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anyone done any yet, if so whats the best converter and format to use and best res
think i heard on a review anything above 720 and it drops frames
anyone confirm this
thanks in advance
combat goofwing said:
anyone done any yet, if so whats the best converter and format to use and best res
think i heard on a review anything above 720 and it drops frames
anyone confirm this
thanks in advance
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There's a two-part video review that tried several bitrates and came up with an ideal for multiple formats based on CorePlayer's benchmarks. Check the video review thread.
As for 720, that's a 1280x720 resolution, so if you're converting specifically for the TP2, it's a waste and will yield lower quality video than a lower resolution because the device is having to scale it down. Shoot for 800x480 if you want the video to be ideal for the device.
Best converter is going to be a matter of personal taste. Many of the free compression programs out there are just frontends for programs like ffmpeg and mencoder, so the quality ends up being the same. It's just a question of what interface you prefer.
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Hi guys,
have you looked here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
regards
ive used the convertor terryd1980 linked to. and its great, slow on my pc (though that'll be my pc's fault) but after a small problem in using large 4gb+ files it seems fine now.
i did a bit of a test with a tv episode. a 1gb 720p file converted with the above and played through album (with a bitrate of 750), compared to coreplayer playing an unconverted 200mb dvd rip. although the dvd rips still looked excellent and played perfectly the originally hd file looked a touch better. i didnt notice any playback issues and there didnt appear to be any skipped frames. i dont know if there's anyway to display how many frames were dropped using album, but coreplayer shows 0 dropped frames after its finished playing.
I dont think it is your computer Jamie, mine runs fairly slowly too and I've spent a lot of cash making my PC pretty beefy.
As it seems to do a great job converting I'm not too fussed but I will leave it going in the background or before I leave for work so that it doesnt bother me.
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Hi guys,
have you looked here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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greate .. thx
Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.
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Okay, so I have been watching videos from the full YouTube site and they work perfectly on 720p. When I play the videos on 1080p, the videos lags, giving me something like 1 FPS. Is there a solution to this problem? Is it something with the phone or is it YouTube's problem? If anyone has any sort of insight on this problem, please post. If you are having the same problem, also post.
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Your internet speeds aren't high enough probably?
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
I just checked it myself. I have the same problem. Maybe the device doesn't support 1080p playback. Which is odd, I thought it recorded in 1080p.
1920x1080 runs just fine on mine
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YouTube 1080p runs in flash..what's you expect..also..why in the world would you watch a 1080p video on a 480p screen?
Try a different browser
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Before we had root in the first days of the sgs2, i was able to watch 1080 videos wonderufully on YT also, epicmealtime fyi. I tried it today and the stock browser lags. =/
Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.
It's not your phone it's youtube it's self. Youtube has always lagged on 1080p videos. My desktop has problems with it and I have 8 gig ram. Intel i7 sandy bridge with AMD Radeon HD 6990. Ever since youtube upgraded their interface it has been plagued with problems. My connection is 20 down 5 up.
The phone can run hi 10bit 1080p blue ray h.264 mkv videos with the lowest and highest encode possible with out losing frames. Which looks better than anything you can possibly stream. There is nothing on youtube worth watching in 1080p most videos are upscaled anyway. Which really isn't 1080p anyway.
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I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
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I think you need a quad core processer in order to watch 1080p videos.., my tab 10.1 can`t play 1080p videos...... it has the screen for it which leads me to believe it`s the processer
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aranurea said:
I watch 1080p videos because they look much clearer and less grainy than both 720p and 420p. I have tried different browsers but the same problem arises.
Sent from my SGH-T989 running Paradox ROM.
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that's your brain talking.
I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.
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I bet if I had 3 identical gsIIs one displaying 480 video, 720, and 1080 you wouldn't be able to pick which one is which.
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Haha agreed.
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ArcticWolf91 said:
Why? Why do you need to see 1080P videos on a screen that only does 480P? And of course it'll lag it's running on flash on a website not optimized for mobile. Geez this is a phone not a desktop gaming rig.
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I think many of us are spec whores because we want a mobile desktop experience/replacement/all-in-one mega device and I don't think you picked up your GS2 without thinking the same.
I bet i could jesse james. How bout you run a vid on all three options and take a screenie and post. Im not looking to start something, i just want to prove a point
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Never mind. My logic was wrong but I watch CoD vids mostly so I can only tell the difference in such videos. But i hope you get my point. I want to maximize my phone's use.
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I am planning on getting a Sprint Galaxy Nexus (have too many unused upgrade lines lol). And I was wondering how it performs on 720p 10bit video. From what I read it is able to play on MX Player, BS Player, Dice Player but I am more worried about performance. Some devices I hear have issues playing 10bit high action scenes so I want to know how it does. And if anyone has any experience with this?
I don't know but the nexus decodes 1080p video at the hardware level due to its chipset, not software like many phones. So it handles video playback like a champ.
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I don't know but the nexus decodes 1080p video at the hardware level due to its chipset, not software like many phones. So it handles video playback like a champ.
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I don't think any phone can do hardware decoding of 10bit video. 8bit video even a 1ghz single core hummingbird can play back 1080p with hardware decoding. But I am more particularly interested in 10bit which is more then likely decoded via software.
gTen said:
I don't think any phone can do hardware decoding of 10bit video. 8bit video even a 1ghz single core hummingbird can play back 1080p with hardware decoding. But I am more particularly interested in 10bit which is more then likely decoded via software.
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Can you point someone to where they can download a 10bit video and test it for you? (Maybe just a short clip?)
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infazzdar said:
Can you point someone to where they can download a 10bit video and test it for you? (Maybe just a short clip?)
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OK I found some samples online:
There are 2 10bit 720p samples here:
http://www.cccp-project.net/beta/test_files/
And there are some hi10 1080p samples here:
http://android.tnonline.net/Software/Video/Hi10P Software/
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OK I found some samples online:
There are 2 10bit 720p samples here:
http://www.cccp-project.net/beta/test_files/
And there are some hi10 1080p samples here:
http://android.tnonline.net/Software/Video/Hi10P Software/
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Downloading one now I'll let u know.
OK, those are mkvs and the stock video player can't play them.
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try vlc beta or mx player. H/W decoding might not work with these files but software playback could be fine in theory.
MX Player can decode 720p 10-bit (Hi10P) files using its software decoder but it's very slow. You'd better off reencoding them using Handbrake.
PS: Even without action scenes, 10-bit files lag on the GNex.
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Downloading one now I'll let u know.
OK, those are mkvs and the stock video player can't play them.
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Yes, stock won't play them. It would need MXplayer, BS Player, Dice Player or etc.
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try vlc beta or mx player. H/W decoding might not work with these files but software playback could be fine in theory.
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Well I am able to play back 10bit 720p on my Droid Charge so as far as playback it should be able to do it, the problem is performance. the droid charge isn't powerful enough unfortunately.
doomed151 said:
MX Player can decode 720p 10-bit (Hi10P) files using its software decoder but it's very slow. You'd better off reencoding them using Handbrake.
PS: Even without action scenes, 10-bit files lag on the GNex.
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Well if I am going to transcode then it kind of eliminates some of the purpose. Have you tried in MX Player to set it to use both cores? fast mode? 16 bit color depth? overclocking the phone? None of the above would help?
10-bit H.264 is pointless. The screen (most likely 6-bits per channel with dithering) can't even display that many colors.
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10-bit H.264 is pointless. The screen (most likely 6-bits per channel with dithering) can't even display that many colors.
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There are other benefits to 10-bit. The compression gives higher quality and smaller file sizes. Also the screens last I checked are not crappy TN panels. Super AMOLED is more then capable of displaying all colors. Even the IPS screens on phone these days are Super IPS (not to be confused with eIPS) and should be capable of displaying 10bit color.
That the format of the video is what it is and transcoding is not an option. Hence why I am interested in performance.
Don't expect anything but horrible performance. 10-bit H.264 streams can't be hardware decoded by anything on the market and probably never will.
Most S-IPS panels are also 6-bit per channel with dithering. Very few are actually 8-bit. Now, as far as monitors go, unless you're willing to spend 10 times the price for a non-consumer model, you will not find anything that supports 10-bits per channel natively. The story holds true for phones, too. I don't believe there are any 10-bit screens and I'm sure there won't be any for years to come (again, unless you're spending thousands for a phone).
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Don't expect anything but horrible performance. 10-bit H.264 streams can't be hardware decoded by anything on the market and probably never will.
Most S-IPS panels are also 6-bit per channel with dithering. Very few are actually 8-bit. Now, as far as monitors go, unless you're willing to spend 10 times the price for a non-consumer model, you will not find anything that supports 10-bits per channel natively. The story holds true for phones, too. I don't believe there are any 10-bit screens and I'm sure there won't be any for years to come (again, unless you're spending thousands for a phone).
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First of all Super AMOLED has full color support because its not an LCD. The only thing you need to do is calibrate the screen so its not saturated. If you take OLED decay asside OLED can give you perfect color reproduction batter then the best IPS screens. Of course overall 10bit ends up being converted to 8bit because the hardware needs to support it like ATI Firepro
Now for SIPS, name me one monitor that is 6bit. The low end monitors that are 6bit are eIPS which use FRC. S-IPS is at minimum 8bit.
But we are getting off topic here..all I want to do is playback 10bit content. I am well aware of the limitations and that the decoding will be software which goes back to my question. Is the nexus powerful enough for the job.
Just tried one of the sample vids with MX and VLC. VLC was stuck on the first frame and MX played it but what seemed like 1FPS. I overclocked my phone to 1812MHz and have FrancoKernel with 512MHz GPU. Set my governor to performance and still no go. Tweaked settings on MX and still no go.
Sorry OP but I'm pretty sure the GNex can't play it.
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danielsaenz said:
Just tried one of the sample vids with MX and VLC. VLC was stuck on the first frame and MX played it but what seemed like 1FPS. I overclocked my phone to 1812MHz and have FrancoKernel with 512MHz GPU. Set my governor to performance and still no go. Tweaked settings on MX and still no go.
Sorry OP but I'm pretty sure the GNex can't play it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Which samples did you try, the 720p or the 1080p?
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Just tried one of the sample vids with MX and VLC. VLC was stuck on the first frame and MX played it but what seemed like 1FPS. I overclocked my phone to 1812MHz and have FrancoKernel with 512MHz GPU. Set my governor to performance and still no go. Tweaked settings on MX and still no go.
Sorry OP but I'm pretty sure the GNex can't play it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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With those Specs sounds like you're trying to cook your phone lol. Higher isn't always better. Example, I installed Batman to my Transformer which was overclocked to 1400mhz and it lagged like crazy. Once I put it down to 1100 it ran a lot better. Maybe you might have to find the sweet spot for your phone.
Greetings,
My couzin and I both bought FireTVs around the same time.
He bought his from Amazon directly where I got mine from Staples.
I have been noticing that his FireTV is smoother and run faster specially when using XBMC. The channels cache better and get accessed faster.
I wonder if there are different "Hardware" versions of the device and the ones from amazon are the newer updated versions.
We run the same Firmware also.
The only difference is that his TV is 42" and mine is 56". Would driving a bigger screen and higher resolution slow the device?
I also checked the "system info" from inside XBMC and found that we both usually have half the 2G memory free.
We also have the same XBMC version "Gotham 13.2".
Are there any benchmark apps I could run on both devices to verify any difference in speed?
Any help is highly appreciated.
hisnawi said:
Greetings,
My couzin and I both bought FireTVs around the same time.
He bought his from Amazon directly where I got mine from Staples.
I have been noticing that his FireTV is smoother and run faster specially when using XBMC. The channels cache better and get accessed faster.
I wonder if there are different "Hardware" versions of the device and the ones from amazon are the newer updated versions.
We run the same Firmware also.
The only difference is that his TV is 42" and mine is 56". Would driving a bigger screen and higher resolution slow the device?
I also checked the "system info" from inside XBMC and found that we both usually have half the 2G memory free.
We also have the same XBMC version "Gotham 13.2".
Are there any benchmark apps I could run on both devices to verify any difference in speed?
