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root & s-off question (M8)

im contemplating buying the at&t m8 tuesday on launch day but im worried since i know it will come locked down tight. rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
if not ill wait for root to buy.

Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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mike86325 said:
Ya I'm in the same boat. Wanted the s5, but am now here considering the one for the first time because of Knox.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.

I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
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The s5 was never in the cards with me.
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Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.

EtherealRemnant said:
I see no reason that we won't have an exploit available pretty quickly. If nothing else, you can do the official HTC unlock now and wait for S-OFF later so you can cover your tracks.
Me neither. Until KNOX is either optional or gone altogether, Samsung will never get my business again. I refuse to support a company so openly anti-developer.
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Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.

fix-this! said:
Same about sammy. I vowed id only stick to the nexus line but this m8 looks awesome if it can be rooted.
Hopefully your right and it will be htc dev unlockable from day 1. I doubt it being at&t.
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With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.

EtherealRemnant said:
With at&t its hard to tell but the One was HTC Dev unlockable on at&t at launch I thought?
This is why I'm glad I have T-Mobile. Besides the Sony phones (which T-Mobile likely doesn't even ask Sony to lock the bootloader but Sony chooses to do it themselves), T-Mobile is very cool about rooting and custom ROMs. Hell EVERY person at the T-Mobile store we go to has their **** rooted and they have no problem saying it! If an at&t employee did that, guaranteed there would be a job opening.
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Original HTC One bootloader unlock was available on day 1 then vanished. I think there are other exploits. I have unlocked the bootloader of almost every Android device I've ever owned (except my Nexus 7 FHD). I *dont* intend on doing that with my M8 unless and until the promised support and updates doesn't materialize. In the best of all possible worlds, someone will come up with a temporary root method so I can at least run Titanium backup.

Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...

matt95 said:
Every Qualcomm HTC devices has been S-OFFed, it will certainly be the same for the M8 trust me...
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i can confirm s-on

fix-this! said:
rumor has it on android central that s-off will be waiting for us? is this true or no?
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Can I get a link to the rumor?

jaythenut said:
i can confirm s-on
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Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh

matt95 said:
Are you saying that it won't be S-OFFed? Nahhh
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Well mine is saying s-on

jaythenut said:
Well mine is saying s-on
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Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course

matt95 said:
Ehm, that's normal... If you don't S-OFF it will say S-ON of course
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Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.

fil676 said:
Sorry guys, but could someone explain what S-ON and S-OFF mean?
I only have experience unlocking/rooting Nexus devices.
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S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.

meest said:
S-On means you can only install "Secure" software. S-OFF, means you can install whatever you want.
If you want roms, you'll want S-OFF.
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Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation

matt95 said:
Not completely correct, if you want ROMs you just need an unlocked bootloader and a recovery which you can get without S-OFF too...
S-OFF (Security-OFF) = much more control of the entire phone (you can do pretty much everything if you're able to do it)
if you have enough time to spend then read this perfect in depth explanation
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Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater

skaforey said:
Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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I've never tried Firewater stuff but I would wait to do that, that method hasn't even been tested on the new one...

skaforey said:
Which version of hboot is the verizon m8 shipping with? Assuming we can get root (if it's not already possible), s-off should work with firewater
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HBOOT: 3.16.0.0000
I tried the temp-root method but it failed running temp-root so I didn't bother executing the firewater command:
error in setsockopt().
Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred address.
Failed to get commit_creds address.
Failed to get ptmx_fops address.
Failed to setup variables.​

jaythenut said:
i can confirm s-on
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Alright bud
Did you swap out your N3 for this? - I pick mine up in the morning. Hoping it'll be a a quality device, miss my original One

Can't use Android 6.0 ROMs

I have tried lots of Android 6.0 based ROMs available right now ( maximusHD, Viper,CM Nightly, etc..) but non of them really worked. My phone is on 2.x.xx.x firmware and running maximusHD 6.0. Please help !!!

You need to upgrade your firmware. MM roms won't run on 2.xx firmware. This has been discussed about eighty bajillion times.

Are there any ways to upgrade my firmware without S-OFF it? Finding a person to perform S-OFF on my phone is very hard in my area so i just wanna ask

Donezo said:
Are there any ways to upgrade my firmware without S-OFF it? Finding a person to perform S-OFF on my phone is very hard in my area so i just wanna ask
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Not sure why you need someone to soff your phone. You download the sunshine app let it run its test then pay for it in 5 minutes your soff
http://theroot.ninja
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Donezo said:
Are there any ways to upgrade my firmware without S-OFF it? Finding a person to perform S-OFF on my phone is very hard in my area so i just wanna ask
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The only other way is to get a java card or xtc clip and do it yourself. But that will cost far more than sunshine.

iElvis said:
The only other way is to get a java card or xtc clip and do it yourself. But that will cost far more than sunshine.
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And a lot more chance of borking the phone too.. Sunshine is a great app and well worth the money to s-off.
Beamed in by telepathy.

