dumb firmware question - HTC 10 Questions & Answers

Sorry, I should know but I can't find the answer searching.
US unlocked unit on ATT, S-ON, running Viper 1.1.0. My baseband is 1.0.U......3_45.00_F
Build 1.30
Is there updated firmware I should flash or is this the most current? Not getting the baseband/build difference. Have rooted for years and run custom roms but am not a techie. Thanks in advance.

tomplatz said:
Sorry, I should know but I can't find the answer searching.
US unlocked unit on ATT, S-ON, running Viper 1.1.0. My baseband is 1.0.U......3_45.00_F
Build 1.30
Is there updated firmware I should flash or is this the most current? Not getting the baseband/build difference. Have rooted for years and run custom roms but am not a techie. Thanks in advance.
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There is never a dumb question we all need help and have questions so no worries mate
This is the latest version out for US unlocked HTC10
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-10/news/
or
http://www.htc.com/us/support/rom-downloads.html
Current is 1.53.617.5

Thank you. Looks like if i flash this i'll be back at stock and then can just reinstall viper.
Thanks!
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tomplatz said:
Thank you. Looks like if i flash this i'll be back at stock and then can just reinstall viper.
Thanks!
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Or get S-OFF, and simply take out the "firmware.zip" file out of the RUU, there is no reason for wiping or going back to stock, then via sd card you can flash the firmware in Download/Fastboot mode, or you can use a Computer to do it.
I highly suggest you get S-OFF now before HTC possibly patches it like they have many many times before, if so it could be a while before an update is available to make Sunshine work again, they are the best at getting around to it though, but HTC has blocked them before on older devices.
Besides S-ON is horrible and causes issues, like for example without a custom kernel or a kernel patch in some cases you can't install Viper4android driver, or Adaway won't work, issues like that, S-ON blocks certain writes to succeed on /System, basically S-ON=Half A** Root. :laugh:

I must be doing something wrong. I am now S-OFF via Sunshine. Downloaded the firmware package and flashed. Seemed to work, I had 1.53 in bootloader. Created a bit of havoc and had to reinstall ViperRom a few times to get the phone working again. Now showing 1.30 in About tab again.
Anyone?

Because there rom is based on 1.30
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so is there a way to make venomrom work on 1.53?
Thanks in advance

tomplatz said:
so is there a way to make venomrom work on 1.53?
Thanks in advance
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You're confusing the ROM build with your firmware. The system about info will not tell you your firmware. It shows 1.30.* because that's the ROM build.
Boot into downloader mode and it'll show your firmware as being 1.53.617.5
You will not get best performance out of a Euro build, it's missing the carrier provision information for US carriers.
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tomplatz said:
so is there a way to make venomrom work on 1.53?
Thanks in advance
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I am on US Unlocked and 1.53.617.5 firmware using Viper 10 1.2 on T-Mobile. It works great! I notice nothing different about my signal or interface with my carrier. I have VoLTE and WiFi Calling working and working well. Also, I have read that people have working VoLTE for AT&T in the Viper10 thread.
You could also use BadBoyz which is based on the US Unlocked 1.53.617.5.

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Htc noob basics rundown

Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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LiLPurP said:
Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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This should give u some pointers
If firewater does not work for your device go to the sunshine thread here
Should be all u need to unlock, root and s off and install custom recovery, then u can install roms etc.
Also any help requests belong in q&A section
shout me if u need help
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I have asked mods to move into Q&A mate
Lots of the basic terms explained well here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
Don't feel too overwhelmed, every manufacturer has their own idiosyncrasies. There is always a learning curve if you switch or buy a new brand device. Just stick with it, be patient and read up.
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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LiLPurP said:
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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That is google now. You cannot change it on sense roms to my knowledge. GPE you can used xposed and gravity box to create new "ring" shortcuts.
Thanks, ive actually been looking into the GPE ROM but not sure if i would need S-Off to use it, (S-Off is still kinda confusing) ive tried to use firewater but got a whelp error saying my device wouldnt work, and from my understanding, SunShine is the only thing that can give me S-Off, i will be doing this as soon as i have the 25 bucks to spend lol, id rather have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it
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You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
an0ther said:
You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
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I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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LiLPurP said:
I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
an0ther said:
No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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LiLPurP said:
Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
an0ther said:
As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
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Awesome thanks for the advice, guess that download wont be used for now, do you have any recommendations on roms? I have the att version if that makes a difference. And yea i made a backup in TWRP as soon as i unlocked the bootloader. I want to start slow and learn as i go, i will most likely pay the 25 for the sunshine app to s-off tomorrow, i got the phone about 3 days ago so i want it custom while i have the chance lol seems android is starting to be less open source every time i get a new phone
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an0ther said:
No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
One-M8-Master said:
If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
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Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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LiLPurP said:
Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
stathis95194 said:
ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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Yea near stock is good for me as im used to touchwiz, so id like to learn the sense system before switching around, i just dont want to make a stupid move that could have been avoided with research, but im also a very impatient person lol ok well i guess ill be flashing that tomorrow after i run sunshine. I used App2Zip to backup apps on my gs4, will this work on my m8 aas well? I find titanium backup a bit flashy for me, i need a simple user apps backup and that app works perfect
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
Ok so i will be using the sunshine app today (around 12-1 o'clock) to S-Off my m8. Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight) as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous. Ive made a nandroid backuo in TWRP. I just want to make sure ive covered everything, nobody like a $600 brick and considering i owe my mother-in-law for this phone, id like all to go smooth as i dont want to die lol. So guys any more advice? And other than a nandroid backup, is there any other way to cover my butt just in case?
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
LiLPurP said:
Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight)
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WWE = world wide English
Changing hboot is often not needed just to flash ROMs. However Android 4.4.3 (HTC software 2.22) based ROMs (ARHD 10.2 is one) happens to be an excepton; as you will need to flash what is known around here as the "firmware package" which includes hboot, radio, and other things. If you don't flash the firmware, you will likely get some serious bugs on 2.22 ROMs, including long boot times, as well as broken WiFi and Bluetooth.
You can find the process for flashing firmware below. I used this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
And specifically in the ARHD thread here also (note that for the AT&T version, firmware 2.22.1540 is recommended as you might get NO SERVICE on the international firmware): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
Be very careful you understand the process, as flashing hboot or radio is one of the few ways to actually brick the phone.
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LiLPurP said:
as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous.
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Just flashing a ROM is actually not that risky (although flashing hboot or radio can be, as mentioned). Its actually pretty hard to brick this phone just flashing a ROM, as long as you make sure to only flash ROMs or other mods only meant for the M8 (GSM).
Just be sure not to flash anything meant for other devices (including the Verizon or Spring M8) as you can actually brick the phone this way if the partitioning is different, and you overwrite any critical partitions such as hboot, radio, or the partition table.
If you stick to the correct ROMs, usually the worst that can happen is a boot loop or failure to boot into the OS (phone stuck at boot screen). But if that happens, its usually not that hard to recover. There can be various reasons and different corresponding solutions. But usually reverting to nandroid, flashing a different ROM, or re-installing recovery (and flashing the ROM again) will fix you up.
Although, nervous is a good thing to be; as it will also mean you will be careful. Which is really half the battle.
Ok guys i have gained S-Off on my device, just a quick rundown, and correct me where needed
1. S-Off is not required for rom changing, but helps
2. I have 4.4.2, any rom that has a different version than this you must first flash the firmware package first, and this can only be done in fastbootusb (if step is skipped can expect lots of errors or bootloops)
3. WWE just means roms from america? (Doesnt seem correct)
4. Changing HBOOT is not required for changing roms, unless the rom calls for it
5. Other than the android version, there is a htc version on the phone as well?
This is kind of overwhelming so far, and im not the best at instruction manuals, im more of a visual learner. And it helps when things are explained in detail, for example, explaining that i need a firmware package helps, but why do i need it, the more i understand the better i can make my decisions. And thanks guys, this is huge help, ive always come to xda for help, this free community works better and quicker than anything ive tried
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)
Downloaded the unmodified 2.22.1540.3.zip firmware, this is the correct firmware for my AT&T M8 right?
And if im right ill:
1. adb and flash the firmware twice to be safe, then reboot the phone
2. adb flash TWRP recovery, then reflash supersu in TWRP to regain root access
3. Then flash the ARHD 10.1 ROM?
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)