Any help is highly appreciated.
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i can only think of his tv being 720p. lower resolution is faster. but i run it at 1080p and do not notice anything slow.
you could try Antutu benchmark but that needs a mouse i believe
You are correct. His TV is indeed 720 and mine is 1080. But could it be that?
Can I change the resolution of mye FireTV and match his 720 just to test it out?
Also, How do I get this benchmark and run it? Is it like an App that I can side load?
I have bluetooth mouse that I can hook to the FireTV that is not a problem.
You should transfer the video file over to the firetv first and then play it otherwise you would have to have them on the same network to really do any accurate testing.
It is actually a video add-on that I notice the difference in performance with, it streams over the network from their servers.
I ran Antutu benchmark and came up to 24950 on my FireTV.
I will run it on his and report the results.
Also, it was brought up in the first response that driving 1080P TV could have an effect on performance vs driving 720P.
This could be true, but I am skeptical to the fact that running the benchmark with the TV "OFF" would change the test results.
hisnawi said:
It is actually a video add-on that I notice the difference in performance with, it streams over the network from their servers.
I ran Antutu benchmark and came up to 24950 on my FireTV.
I will run it on his and report the results.
Also, it was brought up in the first response that driving 1080P TV could have an effect on performance vs driving 720P.
This could be true, but I am skeptical to the fact that running the benchmark with the TV "OFF" would change the test results.
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caching the channel info and accessing the videos quicker over the internet would probably indicate your cousin has a faster connection than you do. are you seeing lower FPS in videos ? that could be XBMC codec issues. sometimes they seem to be borky regardless of how you have them set in the settings.
your antutu score is pretty on par with normal.. so i dont think theres anything wrong with the FTV itself.
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You are correct. His TV is indeed 720 and mine is 1080. But could it be that?
Can I change the resolution of mye FireTV and match his 720 just to test it out?
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I would expect that a 720 picture would be faster than a 1080 picture for many things that the system is doing.
You have about half as many pixels to draw per frame - the number of pixels on a 720 set = 1,049,088 and on a 1080 set = 2,073,600 so if the GPU is at or above performance limited on a task at 1080, it shouldn't be at 720.
roustabout said:
I would expect that a 720 picture would be faster than a 1080 picture for many things that the system is doing.
You have about half as many pixels to draw per frame - the number of pixels on a 720 set = 1,049,088 and on a 1080 set = 2,073,600 so if the GPU is at or above performance limited on a task at 1080, it shouldn't be at 720.
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running anutu at both those resolutions results in the same score give or take so im pretty sure the issue here is network speed/latency or XBMC codec issues. playing back full a bluray mux done at 48 fps of frozen drops frames in a few areas of the movie due to the complexity of the scene.. i just tested the same sections of the movie (when elsa builds the ice bridge - LOL) and regardless of resolution i see the same FPS drop, while i agree 720P rendering is obviously less CPU/GPU intense, i dont think thats the OP issue.
you could always just drop your ftv to 720P and see if you notice a performance difference also.
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running anutu at both those resolutions results in the same score give or take so im pretty sure the issue here is network speed/latency or XBMC codec issues. playing back full a bluray mux done at 48 fps of frozen drops frames in a few areas of the movie due to the complexity of the scene.. i just tested the same sections of the movie (when elsa builds the ice bridge - LOL) and regardless of resolution i see the same FPS drop, while i agree 720P rendering is obviously less CPU/GPU intense, i dont think thats the OP issue.
you could always just drop your ftv to 720P and see if you notice a performance difference also.
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agree with everyone , i dont think its the firetv, its either xbmc or your connection
Hi all,
I got my Amazon Fire TV a few days ago, and have sideloaded XBMC for media playback. Although I was ideally looking to do that via USB, until there's a root method for the latest UK firmware, streaming will have to do, I guess.
However, the issue I am having is with playback quality. I do not know if this is down to XBMC/Kodi or AFTV, but videos are not as smooth and lovely as they are when played directly via my TV's USB port. Even my TV is not as good as my previous device, which was a Sony DVR. It had the MOST wonderful video playback, with beautiful colours, perfect balance and no noise. It failed, so I started using my TV's USB port. Video quality is not as good - it's slightly grainer, a bit overexposed.
