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Black Screen, phone still works?

Hello XDA members, this time I'm writing to all of you to tell you something that happened to my Optimus G E987 from Claro Argentina, also, to ask you something related to the topic.
I bought this phone about 4-5 months ago, and I have taken really good care of it, without using any film protection or case, it was working perfect and with not a single scratch on it, not even a little hit.
But then, some days ago, I decided to "protect it" a little bit, so I got one of this:
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I used it like.. dunno, 3-4 days. One night, my phone was on 53% battery, to lazy to charge it so I just let it like that. Next day I gave it some use, so it dropped to 33% of battery life, I had to go work so I turned it off. When I finished, I tried to turn it on again, but nothing happened, tried more times and nothing, then I noticed I liiiitle light in the screen, the phone was turned on, but with REALLY low visibility, almost everything black but with a little of sight.
I though it was just a battery problem, so I charged it, but to my surprise, nothing happened, well something did happen, the little bit of sight that I had just went full black with no visibility. I noticed that the touch screen and buttons actually worked, I could "easily" navigate through the phone by just using it as normal, but without seeing (you can do this by just knowing your phone a bit).
And that's the story, basically, after using that case, the phone "casually" stopped working properly, all I got was a functionally phone with a black screen.
I managed to connect it to my pc through wifi and launched Android Screen Cast, to see what was happening on my phone. The glow was at 100% (I tried changing it) and everything seemed normal.
If you don't want to read, here is a TL;DR
>Bought Magnetic* Flip Stand Leather Wallet Case for Optimus G
>Some days after, phone screen stopped working (phone was still normally working, just with a full black screen)
About the Magnetic thing.. is there any possibility that this was the problem? the magnetic thing?
Btw, I sent the phone to tech service because it was still on warranty and they have me a new one, now I'm scared of putting it again in the leather case I bought, I don't want this to happen again.
Something to comment? hope you can give me some advice, thanks in advance!

Also having similar problems as you. Somehow, i am quite sure its the stock rom causing the problem.

Had the very same issue few weeks ago, had to send the phone back to LG ( who replaced the motherboard :/).
I was also on stock rom, had root and unlock bootloader (of course I clean all that **** before sending it back).
For my part, I was unable to go to recovery and download mode was quit impossible to access (may be my finger fault )
BUT! some time if I let the phone off for a moment or spam the power key, the backlight turn back on until I power down the phone, so it's could be a software issue ...
Anyway, an other info, when the backlight was off, if i tried to change backlight level i was getting a error message about overeating or something like that...

I HAVE FOUND A SOLUTION FOR THE LG G4 BOOTLOOP ISSUE *Story & Tutorial*

Basically what happened, was on Friday, my phone got stuck in a boot loop. It would get to the "Optimizing Apps" screen and shut off again. Other people may just get to the Verizon screen, or even just the LG screen. I looked it up and found that it was a major issue affecting many people, so I just filed for a warranty and received my new phone today. Well, on Saturday night LinusTechTips, a popular tech YouTube channel(You should really check them out, they are great), released a video on how they fixed a dead Graphics Card and PCI-E SSD by heating them up past the melting point of solder and then testing them. For them, it only worked on the GPU. As I was packing up my seemingly dead phone to ship back to LG TODAY, i decided to give it one more shot. I disassembled the device to the point where I could take out the logic board. I took the logic board and wrapped it in one layer of parchment paper and two layers of tinfoil, shiny side facing in(FYI tinfoil has two sides, shiny and matte). I then placed this package into a barbecue. I turned on the left and middle burners and left the package with my logic board inside on the right side to the grill so it wasn't receiving direct heat. After 10 minutes, I took it out, re-assembled my phone and it booted. I was able to get all of my pictures off of it. This has only been confirmed to work on my phone, but seeing as this SAME issue is affecting thousands of people, It's definitely worth a shot. If you are going to use an oven, PLEASE, make sure it's above 385 degrees Fahrenheit and that you don't plan on using that oven for food ever again, this may release some toxic chemicals etc. I plan on using my grill again, so I just made sure to leave the grill open for 24 hours and I'm going to clean it before I use it next. If you have any questions let me know!
P.S. My LG G4 was the Verizon model.

I highly recommend doing this ONLY if you have no other option. Remember that heating a logic board to high temperatures can release toxic fumes. Don't use an oven you use for food preparation! Toxic fumes can leave residue in the oven and will be re-released upon reheating over many cycles!
Assuming LG's press release regarding the issue is correct and it is really a loose contact, this "fix" could actually work. Of course, only if the loose connection is a soldered connection. Though, it's controversial. You have to remember that the melting point for SMD solder is around ~350°C, or 662°F. So 358°F, or 181°C, is not nearly enough to actually re-solder a loose connection. My guess is that the loose solder point is only expanding due to the heat. There is no real reconnect. It might only be a matter of time until it also breaks. If you could locate the actual loose connection you could really re-solder it and have it fixed permanently.
I've done this on many many devices, including graphics cards, smartphone logic boards, PC mainboards etc. It only works if a soldered connection has a crack small enough that heat expansion is enough to gain reconnection. If there is a loose contact on the PCB or the "crack" in the solder is too big, it does not work. Also, if you really have a dead chip, this trick also won't (always) work.

I read a similar story on reddit. The guy put his main board in the oven, reassembled it, and the phone started working. The last update I read was 3 days later, still working.

I fixed mine temporarily by heating up the emmc chip using solder hot air gun. It seems to be just the emmc chips connection.
Failed again after a fortnight when the phone got too hot. The connection seems to break when the g4 gets hot.
One option to try is to boot the phone inside a freezer. I found that worked too.
Pretty poor quality control on lg's part.
I'm going to try again and see if I can fix permanently.

Worked for me too
I have a LG G4 H815 with serial number starting with 507. It died yesterday night. The bootloop escalated quickly to full death. Even the freezer trick did not work.
I followed the OP instructions. I heated up the grill to ~250 degrees Celsius and cooked the motherboard for 10 minutes.
Magically the phone has been working for a couple of hours since and I have been able to backup files to the external SC card.
I wonder how much more will it work.
Thank you for help OP!!!
Word of advice to other LG G4 users. Backup your phone regularly. Use an external SD card. Set the camera to save images and videos to the SD card. At least at doom day you will have them saved.
Cheers

Silverdace said:
I'm going to try again and see if I can fix permanently.
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any more info on this? Looks like my phone bit it the other day, no boot...just dead...
I'm going to take her apart to see if I can find a bad solder, luckily I still had my G2 lying around.

NFN, I sent mine back to LG US in Texas for a full warranty repair. 10 days RT, no cost at all, shipping included.

No unfortunately. I managed to overcook it and it stopped booting altogether

Do you have the address and info Re your communication w/ lg
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NFN, I sent mine back to LG US in Texas for a full warranty repair. 10 days RT, no cost at all, shipping included.
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Do you have the address and info Re your communication w/ lg, I'd like to send mine back for repair due to this same issue.

http://www.lg.com/us/support/repair-service/schedule-repair-us
they did a **** job. touch screen peeling and failing. Phone slowing down again after about 6mos. Looking for a new phone, but the choices are so limited.

My phone is 2 years 4 months old....never bootlooped
Feel bad for u guys

deltadiesel said:
My phone is 2 years 4 months old....never bootlooped
Feel bad for u guys
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Mine made it just about the same but died from other causes.

deltadiesel said:
My phone is 2 years 4 months old....never bootlooped
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What is the beginning of your phone's serial number?

Hi bro kindly tell is it worth to install custom rom kernal with root to prevent the cpu to clock high speed so it will not go into bootloop? My is also 2 years old thanks

250 degrees F for 6 minutes and brought the phone back to life. We'll see how long it lasts.
Actually it worked on BOTH G4s I have. I first just went dead and I bought a used one for $100 on eBay and it worked fine until the bootloop showed up.

LG G3 D855 Screen Goes Black On ROM and Recovery

So this happened last August and still no luck to this day. What happened was I saw an update for Fulmics ROM which was at version 6.0 at the time and I was still running the previous version so I updated it and the installation was successful until the screen went black while I was browsing the net. At first I figured a clean install would solve things but the problem persisted up to this day. I tried other ROMs (both AOSP and Stock) and had no luck on either. There are some days when things seem to be working fine but then the screen just turns black on its own. I was able to download some apps and even use it for a time but the screen will just go black all of a sudden. I tried wiping the storage (internal and external) and still it goes black. I tried backing up the current "working" ROM I have which is an AOSP one but then during the backup the screen went black and the file is probably corrupted at this point. I also feel that even when it "turned off" there's still power in the phone since the battery becomes drained of its charge over time. I tried replacing the battery with a new one but it didn't solve things for me. Additionally, I encountered a weird part of the recovery wherein there's an orange background and white text which really surprised me like pressing detonate. Any help is appreciated.

zearcxm69 said:
So this happened last August and still no luck to this day. What happened was I saw an update for Fulmics ROM which was at version 6.0 at the time and I was still running the previous version so I updated it and the installation was successful until the screen went black while I was browsing the net. At first I figured a clean install would solve things but the problem persisted up to this day. I tried other ROMs (both AOSP and Stock) and had no luck on either. There are some days when things seem to be working fine but then the screen just turns black on its own...
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It sounds like you may be experiencing the lcd flickering/fading/dying issue some other users have experienced. It is a problem with the main board/connectors, and not the LCD itself. You can try an easy fix, but it may not be a permanent fix.
You'll need to take the back cover off of your phone and put some folded up tape or a label of some sort - something with a little thickness to it - on the rear camera connector; you can also put some on the front camera connector and the metal can that covers the processor chip, but the rear camera connector is the most important spot. Here's a pic with the spots labeled for you.
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What you are looking to do is put enough - but not too much - tape on those spots to add a little pressure to the board when the rear cover goes back on & it is screwed back together. I've done this fix on a friend's phone and it has worked well, although I ended up having to do it again about 4-5 months later.
*Follow this G3 teardown guide to step 7, carefully/gently re-seat the connectors once for good measure(optional), and then put your tape on... https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/LG+G3+Screen+Replacement/33203
**Remember that when you put your back cover on and screws in that there is one shorter screw - it is labeled in step 4 of the teardown.
***Here's a youtube video of someone doing the "fix"(I didn't make the video, so don't blame me for the classical music ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVFA_224Aw

startswithPendswithOOH said:
It sounds like you may be experiencing the lcd flickering/fading/dying issue some other users have experienced. It is a problem with the main board/connectors, and not the LCD itself. You can try an easy fix, but it may not be a permanent fix.
You'll need to take the back cover off of your phone and put some folded up tape or a label of some sort - something with a little thickness to it - on the rear camera connector; you can also put some on the front camera connector and the metal can that covers the processor chip, but the rear camera connector is the most important spot. Here's a pic with the spots labeled for you.
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What you are looking to do is put enough - but not too much - tape on those spots to add a little pressure to the board when the rear cover goes back on & it is screwed back together. I've done this fix on a friend's phone and it has worked well, although I ended up having to do it again about 4-5 months later.
*Follow this G3 teardown guide to step 7, carefully/gently re-seat the connectors once for good measure(optional), and then put your tape on... https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/LG+G3+Screen+Replacement/33203
**Remember that when you put your back cover on and screws in that there is one shorter screw - it is labeled in step 4 of the teardown.
***Here's a youtube video of someone doing the "fix"(I didn't make the video, so don't blame me for the classical music ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVFA_224Aw
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I followed the instructions by adding some paper/tape to the labelled areas. However, the phone now won't turn on. The last time I was able to boot it up was yesterday and it only went so far as the LG logo. The logo seemed off and broken, white lines were all over the place. I tried going to recovery but the phone just died afterwards. I tried charging it and the screen remained black but the phone gets warm specifically around the power button/volume rocker area. I was able to boot it up now and I managed to successfully install a ROM but the screen still goes black and then boot up again but I wasn't able to use the ROM. I tried entering recovery and sometimes, booting up the recovery is a success other times the screen will just go black before entering the recovery. I'm using TWRP 3.0.2 and when I tried to wipe/flash some ZIPs or just tweak some of the settings the phone will just freeze and vibrate so much to the point that the only way to stop it from vibrating is by removing the battery. What seems to be the problem in my phone? Is my phone bricked in any way?

LG G3 D855 Screen flickers and fade to darkness

Hi and thank you for checking my thread
I have a problem with my G3 as described in the tittle, I did the Paper trick I saw on YouTube but sadly it didn't work
After a while I found out that placing a piece cut from Credit card under the CPU might work and I did , but one week later I had the same problem, likely I can just click sleep button and it returns to normal
After these many problems I decided to give up on it and sell it, but I need a permanent Fix so I don't get involved in Cheating
Also , does replacing motherboard will fix the issue ?
Does G4 Worth it now ? I know about bootloop problem

Probably is a bad motherboard
When my G3 finally died (digitizer went bad), I just replaced it with a used G4 for $150. That was like 6 months ago. The phone has been phenomenal. I know there is many who say that every G4 will bootloop eventually, but I really don't see how thats possible if you just browse google for the issue. Yeah, a lot of people had the problem, but if everyone did you wouldn't see the G4 still being sold at a ton of outlets, and you would see hundreds of links to the issue. I think there was a large batch of them that were bad... and they got past QC, but the vast majority of them are probably fine.

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Probably is a bad motherboard
When my G3 finally died (digitizer went bad), I just replaced it with a used G4 for $150. That was like 6 months ago. The phone has been phenomenal. I know there is many who say that every G4 will bootloop eventually, but I really don't see how thats possible if you just browse google for the issue. Yeah, a lot of people had the problem, but if everyone did you wouldn't see the G4 still being sold at a ton of outlets, and you would see hundreds of links to the issue. I think there was a large batch of them that were bad... and they got past QC, but the vast majority of them are probably fine.
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Replacing the Motherboard will fix the issue ?
Yea, i saw "1 month/year after" Reviews on youtube and no one montion the bootloop issue, people ask them in comments and they reply that the phone works normal with no issues
Thank you for replying dude appreciate it

I was skeptical at first, but by baking the motherboard in the oven did the trick for me. It has been a couple of hours now an no flickering, no black screen and no troubles. And i know i'm asking for Murphy to come and bite my as*, but as a little trick, i'd like to suggest before putting the mobo in the oven to try something: i have an old Akasa X4 cpu cooler which has metal fins which are removable. I took one of those things and cut a square a little bit smaller than the power IC to the right of the SoC and then cut another one the exact same size then stacked the two one on top of each other, making sure to not short any capacitor around the IC and then put the metal shield back, making sure to put pressure on the IC. Then preheated the oven at roughly 180 degrees celsius, then put the motherboard SoC face up into the preheated oven on three balls of aluminium foil, one at the bottom near the micro usb, and the others to balance the motherboard, like a BMW Isetta, and put the timer for 10 minutes. After these nervous 10 minutes, I took out the mobo and let it to cool at room temperature for ~30 minutes. And voila, now it works. I do hope that it is going to last, and i will be very careful with this phone, unlike the previous owner. Seriously, how can you put a freaking button (small one, from a shirt) between the SoC and the mid-frame? Crazy. And that's why i got it for ~8000 JPY (about 70 bucks).

Takadi said:
Hi and thank you for checking my thread
I have a problem with my G3 as described in the tittle, I did the Paper trick I saw on YouTube but sadly it didn't work
After a while I found out that placing a piece cut from Credit card under the CPU might work and I did , but one week later I had the same problem, likely I can just click sleep button and it returns to normal
After these many problems I decided to give up on it and sell it, but I need a permanent Fix so I don't get involved in Cheating
Also , does replacing motherboard will fix the issue ?
Does G4 Worth it now ? I know about bootloop problem
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I had a similar problem for about two months. I tried the paper thing over the camera sensor and I felt like it helped some but the problem still continued. The screen would just slowly go dark with vertical lines running through it. All apps would still work in the background while this was happening. I could boot to TWRP and this problem never happened while in TWRP which was odd. Seemed like if it was a screen issues or hardware malfunction it would happen all the time. That's when I decided to just flash back to stock. I was thinking about getting the S8 anyways so what the hell. I flashed to stock 10B and took every single OTA. Took all night but I've been running stock for over a day now and the issue has not replicated itself one time since reverting back to stock. I was on RR Nougat and Fulmics when it happened prior. Has to be a root or Rom issue?

Pozman1 said:
I had a similar problem for about two months. I tried the paper thing over the camera sensor and I felt like it helped some but the problem still continued. The screen would just slowly go dark with vertical lines running through it. All apps would still work in the background while this was happening. I could boot to TWRP and this problem never happened while in TWRP which was odd. Seemed like if it was a screen issues or hardware malfunction it would happen all the time. That's when I decided to just flash back to stock. I was thinking about getting the S8 anyways so what the hell. I flashed to stock 10B and took every single OTA. Took all night but I've been running stock for over a day now and the issue has not replicated itself one time since reverting back to stock. I was on RR Nougat and Fulmics when it happened prior. Has to be a root or Rom issue?
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Just wondering if your G3 is still functioning without the issue.
It really feels like a hardware issue but as you pointed out it didn't happen in TWRP... but like many, I encounter the issue when the phone gets a bit warm (>35C), so maybe TWRP and your stock android is not as hot as RR Nougat? Then again, I'm on MM when this happened...
Update: Actually the flicker n fade happened to me in TWRP while I was backing up. The temperature read about 60C.

I had bigger problems with my g3 and they started as follows
Problem 1. camera not being detected and crashing. 2. Reboot once a while which got worse over time. 3. Bluetooth sketchy and WiFi not connecting. 4. Sd card being ejected and mounted constantly. 5. Mobile data stopped working.
Solution: baked it in the oven 10min with cpu side up at 185c removed to cool 4 30min. Problems gone for the meantime.

This morning at work my D852 died with the exact same screen fades to black and would only stay on for at most like 10 seconds and would only come on again after the processor cooled enough. I came across this youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF1s4RCZAvc
Since I didn't have any copper foil tape, I substituted with Aluminum foil tape and placed the tape in the same places as detailed in the video. (copper works better than aluminum for heat dispersal)
My phone is now back to normal and hasn't shown any issues with the past 5 hours since I applied the fix.
UPDATE: My phone has worked perfectly for several days now until I turned on the GPS from Cell Tower to High Accuracy and it immediately started to die again. Once it cooled down I was able to get to the settings screen to turn off GPS and it went back to functioning like normal

How to fix
I tried the paper trick and it did not work. No need to replace the motherboard or the phone. The issue is just a bad connection between the motherboard to the LCD display.. