slow listing files from explorer in pc - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

When I connect my note4 to the pc with USB for copying some photos from DCIM in external SD, I get a very slow speed to list all files in a folder in explorer.
For example it lasts more than 50'' to display the list of 892 files.
I have no problem in copying them instead.
The SD is capable of 17MB/s, so I think it's not the problem.
Which speed do you have in listing folder's files?
Thank you

franketto10 said:
When I connect my note4 to the pc with USB for copying some photos from DCIM in external SD, I get a very slow speed to list all files in a folder in explorer.
For example it lasts more than 50'' to display the list of 892 files.
I have no problem in copying them instead.
The SD is capable of 17MB/s, so I think it's not the problem.
Which speed do you have in listing folder's files?
Thank you
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First, what does 50" mean?
In the USA, we use " after a number to signify inches, and ' to signify feet. So 5' 10" is 5 feet and 10 inches.
Second, MTP (Mass Transfer Protocol) is what the phone uses when connected to a computer via USB, and once connected, it scans and displays every folder one at a time. So, yes, it is slow. Mine takes a while too, and the more folders and files you have, the slower it goes.
You can speed it up a little bit by changing the view on the computer so that it doesn't display folder previews (when you get small pics on the folder icon so that you can get an idea of what is inside) or thumbnails. Other than that, you can't do anything about it.
Man, I miss Gingerbread when Android still gave you the option between MTP or UMS (USB Mass Storage). UMS acted like an actual harddrive and was super fast. Then Android forced everyone to use MTP for some stupid reason.
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spexwood said:
First, what does 50" mean?
In the USA, we use " after a number to signify inches, and ' to signify feet. So 5' 10" is 5 feet and 10 inches.
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I'm from Europe and yes, in USA it means inches...
But It can mean (not strictly) also seconds: 50 seconds.
50' = 50 minutes, while 50'' = 50 seconds (exactly minute=minute prime, second=minute second)
They are a VERY LONG time just to access one single file to copy...!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_%28symbol%29
The double prime (″) represents inches (in), arcseconds (as), and seconds (s).
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You can speed it up a little bit by changing the view on the computer so that it doesn't display folder previews (when you get small pics on the folder icon so that you can get an idea of what is inside) or thumbnails. Other than that, you can't do anything about it.
Man, I miss Gingerbread when Android still gave you the option between MTP or UMS (USB Mass Storage). UMS acted like an actual harddrive and was super fast. Then Android forced everyone to use MTP for some stupid reason.
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THIS ^ !
Very sadly... infact I seem to remember not having this issue with my Note2...
Could UMS still be possible with some third party hack/root thing?

franketto10 said:
I'm from Europe and yes, in USA it means inches...
But It can mean (not strictly) also seconds: 50 seconds.
50' = 50 minutes, while 50'' = 50 seconds (exactly minute=minute prime, second=minute second)
They are a VERY LONG time just to access one single file to copy...!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_(symbol)
THIS ^ !
Very sadly... infact I seem to remember not having this issue with my Note2...
Could UMS still be possible with some third party hack/root thing?
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UMS is no longer possible. I've tried.
Even with root, it doesn't seem to work. (Root was on my old phone).
And thanks for the info. I think I remember something about the " and ' meaning time when I was in my college physics classes. I haven't encountered it since though.
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[Q] Only limited USB mass storage support?