Sunshine alternative for S-Off ??? (Moonshine.io)

Hey guys,
I have a Taiwanese HTC 10 and wanted to install Nougat on it. It didn't work even with Bootloader unlocked and re-locked from Htcdev.com .
In the forums here i read, that you need to have to transform to the US version. And to do that you need S-Off (please correct me if I'm wrong).
While i was looking for Sunshine alternatives that are free and i found Moonshine (moonshine.io).
My question is if this can be trusted and really S-offs your device.
The 25$ for Sunshine won't be a problem if it really works and i can transform to US and install any RUU Rom for Nougat (official of course).
What have your experiences been with TW 10s?

The only option to s-off the device is Sunshine. Moonshine doesn't work anymore on any device.

Thanks for the quick reply.
Will the To to us to nougat thing work?
I don't want to spend the money for nothing.

Lulatsch21 said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
Will the To to us to nougat thing work?
I don't want to spend the money for nothing.
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yes, sunshine is great and simple, it works.
Mine is a taiwanese also, but i don't recommend changing, when i did it made my lte/3g signal worse, i almost can't use it on cellular networks, i'd rather wait for update.

Geiger's said:
yes, sunshine is great and simple, it works.
Mine is a taiwanese also, but i don't recommend changing, when i did it made my lte/3g signal worse, i almost can't use it on cellular networks, i'd rather wait for update.
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What carrier do you have/ in which country are you?
It's weird that the taiwanese works better than the us version if you are in the us.

Lulatsch21 said:
What carrier do you have/ in which country are you?
It's weird that the taiwanese works better than the us version if you are in the us.
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Look up the de-branding thread, you can definitely do the conversion.

I own the TW version as well and would say that it's totally worth that 25 bucks to soff.
US unlocked version is always better imo

Tarima said:
Look up the de-branding thread, you can definitely do the conversion.
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I followed the Guide for debranding. I converted usind RUU (2.method) and did everything till step 8. Step 9 had to be done from the phone.
The problem is that I'm still getting Error 155 in RUU for flashing 2.28..... and 2.38....
The phone is S-Off, Unlocked and has 1.95.401.3 instead of 1.96.something (Hongkong). CID is BS_US001 and MID is 2PS620000
Any solutions?

Lulatsch21 said:
I followed the Guide for debranding. I converted usind RUU (2.method) and did everything till step 8. Step 9 had to be done from the phone.
The problem is that I'm still getting Error 155 in RUU for flashing 2.28..... and 2.38....
The phone is S-Off, Unlocked and has 1.95.401.3 instead of 1.96.something (Hongkong). CID is BS_US001 and MID is 2PS620000
Any solutions?
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If you're trying to install U.S Unlocked ruu then you need to have unlocked cid and mid. Right now you're using U.S cid but your mid is wwe.

If you're trying to flash a US RUU, the MID needs to be 2PS65000, NOT 2PS62000

silegeek said:
If you're trying to flash a US RUU, the MID needs to be 2PS65000, NOT 2PS62000
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You missed a zero on both of those. 2PS650000 and 2PS620000 it should say.

How to S-OFF for free on Nougat?

Hello,
I'm currently trying to find out how to install a rom matching to my region. I understand that I need S-OFF for that.
Sadly, I cannot find out how to make s-off. All I hear, even in those threads here, is advertisement for an app where you actually pay for a developer functionality (Sunshine). I also tried rumrunner, but that didnt work either.
It was rumrunner 0.5 on my M9 with Version 4.30.617.2. My current cid is: BS_US002

There is no other way to S-OFF your phone unless Sunshine.
I had to do it too.
Yeah it cost money but its really easy.

As stated, no way. You have 3 options, all will cost.
1. Sunshine app.
2. XTClip. (I think thats the name?).
3. Take it to a phone repair shop.
Otherwise, no free way. Sunshine app is worth paying for as it walks you through the process. If you have any problems they (the devs) will help you sort it out. Your money goes to paying staff for the hard work they do finding exploits to give us, the common everyday users, a little bit of freedom from these ever increasingly over-zealous corporations who will do anything to put us in a box and feed us crumbs so we do what they want so they can monitise us.
Beamed in by telepathy.

Like in many, many other threads, YOU CANNOT get sunshine for free. To be honest it even isn't that expensive. It is worth it as the app is so simple. The devs that created it have bricked a lot of m9's in the process of getting s-off for us.
Anyway, u still can't use sunshine on nougat. Use this thread (https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...one-m9-nougat-downgrade-s-off-t3554665/page2)
to help u to downgrade to marshmallow and run sunshine.
Hope this helps,
Jev

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I don't know where you got that information from. C.f.: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q8GKXw3EDVGtAoiu36MdeVqMPRJba1WlF5TZXKQgNgA/htmlview
Only temp-root isn't supported on nougat. But that's not a big deal since you can just unlock the bootloader and flash SuperSU or Magisk via TWRP.
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Flippy498 said:
@jevtheboss
I don't know where you got that information from. C.f.: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q8GKXw3EDVGtAoiu36MdeVqMPRJba1WlF5TZXKQgNgA/htmlview
Only temp-root isn't supported on nougat. But that's not a big deal since you can just unlock the bootloader and flash SuperSU or Magisk via TWRP.
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Oh, I was pretty sure I read that it didn't work on nougat. Jeez, I went through all that guide to downgrade to marshmallow for nothing. Dang it.
EDIT: Just checked the sunshine website and it has been updated since I last attempted s-off. Sorry, I'll stop suggesting that downgrade now!
Anyway thanks,
Jev