I got Amazon Fire TV because I was expecting something better than what my almost 4 year old Samsung TV can do. All those extra bells and whistles are fine, but playback quality is THE most crucial thing for me. I am not an expert, and I do not know if Sony and Samsung have some state-of-the art upscaling, but I'm baffled that a quad-core device with a dedicated GPU is worse than both of them. Playback via XBMC is just a huge let-down.
Am I doing something wrong? Is it supposed to be like this? Am I expecting too much? Are there any settings I can try?
I'd love to hear what you all think!
Lisali said:
Hi all,
I got my Amazon Fire TV a few days ago, and have sideloaded XBMC for media playback. Although I was ideally looking to do that via USB, until there's a root method for the latest UK firmware, streaming will have to do, I guess.
However, the issue I am having is with playback quality. I do not know if this is down to XBMC/Kodi or AFTV, but videos are not as smooth and lovely as they are when played directly via my TV's USB port. Even my TV is not as good as my previous device, which was a Sony DVR. It had the MOST wonderful video playback, with beautiful colours, perfect balance and no noise. It failed, so I started using my TV's USB port. Video quality is not as good - it's slightly grainer, a bit overexposed.
I got Amazon Fire TV because I was expecting something better than what my almost 4 year old Samsung TV can do. All those extra bells and whistles are fine, but playback quality is THE most crucial thing for me. I am not an expert, and I do not know if Sony and Samsung have some state-of-the art upscaling, but I'm baffled that a quad-core device with a dedicated GPU is worse than both of them. Playback via XBMC is just a huge let-down.
Am I doing something wrong? Is it supposed to be like this? Am I expecting too much? Are there any settings I can try?
I'd love to hear what you all think!
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Having no idea what you are trying to play, what it's resolution is, what it's codec is, etc, makes it hard for anyone to say. My AFTV (rooted) with Kodi plays videos great. Everything is looking like it should, whether it's old doctor who episodes in divx, latest 720p TV releases, or 1080p movies. Previously I was watching stuff via a computer connected by a dvi- 15p vga connection. Both connections at 1080p on the TV.
And yes it is possible that your TV has a hardware upscaler that does a better job then software. If you usb tv thingy is connecting at a lower resolution then your AFTV then upscaler could play a factor. There is a post about how to change the resolution of what your AFTV connects at.
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Having no idea what you are trying to play, what it's resolution is, what it's codec is, etc, makes it hard for anyone to say. My AFTV (rooted) with Kodi plays videos great. Everything is looking like it should, whether it's old doctor who episodes in divx, latest 720p TV releases, or 1080p movies. Previously I was watching stuff via a computer connected by a dvi- 15p vga connection. Both connections at 1080p on the TV.
And yes it is possible that your TV has a hardware upscaler that does a better job then software. If you usb tv thingy is connecting at a lower resolution then your AFTV then upscaler could play a factor. There is a post about how to change the resolution of what your AFTV connects at.
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Hi nyder,
Thanks so much for your response!
I play a variety of files, but mostly mp4 in SD and MKV in 720p. 720p an above looks OK - not as good as the TV's USB or Sony, but the biggest difference is with SD mp4 files. They look noticeably worse - oversaturated, overexposed, blocky, with artefacts.
Thanks for the tip about changing the AFTV resolution. I tried that, but it did not help. Hmm...What can I do now? Shall I try something else or look for another device?
Thank you!
Lisali said:
Hi nyder,
Thanks so much for your response!
I play a variety of files, but mostly mp4 in SD and MKV in 720p. 720p an above looks OK - not as good as the TV's USB or Sony, but the biggest difference is with SD mp4 files. They look noticeably worse - oversaturated, overexposed, blocky, with artefacts.
Thanks for the tip about changing the AFTV resolution. I tried that, but it did not help. Hmm...What can I do now? Shall I try something else or look for another device?
Thank you!