According to engadget there is only a limited USB mass storage support (only media / picture transfer protocols are available).
Can some confirm this and check if full USB mass storage is available when USB debugging is turned on?
exore said:
According to engadget there is only a limited USB mass storage support (only media / picture transfer protocols are available).
Can some confirm this and check if full USB mass storage is available when USB debugging is turned on?
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Mass media is there, just select the "Picture transfer". Just named it less-than-ideal
Thyrus said:
Mass media is there, just select the "Picture transfer". Just named it less-than-ideal
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Can we still access anything from it then using a file manager like I can only the SGS2?
you will not see/feel the difference. Don't worry.
Here is my question, considering the lack of SD card on this thing, can I put my movies on an external SD card (or even a hdd, but whod want to tote one around?!) and then plug a reader into this thing using a USB OTG cable and then watch them on the phone? Just a thought. I need more storage than 32 GB... I've got 16GB of music alone...
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jameslfc5 said:
Can we still access anything from it then using a file manager like I can only the SGS2?
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Putting the USB connection in this mode using the notification drawer makes it go back to acting like normal:
http://i44.tinypic.com/154xeth.png
Here is more info regarding USB mass storage. it does not support UMS (because the phone does not have a SD slot) but support MTS.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm kinda curious how we are meant to transfer files that are not the general media files. The only thing that I really am thinking of is transferring/synchronising my ROM backups from ROM manager (when I root the Nexus I have yet to recieve).
Any ideas?
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Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I'm kinda curious how we are meant to transfer files that are not the general media files. The only thing that I really am thinking of is transferring/synchronising my ROM backups from ROM manager (when I root the Nexus I have yet to recieve).
Any ideas?
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The PTP option in the image I linked above acts like the file transfer mode you're after.
Has already been answered. PTP mode instead of MTP.
I guess I'm not understanding something because I thought PTP was for photos (originally used by cameras) and not for other filetypes.
So PTP will just transfer files as a UMS into the fake /sdcard directory (reading the interview)?
Yeeeeeeeesssssss. We told you no need to re-ask. answer will stay the same.
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Cleargrey said:
I guess I'm not understanding something because I thought PTP was for photos (originally used by cameras) and not for other filetypes.
So PTP will just transfer files as a UMS into the fake /sdcard directory (reading the interview)?
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Sorry sorry sorry. Thanks for clearing that up. I will proceed to the dunce corner for 15mins!
Even in PTP mode mine still behaves like a media device rather than a storage device. I don't get a proper file copy dialogue and it still warns me that I might not be able to play files on my device as I copy them which I think will get VERY annoying over time. The only difference I can see in PTP mode is that it looks like a camera in 'Computer' rather than an MP3 player.
So can I copy for example .apk files to my phone?
I think it is a very interesting question. I see that you have written in some comments, that if you enable the PTP mode, you can copy files from computer to the Nexus. Can you copy everything, and not only pictures, videos, or songs? Can we copy for example .apk files too? Or it isn't allowed?
HUNZwiebel said:
I think it is a very interesting question. I see that you have written in some comments, that if you enable the PTP mode, you can copy files from computer to the Nexus. Can you copy everything, and not only pictures, videos, or songs? Can we copy for example .apk files too? Or it isn't allowed?
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you can copy anything to it, but it isn't treated as a drive, for example when copying *.mkv's to it a warning comes up stating that the device might not be able to play it and you have to press yes to continue. Copy dialogues are also dumbed down and don't show as accurate progress.
Thanks!
Tung_meister said:
you can copy anything to it, but it isn't treated as a drive, for example when copying *.mkv's to it a warning comes up stating that the device might not be able to play it and you have to press yes to continue. Copy dialogues are also dumbed down and don't show as accurate progress.
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So basically every time you copy non media files, that warning msg will pop up and you have to press yes every time? That could be annoying..
CoriolisSTORM said:
Here is my question, considering the lack of SD card on this thing, can I put my movies on an external SD card (or even a hdd, but whod want to tote one around?!) and then plug a reader into this thing using a USB OTG cable and then watch them on the phone? Just a thought. I need more storage than 32 GB... I've got 16GB of music alone...
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Do you really listen to all 16GB's worth of music that you have every day?
Seriously people. You don't need all of your music library on your phone. Keep the songs you like and listen to the most, and you can always stream any oddballs from Google Music or Amazon MP3 via the data you pay for or wifi.
Just my 2 cents

MTP is a f**king JOKE...

Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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Copying a files to/from my Galaxy Nexus takes no time at all. Much faster file transfer than on my previous phone and USB drive. Have you tried removing the driver and installing the naked samsung drivers?
DeaconBoogie said:
Why did they remove drive letter access and cripple the phone with this MTP crap?
It took me 30 seconds to copy my pictures from my Droid Incredible via drive letter, and now it's taking upwards of 20 minutes to copy them over to the Nexus.
This is completely absurd...
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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And yet I'm having the exact opposite experience; on both a desktop PC and MacBook Pro with Android File Transfer, the performance of the Galaxy Nexus' filesystem has been miles ahead of the 8GB Class 10 MicroSD card I had in my previous device.
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I can't get the android file transfer to work on my mac. I download the dmg file and drag to applications, but it stil doesn't read my device. Am I doing something wrong? Can you shd some light for me?
And here comes the flood of "im not happy" threads.
You should have known it was MTP before you purchased it. Not trying to start an e-flame but just sayin'.
My connection always messes up, all my music got deleted last night. I'm having trouble copying music over. I'm ditching the stock ROM asap, hopefully one of the custom ROMs has mass storage.
I have to agree, I've hated MTP since the WinXP days when I first hooked up a camera directly. Had tons of corrupted files during transfers so I switched to taking out the memory cards and accessing them with USB readers.
Even now with the nexus I have trouble with files not even showing up properly in explorer but are clearly there when I use a file manager on the phone itself.
I copied a 500mb film from my pc to my phone in no-time. Must be your pc that causes the problem.
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I'm not sure why everybody needs to install stuff. I plugged the phone into my MBP and it popped up the contents. Plugged it into my W7 gaming machine and it popped up the contents.
Transfer times were the same, or faster, as they are on my Galaxy S II and Rezound.
Then again, unless it's more than 3-5 files I just use WiFi File Explorer. Fantastic way to transfer files to/from. Definitely worth the $.99 for the full version (demo only allows downloading *from* phone, not uploading to).
It's a trade-off. This way we can use the entire storage space. Just one big partition where all your apps and app data go. No more "internal storage" vs "external storage."
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
sblantipodi said:
Mtp is very slow and makes windows crash.
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Maybe on your PC.
Everything works fine here with MTP, even better than Mass Storage before...
I love whatever they did. On my Thunderbolt, it would take a long time to copy files, but with the GN, it's as fast as anything! Not to mention I don't have to screw with turning on the phone, turning on USB, doing my work, turning the phone on, turning off USB, etc.
It's always on, available, and awesome!
I find that I have a lot better luck with my windows 7 machine than I do with my Vista machine.
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I'm having better luck with the good 'ol console.
adb push has been outperforming MTP for me.
So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
Not on my PC it doesn't.
dspcap said:
So does MTP mean there's nothing to "eject" and you just pull the plug out of the phone?
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Yes there's no "eject" at all, because the system isn't actually mounted like it is in USB mass storage. Meaning you can still interact with the files on your phone when you're transferring to/from the phone.
I just transferred a 5.00GB mkv file in 16 minutes. That's roughly 5.2MB/sec. *Shrug*.
I'd prefer USB Mass Storage...
Anyone else notice that the pc's volume goes down when the device is unplugged?
I have Pandora playing on Win7 and unplugging the phone causes the volume for Pandora to drop. This is noticeable in the Volume Mixer.

We Need Custom ROMs with Mass Storage Mode Resurrected

I am so sick of MTP instead of Mass Storage Mode. I run Linux Mint and it's simply painful to try to get MTP working properly like Mass Storage Mode did in GB. Please, ROM devs, answer my prayers.
when you can add a sd card to the phone, you will have your mass storage.
I realize people don't like change, and want to stick with UMS, but you would have to pretty much crush the awesome single partition storage of the GN to get UMS...
Just dont understand why most people are aways want SOME MORE STOREGE, how many stuff you gonna put in your device? A thousand songs or pics?
GoZhU said:
Just dont understand why most people are aways want SOME MORE STOREGE, how many stuff you gonna put in your device? A thousand songs or pics?
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With UMS enabled, they'd theoretically have lower storage than sticking with MTP. There would have to be at least 2 partitions that would mean files couldn't span across them.
I use wifi file explorer pro. Real easy and just as effective as having mass storage. Was bummed as far as me not being able to connect and drag/drop but when i found this app its just as good.
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I can't for the life of me understand this complaint. I have no issues using MTP either in Linux or Win7. Do partition the space up would only bring about all the issues with inadequate space the Nexus One encountered.
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I don't know if it's a MTP thing, but I'm having a hell of a time copying .mkv files to the phone. I can FTP to my Thinkpad Slate at 3MB/s via wifi, the GNex capps out at 400KB/s. I've tried to connect the phone via USB to my desktop and just drag and drop and the progress bar doesn't even move. This is driving me insane.
I'm using the latest GummyNex 0.6.6.
If I recall correctly, when I was using Android Revolution 2.1.2, it was copying at 2MB/s via wifi FTP. I guess I need to look into this.
mallinj said:
I am so sick of MTP instead of Mass Storage Mode. I run Linux Mint and it's simply painful to try to get MTP working properly like Mass Storage Mode did in GB. Please, ROM devs, answer my prayers.
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Tried adbfs?
Looks like it solves your needs without introducing the troubles of mass storage mode.
I am using SAMBA...
airdroid also works well (ubuntu 10.04 and 11.10 on different machines, also better than mtp on vista for me)
it's been 8 hours and my music is still copying to my phone. MTP is completely unacceptable. it's already told me i had to skip like 30 songs before i hit "skip this message" 2 hours ago. i'm copying ~25 GB of music over and half of that is .ogg which is not natively recognized by MTP. I could have copied the 25GB onto my thunderbolt 10 times over already. I dont care what the reasoning, requirement, or intent was to remove mass storage, but it was not work it. watching my files copy at like 400 k/s to a phone plugged in with a USB 2.0 cable makes me want to return the phone.
somnambulator said:
it's been 8 hours and my music is still copying to my phone. MTP is completely unacceptable. it's already told me i had to skip like 30 songs before i hit "skip this message" 2 hours ago. i'm copying ~25 GB of music over and half of that is .ogg which is not natively recognized by MTP. I could have copied the 25GB onto my thunderbolt 10 times over already. I dont care what the reasoning, requirement, or intent was to remove mass storage, but it was not work it. watching my files copy at like 400 k/s to a phone plugged in with a USB 2.0 cable makes me want to return the phone.
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Really? I use windows media player to sync my music and it flies. Way faster than my nexus one did. It takes about 1-3 seconds per track.
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Drag and drop the files onto the folder icon. Don't open the folder itself and then copy into it.
My problem with MTP is compatibility. Hardly anything recognizes MTP and knows what to do with it besides my PC. Things I used to connect to via USB to transfer files or backup while on the go just don't work with the nexus. So instead of having an all around portable storage device in my phone I now have to carry other devices to perform those tasks, might not sound like a big deal but its just nicer being able to have that ability in one device. MTP may be great for some but not for everyone.
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MTP may be great for some but not for everyone.
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Agreed - my primary OS is linux, I can make mtp work kinda but it's poor and slow.
However enabling UMS would require repartitioning the GN and afaik no one's done it or said they plan on doing it.
Most people find wireless transfer much more satisfactory for this phone - I've only used airdroid but others have set up their own wireless ftp server. There are probably other apps that do it...
josteink said:
Tried adbfs?
Looks like it solves your needs without introducing the troubles of mass storage mode.
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is it an app on the phone or computer (windows/linux)?
thanks

What is the MTP/PTP connection like?

I've read about this on the Galaxy Nexus but I'm not sure how it works. Is it like how my mom's Kodak point and shoot camera works, where it shows up as a device instead of a drive? Also where you can't show stuff like "size, date created, etc"?
It shows up like a camera, kinda. You can still get a "details" view of the files though in an explorer window (or with AFT on OSX).
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
It sucks a$$..just know that..I hate it its glitchy n slower than usb
mmmajor said:
It sucks a$$..just know that..I hate it its glitchy n slower than usb
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what kind of slow are we looking at? i'm currently used to 2.5MB/s transfer speeds with my "class 4" MicroSD card on my Epic Touch 4G.
tracerit said:
what kind of slow are we looking at? i'm currently used to 2.5MB/s transfer speeds with my "class 4" MicroSD card on my Epic Touch 4G.
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The transfer speed is the same... it's just USB2.0 speed. The tool/protocol in tandem with explorer can be kinda slow to respond though.
Using AFT on OSX, I've had no issues with speed. Its often even faster than UMS because there's no mount/unmount time.
My biggest gripe with AFT is that it crashes the USB stack on my MacBook Air, then the keyboard and trackpad stop working.
Anybody else have a similar issue?
WarbyParker said:
My biggest gripe with AFT is that it crashes the USB stack on my MacBook Air, then the keyboard and trackpad stop working.
Anybody else have a similar issue?
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Never happened to me before.
martonikaj said:
Never happened to me before.
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Yeah that doesn't happen to me either
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AFT freezes every time I try to use it. I'm using Airdroid now and it works really good.
Ngo93 said:
AFT freezes every time I try to use it. I'm using Airdroid now and it works really good.
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Its definitely finnicky. I do my best to unlock the device, plug in, transfer, and unplug. Get it done and get out!
My experience is it works great with Windows, but not in Ubuntu or Linux Mint & since I use Linux I don't like it. I use wifi explorer pro to transfer files.
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iLeopard said:
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
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I don't like it. I'm on Windows so it works naively. On my Galaxy S II you could just use a widget called Multi-Mount that allowed you to do the same thing, except they'd show up as normal drives (I say they because if you use the microSD slot in the S2, you get two drives, internal and microSD), not an MTP connection.
That's not the reason for using MTP though. MTP is being used because all of the device's memory is pretty much one one partition and anything beyond that is symlinked. So no more 2GB of app storage and 30GB of whatever. It's all app storage, file storage, etc. That's what makes the Galaxy Nexus's internal storage configuration different from any other phone's. They used MTP because, since the OS is also sharing the same big memory partition, it needs to be accessible by the CPU to continue running while you're transferring files.
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That's not the reason for using MTP though. MTP is being used because all of the device's memory is pretty much one one partition and anything beyond that is symlinked. So no more 2GB of app storage and 30GB of whatever. It's all app storage, file storage, etc.
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And this is why Google is going with single partition storage w/o expandability and MTP transfer. It's the best overall solution.
iLeopard said:
I use OSX so sadly I am only able to share my experience from that perspective. I've only used MTP but when I connect it Android File Transfer comes up automatically. Its nothing more than a simple file explorer in which you can add or remove files but not move them around or anything like that. The big advantage of MTP however is that I am able to use the internal storage while the device is "mounted" on my computer.
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martonikaj said:
And this is why Google is going with single partition storage w/o expandability and MTP transfer. It's the best overall solution.
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There was nothing stopping them from adding a microSD card slot though. It could have showed up normally. Like I said, on my Galaxy S2, through a normal connection, I have two drives show up. One is for the microSD card slot, and one is for the internal 16GB storage. They're non-MTP.
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There was nothing stopping them from adding a microSD card slot though. It could have showed up normally. Like I said, on my Galaxy S2, through a normal connection, I have two drives show up. One is for the microSD card slot, and one is for the internal 16GB storage. They're non-MTP.
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But it'd be the same bad experience of having separate storage areas and having MTP for part and UMS for the other part. Its best to just keep it all internal and use MTP.
just read up on the MTP transfer speeds. Looks like i'll have to go into CWM to transfer
Is it slow transferring from phone to PC also?
tracerit said:
just read up on the MTP transfer speeds. Looks like i'll have to go into CWM to transfer
Is it slow transferring from phone to PC also?
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Its not slow... At least on OSX it's been just fine as I said before.
Works great in windows. Can't get it working in Linux at all.
MTP is fast for me.
I transferred 3gb of video in about 10 minutes. Its not revolutionary, but its not slow.

File transfer mode NOT media device mode?

Sorry for a kinda double post, as ive posted this in the noob thread, but I think its being overlooked.
When connecting to a PC, how can I get a normal file transfer mode?? the media mode is just too limiting, one file at a time, transfer with no ETA, cannot browse picture folders with image viewers.. "this file cannot be played are you sure you want to copy it" blah blah blah...
I'm sure on my old HTC sensation as well as media mode you had file mode.. but I cannot find it and I don't have usb 3.1 on my laptop only 3.0 so hopefully that's not the answer..
please help.. mostly after getting at my SD card without removing it from the phone as I can never find the "proddy thing".. not fussed if I need to install a third party app or other... but currently on stock EU rom non-rooted.
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Sorry for a kinda double post, as ive posted this in the noob thread, but I think its being overlooked.
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... im not sure if i can help you really. What is the operating system you are using there? MTP works for me in Linux aswell as with Win 10.
stupink said:
When connecting to a PC, how can I get a normal file transfer mode??
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When connecting to a PC it should pop up a question about how you want to use the connection. So select Filetransfer and trust it with "Yes". And that s it basically. You can also find this in the notification bar... eh about what to use USB for.
Also be sure to have suiting drivers. IIRC they should be installed with HTC Sync Manager. Maybe installing HTC Sync Manager would fix your issues already?
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I'm sure on my old HTC sensation as well as media mode you had file mode.. but I cannot find it
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How old? I think this special mode you refer to was removed some Android releases ago already. Nowadays theres MTP. By all this speed of that USB ports nowadays intention seems to be initially that you do not have to unmount it in order to get all that stuffs you knew from past. I remember when my ONE-S got a update suddenly in past where exactly this step to MTP happened. Since the USB2 hardware in this old phone was a bit older and worse it became slower than before. Many ppl had been looking for a fix for this, since you could not enable it like it was before. IIRC one solution was to use a custom ROM. I can not recommend using a custom ROM personally.
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and I don't have usb 3.1 on my laptop only 3.0 so hopefully that's not the answer..
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No it is not. I m also having a 3.0. Still at least with marshmellow you would have to enable the fast file transfer with 3.1 explicitly in the case you really have such port on your Computer. And still theres some influences and things to consider to get optimum bandwidth.
But a 3.0 connection is usually not as crappy as you describe it now. So i would sugguest you:
- I assume a driver bad.
- Or Faulty cable.
- Maybe some setting in your file browser on the computer?
- Is the preview disabled maybe?
- Latest drivers for the phone? (HTC Sync Manager)
At very first i would try to get latest HTC Sync Manager for HTC10 from HTC website. Or if you are in linux, check your packages, udev rules and that MTP gets rolling.
Hope this helps a bit.
PS.: Try connect your Phone to another computer with maybe Windows 10 and latest HTC Sync Manager. Just to exclude that your computer or its software might cause this issue.
Thanks for the reply, my "old" htc was probably 6+years ago.. I think it was my first android phone, Recently I have been using LG G3 running cyanogenmod, so have always had a proper "file mode".. it was just like plugging in an external hard drive. I did not realise this was not a feature anymore in standard android.
The main problem I dislike is not being able to view pictures... If I open one picture from my phone or SDcard, then my picture browswer says viewing picture 1/1 even if the folder has 200 pictures in it, I cannot space/tab through the pictures, I have to close that one, then open the next.... I do find it frustrating only being able to copy one file at a time, and constantly having to tell it that I do want to copy the file despite not being able to play it, but those things I can live with.
I already have tried installing extra software and on windows 7, (I am running W10) but no luck
