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Hi All!
Soo... Its nearly Christmas an my wife has asked what id like
My immediate reply was a pair of video glasses
I automatically presumed I'd be able to use it with my SGSII (with the HDMI video out n all)
So off I went googl'ing the hell out of them.
I cant seem to find any "directly" compatible so I was just wondering if any one had any ideas on the concept?
I want to be able to use them with my phone and my PS3.
Has any one had first hand experiences with them?
It's a lot of money to invest in something I've never had a play with
Here are a few I've looked at >
http://www.vuzix.com
http://www.videoglasses.org.uk
http://www.zetronix.com/index.php?cPath=26&gclid=CMCT6baW4awCFaEntAodSCgIoQ
http://www.tech-in-mind.com/product01_06_en.html
I don't need the VR option (unless its free lol )
Obviously I'm trying to do this as cheap a possible (For around £250 or less)
and I'm not too fussed if the screen is around the 40-50 inch range (again wouldn't say no to the 80 incher )
Please any advice on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
If it were me, I'd get something decent for Christmas.
The displays you are looking at have resolutions of 640x480 max and will look rubbish as a virtual 80in screen. If you have an HDTV then you'll be disappointed if you put a PS3 through any video glasses IMO. The cheaper end of the range have 320x240 displays and will look even worse.
Not only will VGA or QVGA resolution look very pixelated on an (virtual) 80"-diagonal, but also consider that most footage will need to be downscaled in order to fit these low resolutions. If you downscale 1080p or 720p videos they will look acceptable, but if you downscale PAL footage (720*576) to VGA (640*480) you will get a quite blurry result.
Btw the PS3 can natively output VGA-resolution if it's in NTSC-mode (see http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/3_15/settings/videooutput.html), so it won't have that blurry-effect like downscaled PAL-footage, but it will still look pixelated.
Do get an idea of what to expect, just change your computer's resolution to 640*480 and go close to the screen.
inquisitor said:
Not only will VGA or QVGA resolution look very pixelated on an (virtual) 80"-diagonal, but also consider that most footage will need to be downscaled in order to fit these low resolutions. If you downscale 1080p or 720p videos they will look acceptable, but if you downscale PAL footage (720*576) to VGA (640*480) you will get a quite blurry result.
Btw the PS3 can natively output VGA-resolution if it's in NTSC-mode (see http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/3_15/settings/videooutput.html), so it won't have that blurry-effect like downscaled PAL-footage, but it will still look pixelated.
Do get an idea of what to expect, just change your computer's resolution to 640*480 and go close to the screen.
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Fair enough. I thought it was all relive to the actual screen size..
I had a friend that hadn't understood he needed to hook his PS3 up to his HD tv with a HDMI cable, The difference was astonishing. not what im after.
Thanks for your help guys. I hold off for now.
Title. Thinking of buying the phone but I was wondering why run 1080p at normal usage when they can do 1440p? Don't they the same aspect ratio? Does any of you think it's possible to sort of change the normal screen resolution to 1440p?
LeParkour012 said:
Title. Thinking of buying the phone but I was wondering why run 1080p at normal usage when they can do 1440p? Don't they the same aspect ratio? Does any of you think it's possible to sort of change the normal screen resolution to 1440p?
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My guess would be performance and it may be easier for the upscaler if it's a 2:1 ratio
The Nexus 6p has no problems running 1440p on a s810 snap dragon, bench mark tests beats the Sony Z5P consistently.
Mostly because it makes no difference in the user experience, but makes the SoC constantly process a lot more pixels which would contribute to the heating issues and shorten battery life.
This 4K thing is purely for brag, and Sony knows it. Wait until mobile VR grows bigger and there will be all kinds of resolution mods then, when it matters.
For now, even if you got short hands and the phone screen is ~20cm from your eyes, you cant tell the difference with a 20/20 vision.( tested )
Hello and happy new year 2016!
Well, meanwhile wait for my z3p next week, I would like to ask if some friend around here had already test the z5p in some VR headset in 4k resolution in some way.