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hi, i want to know can i root my HTC M8 Dual Sim with KitKat (Android 4.4.4 + HTC Sense 6.0) or is their any another rom for Dual Sim,
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Boot issues
Hi everyone,
I just flashed the boot.img and installed the Root_And_BusyBox.zip file via TWRP. After a reboot, my device is stuck at the boot screen (white screen with green HTC logo and red warning about development build). Apparently it finishes booting, because when I touch the screen I can feel it respond, I can even hear the unlock sound. However the screen always stays the same. Holding the power button doesn't reboot the phone either.
Any ideas how I can get this to work again?
Thank you very much!
-iLuvatar108
Hi guys,
I am currently running stock rom and software version 3.28.709.5. I rooted with hassoon AIO Toolkit.
My questions are these :
1) should I unroot my device and follow the instructions to have access to OTA updates?
2) since my device version seems to be newer than recommended one by Mike, will Mikes method work with my version?
3) when people say that you can't process OTA updates when rooted and running a custom recovery, does that mean you literally cannot see any available updates under the HTC software update section? Or that you can see the update but cannot install it?
Thanks all especially Mike!
I am running TWRP btw and using unlocked international One M8
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cidnum: HTC__621
Hi Mike1986,
Many thanks for posting this thread. I have an M8 with cidnum: HTC__621 and modelid: 0P6B11000. Am I able to use your "stock odexed 3.28.401.7" download on this device? I note that on the first post in this thread you've mention a cidnum of "0P6B10000".
Cheers!
Jon
iLuvatar108 said:
Hi everyone,
I just flashed the boot.img and installed the Root_And_BusyBox.zip file via TWRP. After a reboot, my device is stuck at the boot screen (white screen with green HTC logo and red warning about development build). Apparently it finishes booting, because when I touch the screen I can feel it respond, I can even hear the unlock sound. However the screen always stays the same. Holding the power button doesn't reboot the phone either.
Any ideas how I can get this to work again?
Thank you very much!
-iLuvatar108
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Try holding down the power button + vol. up
It's the equivalent of a battery pull, and might clear stuff up.
You'll have to hold it down for 20 seconds or so. Be patient and wait for it to reboot before letting go.
Hi xunholyx,
Thanks for your reply, I didnt know about the Vol down in this case. With my last phone it was just holding the power button.
Anyway, what I did is wait until the battery died, then I was able to get into fastboot mode again. It seems there was something wrong with the boot.img. After I flashed the stock one again it worked fine. Not sure why it didn't want to work...
Greets,
iLuvatar108
james0908 said:
Hi guys,
I am currently running stock rom and software version 3.28.709.5. I rooted with hassoon AIO Toolkit.
My questions are these :
1) should I unroot my device and follow the instructions to have access to OTA updates?
2) since my device version seems to be newer than recommended one by Mike, will Mikes method work with my version?
3) when people say that you can't process OTA updates when rooted and running a custom recovery, does that mean you literally cannot see any available updates under the HTC software update section? Or that you can see the update but cannot install it?
Thanks all especially Mike!
I am running TWRP btw and using unlocked international One M8
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I can only speak for number 3. You will see the updates, but when you try to install them it will boot into your custom recovery, then installation will fail. Only flashing the stock recovery back will let you install the OTA. After that you can flash your custom recovery again.
Greets,
iLuvatar108
Hi, question:
When S-Off and Super-CID set, do I get OTAs offered? And if, which ones?
To be clear: I know how to install OTAs from here via stock recovery from SD-card, but I don't find a clear answer to the question above.
james0908 said:
Hi guys,
I am currently running stock rom and software version 3.28.709.5. I rooted with hassoon AIO Toolkit.
My questions are these :
1) should I unroot my device and follow the instructions to have access to OTA updates?
2) since my device version seems to be newer than recommended one by Mike, will Mikes method work with my version?
3) when people say that you can't process OTA updates when rooted and running a custom recovery, does that mean you literally cannot see any available updates under the HTC software update section? Or that you can see the update but cannot install it?
Thanks all especially Mike!
I am running TWRP btw and using unlocked international One M8
Sent from my HTC_M8x using XDA Free mobile app
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iLuvatar108 said:
I can only speak for number 3. You will see the updates, but when you try to install them it will boot into your custom recovery, then installation will fail. Only flashing the stock recovery back will let you install the OTA. After that you can flash your custom recovery again.
Greets,
iLuvatar108
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You will also need an unmodified /system partition. You will need to disable Xposed if you use it, and revert any other changes made to files in /system.
xunholyx said:
You will also need an unmodified /system partition. You will need to disable Xposed if you use it, and revert any other changes made to files in /system.
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I don't use Xposed and as far as i know haven't made any changes in /system. I might have used only the SD card permission fixer app. Not sure if that affects /system.
