Good day, guys.
I recently bought a HTC Desire Eye (eye_tuhl) and I was wondering if I should update the phone first to Marshmallow before rooting it? I read through the development threads and it seems that people have difficulty with regard to the Marshmallow firmware. I am planning to flash S.ROM and the patch after rooting.
Also, after rooting, which ROMs are available for flashing for my variant, if I'm going to stay S-ON? I read that some ROMs have problems with S-ON phones. I also wanted to confirm that the Minis Reloaded Kernel also works in S-ON, provided that it will be flashed using a PC and is used with a ported ROM from M8.
I am sorry if the questions seem redundant, I got confused with the whole variant/firmware/S-ON snafu coming from devices which were relatively easy to understand (HTC Sensation, Xperia ZR)
Thank you very much in advance.
jamesmalit3 said:
Good day, guys.
I recently bought a HTC Desire Eye (eye_tuhl) and I was wondering if I should update the phone first to Marshmallow before rooting it? I read through the development threads and it seems that people have difficulty with regard to the Marshmallow firmware. I am planning to flash S.ROM and the patch after rooting.
Also, after rooting, which ROMs are available for flashing for my variant, if I'm going to stay S-ON? I read that some ROMs have problems with S-ON phones. I also wanted to confirm that the Minis Reloaded Kernel also works in S-ON, provided that it will be flashed using a PC and is used with a ported ROM from M8.
I am sorry if the questions seem redundant, I got confused with the whole variant/firmware/S-ON snafu coming from devices which were relatively easy to understand (HTC Sensation, Xperia ZR)
Thank you very much in advance.
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Its a long time since I flashed new ROM on my Desire, so I'm not sure about some info (already forget a lot), sorry for that.
But here is it
1) You can't update your firmware to custom one with S-On phone, only using OTA or RUU. But you may need to do that.
(for every Android version you need correct firmware)
2) Some people had problems with installing kernels on S-On devices also.
3) Even if you succed with flashing ROM, you may have problems with it. For example, enormous battery drain (I've this, it was just horrible), mobile data not working, NFC, etc.
So, i think the best way in this situation is OTA.
Please, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
When you flash a custom ROM, you will no longer get the automatic updates OTA. Either you will have to revert to the stock ROM for the update, or the ROM developer will have to incorporate the OTA update changes into the ROM.
There are a few ROMs that attempt to give you a plain vanilla Android experience. But in my opinion, Cyanogen is one of the best mixes of plain Android with lots of extra features.
Okay that makes sense, I'm currently using a villian rom with no sense, is it worth my while installing cyanogen? and if so will i go with RC4 of wait for the stable release?
jakbjak said:
Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
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Well, the reason for many semi-bricks from trying to downgrade to original stock rom pre- or post-OTA was the fact that hboot was hacked, and not truly "S-OFF." If you search the dev section you will find the S-OFF, SIM unlock, SuperCID guide that will give you true S-OFF. I recommend reading that--it helped elucidate why semi-bricks were showing up. Once this is done, it should be easy to flash a rooted, stock ROM when the OTAs start showing up and get the update that way, or just wait for it appear in the forums (which is usually sooner than the OTA gets pushed out, anyhow).
So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
jakbjak said:
So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
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Yes, the previous S-OFF was via an engineering version of HBOOT, which was set to report S-OFF. But the security setting is actually held in the radio, and was still S-ON.
The new, "true" S-OFF (via gfree) is a lot safer than the old method, e.g. much less prone to a brick if you flash the wrong thing (e.g. an older RUU than the ROM you're running).
Hi
I just got my Desire HD today, and got all itchy to start customizing it away, but I have a couple of questions first. Coming from HD2 here, which I mostly used with Android.
Unfortunately my DHD came with the new OTA, but I can see from the other forum that downgrading is not a problem anymore.
I'm concerned with two issues, mainly. First, I don't want to lose the advantages of the 1.72 update - I can see a lot of complaints about battery for example, while my battery seems to be just perfect. My question is, if I downgrade to 1.32, then root it, will I be able to get (through a custom ROM?) the advantages of 1.72? If so, which ROM are you using?
Also, I read somewhere (Go ahead and tell me if I've been misinformed) that people still don't have all the correct drivers for the GPU part (graphics) of the DHD processor. Is that true, and will I lose performance on that part with a custom ROM right now?
Thanks in advance for your reply, and I'm glad to be now part of this community
best,
shpatar.
When you downgrade there are a fe options for u upgrading to 1.72 again while retaining root. The key thing here is to either use a custom rom or flash only the system partition of the stock rom. Leedroid seems to be the most often recommended custom rom and he is indeed a very good developer.
The main battery savings are to be had from the new radio which again can be flashed without losing root.
I would start by reading the guides on downgrading and getting radio s-off and hboot s-off.
People will be happy to help if you get stuck but no one wants to repeat information which is already laid out in the guides.
With regards to the gpu there is no issue. What you have been reading about is that leedroid wants to play with the kernel to see if he can improve gpu performance even more. There is nothing wrong with performance now though.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Thanks mate, I'm going to downgrade right now and see what happens. Cheers
As mentioned by dr.m0x: the LeeDrOid rom is one you will see mentioned often when asked for a custom rom including the 1.72 update.
