband or the proximity sensor gets pretty finicky. However, not all basebands seem to be compatible at the moment. For myself, I found that downgrading to the 2.0.3 beta only worked for me (I'm on a Find7a), but I've also heard that some Find7 people were able to use 1.2.5.
Enjoy your Lollipop, everyone!

Fantastic news. I'm downloading it right now. Will test tonight. Thanks.

Nameless rom works fantastic for me.Very smooth indeed. The only issue is with proximity sensor. Can you please let me know on how youdegraded the baseband version?

manojava said:
Nameless rom works fantastic for me.Very smooth indeed. The only issue is with proximity sensor. Can you please let me know on how youdegraded the baseband version?
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Use the stock recovery to flash the 2.0.3i beta, then install the 5.0 port. If you're on a non stock recovery, I'd recommend using Tantrum's recovery installer here!

I think there is no need to flash whole COS rom then Nameless LL. If some sensors are not working in LL, like proximity, try to flash other modem, no need for whole ROM.
Go to modem collection here and try to flash 1.2.5 modem, it should work.
If you have chinese model, like me, I have x9007, I flashed Modempackage_1.2.5_zixuan_cn.zip and Nameless LL is working great, only NFC is not working.

Nikola P. said:
I think there is no need to flash whole COS rom then Nameless LL. If some sensors are not working in LL, like proximity, try to flash other modem, no need for whole ROM.
Go to modem collection here and try to flash 1.2.5 modem, it should work.
If you have chinese model, like me, I have x9007, I flashed Modempackage_1.2.5_zixuan_cn.zip and Nameless LL is working great, only NFC is not working.
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Thank you so much. Its working fine after flashing the 1.2.5 modem. BTW i use find7a.

Nikola P. said:
I think there is no need to flash whole COS rom then Nameless LL. If some sensors are not working in LL, like proximity, try to flash other modem, no need for whole ROM.
Go to modem collection here and try to flash 1.2.5 modem, it should work.
If you have chinese model, like me, I have x9007, I flashed Modempackage_1.2.5_zixuan_cn.zip and Nameless LL is working great, only NFC is not working.
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That's very interesting. I tried using three different basebands (the 1.2.5, 2.0.3, and a OnePlusOne baseband) but all of them only caused the ROM to bootloop. Glad it worked for you guys though!

Hi folks,
I'm considering unifying since I quickly run out of app space. Is there any word on a L port for unify and if there is a specific unify method that has to be followed?
Thanks for your help, apologies for my ignorance.

darrenpauli said:
Hi folks,
I'm considering unifying since I quickly run out of app space. Is there any word on a L port for unify and if there is a specific unify method that has to be followed?
Thanks for your help, apologies for my ignorance.
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I believe that this ROM actually supports unified storage. Check out the link that I posted at the top, and you should find unification instructions in the first post.

Great thanks BG!

Cant wait to flash.
This is awesome, I'm happy that I accidentally came to general looking for a new ROM.
Edit:
No dice on flashing the Dec 6th 5.0.1 for me (Find7a not unified)
I tried modem versions 1.2.5i and 2.02i
Edit 2:
Dont wanna rain on anyone's parade but i got the Omni 5.0 ROM to work instead.
Edit 3:
So after finding no Root yet on Omni, i went ahead and flashed NameLess again and for some reason it works. well.. yay! (Dec 6 not unified)

I have to admit it was easier to get Omni 5.0 to work over Nameless 5.0 and I came from Nameless 4.4.4 Kit Kat.

Christendom... said:
I have to admit it was easier to get Omni 5.0 to work over Nameless 5.0 and I came from Nameless 4.4.4 Kit Kat.
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Hey, that's great! How have you found the battery life so far on Omni? I found that Nameless was a bit better in both the battery and features department, but I've been a huge fan of OmniRom for quite some time now, and would love to support their work too.