So if I unroot and follow this method I can have access to ota updates? Even if I'm using newer software version?
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james0908 said:
I don't use Xposed and as far as i know haven't made any changes in /system. I might have used only the SD card permission fixer app. Not sure if that affects /system.
So if I unroot and follow this method I can have access to ota updates? Even if I'm using newer software version?
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You would have to downgrade your firmware to what is stock for you before getting OTAs.
xunholyx said:
You would have to downgrade your firmware to what is stock for you before getting OTAs.
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I'm sorry but I'm not understanding completely, I am already stock firmware.
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james0908 said:
So if I unroot and follow this method I can have access to ota updates? Even if I'm using newer software version?
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You would have to downgrade your firmware to what is stock for you before getting OTAs.
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I'm sorry but I'm not understanding completely, I am already stock firmware.
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You have to downgrade your firmware to match the version of stock ROM you are using (4.4.3 i presume?).
If you are worrying about getting OTAs using the new software version, then it is not stock for you.
Maybe it is me who is misunderstanding. Did you manually update your firmware? Then it is probably not stock for you.
The OTA would have contained the new firmware.
If you need OTAs, you will have to S-Off and downgrade.
Unless I was misunderstanding what you were asking.
Edit: I see now by reading back to the beginning that I did misunderstand.
I think this method will still work, but I will check to make sure. BRB
xunholyx said:
You have to downgrade your firmware to match the version of stock ROM you are using (4.4.3 i presume?).
If you are worrying about getting OTAs using the new software version, then it is not stock for you.
Maybe it is me who is misunderstanding. Did you manually update your firmware? Then it is probably not stock for you.
The OTA would have contained the new firmware.
If you need OTAs, you will have to S-Off and downgrade.
Unless I was misunderstanding what you were asking.
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When I got the phone a week ago I'm pretty sure it was already 4.4. I processed 1 OTA, which was called the HTC Eye experience, I then unlocked and rooted using a all in one toolkit. I am now still 4.4 kitkat.
I thought the software version and firmware was the same thing?
My current software version is 3.28.709.5
And for some reason I can't see anything when I use adb getvar version-main.
I didn't manually load anything except for unlocking bootloader and rooting.
I want to process OTA in the future without unrooting but Mike the OP listed a different software version.
As you answered me in a different thread you know I'm asking about how to get my version main back.
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So if I unroot and follow this method I can have access to ota updates? Even if I'm using newer software version?
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The answer is yes. I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
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james0908 said:
As you answered me in a different thread you know I'm asking about how to get my version main back.
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No offence, but I try to help a lot of people here and don't remember all the names and issues. Nothing personal.
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james0908 said:
When I got the phone a week ago I'm pretty sure it was already 4.4. I processed 1 OTA, which was called the HTC Eye experience, I then unlocked and rooted using a all in one toolkit. I am now still 4.4 kitkat.
I thought the software version and firmware was the same thing?
My current software version is 3.28.709.5
And for some reason I can't see anything when I use adb getvar version-main.
I didn't manually load anything except for unlocking bootloader and rooting.
I want to process OTA in the future without unrooting but Mike the OP listed a different software version.
As you answered me in a different thread you know I'm asking about how to get my version main back.
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It's the ROM version and firmware version that could be different. You can be running the very newest firmware, but still be on a 4.4.2 ROM
xunholyx said:
The answer is yes. I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
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None taken man. I sent you a PM. Hoping you can help me out.
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james0908 said:
....... for some reason I can't see anything when I use adb getvar version-main.
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Try "fastboot getvar all" (no quotes) in ADB. It should list all the info you need about your phone.
xunholyx said:
Try "fastboot getvar all" (no quotes) in ADB. It should list all the info you need about your phone.
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Dude same guy who PM'ed you Lol. Tried that already. Didnt yield anything more than getvar version-main
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I already asked this in the original tread, but I see now there is a q&a section, so..
So, if I changed my build.prop, ota will fail, right?
Will it still fail if I replace build.prop with a copy (backup) of the original?

Can't flash roms

Ok so I'm having issues installing roms. I'm s-off'd , bootloader unlocked and super cid but every Rom I flash I get stuck at the HTC splash screen with red text. Any ideas?
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jonathan413 said:
Ok so I'm having issues installing roms. I'm s-off'd , bootloader unlocked and super cid but every Rom I flash I get stuck at the HTC splash screen with red text. Any ideas?
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is you TWRP Recovery up to date and is your phones firmware up to date ?
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is you TWRP Recovery up to date and is your phones firmware up to date ?
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Yeah I did an update before doing the whole process and I checked twice to make sure I was up to date after that and I am. Also I downloaded the latest TWRP directly from there site and fastboot flashed it and everything is fine except one thing . When I go flash a Rom or backup up Rom it throws out 3 lines of error about something I don't rememeber but everything still flashed and backs up so idk and its the latest TWRP I would suspect.
Edit: aside from the TWRP concern, am I suppose to flash a certain firmware before flashing roms? I've had an m8 before and never had to flash firmwares for most roms I used without issue.
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jonathan413 said:
Yeah I did an update before doing the whole process and I checked twice to make sure I was up to date after that and I am. Also I downloaded the latest TWRP directly from there site and fastboot flashed it and everything is fine except one thing . When I go flash a Rom or backup up Rom it throws out 3 lines of error about something I don't rememeber but everything still flashed and backs up so idk and its the latest TWRP I would suspect.
Edit: aside from the TWRP concern, am I suppose to flash a certain firmware before flashing roms? I've had an m8 before and never had to flash firmwares for most roms I used without issue.
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Most of the new rom are saying you need 3.x firmware
i'm Stock rooted so I'm not sure ..never tried
I also already took all the Developer Edition Updates before flashing the custom recovery and SuperSU
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Most of the new rom are saying you need 3.x firmware
i'm Stock rooted so I'm not sure ..never tried
I also already took all the Developer Edition Updates before flashing the custom recovery and SuperSU
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Yeah I'm not sure then
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Yeah I'm not sure then
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find an older version rom and flash or try one of the stock nandroids
I'm on stock att now. Was going to convert but don't want to do so then it not boot up
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You don't really want to be helped It seems, or rather you don't seem like you really want to contribute to finding a solution to the problem, rather expecting others to do it for you
You don't provide any details and have vague answers as well, you don't even seem like you want to bother with it...
"Yeah I'm not sure then"
"throws out 3 lines of error about something I don't rememeber"
What software version are you on now?
What version ROM did you try to download i.e ARHD 21.0, Viper 3.0 etc etc ?
Provide more details, how do you expect others to help you if you don't/can't/won't put some effort into this.
jonathan413 said:
Yeah I did an update before doing the whole process and I checked twice to make sure I was up to date after that and I am. Also I downloaded the latest TWRP directly from there site and fastboot flashed it and everything is fine except one thing . When I go flash a Rom or backup up Rom it throws out 3 lines of error about something I don't rememeber but everything still flashed and backs up so idk and its the latest TWRP I would suspect.
Edit: aside from the TWRP concern, am I suppose to flash a certain firmware before flashing roms? I've had an m8 before and never had to flash firmwares for most roms I used without issue.
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If you have never flashed firmware, or updated through a carrier OTA to 4.4.4, then that is your problem.
You need firmware, or an older version ROM.
Go into fastboot (hold down power and vol. down) and look at the hboot and OS numbers.
For 4.4.4 ROMs to work, they should be:
hboot-3.19.0.0000
OS-3.28.401.6(or.7)
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If you have never flashed firmware, or updated through a carrier OTA to 4.4.4, then that is your problem.
You need firmware, or an older version ROM.
Go into fastboot (hold down power and vol. down) and look at the hboot and OS numbers.
For 4.4.4 ROMs to work, they should be:
hboot-3.19.0.0000
OS-3.28.401.6(or.7)
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OS 3.xx.502.x He's not international so it won't definitely be the same number for him.
Besides he's on AT&T and I don't think they moved further than 2.23.502.3(I might be mistaken).
Seeing as he's S-OFF he might as well just flash the Developer Edition firmware on his device(AT&T and Dev Edition are same MID and share radio as far as I know) so it should be fine for him.
It'll take him to 3.28.1540.5 Then he'll be good to go on the newer ROMs, but like I said already, this dude can't be bothered.
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OS 3.xx.502.x He's not international so it won't definitely be the same number for him.
Besides he's on AT&T and I don't think they moved further than 2.23.502.3(I might be mistaken).
Seeing as he's S-OFF he might as well just flash the Developer Edition firmware on his device(AT&T and Dev Edition are same MID and share radio as far as I know) so it should be fine for him.
It'll take him to 3.28.1540.5 Then he'll be good to go on the newer ROMs, but like I said already, this dude can't be bothered.
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Your responses are rude to say the least. I've been on xda for years now and have done as much research for My problems that have arised with countless android phones I've owned. I've owned the m8 before but haven't had one in a few months and seeing updates have came out for both international and att recently I wanted to see if firmware flashing was needed as it wasn't when I had the m8 months ago. I want clarification as to why I'm having problems and I don't expect people to hand me the answers. I know that by now. If you want to flaunt your ego around then do it somewhere else. And if I came of across as someone who didn't want to be bothered then I wouldn't have put up this thread to help get clarification to the issues I'm having to I can enjoy such a great device. Rant over. Back on topic please.
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BerndM14 said:
OS 3.xx.502.x He's not international so it won't definitely be the same number for him.
Besides he's on AT&T and I don't think they moved further than 2.23.502.3(I might be mistaken).
Seeing as he's S-OFF he might as well just flash the Developer Edition firmware on his device(AT&T and Dev Edition are same MID and share radio as far as I know) so it should be fine for him.
It'll take him to 3.28.1540.5 Then he'll be good to go on the newer ROMs, but like I said already, this dude can't be bothered.
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I didn't notice that. I originally asked him to post his numbers here, then edited it to just give mine instead for some reason.
I guess I should have stuck with what I originally typed.
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jonathan413 said:
Your responses are rude to say the least. I've been on xda for years now and have done as much research for My problems that have arised with countless android phones I've owned. I've owned the m8 before but haven't had one in a few months and seeing updates have came out for both international and att recently I wanted to see if firmware flashing was needed as it wasn't when I had the m8 months ago. I want clarification as to why I'm having problems and I don't expect people to hand me the answers. I know that by now. If you want to flaunt your ego around then do it somewhere else. And if I came of across as someone who didn't want to be bothered then I wouldn't have put up this thread to help get clarification to the issues I'm having to I can enjoy such a great device. Rant over. Back on topic please.
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That's because months ago the M8 was still on it's original firmware base. The update to 4.4.3 wasn't very long ago.
And I wasn't intending to be rude.
Re-read my post.
I answered your question. I realize you've been on XDA for quite a while. But I explained not knowing how knowledgeable you are with the M8.
And if you don't know about having to update your firmware, well................
jonathan413 said:
Your responses are rude to say the least. I've been on xda for years now and have done as much research for My problems that have arised with countless android phones I've owned. I've owned the m8 before but haven't had one in a few months and seeing updates have came out for both international and att recently I wanted to see if firmware flashing was needed as it wasn't when I had the m8 months ago. I want clarification as to why I'm having problems and I don't expect people to hand me the answers. I know that by now. If you want to flaunt your ego around then do it somewhere else. And if I came of across as someone who didn't want to be bothered then I wouldn't have put up this thread to help get clarification to the issues I'm having to I can enjoy such a great device. Rant over. Back on topic please.
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You have a lot to say about absolutely nothing. I can't see how any of that has any relevance to the issue at hand. You still haven't bothered to answer any of the questions asked of you. What version are you on? What version did you try to flash?
Oh well, either way, I already said what you should do.
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You have a lot to say about absolutely nothing. I can't see how any of that has any relevance to the issue at hand. You still haven't bothered to answer any of the questions asked of you. What version are you on? What version did you try to flash?
Oh well, either way, I already said what you should do.
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Well just to clarify your response , I've never said I didn't know how to flash firmware. I just wanted updated info to see if that was needed or not. I've already said I'm on latest TWRP And latest att release 4.4.2 radio 1.16. Have not flashed firmware yet. I'm currently in the process of flashing developer edition nandroid backup then stock recovery. I'll get back to you on that
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jonathan413 said:
Well just to clarify your response , I've never said I didn't know how to flash firmware. I just wanted updated info to see if that was needed or not. I've already said I'm on latest TWRP And latest att release 4.4.2 radio 1.16. Have not flashed firmware yet. I'm currently in the process of flashing developer edition nandroid backup then stock recovery. I'll get back to you on that
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Not really necessary to restore the entire nandroid, you could have just flashed the newer firmware in RUU mode. The firmware is in the OTA Zip collection thread.
Well, unless you're going to go through all the OTA's and have it update that way.
4.4.2 is old...so if you tried a ROM like Viper 3.0 or ARHD 21.0(?) you'd definitely need the 3.x firmware(Android 4.4.4) to have it work properly. Been that way since 4.4.3 don't know why for sure. Developers of Viper it seems doesn't know either and no intention to investigate why it is so.
http://venomroms.com/firmware_443/
http://venomroms.com/viperonem8_3-0-0-requirements/
jonathan413 said:
Well just to clarify your response , I've never said I didn't know how to flash firmware. I just wanted updated info to see if that was needed or not. I've already said I'm on latest TWRP And latest att release 4.4.2 radio 1.16. Have not flashed firmware yet. I'm currently in the process of flashing developer edition nandroid backup then stock recovery. I'll get back to you on that
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If you want to get up to date in one quick step, their is a Developer Edition RUU for 3.x.1540.x
all you need is your CID set to BS_US002 and it will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/ruu-developer-edition-3-28-1540-5-t2918749
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Not really necessary to restore the entire nandroid, you could have just flashed the newer firmware in RUU mode. The firmware is in the OTA Zip collection thread.
Well, unless you're going to go through all the OTA's and have it update that way.
4.4.2 is old...so if you tried a ROM like Viper 3.0 or ARHD 21.0(?) you'd definitely need the 3.x firmware(Android 4.4.4) to have it work properly. Been that way since 4.4.3 don't know why for sure. Developers of Viper it seems doesn't know either and no intention to investigate why it is so.
http://venomroms.com/firmware_443/
http://venomroms.com/viperonem8_3-0-0-requirements/
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Yeah I know but I was going to eventually convert anyway which I did successfully so I'll try out some roms later on. Thanks for the info
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clsA said:
If you want to get up to date in one quick step, their is a Developer Edition RUU for 3.x.1540.x
all you need is your CID set to BS_US002 and it will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/ruu-developer-edition-3-28-1540-5-t2918749
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Yeah I just did it through nandroid and did a series of updates and I'm on 4.4.4 now. Thanks though maybe this will come in handy some day.
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Either will [email protected] BS_US001 or BS_US002 for Developer Edition, Mine came with BS_US001 and the update is for both Just for clarification as 2 someone starting the rumour of it being only this or that cid...from the firmware update for the latest 3.28.1540.5 So it can be either, there is NO difference.
modelid: 0P6B12000
modelid: 0P6B13000
cidnum: BS_US001
cidnum: BS_US002
cidnum: T-MOB010
mainver: 3.28.1540.5
btype:1
aareport:1
hbootpreupdate:12
clsA said:
If you want to get up to date in one quick step, their is a Developer Edition RUU for 3.x.1540.x
all you need is your CID set to BS_US002 and it will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/ruu-developer-edition-3-28-1540-5-t2918749
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
Either will [email protected] BS_US001 or BS_US002 for Developer Edition, Mine came with BS_US001 and the update is for both Just for clarification as 2 someone starting the rumour of it being only this or that cid...from the firmware update for the latest 3.28.1540.5 So it can be either, there is NO difference.
modelid: 0P6B12000
modelid: 0P6B13000
cidnum: BS_US001
cidnum: BS_US002
cidnum: T-MOB010
mainver: 3.28.1540.5
btype:1
aareport:1
hbootpreupdate:12
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Yeah I saw that online that BS_US002 was developer edition only and needed for OTA updates
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[Q] updating m9 verizon out of US?