HTC M9
Hello every one, I'm new in HTC, I tried to install a new rom on my HTC M9 (stuck in bootloop) but it's not working, I've tried factory reset, many roms, I read almost all posts on the net (blogs) without success.
Model : HTC_HIMAUHL
Build : 3.35.401.12
CID : HTC__247
HBoot : 1.0.0.0000
MID : 0PJA10000
Security : CURITY FAILED (REMOTE: UNKNOWN COMMAND)
Region : HTC-FRA-Bouygues
I tried to set my phone S-off without success as well, unfortunately I have no way to pay sunshine for that, I live in a third world country.
please could you help, and thx in davance.

Please read the ReadMe thread. The RUU section of that thread contains everything you need for recovering your phone.
There still is no free S-OFF method and chances are high that there never will be one.
Just a friendly advice: I'd delete my IMEI from my post if I were you. Others can use it for scam.
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Flippy498 said:
Please read the ReadMe thread. The RUU section of that thread contains everything you need for recovering your phone.
There still is no free S-OFF method and chances are high that there never will be one.
Just a friendly advice: I'd delete my IMEI from my post if I were you. Others can use it for scam.
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Thx a lot for the advice, I'll have a look on the ReadMe thread.

RaviorMetal said:
Hello,
I'm currently trying to find out how to install a rom matching to my region. I understand that I need S-OFF for that.
Sadly, I cannot find out how to make s-off. All I hear, even in those threads here, is advertisement for an app where you actually pay for a developer functionality (Sunshine). I also tried rumrunner, but that didnt work either.
It was rumrunner 0.5 on my M9 with Version 4.30.617.2. My current cid is: BS_US002
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Hi,
I just unlocked my bootloader through HTCDEV.COM last night, and found that somehow it also resulted in S-OFF.
I was planning to try Chimera Tool and Fire Water, But I'm so happy to see its S-OFF without going into any of those...

shahin.meeran said:
Hi,
I just unlocked my bootloader through HTCDEV.COM last night, and found that somehow it also resulted in S-OFF.
I was planning to try Chimera Tool and Fire Water, But I'm so happy to see its S-OFF without going into any of those...
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That's not possible. HTCdev can only be used for unlocking the bootloader since HTC doesn't want users to get S-OFF on their devices. They definitely won't provide a way to get S-OFF. Chances are high that the device was already set S-OFF by a previous owner.
Firewater isn't compatible with the M9, btw. I haven't heard about chimera tool, though.
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It wasn't when I bought it 2 years ago. This is a T-Mobile version.
I don't expect you to believe, but mine is S-OFF from yesterday. Now planning to install Viper Rom

Hi,
So I did a dumb thing I paid for the 'sunshine app'
With the 'Out-of-app' purchase and then downloaded the app but the app crashes every time...
So I think I fu**** up this time

question about htc 10 model

hello, the htc 10 htc 2ps6200 model wich version is?
it´s the european model or american?
thank you

My american says 6500

Can you name your CID. Would make things easier to answer. There are quite a few 10s having MID 2PS62xxx.
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i can´t because i still don´t have it, but it seems to be the european model

dentedilupo said:
i can´t because i still don´t have it, but it seems to be the european model
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It is European.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't really matter. My understanding was the hardware is all the same (among GSM units), the only difference is in software for regions, and that's easily changed by unlocking the bootloader and changing MID via ADB.

BillTheCat said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't really matter. My understanding was the hardware is all the same (among GSM units), the only difference is in software for regions, and that's easily changed by unlocking the bootloader and changing MID via ADB.
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They are basically the same except radio bands are different I think. And you can only change MID and CID if you have S-Off.

xunholyx said:
They are basically the same except radio bands are different I think. And you can only change MID and CID if you have S-Off.
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Are you sure about that? If memory serves, unlocked bootloader will do it alone.
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BillTheCat said:
Are you sure about that? If memory serves, unlocked bootloader will do it alone.
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No he's correct, can only be done with s-off.

Tarima said:
No he's correct, can only be done with s-off.
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Hmmm... OK, then. Guess it all happened so fast, I got myself turned around. Gotta touch base with someone to correct myself. Thanks!

BillTheCat said:
Hmmm... OK, then. Guess it all happened so fast, I got myself turned around. Gotta touch base with someone to correct myself. Thanks!
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No worries, bootloader unlocking only allows you to flash TWRP/root/roms/etc as far as I know. For anything more than that, like mid/cid changes firmware flashing, you need S-off.

finally got my hands on my htc 10 european version
phone didn´t came with open bootloader and twrp, but it´s s-off
what is this serial number on the back of the phone?
employer htc phone? test phone?

anyone?

guys is my version of htc 10 the developer edition?
i bought it in ebay
what are the advantages? one thing i noticed is that it comes with s off