Also (as mentioned partially as well)....one of the key things (going forward) you want to know about is radio s-off, which will let you flash...well...just about anything...
Although now you may not see the use of it....before the 1.72 downgrade option, if you had radio s-off you would feel comfortable
Welcome to this community....it is a great place indeed and you'll see that the devs are quick in replying and other users are quick in responding as well....
Hi
I have a desire hd and it won't upgrade to Gingerbread. I have it nearly a year and everytime I try the Software update, it says there's no updates found. It is still on version 2.2. I've sent it back to HTC for another hardware issue and they didn't upgrade it either even though I asked them too.
So could someone recommend how I can do this myself? My phone isn't rooted, and I'm a bit of a noob so any advice would be appreciated.
Also, I'm not sure what ROM I need?
Thanks,
jondom
I'd suggest you to root your phone. then you can upgrade it as often as you want to
furthermore you can use CyanogenMod 7, which is stock android 2.3, if you want to
you said, that you are still on android 2.2. I assume that you have the 1.32.x.x firmware? if so, it's quite easy to root and put a custom rom on it, because you don't have to downgrade.
No one no matter what version needs to downgrade any longer. I really cant believe how many people are still advising people to downgrade. Most of the downgrade methods don't work or are unsupported.
Click here. AAHK does everything you need to start installing custom roms. Its 1 click and if it stuffs up attn1 and the rest of the guys at #liberatedAria are always there to help. They've saved my ass afew times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
And, In future post your questions in the Q&A section. You don't want to piss the mods off
Hey guys i just got an HTC desire online for my dad..
Its running MIUI..
its rooted has recovery etc..
Im not familar with HTC phones so i dont want to go through the trouble of searching for a rom downloading flasher etc..
So if anyone has the Latest GSM Official 2.3 update can you please link it to me?
Cheers
First item on this link. Be reminded that this will unroot and flash a locked bootloader. You need to use Revolutionary to s-off and be able to flash superuser.
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
surley ur better off installing a pre rooted stock rom>?
HTC Gingerbread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200261
Fresh download links are here in the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22550909&postcount=429
Use Android Flasher to flash the Radio:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
On a similar note to this chap, I've also bought my dad a Desire off eBay which is running CM7.1 stable. Problem is, Bluetooth won't release audio back to device speakers (without rebooting the device at least) so I want to reflash stock. My dad's a bit of a brick when it comes to technology, so I don't need the device rooted.
Would you guys recommend just running the official HTC 2.3 RUU?
I'm running the above ROM after trying a few customs which were bloated, buggy and unreliable. It's just the stock 2.3 ROM with root and performance is great!
Sense is a bit of a mess for beginners (e.g. MIUI is a lot cleaner) but it's a very reliable ROM.
Looking through the Desire forums, a lot - possibly most - cases of bricking the phone arise from people trying to s-on their phone, and/or running an RUU.
Yes, you only hear about the problem cases but even so, personally, I wouldn't try to s-on unless you really need to.
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Looking through the Desire forums, a lot - possibly most - cases of bricking the phone arise from people trying to s-on their phone, and/or running an RUU.
Yes, you only hear about the problem cases but even so, personally, I wouldn't try to s-on unless you really need to.
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Agreed, go with a pre-rooted stock rom.
Plus with stock 2.3 you'll run out of memory for apps pretty quickly, so a rom that uses sd-ext would be best
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
Have I researched?
Yes. I believe I have researched myself into complete confusion. I have spent several hours on research at XDA for my phone. I am looking for the proper download for my phone, and the directions for flashing....
I have unlocked my HTC 10and turned "S-off" via Sunshine. I have a couple of questions that I need to be answered. I am sorry if this is repetitious. I believe I have read to the point of confusion, and now need clarification on something. I am running the official 1.85.605.9 ROM, S-off and unlocked HTC 10, with Verizon. I have been rooted before with latest TWRP and custom ROM..... now back to stock without root or magisk and stock recovery
First ......
IS THERE AN ANDROID 7.0 STOCK ROM THAT I CAN FLASH USING ANY FLASHING METHOD FOR MY PHONE?? If so, please point me in the right direction ( link ). SneakyGhost's thread is good, and appreciated. Yet I would prefer a different one if available ( I read until my brain hurt on that sight....):good: All I need is the download link for the Verizon Nougat Stock ROM, if there is one, so I can flash it.
Second .......
Should I wait, another 100 years( sarcasm ), for the so-called "twice halted 7.0 rollout" from HTC? If I do have to wait, I will be selling my HTC 10 and purchasing a newer, more user friendly device.
Again, I am thankful for all help.
Read the ROM OPs in the Development section and see which ones mention that they work on Verizon. Or do you mean by "stock" unrooted? If so, not sure.
1. There is no official verizon Nougat rom yet as far as I know. Not sure how switching phones will solve this, verizon is the one that updates their software once htc provides it to them.
2. Since you're s-off you can convert your phone to a U.S Unlocked one and install the official nougat ruu. Look for the conversion thread for instructions. Or you can keep your VZW firmware and radios and just flash a nougat custom rom.