Hi, i use m9 verizon out of the US. i can't even check if there is an update. it says "updating ony works in CMDA mode". I can use my phone , mobile internet 3g etc. i hate it and i want to know if i can flash rom and working normal, updating itself and no wrong sim card alert?
Do you suggest any rom? Or can i install just one EU rom? Thank you.
You shouldn't flash an international ROM on your Verizon M9 unless it includes support for Verizon.
As far as updates, they will be posted here when they come, so you will be able to stay up to date as long as you are S-Off.
Hi,
i'm newbie on android phone.
my device is unlocked 3.37.605.7
i'm living in indonesia so i can't update via OTA.
my question is if i use RUU from below post, is my device will be locked or still be unlocked?
i want to update it to nougat without root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73986400&postcount=493
many thanks for your answers.
themorin said:
Hi,
i'm newbie on android phone.
my device is unlocked 3.37.605.7
i'm living in indonesia so i can't update via OTA.
my question is if i use RUU from below post, is my device will be locked or still be unlocked?
i want to update it to nougat without root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73986400&postcount=493
many thanks for your answers.
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An RUU will not relock your device.
santod040 said:
An RUU will not relock your device.
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Thanks for fast answer!!
I read on post below that "you cant flash 4.x RUUs if your phone is currently using a 3.x (or any lower) firmware."
my device is 3.37.605.7 so in the other word i can't update it to 4.49.605.11 RUU in the post above?
i'm sorry if my question have obvious answer, but i want to make sure and not bricked my first android.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64299817&postcount=6
themorin said:
Thanks for fast answer!!
I read on post below that "you cant flash 4.x RUUs if your phone is currently using a 3.x (or any lower) firmware."
my device is 3.37.605.7 so in the other word i can't update it to 4.49.605.11 RUU in the post above?
i'm sorry if my question have obvious answer, but i want to make sure and not bricked my first android.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64299817&postcount=6
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The Nougat RUU I posted will work just fine...
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santod040 said:
The Nougat RUU I posted will work just fine...
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Thanks for your help, i just flash and everything work fine. Except i cannot using WiFi tethering "sim card is not verizon", how to solve this?
Thank you
prima_23 said:
Thanks for your help, i just flash and everything work fine. Except i cannot using WiFi tethering "sim card is not verizon", how to solve this?
Thank you
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Hi, you were on 3.37.605.7 stock?
I'm on 3.37.605.7 full stocl, and i want to know if this update is safe..
Thanks!
VladTepess said:
Hi, you were on 3.37.605.7 stock?
I'm on 3.37.605.7 full stocl, and i want to know if this update is safe..
Thanks!
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It's safe, or I wouldn't have posted it...
Doesn't matter what version you have now.
Edit:
You've already asked all about the RUU in my thread.
Not sure how we ended up here again.
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santod040 said:
It's safe, or I wouldn't have posted it...
Doesn't matter what version you have now.
Edit:
You've already asked all about the RUU in my thread.
Not sure how we ended up here again.
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Yeah, could be. But i'm new on this and i need to be sure before do this. I don't wanna brick my phone. Being S-ON and locked, i think that i'm safe.. But i need to know everything before do it.
thanks a lot!

check firmware version?