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I am new to UK fire tv but I have to say I have tried a few 1080p dd5.1 H264 and so far all looks very nice streaming localy
using xbmc-13.2-Gotham-armeabi-v7a kicked off from newest plex app
madusmacus said:
I am new to UK fire tv but I have to say I have tried a few 1080p dd5.1 H264 and so far all looks very nice streaming localy
using xbmc-13.2-Gotham-armeabi-v7a kicked off from newest plex app
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How are you enjoying your device?
Yes - that seems to be the case. 1080p will look fine, but SD files look awful.
Lisali said:
How are you enjoying your device?
Yes - that seems to be the case. 1080p will look fine, but SD files look awful.
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Took me a few days to get past all the "you cant root this version" nonsense its OK now :¬)
I have firedtv and I used llama to make the old Plex app launch the new Plex app (sideloaded) and
I use air buddy to launch xbms as it detects its sideloaded and gives you a laod button :¬)
Its definatly a mark up from my old jailbroken ATV 2 - (RIP) - :¬)
Only bad thing its for me DD5.1 definatly does NOT WORK over HDMI (Netflix and amazon prime)
Fixed by buying optical cables - it its a real pain duplicating cables - grrr
XBMC of course works over either HDMI or OPTICAL
I am guessing this problem is UK version or a new firmware NERF they have done to ruin peoples life for a laugh and then buy optical cables from amazon :¬):¬):¬).
madusmacus said:
Took me a few days to get past all the "you cant root this version" nonsense its OK now :¬)
I have firedtv and I used llama to make the old Plex app launch the new Plex app (sideloaded) and
I use air buddy to launch xbms as it detects its sideloaded and gives you a laod button :¬)
Its definatly a mark up from my old jailbroken ATV 2 - (RIP) - :¬)
Only bad thing its for me DD5.1 definatly does NOT WORK over HDMI (Netflix and amazon prime)
Fixed by buying optical cables - it its a real pain duplicating cables - grrr
XBMC of course works over either HDMI or OPTICAL
I am guessing this problem is UK version or a new firmware NERF they have done to ruin peoples life for a laugh and then buy optical cables from amazon :¬):¬):¬).
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Good to hear you're enjoying it. I really wanted to use it for USB playback. As the computer is in the same room, I do not want it being on all the time, so I'm a bit annoyed that it can't be rooted to allow for USB playback. I tried XBMC, but SD playback quality is just abysmal, so I'm not sure what to do at this point.
I did not know that 5.1 does not work over HDMI - that's odd, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the heads up!
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Lisali said:
Good to hear you're enjoying it. I really wanted to use it for USB playback. As the computer is in the same room, I do not want it being on all the time, so I'm a bit annoyed that it can't be rooted to allow for USB playback. I tried XBMC, but SD playback quality is just abysmal, so I'm not sure what to do at this point.
I did not know that 5.1 does not work over HDMI - that's odd, I'll have to try that. Thanks for the heads up!
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You might want to try "MX Player"(free) for SD or PLEX (but that involves and external server)
I might just be it does not like my HDMI tv or AUDIO
I obviously can be done because XMBC works flawlessly
I am using Amazon HDMI cables too :¬)
:¬( lowest I have gone so far is 720
I was having issues with some of the services I was trying to use on my FTV. Playback would be jerky here and there. I went ahead and disabled mediacodec and everything plays nice and smooth now.
Maybe try that incase it changes the quality as well?
Hello Lisali
the same issue goes for me too.
I am rather disappointed with the picture quality of AFTV. In most of the time, I play 1080p net-downloaded movies and TV shows such as Band of brothers, Dark knight, and etc. The pictures are too blocky and grainy.
I thought it was some kind of limitation of the mobile chip(?) cause I tried MX player for playback which resulted in the same picture quality, but it seems not everybody are having the same issue.
I wonder what the problem is.
Amazon Fire TV intentionally downgrading video playback quality
wonhorang said:
Hello Lisali
the same issue goes for me too.
I am rather disappointed with the picture quality of AFTV. In most of the time, I play 1080p net-downloaded movies and TV shows such as Band of brothers, Dark knight, and etc. The pictures are too blocky and grainy.
I thought it was some kind of limitation of the mobile chip(?) cause I tried MX player for playback which resulted in the same picture quality, but it seems not everybody are having the same issue.
I wonder what the problem is.
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Hi - I see, the MX player did not help?
After some thinking, I think this is intentional on Amazon's part. Here's why: The main point of Amazon Fire TV is to promote Amazon services - Prime, App Store, music. When you look at Amazon Prime, you get a lot of content for free, but mostly in SD. Want HD? Pay more. If Amazon started upscaling their SD content, there would be no reason for people to pay to watch HD stuff.
This is quite devious, I must say. SD content = crappy. HD content = better. Pay even more for HD, Amazon makes more money. Devious - yes. Honest and honourable - no.
I and some others use SPMC and it works a lot better than xbmc
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dbaseii said:
I and some others use SPMC and it works a lot better than xbmc
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Hi - thanks for the response. That sounds good, but how is it at upscaling SD content? If this is a hardware limitation in Amazon Fire TV box, it may not be much better than Kodi. I will give it a go, thanks!
Looking at system info in SPMC it does use all 4 processors.
Other people have used the Ouya version with success.
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Any of you guys in the UK. Head over to Amazon Fire TV UK group on fb.
if it is so, how come there are guys who are satisfied with the playback quality?
from the reply, i see other guys satisfied with their amazon TV's razor sharp picture quality.
wonhorang said:
if it is so, how come there are guys who are satisfied with the playback quality?
from the reply, i see other guys satisfied with their amazon TV's razor sharp picture quality.
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They may be playing 1080p content, or are happy with the quality they get. I am not. Amazon Fire TV is NOT razor sharp.
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They may be playing 1080p content, or are happy with the quality they get. I am not. Amazon Fire TV is NOT razor sharp.
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I have gone through a few android boxes including the Minix Neo X8-H. I thought that was a great box. But tha AFTV is better. Handles even the most demanding skins and excellent picture quality. As I said in a previous post I'm using SPMC.
Lisali said:
Hi - I see, the MX player did not help?
After some thinking, I think this is intentional on Amazon's part. Here's why: The main point of Amazon Fire TV is to promote Amazon services - Prime, App Store, music. When you look at Amazon Prime, you get a lot of content for free, but mostly in SD. Want HD? Pay more. If Amazon started upscaling their SD content, there would be no reason for people to pay to watch HD stuff.
This is quite devious, I must say. SD content = crappy. HD content = better. Pay even more for HD, Amazon makes more money. Devious - yes. Honest and honourable - no.
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Are you in the UK as well? I ask as you mention Amazon Prime content being in SD, I only watch HD with my prime membership and i dont pay any extra. Granted i don't even think about looking at anything that would be in SD but everything i am interested in is always available in HD.
My experience is that SD looks like crap on any HD TV no matter how you slice it. Upscaling helps but you can still see the difference very easily
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Are you in the UK as well? I ask as you mention Amazon Prime content being in SD, I only watch HD with my prime membership and i dont pay any extra. Granted i don't even think about looking at anything that would be in SD but everything i am interested in is always available in HD.
My experience is that SD looks like crap on any HD TV no matter how you slice it. Upscaling helps but you can still see the difference very easily
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Hi - yes, I'm in the UK. Some Prime content is in HD, but not all of it is. A lot of movies, especially older ones, are SD only. Some of them are included in prime as SD, but you have to pay extra for HD. I also watch a lot of my own content, which is not always in HD, and the box seems to degrade, instead of upscale those. It's just odd that my 5 year old TV's built-in USB playback function is so much better at this than Amazon Fire TV, which is a beast of a machine. When it comes to how much better it is, I'd say 20-30% for HD and 50-60% for SD content.
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They may be playing 1080p content, or are happy with the quality they get. I am not. Amazon Fire TV is NOT razor sharp.
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Completely false. I play US TV shows (typically downscaled HD broadcasts to SD or even 640 x 360) and full HD movies ([email protected]) and I see no real image quality difference compared to my Windows 8.1 HTPC also running XBMC. I usually disable any post-processing in XBMC, in the Windows video driver (if applicable) and on the TV itself.
The claim that Amazon is on purpose degrading the video is also BS IMHO.