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Speed of updates

Hello,
I'm interested into buying this phone but a thing that matters highly to me is to have the latest Android.
So I ask you guys, if you have more experience with oneplus, how's the speed of updates and stability?
I saw that oneplus 2 got the mm update only one month ago?
That's unacceptable to me..

If you want the most up-to-date version of Android with security patches then the OnePlus is not gonna cut it for you. The only devices that get speedy updates are Nexus devices. That is one of the main reasons I switched to a Nexus. I love pure Android and being able to receive the latest version of Android is great. The support that Google provides Nexus devices is awesome. I have a Nexus 6 that I use everyday as well as a 6P to play with. The 6 and 6P are both solid devices. I'm ready for the 2016 Nexus to be released later this year. Grab a Nexus device and you will not be disappointed. Good luck on your choice.
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Don't buy a oneplus phone ever in your life. I am regretting every bit of my decision to buy a oneplus 3! You need proof? Check oneplus forums and issues faced by people and no response by oneplus team

Love my OnePlus 3! You dont need updates fast, if u want that, then root or buy a nexus!

If you look on update for the oneplus 2, stable update are out kind of late, way later than a nexus device of course but before some major phone manufacturer like LG or Samsung (but it depends on the device for each manufacturer). If the update is important go for a nexus phone. My old nexus 4 goes all the way from Kit kat to lollipop 5.1.1 and officially because with CM it got Marshmallow on nightly build.
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m_usmanayub said:
Don't buy a oneplus phone ever in your life. I am regretting every bit of my decision to buy a oneplus 3! You need proof? Check oneplus forums and issues faced by people and no response by oneplus team
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Bull****.
Although Oneplus has yet to prove that their service and update policy - which always left much to be desired - has gotten better, they already reacted well to user complaints and issued already 2 updates. My RMA also went smoothly.
With LG, for instance, I had worse experiences.

There will be bug fixes and updates every so often.Theres Been two ota updates for one plus 3 since it's release.Not bad,but these updates still have loads of bugs.
It will be a long time before oxygen is is stable on the op3.Still if u like to root and play around with ROMs.There are plenty of options and the one plus 3 is an awesome device

if you are picky and feel an update is most important to you yeah go with Nexus but despite others issues have had owned 4 devices and the problems as small as they are were not worth all the crying I see in here. Yeah I had a Nexus and Samsung as well which all had there quirks. Like mentioned rooting will keep you on top of whatever it is you want to be on top of

Nobody knows how the update experience is going to be for this device. Obviously, if we look at history, things aren't looking too hopeful.
I feel OnePlus is much more on top of their game with this device though. As others have said, the device has only been out around a month and OnePlus has already released a handful of timely updates. One of these updates directly addressed complaints about the phone's RAM management and display calibration. OnePlus had their reasons for the way they configured RAM management and the display, but had no issue with making adjustments to satisfy their customers. I have nothing but respect for them as a company for making that move.
Some are making complaints about the phone having some bugs, but they are few and far between amongst the vast majority of phones (a handful of forum posts don't represent the vast majority). I, personally, only experience the silent notifications bug sporadically...other than that the phone has been perfect. These bugs will surely be addressed in further updates.
If the next Nexus is priced as competitively as phones like the OP3 and the Axon 7, I'll surely be going with one. However, if it is priced like last year's ($499 for 32gb), I'll be hanging onto my OP3.

m_usmanayub said:
Don't buy a oneplus phone ever in your life. I am regretting every bit of my decision to buy a oneplus 3! You need proof? Check oneplus forums and issues faced by people and no response by oneplus team
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What issues? Those people seem trolls or noobs. Every device has issues upon launch. If you have hardware issues then open Paypal claims. My device has been perfect so far and I don't care about speed of updates because I have rooted it and can Install CM any time I like.
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Asus Zenpad 3S 10

Just purchased this tablet (4GB RAM, 64GB storage) and am looking for the best place to find ROMs and hacks for this tablet.
Any ideas where to go?

Hey, bought this Tablet at release.
I think you wont see much (any) development for this device. to expansive and to unpopular for most of the people- And its MediaTek based. So let's hope for the best. Maybe we will get one or tow updates from ASUS... and then it's done.
One of the few Tablets out there, running Android and support an active pen... Was really hoping for Samsung, but it seems they haven't something in there sleeve....

I just recently got this tablet too and was hoping for some kind of XDA development.
Looking into methods of creating a custom TWRP.img for root access at least.

Custom_Builder said:
I just recently got this tablet too and was hoping for some kind of XDA development.
Looking into methods of creating a custom TWRP.img for root access at least.
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Any luck on TWRP.img yet?
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I just bought one. Good god, I wish we could set the back and menu buttons to be lit at least while the screen is on. They're impossible to see in low-light...

SD(XC) cards don't work in this device
SDXC cards (anything greater than 32gb), have a max read rate of 1.8MB/s on my asus 3s (Z500M), so no HD movies without stuttering. SDHC (32gb or less) work just fine. I've tried to log a defect with asus, but their bug tracking system has been down for a week or so.
I tried two sandisk ultra SDXC 128GB cards
I tried one Samsung evo+ SDXC 128GB card
All average 1.8MB/s.
If you have an SDXC card, run the "A1 SD Bench" app and let us know your read speeds.
--edfardos

Any update here?

Same here. I hate having to switch between my Pixel to the ASUS launcher. Its even worse than Samsung launcher.

djdelirius said:
Same here. I hate having to switch between my Pixel to the ASUS launcher. Its even worse than Samsung launcher.
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I always use Nova Launcher.

Ya. I should have researched the ZenPad more before I bought it. Its going back to Amazon and either getting a Pixel C or Surface. The key lags wayyyyy too much. I feel like I'm using a device 2 or 3 years old.

djdelirius said:
Ya. I should have researched the ZenPad more before I bought it. Its going back to Amazon and either getting a Pixel C or Surface. The key lags wayyyyy too much. I feel like I'm using a device 2 or 3 years old.
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No problems here at all. In fact the best tablet I ever had, and I have had a lot of different tablets.

loner. said:
No problems here at all. In fact the best tablet I ever had, and I have had a lot of different tablets.
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To each his own, I guess. I've had Samsung Note 3's(rooted), Samsung Note 10.1 2014(rooted), Google(ASUS manufacturer) Nexus 7 2013(rooted), various iPod's(jailbroken), various iPod touches(jailbroken), various iPhones(jailbroken and not), not to mention NUMEROUS android devices through the past 9 years. The Nexus 7 and iOS devices put the ZenPad to shame. And yes, I'm an Android guy.

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To each his own, I guess. I've had Samsung Note 3's(rooted), Samsung Note 10.1 2014(rooted), Google(ASUS manufacturer) Nexus 7 2013(rooted), various iPod's(jailbroken), various iPod touches(jailbroken), various iPhones(jailbroken and not), not to mention NUMEROUS android devices through the past 9 years. The Nexus 7 and iOS devices put the ZenPad to shame. And yes, I'm an Android guy.
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I have and have had Toshiba, several Asus, Lenovo, etc. Sounds like you to tend to lean toward apple products though. Even so every company puts out a lemon every once in a while on every product line, or so it seems. You may have a lemon. Android 7 seems to make most of my devices run better, and I am patiently waiting for it on this device.

djdelirius said:
To each his own, I guess. I've had Samsung Note 3's(rooted), Samsung Note 10.1 2014(rooted), Google(ASUS manufacturer) Nexus 7 2013(rooted), various iPod's(jailbroken), various iPod touches(jailbroken), various iPhones(jailbroken and not), not to mention NUMEROUS android devices through the past 9 years. The Nexus 7 and iOS devices put the ZenPad to shame. And yes, I'm an Android guy.
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nexus 7 2013 works better than Zenpad 3S? this can't be?

loner. said:
I have and have had Toshiba, several Asus, Lenovo, etc. Sounds like you to tend to lean toward apple products though. Even so every company puts out a lemon every once in a while on every product line, or so it seems. You may have a lemon. Android 7 seems to make most of my devices run better, and I am patiently waiting for it on this device.
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I always go Android if possible, I didn't list all of my Android phones I have scattered throughout the office. All my Apple devices, except for my iPad 1 in 2009 or 2010 and the iPod touch the same year, have been company mandated. Same with my computers, I have Windows and Linux on my personal computers but have to use Apple at work.
Anyway, I'll probably keep the Asus and hope for the best. I'm not hoping for a root for this device but maybe system updates will cure my problems. I just received a MoKo case and a ProCase for the Asus. I wish Poetic still made the strapback cases.
Have any of you had any experience with the Asus 3S and the Asus Z stylus? That's one the reasons I love the Samsung Note line, I love the active stylus.
Also, does your 3S just restart randomly? I'm assuming it's auto updates for the ZenUI updates but not sure. I've noticed it doing this around 5 times in the past week.

Z-Stylus works fine
I've bought this tablet two months ago. My last device was a Z300CL, killed by a cat named Elfriede. Z-Stylus works perfect with the new Z500M!

Custom ROM
Just ordered this tablet (got a great deal through B&H). Anyone know of a Nougat ROM?

I just bought one today too. However, unless you can root the device, I don't think you can flash a custom rom. Haven't seen any reliable posts from anyone about haveing successfully rooted this device. The only thing I need to have root for in my Android devices tends to be for Xposed modules so I can use forced full immersive mode & Close All apps. Anyone know if it's possible to do this on unrooted devices on MarshMallow? How does the Nvidia Shield K1 manage to do it without root?

Add me to the list of a new owner patiently waiting for some root/rom developements .
Tablets is perfect outside of having Asus custom FW.

I contacted Asus about upcomming updates and got the following responses (roughly translated from german):
Yes, an upgrade to Android 7 is planned for your device (I asked about the LTE version). Unfortunately, it has been delayed, but we expect it to be released at the end of the second quarter
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I then asked them about the non-LTE version, specifically because of this post which claims that the Z500 will never receive an update because the hardware is not supported by nougat.
We can't confirm this and cannot make any further comment on this false report. Unfortunately, we have no information on the release of Android 7 for your device.
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Note how they could immediately tell me when the update is comming for the LTE version but have no information about the non-LTE version. Perhaps it is not supported by Android 7 after all and they are still figuring out a way around this? I'm not an expert on this topic, someone more skilled than me might want to take a look on the post I linked above, I can provide translation if needed.
Still not sure whether to buy this or the S2. Similair prices, I like the ZenPad more for the hardware, but the S2 is well served with Custom Firmware and is thus sure to be up to date for many years...

Pixel 2 xl or mate 10 pro?

About 100 bucks difference
I currently have a mate 10 pro that has a defective battery I am about to return (battery needs to be charged twice a day on a light use) .
But lost between ordering another or go for the pixel 2 xl?
I know huawei has a bad record of updating their phones.
They already released some updates but still no sign of them on ota.

I've had both and pixel 2 XL is much better imo.

The problem that i had with EMUI is app compatibility. When I had the Mate 9 hulu didn't work and google locations wouldn't update. It looks like the Hulu issue was resolved but if you browse the xda mate 10 forums many people are having issues with widgets. I also think the menu interface is still too cluttered. The updates are far and few

I had a mate 10 pro, hardware wise its a better phone in my opinion, nicer shape, I just really didn't like the software if they made a stock android version and got rid of the iOS wannabe software they would be on to a winner...

No persistent notifications on the lockscreen for EMUI was the reason I went back to Pixel phones.
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Megaromania said:
About 100 bucks difference
I currently have a mate 10 pro that has a defective battery I am about to return (battery needs to be charged twice a day on a light use) .
But lost between ordering another or go for the pixel 2 xl?
I know huawei has a bad record of updating their phones.
They already released some updates but still no sign of them on ota.
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If fast/regular/guaranteed updates are important to you, Pixel is the only game in town.

It's also a question of where you want your private data to go, Shanghai or Mountain View?

Reuben_skelz92 said:
I've had both and pixel 2 XL is much better imo.
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Whats the battery life on the pixel like? Big difference between mate 10 and pixel?

sirxdroid said:
It's also a question of where you want your private data to go, Shanghai or Mountain View?
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Lmao that's a good one ?

If you don't want firmware updates in a timely manner go with Huawei.

Megaromania said:
Whats the battery life on the pixel like? Big difference between mate 10 and pixel?
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There both good. The pixel seems better. But think the mate 10 pro still had some software tweaks to make the battery life better. I never run out of battery by bed time with the pixel. Lowest I get is maybe 30 percent with heavy usage. Could easily last couple days maybe bit more with light usage

With the recent 6P battery/bootloop of death issue (I had to return mine), not sure I'd even want to look at Huawei so soon.

andy6685 said:
With the recent 6P battery/bootloop of death issue (I had to return mine), not sure I'd even want to look at Huawei so soon.
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The 5X made by LG also has bootloop issues. I think there was something else there, like the SoC that year had issues, or maybe coincidence that both Huawei and LG had manufacturing issues.
Where are the $299 Nexus 4 phones from a few years ago ... It really sucks to spend this much on a phone these days and have all sorts of issues battery, bootloop, screen, ... I suppose you buy these phones with a credit card that extends the warranty by another 2 years, so on a Pixel 2 you get 2 years from Google + another 2 years from a good credit card and you're covered without buying an extended warranty plan.
So yeah to the OP, don't forget that the Pixel 2 has 2 yrs warranty from Google.

sirxdroid said:
The 5X made by LG also has bootloop issues. I think there was something else there, like the SoC that year had issues, or maybe coincidence that both Huawei and LG had manufacturing issues.
Where are the $299 Nexus 4 phones from a few years ago ... It really sucks to spend this much on a phone these days and have all sorts of issues battery, bootloop, screen, ... I suppose you buy these phones with a credit card that extends the warranty by another 2 years, so on a Pixel 2 you get 2 years from Google + another 2 years from a good credit card and you're covered without buying an extended warranty plan.
So yeah to the OP, don't forget that the Pixel 2 has 2 yrs warranty from Google.
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I ordered one and received it today from amazon
Dunno why I decided to search on amazon again and found the phone 130 bucks cheaper
I asked them if they can price match they said no
So I ordered the cheaper one and gonna return the one I received
It was 760 instead of 889

Got both and use both constantly. Pixel 2 Xl as my private phone, Mate 10 Pro as my work one.
The Huawei "feels" better in hand to me. EMUI works well for me. I also like the camera on the Huawei, though the Pixels is better for point and shoot. As for the interface I really don't see the native one is a problem in any way, I simply downloaded the pixel 2 launcher and I see hardly any difference in real day to day use. The AOD isn't that useful as it only shows notifications from Huawei apps, you need to download third party AOD apps to work (Always On AMOLED).
The Pixel is very nice too and I like extras it has. Plain Google android, an Always On Display that actually works, the Shazam-like notifications, the way it is all just integrated.
I think if I was going to have a to choose it would be the Pixel but it wouldn't be a clear cut decision.

As many various tier Huawei phones I have tested & used, I would never buy any phone made by them. Their CPU always feels inferior to the latest Snapdragon, and multitasking is still something that hasn't been solved by them: try running 3 apps and switching between them, and the phone will lag like hell. I was also baffled when I tried to unlock the Mate 10 Pro, and it took 4 seconds to get to the home screen and draw all the icons... I'm sure Huawei makes decent phones and they have their audience, but they never offered anything that would appeal to me... And the camera is a joke for this price, just check this video:
Also, due to my work I've had the "luck" to get to know their ways of working a bit better than most people ever will (no, I never worked for Huawei), and let me tell you that adhering to standards is not their strong suit (not that Apple or Samsung are better at that department either). The Samsung-like spamming of the market with 10-15 devices with nearly identical capabilities is just one example of how the company wants to gain big market share (basically flood the market at a low cost entry point and ramp up the costs down the road to the point where you came out with a significant deficit...) without providing anything but worse quality (terms of code quality, for example).
As you can tell I pretty much despise the whole brand & can't be really objective in the question, but these are personal experiences that made me decide never-ever to buy anything made by Huawei (also, the fact that when I faced them with the reality that their flagship can't run 3 of my apps smoothly without getting sluggish they cut almost all ties with me...). That $100 difference will buy you not just a superb phone, but 2 years warranty, the (current) best camera solution a phone offers out of the box, timely updates for 3 years, a clutter- and bloatware-free Android experience, unlimited Photos storage for original image uploads for 3 years (from account activation on the phone), I even got the free Google Music promotion although I've been a subscriber for years now, just to name a few.

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If you don't want firmware updates in a timely manner go with Huawei.
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Quoted for the absolute truth. I was trying to make this same decision myself last year, coming from a Mate 9. All in all I did like the Mate 9, it did occasionally have very big lag moments, such as when launching Flipboard, but otherwise it really didn't feel any different from a Snapdragon to me. The camera is one of the weak points, as it has some serious issues with over exposing, and from reading reviews of the Mate 10, I'm not sure they got it right on the 10 either. But my biggest gripe by far would have to be the complete lack of any updates, especially security updates. I have a U.S. Mate 9, and it's still on a security update from June 2017. That plus reviews of the Mate 10 camera not being that great pushed me to get the Pixel 2 XL. The Pixel's camera on full auto is truly in a different league from the Mate 9's, even if you tried to use the Mate 9's manual modes...you can safely believe the hype about the Pixel 2's camera.

Elsydeon said:
Quoted for the absolute truth. I was trying to make this same decision myself last year, coming from a Mate 9. All in all I did like the Mate 9, it did occasionally have very big lag moments, such as when launching Flipboard, but otherwise it really didn't feel any different from a Snapdragon to me. The camera is one of the weak points, as it has some serious issues with over exposing, and from reading reviews of the Mate 10, I'm not sure they got it right on the 10 either. But my biggest gripe by far would have to be the complete lack of any updates, especially security updates. I have a U.S. Mate 9, and it's still on a security update from June 2017. That plus reviews of the Mate 10 camera not being that great pushed me to get the Pixel 2 XL. The Pixel's camera on full auto is truly in a different league from the Mate 9's, even if you tried to use the Mate 9's manual modes...you can safely believe the hype about the Pixel 2's camera.
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Dxo ranks mate 10 pro right after pixel 2
Alot of websites commended the mate 10s camera

So i got to tinker with the pixel 2 for a bit and I miss some features from Huawei
1. Dark mode.
2. I got used to the navigation dock on the mate 10 it made the screen look fuller and nicer to look at lol, another thing in the pixel I can't swap the navigation bar buttons ?
3. Just find it weird that when I click the recent button I have to scroll up to clear all the apps
Other than that the phone is bad ass
The camera is amazing and no bloatware
Hopefully Google would enable these things

Megaromania said:
So i got to tinker with the pixel 2 for a bit and I miss some features from Huawei
1. Dark mode.
2. I got used to the navigation dock on the mate 10 it made the screen look fuller and nicer to look at lol, another thing in the pixel I can't swap the navigation bar buttons ?
3. Just find it weird that when I click the recent button I have to scroll up to clear all the apps
Other than that the phone is bad ass
The camera is amazing and no bloatware
Hopefully Google would enable these things
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Hahahahahaha..I doubt Google will grant your request. However, the rom developers just might ??

Do you feel disappointed by your pixel c? (and google by extension)

First it was speculated to come with chrome OS (at one point it was found to have been originally planned for it), then the thing was sent out with bugs (I had the random reboot and now severe lag) that were promised to be fixed by software and never were.
NOW I read were not even getting Android P even thought the tablet is more than capable in handling it.
I have to be honest Im SEVERELY disappointed in googles newest devices. The Nexus and Nexus S were solid, the nexus 5 was a miracle, the 5x was a slight taper down with the bootloop issue but google made sure to take care of a lot of those people. Now my pixel 2 already had the mic bug, was replaced and now has the loose USB C issue and will have to be swapped again. On top of that the pixel c was being sold new about 3 or 4 months ago and now google is basically telling those people "hey guess what you bought something were not supporting!"
Honestly this was a pretty pricey tablet but between the random rebooting and atrocious lag that never got nor will apparently ever be fixed, I for one am completely disenchanted with googles devices. I see the watch may be coming out in fall but I dont know if I can bring myself to even be curious about it.
How do you guys feel about the tablet? Do you have any of the issues? Do you plan on buying another from them?

I don't own this device (yet) but having only every used Nexus tabs (and I have used them all) and hearing about Pixel devices, google needs to either A: reform their in house hardware development system (fire and hire designers, get more people to scrutinize design, better manufactures, etc.) or B: Scrap in house hardware design and go back to other OEM's and re-open the Nexus program, preferably with Samsung and HTC, because let's be honest, the best Nexus devices were made by them hands down. LG Nexus 5 is the ONLY exception and even then the Galaxy Nexus was better. I know option A would cost A LOT, but that extra cha ching is just an investment really. Better hardware sells better and builds more confidence in your brand, which is pretty much non-existent in the Pixel Line up. Case and point it sucks that you are having these issues, and reccomend you sell your Pixel C for a good Nexus 9 or Nexus 10 if you don't mind leeping back down to android 6.0.1 (or staying at 7.1/8.1 if you don't mind a lack of camera or flash)

I think this is the best Android tablet ever built, even if it is a couple years old now.
Great build quality, great screen quality and dimensions, fast and great battery life.
Nvidia X1 is also the best chip ever produced by the company: great Gpu (as K1) but this time also solid CPU.
It is perfectly enjoyable even stock.
I had no reboot or lag or other problems here.
I am coming from Nexus 9 (previously owned also Nexus 10 and Nexus 7 2012) and Pixel C is a great improvement

I am also quite disappointed:
At least I expected that ChromeOS would be ported to the Pixel C. Reading some discussions here, the Pixel C is already fully prepared for ChromeOS. Even the bootloader seems to be a ChromeOS-Bootloader.
The next disappointment was that the Pixel C wont get an official Android P ROM. I expect that LineageOS will deliver a P ROM. We will see.
I also do not intend to buy a Google device again if I can avoid it. Because of an broken display I recognised that Google has a pretty descent support. But the devices are much overpriced, like Apple. But a Killer-Argument for me is an official Support for a custom ROM. (Because I normally intend to use my devices MUCH longer than the manufacturers intend to deliver updates.) Otherwise I would have an Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 (because of the pen). So it is possible that i would by another Google device, but it is not very likely.

General OnePlus 11 General Discussion

Hey everyone,
iPhone 14 Pro Max user here,
What's everybody's thoughts about this phone? Why would an iPhone user who gets top dollar for selling their phone right before/after announcement of the next want to buy this? I ordered the OP 11 for a crazy price of $500 after taxes from an open box deal and was wondering if this phone would be worth keeping.
I used to visit this site to find the latest tweaks and cool tricks you could do with your Android phone and there seems to be pretty much nothing that you couldn't do with a stock OnePlus 11. I am the type to try to not be reliant on expensive subscriptions such as cloud storage, hardware that is just overpriced, and being wrapped up deep into a single brand's ecosystem. I figured I already use Snapdrop instead of AirDrop, AirParrot instead on my Windows laptop instead of AirPlay on an Apple device, my home NAS instead of iCloud, and Windows PC's over expensive comparable Macs. However, I still use a few Apple devices in my daily life.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Apple nor do I feel any reason to HAVE to leave them, but I am always open to other options and I've always had a soft spot for OnePlus ever since the original 1. iPhones are becoming well-polished phones but I feel like iOS is bland sometimes.
In my opinion, OnePlus peaked with the 7 Pro. (It almost got me to switch back to Android) That phone did really everything right to me besides having pretty lackluster cameras. I really was only interested in checking this phone out because I noticed it was one of the only devices that supports Wi-Fi 7, it has incredibly fast charging, and it has USB-C! My iPhone has hardly any weaknesses, so I would really have to be won over big time by an Android phone to make me want to switch.
Do we see a future where, within the next few months to a year, this phone becomes perfectly compatible with a GCAM mod that will improve camera quality a lot and/or we receive some really neat custom ROM options / mods that really enhance the experience this hardware has to offer?
Something about these OnePlus phones and their bleeding-edge performance in certain key areas still have me wanting one every year. I just have a hard time justifying how I could force myself to use an Android phone living in the United States where all my business/family contacts use iOS for their mobile operating system. I feel like once iPhones use USB-C, they no longer have a camera cutout on their screens, and they can support faster charging speeds, Android will be dead in the US. It's a rough future ahead. For me, I used to love Android for the customization, the fun stuff that iOS would never allow, and that there were just so many choices to decide between depending on what device suited your needs most. Just my thoughts and opinions. Feel free to reply with what you think about this phone or how you navigate having to use an Android in an iOS-dominant country. I could easily switch, but I just don't see any major reason to do so anymore. And seeing the OP 11 forums kind of quiet compared to the old days of Google Nexus devices doesn't lead me to believe that people overall like this phone / are working on anything unofficially to try to improve the phone.

The forums have been relatively quiet for multiple reasons:
1. OnePlus has become developer community unfriendly, almost hostile: it's way too hard/too much work to create/install a different ROM than the official. In addition to that OnePlus has totally disabled full access to its cameras, "this phone becomes perfectly compatible with a GCAM mod that will improve camera quality" - no, very unlikely to happen.
2. OnePlus once was a flagship killer but in terms of price/features they have been lacking recently. OnePlus 11 is a breath of fresh air in terms of pricing but there are much much more affordable options such as the ZTE Nubia Z50 at $400 or something, which is almost twice as cheap as the OnePlus 11.
3. OxygenOS 13 is not the OxygenOS you may remember, it's a ColorOS facelift. OxygenOS 12 was extremely buggy and incomplete. "OxygenOS" 13 is lacking literally dozens of features present in OxygenOS 9-10-11.
4. Developers in general tinker with their Android phones a lot less nowadays than in the past. The whole development scene has been in decline.
5. Weird update policy doesn't help. I've heard (cannot confirm) that certain older OnePlus devices haven't got updates in the past 8 months.
That's my thoughts which may not necessarily represent the status quo.
To be honest I see no reason to switch from Apple to OnePlus unless you need advanced Android features such as normal file management, downloading any files from the Internet, being able to send files via BlueTooth, modding, various home screens, third party phone/SMS applications, etc. etc. etc.

You just listed pretty much most of the features Apple users don't have anyway so LoL
Unfortunately I have to use iPhone in my work so 3/4 of the day I spend on iOS. Compared to stock Oxygen OS13 (even if hated by die hard Oneplus fans) it is still much better IMO and more configurable than iOS. Apps eco system is different, iOS have generally more stylish apps but most of them if not pretty much every single one that is actually worth consideration is always paid version only.
From birdie's list, only the update policy on Android phones are worse compared to Apple.

birdie said:
The forums have been relatively quiet for multiple reasons:
1. OnePlus has become developer community unfriendly, almost hostile: it's way too hard/too much work to create/install a different ROM than the official. In addition to that OnePlus has totally disabled full access to its cameras, "this phone becomes perfectly compatible with a GCAM mod that will improve camera quality" - no, very unlikely to happen.
2. OnePlus once was a flagship killer but in terms of price/features they have been lacking recently. OnePlus 11 is a breath of fresh air in terms of pricing but there are much much more affordable options such as the ZTE Nubia Z50 at $400 or something, which is almost twice as cheap as the OnePlus 11.
3. OxygenOS 13 is not the OxygenOS you may remember, it's a ColorOS facelift. OxygenOS 12 was extremely buggy and incomplete. "OxygenOS" 13 is lacking literally dozens of features present in OxygenOS 9-10-11.
4. Developers in general tinker with their Android phones a lot less nowadays than in the past. The whole development scene has been in decline.
5. Weird update policy doesn't help. I've heard (cannot confirm) that certain older OnePlus devices haven't got updates in the past 8 months.
That's my thoughts which may not necessarily represent the status quo.
To be honest I see no reason to switch from Apple to OnePlus unless you need advanced Android features such as normal file management, downloading any files from the Internet, being able to send files via BlueTooth, modding, various home screens, third party phone/SMS applications, etc. etc. etc.
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It's sad to see! My shipment got delayed and I'm already thinking of not keeping the phone. I feel like OnePlus needs a really strong camera setup before they can finally compete. I use my cameras too much to not have the best out there. The more reviews I watch, the more people say how the S23 Ultra is pretty much a better phone in almost every area besides charging and not having Wi-Fi 7. Not only that, but it seems that the phone also have custom ROM support. Just not trying to spend iPhone money on an Android unless I was for sure going to switch over. The Samsung has me slightly more intrigued...

rmx36 said:
It's sad to see! My shipment got delayed and I'm already thinking of not keeping the phone. I feel like OnePlus needs a really strong camera setup before they can finally compete. I use my cameras too much to not have the best out there. The more reviews I watch, the more people say how the S23 Ultra is pretty much a better phone in almost every area besides charging and not having Wi-Fi 7. Not only that, but it seems that the phone also have custom ROM support. Just not trying to spend iPhone money on an Android unless I was for sure going to switch over. The Samsung has me slightly more intrigued...
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SGS23 Ultra currently has the absolute best camera setup of any smartphone on Earth. I've seen its 50MP shots, they are outstanding. OnePlus 11 pales in comparison.
I'd have bought SGS23 Ultra but it's at the very least $400 more expensive which is too much for me.

It's not the best phone out there, but it isn't the worst either. People bash a lot about the color os version of oxygen os. I'm using it and kind of got used to it. It gets the work done. Cameras are very good according to the price. Front camera is mediocre. But the rear is very strong. You can see the reviews. Also it gets better through updates. Lastly and fortunately, a developer got the phone through crowdfunding as far as I know. So development might just happen for op11. Fingers crossed.

OP if you are able why not just use both? I have both OnePlus 11 and iPhone 14 pro max that I use everyday along with my pixel 7 pro. the iPhone 14 pro max has my primary sim in it which I use paired with an apple watch. and I recently made the move to an IPhone in early 2022 full time before that I was android all the way. I still want to use android because as everyone knows it still does things IPhones cant do. so anyways i use my oneplus 11 to mainly listen to podcasts, watch sports and tv. the speakers on this thing are great. maybe the iPhone beats it but not by alot imo. the screen i feel is better than the Iphone 14 pro max. and it acutally has a damn sim card slot which is something I hate that apple got rid of and sadly i see most companies doing in the future. the camera on the oneplus isn't as good but for me i dont care about that.
the only reason besides the apple watch that keeps me on an iphone as my daily is because of a very niche app otherwise i would be on android full time and i would just use the iphone to keep in the know.

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... Apps eco system is different, iOS have generally more stylish apps but most of them if not pretty much every single one that is actually worth consideration is always paid version only.
From birdie's list, only the update policy on Android phones are worse compared to Apple.
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This is why android users are generally categorized as being cheap people. I don't care what platform I'm using iOS, android or whatever if an app is worth it to me then I will pay for it. IMO this is why apple apps perform better than their android counterparts because developers know that people will pay for them so its worth their time.