If so, may be possible some comments about, in special if there some app that could be set in stereoscopic split view in 4k mode, so if posible play movies on VR headset taking advantage of high dpi screen for virtual cinema big screen.
I wonder if could be posible set the VR split screens, each one to 1080dpi, so it will make a really great VR resolution experience and wondefull use for the awesome 4k screen.
Thanks for further comments and best regards to all.
4k is not supported on Android for now, therefore no compatible 3rd party apps. It will however be supported in the the next Android update, Marshmallow. Let's wait and see what that brings us.
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Hello and happy new year 2016!
Well, meanwhile wait for my z3p next week, I would like to ask if some friend around here had already test the z5p in some VR headset in 4k resolution in some way.
If so, may be possible some comments about, in special if there some app that could be set in stereoscopic split view in 4k mode, so if posible play movies on VR headset taking advantage of high dpi screen for virtual cinema big screen.
I wonder if could be posible set the VR split screens, each one to 1080dpi, so it will make a really great VR resolution experience and wondefull use for the awesome 4k screen.
Thanks for further comments and best regards to all.
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I mainly use my Z5P to watch 3D SBS format movies using VRTube and Colorcross headset, the resolution is so much better compare to my LG G3's 2k screen. You wont even notice the pixels. btw X-Reality and Super-vivid mode also works using VRTube which in my opinion makes the images more crystal clear. I've post screen shots on a different thread somewhere here of it working i don't remember which thread.
Thanks for reply and great info, just got VRtune and would test with my DEFAIRY VR Headset, the app seems lots better than then others that I tested, but not already a long tests, since I receive my Headseet just few days before xmas, and had been somewhat busy...
Thanks again and best regards to all
KbaB.BroS said:
4k is not supported on Android for now, therefore no compatible 3rd party apps. It will however be supported in the the next Android update, Marshmallow. Let's wait and see what that brings us.
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That would be great... right now I dowloading the AICP 6.0 Marsmallow rom for my Nexus 10... wonder if it may continue settings that may get a clue about future support in Z5p....
Thanks and best regards.
xaser66 said:
That would be great... right now I dowloading the AICP 6.0 Marsmallow rom for my Nexus 10... wonder if it may continue settings that may get a clue about future support in Z5p....
Thanks and best regards.
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not yet a Z5p user but, the screen door effect should definitely gone by now, leaving only pure 1080p VR display. don't get me wrong, it's software wise 1080 but will be upscaled nonetheless to 2160 resulting slight bluriness (due to 1080p resolution) but more importantly, no screen door effect.
kiritoxda said:
I mainly use my Z5P to watch 3D SBS format movies using VRTube and Colorcross headset, the resolution is so much better compare to my LG G3's 2k screen. You wont even notice the pixels. btw X-Reality and Super-vivid mode also works using VRTube which in my opinion makes the images more crystal clear. I've post screen shots on a different thread somewhere here of it working i don't remember which thread.
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Do you have a source for 4K SBS? All I've been able to find have been 1080 SBS
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not yet a Z5p user but, the screen door effect should definitely gone by now, leaving only pure 1080p VR display. don't get me wrong, it's software wise 1080 but will be upscaled nonetheless to 2160 resulting slight bluriness (due to 1080p resolution) but more importantly, no screen door effect.
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Hi! And thanks for for take time to reply, well I do not know what is door effect (in video and vr stuff I am a really noob )... But I am mostly wonder about if with a root access to 4k resolution setting could be possible a VR app that may use 2 x 1080 frames for VR headset (or even at least 2 x 720 pixels frames due black surrounding spaces that seems needed by the proper VR eye lenses alignment) of the current generic VR and Google-Cardboard clones headsets uses... This wonder me because if with a standard 1080pixel phone screen the view is very nice, however the double screen frames for the lenses are really of low resolution,since with an 1080 pixels lcd screen of others phones, minus the black surrounding areas, the square frames that are set by the current VR apps shows somewhat pixelated views...
So If the double frame for a VR headset could be made on a Z5p even at 720pixels each frame, that would be great and at 1080 will be awesome view by far for sure...
Best regards to all.