So I managed to flash a rooted developer edition rom on my m9 and when I tried to run ota updates, I got an error saying that it couldn't finish because my phone's software has been modified. After some searching around (and admiditantly some arguing), found out that it's because my firmware doesn't match my android version. I'm still running android 5.0.2 and I don't THINK I messed with the firmware. So how do I check the firmware version and find either a rom (preferably as close to stock as possible) or a ruu that will work for the software/firmware versions that I'm using?
Please do a "fastboot getvar all" and post here.
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With the phone in download or bootloader?
Donnie267 said:
With the phone in download or bootloader?
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Download
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Download
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There ya go
Download this RUU: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=96039337900114053
Rename it to 0PJA100.zip
Put it in root of your card(fat32 formatted).
Boot in download(make sure you have sufficient battery) and follow instructions.
P.S: First backup your data, this procedure will erase all your data.
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I thought ruu doesn't work from the sdcard
Donnie267 said:
I thought ruu doesn't work from the sdcard
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It works and it's the simplest way in my opinion.
Tell me if it worked or what problem you encounter.
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Oh. And I won't be able to get ota from AT&T because I'm on MetroPCS so I'll need a ruu for metro, tmo or developer
Donnie267 said:
Oh. And I won't be able to get ota from AT&T because I'm on MetroPCS so I'll need a ruu for metro, tmo or developer
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If you have S-OFF it's simple to convert, I'll show you a little tutorial.
If you don't have S-OFF it's impossible and you'll be stuck with this firmware if you won't get an AT&T sim.
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I don't have S-offor or the $25 for sunshine. Shouldn't there be a t-mobile, MetroPCS or developer rom or ruu that's compatible with the firmware I'm using?
I don't have S-offor or the $25 for sunshine. I used twrp to flash developer. Shouldn't there be a t-mobile, MetroPCS or developer rom or ruu that's compatible with the firmware I'm using?
Donnie267 said:
I don't have S-offor or the $25 for sunshine. Shouldn't there be a t-mobile, MetroPCS or developer rom or ruu that's compatible with the firmware I'm using?
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You can only flash AT&T because of CID, every carrier have different CID and because that the different RUU will give you error.
Only with S-OFF you can change CID and MID and flash any GSM RUU.
So, you're stuck with 1.32.502.9 firmware until you get an AT&T sim to update it or s-off it.
With this firmware you can only flash custom roms with Android version 5.x and some 6.0.x but just few 6.0.x and maybe will be unstable.
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Ah, okay. So basically, I have to go back to AT&T then use a series of ruu files to work my way to nougat then finally flash the custom rom?
Donnie267 said:
Ah, okay. So basically, I have to go back to AT&T then use a series of ruu files to work my way to nougat then finally flash the custom rom?
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Or you can just flash this RUU, then update it from settings, it's more simple.
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That's actually why I tried flashing a rom. AT&T won't let you get updates unless you're using their sim card for some ungodly reason.
Donnie267 said:
That's actually why I tried flashing a rom. AT&T won't let you get updates unless you're using their sim card for some ungodly reason.
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I understand what you tried but it's impossible to jump firmware to 2.xx.502.xx or more with RUU, this can be done only with OTA on S-ON phones.
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Is it possible to go from one ruu to the next until I get the phone to nougat though?
Donnie267 said:
Is it possible to go from one ruu to the next until I get the phone to nougat though?
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No, you cannot update it to 2.xx.502.xx or more with RUU, just OTA, Flippy explained you why in the other thread(different encryption between 1.... 2... 3... and 4... firmwares).
So the only way to update your firmware is to flash the RUU I give you(don't flash twrp, root,etc), get an AT&T sim and update it from settings until you reach nougat.
I don't explain it one more time... I think I explained the same thing in different ways 3-4 times....
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Excuse me. I was thinking/hoping software provided by HTC themselves would be able to upgrade the firmware along with the OS instead of forcing everyone to be stuck with the only option for software upgrades from a carrier that we don't even want/use. It only makes sense that if it can be done on samsung phones, which I've rooted and flashed several times, it could also be done on HTC. So it looks like the only way to get nougat is to suck AT&T's ****. Thanks.

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