It just sounds like they want you to remove the SD card.. shame they make it so impossible to do.. I'll continue to hunt for a solution without custom rom.. and post any findings.
stupink said:
cyanogenmod, so have always had a proper "file mode".. it was just like plugging in an external hard drive. I did not realise this was not a feature anymore in standard android.
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Yes! I think this i why they kept (keep) it alive.
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The main problem I dislike is not being able to view pictures... If I open one picture from my phone or SDcard, then my picture browswer says viewing picture 1/1 even if the folder has 200 pictures in it, I cannot space/tab through the pictures, I have to close that one, then open the next.... I do find it frustrating only being able to copy one file at a time, and constantly having to tell it that I do want to copy the file despite not being able to play it, but those things I can live with.
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How is it. How do you think about an alternative way to transfer data like e.g. from playstore Air Droid using WLAN.
Did you try another data cable, by all ports and operating systems?
And just in case. Do both of your computers feature the same USB drivers and hub? Maybe a driver issue.
I noticed one thing recently. When i connect with MTP and copy lets say: "400 MB pictures" taken with my old phone, spread on 97 files to the SD card it does not take long. But what takes long like 20 seconds after copying is done is that it shows previews. I have to really wait until it is done transferring.
So could it be maybe the case your phone does not finish somehow?
And yes the Windows Photo thingie does not see it as folder to slide through.
Meaning: i can not deny your issues fully.
Honestly what i totally love is an Plasma Desktop for linux is an software which called KDE Connect. You get WLAN connection to your phone and can even control the mouse. Do simple file transfers. And what i totally love about it is, is that it almost seemingless integrates into the Desktop. On the other End i think WIN10 does not feature such service (stock). Air Droid is one of those tools in this way which you can expand the computer expirience with. The preview and copying over WLAN is blazing fast. Plus you do not have to connect the cable.
But it requires a client/server and permissions on both ends. And thats what i dislike about the Windows side. It is not so seemless. And it is in the way of one of those extra services, running.
Also the speed of the SD card does in fact matter. Is it maybe one of the older generations you inserted?
The new SD's from this year are much faster and bigger.
E.g. read about SD card speed classes SDXC class U1, U2 and U3
Even if you can push 1 GiB /s through a cable.... if the SD only takes 96 mib/s...... lol
Maybe interesting to have a look at what about capacity / price is happening in 6 years.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10315/market-views-hdd-shipments-down-q1-2016/3
So lets say you was using a 6 years old SD.
Your phone is worth (lets say 600 $) but the SD is not worth any cent. In case the SD was so old.
This is how Android now is.
What you're looking for is USB Mass Storage mode. They removed that because it was a wide security hole where someone could just plug your phone into a computer and copy all your storage and mess things up at will. Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) is all Android has now. Your phone memory doesn't just have your photos and music on it; it also has your apps, logins, systems files, etc.
The "file cannot be played" prompt that bothers you can be disabled in Windows. Just do a Google search on that. As for transfer speed, I'll bet you that it's a bad cable and nothing more. MTP isn't slower than UMS.
Good luck.
Thanks also.
I didn't mean to imply it's slow transfer. By limiting I mean it's holding me back. I like to transferr a 20GB video, and while it's doing it, go to my pics and view+sort them etc. But now I cannot. One at a time. Zzzzz..
It sounds like I will either need to investigate lineage again. (I'm unsure at this stage what I loose if I do, camera apps, mirror cast etc). Or perhaps buy a hand full of "proddy things" so I can more easily remove the SD card. I can never find it when I need it.
Thanks for helping me get my head around this alien tech/systems. I feel I understand now what's happening and why.

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