I came across this headset:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ZEISS-VR-ON...=UTF8&qid=1454019315&sr=8-1&keywords=zeiss+z5
What do you guys think?
A more important question is, will we be able to use the Z5 Premium with Playstation VR?
jplempka said:
I came across this headset:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ZEISS-VR-ON...=UTF8&qid=1454019315&sr=8-1&keywords=zeiss+z5
What do you guys think?
A more important question is, will we be able to use the Z5 Premium with Playstation VR?
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Hello!
Well, I dont know in deep a lot about VR PlayStation but as far I may understand, VR-PS is about a new Sony propietary VR headset, that includes its own internal LCD and cpu and low latency hardware (thus, so, means expensive...), for play PS games.
The Zeiss headset appears to be an some version of optical adapter for use with phones, like others OpticalVR headsets that are kind ofvclines of original Google-CardBoard VR concept, so, I not sure but almost, this kind of VR headsets may not be compatible with VR-PlayStation, at least that Sony make an app for such task with a phone and a optical VRheadset, bur I dont know if such app exists at least as far I know by now.
Since above, is that I wonder if the such great 4k resolution of Z5P could use with an VR app, for a 1920x1080 frame for each eye operation, with an OpticalVR set.
That is I may comment in hope that may help with your question.
Best regards to all.
xaser66 said:
Hello and happy new year 2016!
Well, meanwhile wait for my z3p next week, I would like to ask if some friend around here had already test the z5p in some VR headset in 4k resolution in some way.
If so, may be possible some comments about, in special if there some app that could be set in stereoscopic split view in 4k mode, so if posible play movies on VR headset taking advantage of high dpi screen for virtual cinema big screen.
I wonder if could be posible set the VR split screens, each one to 1080dpi, so it will make a really great VR resolution experience and wondefull use for the awesome 4k screen.
Thanks for further comments and best regards to all.
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Hi xaser, I upgraded to this phone specifically for its potential for virtual reality. I was disappointed to learn that I need Marshmallow to unlock 4k in third party apps (I'm on EE and it hasnt been rolled out yet ) but I can tell you without hesitation that watching my 1080p movies in SBS format is quite a joy on this phone. SDE is very minimal compared to my previous 1080p display phone (Samsung galaxy S5). Can still notice the SDE but its definitely not distracting as on my S5. But I never viewed through a 1440p phone to make any comparison to that res.
But I have a question for others. How can one monitor what resolution a VR video player app is running at? Is there a 4k, 2k, 1080p test SBS patterns that one could use to compare when loaded in an SBS app?
This phone has real potential for VR, its a crying shame that this 4k display is not hyped for VR. Nearly every review I see, all say, its a waste because one cannot discern the difference with a 1440p display, none of them think of VR!
In terms of processing power, the phone will surely struggle to give smooth VR but I discovered a couple of apps that enable remote desktop to a PC where you can play your PC games, blu ray films, and even Oculus Rift games streamed to the phone and the motion sensor of the phone emulates the mouse on the PC! I am still yet to explore that feature as I am now waiting for a new VR headset I ordered as my old one is kinda rubbish for my new Z5 phone in terms of its phone holder design as this Z5 gets bloody hot quickly and so the suction pad mechanism of my headset is pretty bad for it. I have a solution though for cooling it and that is to use re-usable gel packs.
what VR headset works with z5p with bumper case?
TheyCallMeMrGlass said:
But I have a question for others. How can one monitor what resolution a VR video player app is running at? Is there a 4k, 2k, 1080p test SBS patterns that one could use to compare when loaded in an SBS app?
This phone has real potential for VR, its a crying shame that this 4k display is not hyped for VR. Nearly every review I see, all say, its a waste because one cannot discern the difference with a 1440p display, none of them think of VR!
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The Z5P runs in 4K always (it's a 4K display afterall) it's just the content, unless viewed in the Sony apps, is upscaled from 1080p. You can upgrade this to 1440p using ADB and this will allow other apps to make use of that res, but until you go Marshmallow then you won't get any apps that can use 4K - and I doubt services like NetFlix will write 4K compatibility in to their mobile app just for us Z5P users.