BG64 said:
Hey, that's great! How have you found the battery life so far on Omni? I found that Nameless was a bit better in both the battery and features department, but I've been a huge fan of OmniRom for quite some time now, and would love to support their work too.
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Battery life is good on Omni, however, I have to agree with you that Nameless battery life is better, and their features are more extensive.
On a side note: although the battery and features are a "bit better" on Nameless, OmniRom, in my opinion, is the gold standard for (AOSP) custom Roms. There are no fillers, they are quick to implement cutting-edge advancements, and their Roms just work. Meaning, they are stable.

Christendom... said:
Battery life is good on Omni, however, I have to agree with you that Nameless battery life is better, and their features are more extensive.
On a side note: although the battery and features are a "bit better" on Nameless, OmniRom, in my opinion, is the gold standard for (AOSP) custom Roms. There are no fillers, they are quick to implement cutting-edge advancements, and their Roms just work. Meaning, they are stable.
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That has really, over the past year, become our primary focus - on our most well supported devices, we are far more stable than many other projects. (Although the EOS guys do a damn good job too).
We're also the only project other than EOS where users of Oppo devices can routinely interact with the developers who did the hardware support of the device.
In the case of CM - Most of the work is Steve swinging his ninja sword, at least Tom does talk to users but much of the work is done by people who never come here.
In the case of all CM derivatives that blind-track CM (Nameless is in this category - in fact it was founded by some Omni maintainers who disagreed with the rest of Omni as far as blind-tracking CM vs. actually solving the problems on your device yourself.) - you're even farther removed from the people actually doing the work.
Omni and EOS both have the guys who are doing the hardware bringup communicating with users directly to look for trends and issues that stand out. (the two teams also communicate with each other...) Gummy did too before they called it quits.

Entropy512 said:
That has really, over the past year, become our primary focus - on our most well supported devices, we are far more stable than many other projects. (Although the EOS guys do a damn good job too).
We're also the only project other than EOS where users of Oppo devices can routinely interact with the developers who did the hardware support of the device.
In the case of CM - Most of the work is Steve swinging his ninja sword, at least Tom does talk to users but much of the work is done by people who never come here.
In the case of all CM derivatives that blind-track CM (Nameless is in this category - in fact it was founded by some Omni maintainers who disagreed with the rest of Omni as far as blind-tracking CM vs. actually solving the problems on your device yourself.) - you're even farther removed from the people actually doing the work.
Omni and EOS both have the guys who are doing the hardware bringup communicating with users directly to look for trends and issues that stand out. (the two teams also communicate with each other...) Gummy did too before they called it quits.
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Hey, thanks for the post Entropy. I really like hearing developers opinions. In all honesty, I was using your ROM before I switched to nameless (and only did so because it was the first fully functional, stable Lollipop ROM available) and would love to switch back. You guys seem to be pretty avid in releasing your builds as of late, so I'll certainly be keeping an eye out! All I really need in terms of features anyway is the ability to change button configurations and double tap something to sleep or wake the device (I hate using the power button) so once you have those, you'll have one more on the bandwagon. You guys really are doing something right here, and I intend to support it!

Entropy512 said:
That has really, over the past year, become our primary focus - on our most well supported devices, we are far more stable than many other projects. (Although the EOS guys do a damn good job too).
We're also the only project other than EOS where users of Oppo devices can routinely interact with the developers who did the hardware support of the device.
In the case of CM - Most of the work is Steve swinging his ninja sword, at least Tom does talk to users but much of the work is done by people who never come here.
In the case of all CM derivatives that blind-track CM (Nameless is in this category - in fact it was founded by some Omni maintainers who disagreed with the rest of Omni as far as blind-tracking CM vs. actually solving the problems on your device yourself.) - you're even farther removed from the people actually doing the work.
Omni and EOS both have the guys who are doing the hardware bringup communicating with users directly to look for trends and issues that stand out. (the two teams also communicate with each other...) Gummy did too before they called it quits.
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This is the reason I decided to stay with omni and I am really thankful that there are people like you guys out there that don't let us alone with a great device but awful default firmware (COS).
But I would really like to know your opinion about Paranoid Android, as I always thought they have (sometimes more, sometimes less) good communication to their users and a solid team of Devs that solves issues instead of blind-tracking the solutions from somewhere else.

Your Favorite ROMs and Tweaks

The HTC One M8 has been out just a little over a year now and it still competes with the latest flagship devices. Obviously this is an amazing device and outside of nexus devices it is my favorite phone of all time. I'm curious what most users think are the best Roms and tweaks for this device.
Tweaks:
For me...
MultiRom is a must. I got this phone roughly two months ago and fell in love with the device and as I'm a flashaholic MultiRom was an inevitability. Multi is definitely one of my favorite features of this phone and really android as a whole. Who would have thought years ago that we'd be dual booting cellphones?
Viper4Android is also a must for me. I own 3 pairs of higher end headphones; Sony MDR SA5000s, Beats By Dre Studio v2, and Sennheiser HD558 (I recently broke these) and V4A complements an audiophile with or without the BoomSound/HarmonKardon Tweak. V4A is another must for me especially when running AOSP builds.
-Small note: a newer audio tweak had made its way onto the android scene and I've found it compliments v4a quite well.
eXtreme Beats has no GUI or any settings, though it does have optional downloadable profiles for v4a that are pretty nice. In my experience eXtreme Beats on its own is fantastic and used in combination with v4a it definitely improves on even v4a's greatness. It should be noted that at the moment eXtreme doesn't seem to work with BoomSound or HarmonKardon...
OGYouTube, Material Messaging, and AdAway are three well known apps that aren't really tweaks but personal preferences I have to recommend.
Roms: I'm going to separate these into Sense based and AOSP/GPE
Sense:
as far as sense goes I feel like sense is light years ahead of touchwiz but it's still not my preferable framework. I think sense is cool and I can see why people enjoy it... Its just not my preference... That being said there are some sense Roms I enjoy.
ViperOne By Team Venom is, in my opinion, the best sense based ROM for the m8. I've followed team venom for awhile off and on and I used to not enjoy their work... Boy was I wrong. They've definitely stepped their game up over the years and have really taken custom sense Roms to an incredible level. The amount of customization they bring to the table is insane and they've brought a cm/aosp feel to sense that I never thought would happen. Again as far as sense Roms go theirs is my favorite.
LeeDrOiD: a close second...
The self proclaimed most senior sense ROM developer has created an awesome custom sense ROM. While his customization isn't quite as advanced as Team Venoms this is one man doing the work of the entire Venom Team and LD comes in a close second in my eyes. Both roms make sense a lot more tolerable (for me) and both deserve an immense amount of respect and admiration.
It should be noted that I dislike sense 7 and for the time being prefer sense 6 to 7 mainly because the amount of customization on 7 isn't yet up to par with 6.
AOSP/GPE: My personal preference...
I'm not going to comment on GPE. I'm on Verizon and I think DH has done a great job porting GPE to our CDMA devices... I just other the aosp feel to GPE.
There are an immense number of AOSP Roms but I'm only going to cover a few of my favorites.
(Newly Official!) PACman (Lollipop 5.1.1)
I'm somewhat biased as I fell in love with PAC when it was released on Jellybean. There have been several Roms that have combined pieces of what we love about some of the major custom Roms but I feel no one has ever done it as well as the devs at PAC. Combining (P)aranoidAndroid(A)OKP(C)yanogenMod PAC brings with it some of the best features of the big three. It also seems to have the best implementation of HeadsUp Notifications that I've seen on any aosp ROM including the newest PA builds. It also looks like we will soon be getting nightly builds now that we've got official support... Definitely my favorite aosp ROM... Really my favorite ROM period.
Dirty Unicorns(Lollipop 5.1.1)
I've started repeatedly that there is a big difference between compiling a build and actually developing. Many people are able to compile CyanogenMod and cherry pick features... Actual development (like PA did with PIE) is a different thing all together. We're lucky here on the m8 to have a developer who's building DU and creating some unique development. DU has several unique features and is an all around great build based off OmniRom. Probably my third favorite AOSP/CM style ROM.
SOKP (Sonic Open Kang Project: Lollipop 5.1.1):
SOKP has a ton of features and is built off of CyanogenMod. Like many of the other cherry picks its extensive amount of features are awesome and is definitely one of the more stable AOSP builds. This ROM also has the best sound quality (stock after install) of any AOSP build for the m8. The developer has put an immense amount of time in attempting to correct the sound issues plaguing AOSP/CM on the m8. Probably my second favorite m8 ROM.
AND LASTLY...
Lollipop Dream CyanogenMod (***Currently Lollipop 5.0*** hopefully we will see 5.1 soon):
This is pure CyanogenMod 12 built off Linaro toolchain with a few fixes and .odex'd for speed. While I prefer the current nightly builds to this rom, once the developer updates to 5.1 this will certainly be on my phone. Compared to raw cm these lollipop dream builds are much smoother and quicker. Definitely one of the best raw cm builds I've seen on any device.
Honorable Mention: (Official) Paranoid Android (Lollipop 5.1.1):
Paranoid Android is very well known and for me their latest official build is flawless. Others, however, have had cell signal issues and other small bugs with it. I love PA for their great innovation they've brought to the android community but unfortunately they are lacking a few small features that most lollipop builds have. It was disappointing to see they still don't have these small features. That coupled with the current compatibility some people are reporting has kept it off my list here. Though it is a very early release and I'm sure the PA team will have it up and running in no time.
So... What are your favorite Roms and tweaks you're using on your m8???
HTC One (M8) MultiRom: PACman 5.1.1; SOKP 5.1.1; CyanogenMod 12.1.1 (Nightlys updated weekly); ViperOne M8 w/Hypernova Kernel

Best Custom Rom?

I just got into Rooting my S4, I used to have an S3 so i'm no noob when it comes to development. the issue i am having is that since I got an S4, I see so many different Custom Roms that I don't know where to start so I thought that someone might be able to help. I just want to know your opinions on the best Custom Roms as far as lollipop and Marshmallow go for example...speed of use, OTA updates, actively developed etc. thanks for the help!

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I just got into Rooting my S4, I used to have an S3 so i'm no noob when it comes to development. the issue i am having is that since I got an S4, I see so many different Custom Roms that I don't know where to start so I thought that someone might be able to help. I just want to know your opinions on the best Custom Roms as far as lollipop and Marshmallow go for example...speed of use, OTA updates, actively developed etc. thanks for the help!
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Welcome to the S4!
There are a lot of great ROMs out right now. Just an FYI, marshmallow is stable on the S4, however, there are a few generic problems in marshmallow with Bluetooth, particularly if playing audio to a Bluetooth device when receiving a phone call. Other than that, it is pretty solid and notably smooth and fast, just like lollipop.
There is a pretty good CyanogenMod 13 and Beanstock 6.0.1 out right now in the development forum, and they update fairly regularly.
There is also a really feature rich AOKP 6.0.1 that is really solid, and a PAC ROM 6.0.1 in the forums too.
If you want features and more features, I really recommend AOKP. If you want a suped up kernel, I recommend CM13 by @javelinanddart.
If Bluetooth is a must, I recommend SlimLP, or the older Resurrection remix 5.1.1.
The great thing about custom roms, is it is like ice cream, there are lots of great flavours, and there isn't really a wrong choice. Hope that helps!

Thanks for the info! I was starting to get a little overwhelmed because their are so many choices that i didn't know where to start but now I have some direction.
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I agree with you hotshot247, there is sooo many. I have been toying with Team OctOs Oct-MM. It is very nice and very AOSP, with just a few tweaks available via there app. But like Alaska said it does have an issues when you are playing music/audio on Bluetooth and get a phone call.
I have also been toying with Albe95 S6 FULL PORT. It is a Touchwize 5.1.1 ROM. I didn't realize how much I like Touchwize and how much I have become a custom to it. For the most part any of Albe95 ROMs look good to me personally.
Albe95 also has another ROM I have been looking at, Albe95 LolliROM [S6/S7/N4/N5 Feature]. It is 5.0.1 base. It has a lot of features and app ports from some of the newest Galaxy phones.