I used the ADB trick to run at 1440p and 2160p and I have to say all I noticed was increased battery drain and laggy performance as the GPU couldn't really keep up with pushing 4k res all the time as well as it can upscaling 1080p.
To each their own, however.
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what VR headset works with z5p with bumper case?
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I am using Riem III VR headset which houses it fine. Most VR headsets appear to accommodate large phones. I have now ordered a Fiit VR which looks to be a better headset overall. Riem III is a let down with its suction pad blocking vent holes and lack of focal adjustment (though, the reason there is no focal adjustment is because its one of the few headsetsets that can fit over your glasses). The problem with wearing glasses and VR at the same time is that it narrows the field of view. So as a glass wearer, I would prefer having them off and have a focal adjustment on the headset.
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The Z5P runs in 4K always (it's a 4K display afterall) it's just the content, unless viewed in the Sony apps, is upscaled from 1080p. You can upgrade this to 1440p using ADB and this will allow other apps to make use of that res, but until you go Marshmallow then you won't get any apps that can use 4K - and I doubt services like NetFlix will write 4K compatibility in to their mobile app just for us Z5P users.
I used the ADB trick to run at 1440p and 2160p and I have to say all I noticed was increased battery drain and laggy performance as the GPU couldn't really keep up with pushing 4k res all the time as well as it can upscaling 1080p.
To each their own, however.
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Although I appear to have joined years ago, which surprised me, lol, I am very new here, and I am afraid I dont know what is ADB, can you point me to where I can learn how to run that trick?
Even if the 4K cant be achieved content-wise, I think the upscaling still betters other displays in VR mode due to less SDE and that's at least a very big plus. 1440p might be a nice sweet spot especially for playing 1080p movies in VR mode.
I'd still like to know how I can determine what resolution a picture or video is being played at.
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Although I appear to have joined years ago, which surprised me, lol, I am very new here, and I am afraid I dont know what is ADB, can you point me to where I can learn how to run that trick?
Even if the 4K cant be achieved content-wise, I think the upscaling still betters other displays in VR mode due to less SDE and that's at least a very big plus. 1440p might be a nice sweet spot especially for playing 1080p movies in VR mode.
I'd still like to know how I can determine what resolution a picture or video is being played at.
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ADB is the 'Android Debug Bridge' which allows you to control your device from your PC including pushing apps, pulling files and other clever bits and pieces. It can be obtained as a small installation for PC by googling 'Minimal ADB'.
It runs on a command prompt interface, it will require you to open up developer settings on your phone and then enable 'USB Debugging' before it will work. If you don't know much about what you're doing then be quite careful as you can cause some issues if you're not. Google it and familiarise yourself with it - it's quite simple.
Once you've done that then have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/changing-resolution-default-to-2k-root-t3282319 it explains the process and how it all pieces together. Note it is technically an emulated resolution, rather than changing the whole device to operate in 4K, however due to the display resolution of the screen they are effectively one and the same thing.
Hopefully that helps.
Well in the end I never bother with ADP and just waited for the EE to roll out the Marshmallow upgrade which happily got pushed several days ago.
And wow, I have been enjoying watching my blu ray rips ever since. So using a VR Fiit headset (the best of its type that I have tried so far) with a 103 deg FOV, the CMOAR Virtual Cinema app and of course our Z5 Premium phone, you really can enjoy watching movies as a virtual cinematic experience with minimal SDE compared to lower resolution phones.
Now my next step is to purchase a bluetooth adapter for my Yamaha 7.1 AV system to see if its possible to immerse oneself in the virtual cinema whilst sound is fed to my living room AV/speakers.
TheyCallMeMrGlass said:
Well in the end I never bother with ADP and just waited for the EE to roll out the Marshmallow upgrade which happily got pushed several days ago.
And wow, I have been enjoying watching my blu ray rips ever since. So using a VR Fiit headset (the best of its type that I have tried so far) with a 103 deg FOV, the CMOAR Virtual Cinema app and of course our Z5 Premium phone, you really can enjoy watching movies as a virtual cinematic experience with minimal SDE compared to lower resolution phones.
Now my next step is to purchase a bluetooth adapter for my Yamaha 7.1 AV system to see if its possible to immerse oneself in the virtual cinema whilst sound is fed to my living room AV/speakers.
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Would you say the VR Fiit is a definite improvement over the Riem III? Don't want to spend money unless I'm getting something really much better. Thanks.
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Would you say the VR Fiit is a definite improvement over the Riem III? Don't want to spend money unless I'm getting something really much better. Thanks.
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Personally, a definite improvement. But perhaps read my detailed reviews on Amazon to gauge whether my prioritised needs match yours:
VR Fiit: https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RJDS38AFAYXQ1/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
Hiem III: https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2DPYONOOAGF6A/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
I've got FreeFly VR headset and Xperia Z5 Premium. Previously had Xperia Z1.
Difference is huge, much bigger than I expected, and although apps are still rendering in 1080p resolution, there's no screen door effect anymore, and this really makes a difference. Everything just looks cleaner. Not sharper, but cleaner. For me this means waiting for second generation of VIVE/Oculus/PlayStationVR, which will have 4K screens instead of 2K at max.
Considering this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xiaozhai-G...ie=UTF8&qid=1463066646&sr=8-1&keywords=bobovr
Though there's one which is almost identical:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Virtoba-Gl...ie=UTF8&qid=1463067152&sr=8-2&keywords=bobovr
Which one would you guys go for?
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I’ve been struggling to get a clear answer from Sony official support team on why when I run a simple screen test by three different applications I get 1920 x 1080 (~403 dpi) or less on my E6883. They claim E6883 screen has 2160 x 3840 pixels (~806 ppi pixel density) resolution. That’s what I though we get on Xperia Z5 Premium. 4K was one of the main reasons I bought this phone. In reality, as the actual screen resolution, I get regular HD.
Here is what they (Sony) say:
“Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
The information you requested is presented in the link Agent Argelia provided:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10...our-4k-display-technology-questions-answered/
Now to talk a little about your question, the resolution on the screen of the Xperia Z5 premium is 2160 x 3840 pixels (~806 ppi pixel density) meaning that this is what the screen is capable of presenting.
Now as explained in the link above, the full 4k resolution is only used for certain content and applications that are able to use this resolution, This means that in normal operation the phone displays content in HD1080 (Home screen, certain images, settings screens, games, screen captures and certain apps).
Now if you open and app that renders in 4k the app will make full use of the native resolution and you will be presented with full 4K images: Certain video streaming apps, YouTube, Streaming video, VR videos and full 4k videos downloaded from sites or with third party apps that are able to download full 4k video from YouTube.
I myself use a third party app called Tubemate that allows me to download 4k video and then play it with the album app in the phone. (4K videos will have a white "4k" mark in the album preview thumbnail. So far the YouTube app still does not have the capability to show 4K video) Although you can view 4k video from YouTube if you open the website in chrome and then in settings (in chrome) you can request for the Desktop version of the YouTube page. (The resolution settings will then let you choose 4k)”.
I could understand all the playback explanations. However, I am talking about displaying 4K on the screen that is ONLY capable to render in 1920 x 1080 (~403 dpi) according to the testing apps I tried. How is it possible? I start thinking real 4K resolution in terms of DISPLAYING (not recording) is a faked advertisement. I wonder if someone has come across the same issue. Would be glad to hear your thoughts!
kvasok7 said:
I’ve been struggling to get a clear answer from Sony official support team on why when I run a simple screen test by three different applications I get 1920 x 1080 (~403 dpi) or less on my E6883. They claim E6883 screen has 2160 x 3840 pixels (~806 ppi pixel density) resolution. That’s what I though we get on Xperia Z5 Premium. 4K was one of the main reasons I bought this phone. In reality, as the actual screen resolution, I get regular HD.
Here is what they (Sony) say:
“Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia™ Online Support.
The information you requested is presented in the link Agent Argelia provided:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10...our-4k-display-technology-questions-answered/
Now to talk a little about your question, the resolution on the screen of the Xperia Z5 premium is 2160 x 3840 pixels (~806 ppi pixel density) meaning that this is what the screen is capable of presenting.
Now as explained in the link above, the full 4k resolution is only used for certain content and applications that are able to use this resolution, This means that in normal operation the phone displays content in HD1080 (Home screen, certain images, settings screens, games, screen captures and certain apps).
Now if you open and app that renders in 4k the app will make full use of the native resolution and you will be presented with full 4K images: Certain video streaming apps, YouTube, Streaming video, VR videos and full 4k videos downloaded from sites or with third party apps that are able to download full 4k video from YouTube.
I myself use a third party app called Tubemate that allows me to download 4k video and then play it with the album app in the phone. (4K videos will have a white "4k" mark in the album preview thumbnail. So far the YouTube app still does not have the capability to show 4K video) Although you can view 4k video from YouTube if you open the website in chrome and then in settings (in chrome) you can request for the Desktop version of the YouTube page. (The resolution settings will then let you choose 4k)”.
I could understand all the playback explanations. However, I am talking about displaying 4K on the screen that is ONLY capable to render in 1920 x 1080 (~403 dpi) according to the testing apps I tried. How is it possible? I start thinking real 4K resolution in terms of DISPLAYING (not recording) is a faked advertisement. I wonder if someone has come across the same issue. Would be glad to hear your thoughts!
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this is just like how Apple do their Retina screen. They upscale the software resolution into the real 4k hardware resolution. so yes it is a real 4k screen, but only rendered 2k most of the time. do you think it's such a waste? maybe, but i'd like to see it as a feature rather than a standard. when you have that 4k video, such feature will be usable. Same as the CPU, you only get most of the core working when you need it on gaming.
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...I am talking about displaying 4K on the screen that is ONLY capable to render in 1920 x 1080 (~403 dpi)...
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To put it bluntly, you are wrong in your assessment. It is Lollipop that can't display 4K. The Z5P can and does display 4K content within apps. I could type screeds explaining this in detail, but instead, just watch this video. The display and its 4K aspect is covered from 8 minutes and 15 seconds..
nobnut said:
To put it bluntly, you are wrong in your assessment. It is Lollipop that can't display 4K. The Z5P can and does display 4K content within apps. I could type screeds explaining this in detail, but instead, just watch this video. The display and its 4K aspect is covered from 8 minutes and 15 seconds..
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Great video! A very detailed breakdown! Wish I watched it earlier! TY
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The App "AIDA64" shows a resolution of 2160x3840 (~ 801ppi)
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The App "AIDA64" shows a resolution of 2160x3840 (~ 801ppi)
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But the Dev had to 'fix' the screen resolution properties for the Z5P in the app (check the most recent changelog). It wasn't being detected via the usual checks. This is what causes some people concern or confusion when they investigate.
If you want, I can make you an app that detects 8K, or 16K, or "insert your desired resolution here" K.
All folk need to remember is that the Z5P does have a 4K resolution, regardless of what apps say
nobnut said:
But the Dev had to 'fix' the screen resolution properties for the Z5P in the app (check the most recent changelog). It wasn't being detected via the usual checks. This is what causes some people concern or confusion when they investigate.
If you want, I can make you an app that detects 8K, or 16K, or "insert your desired resolution here" K.
All folk need to remember is that the Z5P does have a 4K resolution, regardless of what apps say
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Believe it or not, after watching the video you posted earlier, by Erica Griffin, I had a second thought that left me with a bit of a residual doubt. In that video, the only "evidence" of actual screen testing she said was ADB readings when resolution switched from HD to 4K. However, she never SHOWED those reading. Given that her videos are quite professionally shot, I don't see why not show the actual ADB readings to us. Technically we're only left with her words. I guess we have to take them
I'm actually more concerned with the physical screen; does it really have enough pixels to be considered 4K capable of DISPLAYING a 4K content? Still in doubt...
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Believe it or not, after watching the video you posted earlier, by Erica Griffin, I had a second thought that left me with a bit of a residual doubt. In that video, the only "evidence" of actual screen testing she said was ADB readings when resolution switched from HD to 4K. However, she never SHOWED those reading. Given that her videos are quite professionally shot, I don't see why not show the actual ADB readings to us. Technically we're only left with her words. I guess we have to take them
I'm actually more concerned with the physical screen; does it really have enough pixels to be considered 4K capable of DISPLAYING a 4K content? Still in doubt...
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When in doubt, use microscope or something and count.
4k would be 4 times the amount of pixels compared to a 1080p screen. Dividing the pixels on Z5p with a 1080p screen should give us 4, (3840x2160)/(1920x1080)=4
kvasok7 said:
Believe it or not, after watching the video you posted earlier, by Erica Griffin, I had a second thought that left me with a bit of a residual doubt. In that video, the only "evidence" of actual screen testing she said was ADB readings when resolution switched from HD to 4K. However, she never SHOWED those reading. Given that her videos are quite professionally shot, I don't see why not show the actual ADB readings to us. Technically we're only left with her words. I guess we have to take them
I'm actually more concerned with the physical screen; does it really have enough pixels to be considered 4K capable of DISPLAYING a 4K content? Still in doubt...
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I have a much better idea.
Sell your Z5P.
Or learn how to debug and see the wood for the trees.
I'm done trying to reason with you. You're irrational, facts are clearly lost on you.
nobnut said:
I have a much better idea.
Sell your Z5P.
Or learn how to debug and see the wood for the trees.
I'm done trying to reason with you. You're irrational, facts are clearly lost on you.
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I’ll tell you what, PAL. I got an idea too! Get off this panel with this kinda attitude and don’t come back until you learn the definition of basic “manners”. When you provided some valuable info the first time, we thanked you, which I definitely feel the opposite now.
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Believe it or not, after watching the video you posted earlier, by Erica Griffin, I had a second thought that left me with a bit of a residual doubt. In that video, the only "evidence" of actual screen testing she said was ADB readings when resolution switched from HD to 4K. However, she never SHOWED those reading. Given that her videos are quite professionally shot, I don't see why not show the actual ADB readings to us. Technically we're only left with her words. I guess we have to take them
I'm actually more concerned with the physical screen; does it really have enough pixels to be considered 4K capable of DISPLAYING a 4K content? Still in doubt...
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It better be, otherwise how does one explain this awful battery life with over 3400mah!! Lol don't doubt it, it's working!
samsmalls said:
It better be, otherwise how does one explain this awful battery life with over 3400mah!! Lol don't doubt it, it's working!
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You're right! I too noticed heavy battery consumption while playing 4K files. TY
kvasok7 said:
Believe it or not, after watching the video you posted earlier, by Erica Griffin, I had a second thought that left me with a bit of a residual doubt. In that video, the only "evidence" of actual screen testing she said was ADB readings when resolution switched from HD to 4K. However, she never SHOWED those reading. Given that her videos are quite professionally shot, I don't see why not show the actual ADB readings to us. Technically we're only left with her words. I guess we have to take them
I'm actually more concerned with the physical screen; does it really have enough pixels to be considered 4K capable of DISPLAYING a 4K content? Still in doubt...
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One could do their own adb and get the readings themselves if you question someones findings. Notice no one has done their own or let alone debunk what she has said. Even MKBHD said in some apps to you see the switch happen. My guess is some apps based on resolution you will see no change at all because the content itself isn't 4K.
Here's some other evidence that the screen is 4K. There's a lot more out there a simple search could find.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium_4k_display_under_our_microscope-blog-13887.php
Sorry for responding to this thread but let's let it die right now. Yes it has a 4K display.
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It seems now the screenshots are in 4K Resolution
Question: Why can't the pixel 6 pro shoot in 5-6k? It can shoot 12.53MP and 4k is only 8.3 MP.
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Probably due to the pixel-binning, which results in a quarter (IIRC) of the maximum resolution of the camera (~48-50 MegaPixel).
Well my question is why cant we hit 5k? 6K should be 16.6MP.. Pixel 6Pro is 12.53 so that should be a bit over 5K (5k is around 12.45MP)
Ok we talking about video capturing right?
superman25 said:
Ok we talking about video capturing right?
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Yes.
The phone is theoretically capable of recording 5K. I would love to see a camera mod to do it somehow.
Doug8796 said:
The phone is theoretically capable of recording 5K. I would love to see a camera mod to do it somehow.
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Yea theoretically is capable even more sensor is not 12mpx its really 50mpx and after processing came 12mpx photos even from main camera sensor but......its about resolution/fps/ bitrate ...and all depends of cooling system and capabilities of processing of chip in phone and how wee know cooling is not what is good on pixel 6 pro
I'd love to know if any dev's could chime in.. afaik timelapse is definitely possible oat 5k.
this is likely because nearly no display that displays 5K, it doesn't make much sense to support a format that is barely used
DespairFactor said:
this is likely because nearly no display that displays 5K, it doesn't make much sense to support a format that is barely used
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Well I'd love to get more quality out of my video. Apple makes a 5k display, and for editing purposes 5k would be nice . I like to get some shots of nature sometimes. I just wanted to know if it was possible.
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I'd love to know if any dev's could chime in.. afaik timelapse is definitely possible oat 5k.
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Yea timelapse is definetly capable of much higher resolutions ....and its good question becouse for now we know in future will only produce 8k tvs and 4k minimum monitors .....i think phone is capable of 1080p 480p slow mo why they dont use this who knows
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this is likely because nearly no display that displays 5K, it doesn't make much sense to support a format that is barely used
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That's not truth pixel count and quality was always much higher then actual displays like before decade was 16 and higher pxl Fotos and no digital monitors or tvs to show....some people have same argumenst s like you ...same with 1080p when come some people still telling wee dont needed lots of people looking on videos on tvs and most of them have only Hd tv so we dont needed right now ...what? I making memories and those memories i would like to have in best possible (reasonable ) quality what i can make with good format for future .........for example imy first tv vas plasma only 720p (in real was 768p ) but doesn't matter important is i was looking on 1080p movies and making 1080p videos l... And they look much more vetter because if you're looking on content like 1080p on 720p tvs you actually getting better quality and better looking image because its working like antialiasing or super resolution on AMD cards or whatever other metod they named and this metod ....its used in videogames for years for better image quality and its much more visible on video(moving picture ) then on just stable frame but its still visible and its make sence to only some quality like its doasant make sense looking on 8k on 1080p tv but its make sense watching on 4k picture on 1440p monitor or watching 1440p video on 1080p tv .....so 5k video on even 4k tv or monitor still make sense.
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That's not truth pixel count and quality was always much higher then actual displays like before decade was 16 and higher pxl Fotos and no digital monitors or tvs to show....some people have same argumenst s like you ...same with 1080p when come some people still telling wee dont needed lots of people looking on videos on tvs and most of them have only Hd tv so we dont needed right now ...what? I making memories and those memories i would like to have in best possible (reasonable ) quality what i can make with good format for future .........for example imy first tv vas plasma only 720p (in real was 768p ) but doesn't matter important is i was looking on 1080p movies and making 1080p videos l... And they look much more vetter because if you're looking on content like 1080p on 720p tvs you actually getting better quality and better looking image because its working like antialiasing or super resolution on AMD cards or whatever other metod they named and this metod ....its used in videogames for years for better image quality and its much more visible on video(moving picture ) then on just stable frame but its still visible and its make sence to only some quality like its doasant make sense looking on 8k on 1080p tv but its make sense watching on 4k picture on 1440p monitor or watching 1440p video on 1080p tv .....so 5k video on even 4k tv or monitor still make sense.
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Exactly. I have been recording 4k video since Note 5 I believe.
Look up Motion Cam on GitHub. It allows you to shoot RAW files (stored in the DNG format) at the cameras full resolution.
You'll probably be limited in the frame rate and length you can record and you'll need something like Davinci Resolve, but I've messed with it and gotten good results.
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Look up Motion Cam on GitHub. It allows you to shoot RAW files (stored in the DNG format) at the cameras full resolution.
You'll probably be limited in the frame rate and length you can record and you'll need something like Davinci Resolve, but I've messed with it and gotten good results.
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holy thanks its worth to try .... for me video its ok for now but its really impresive how good is camrea in night mode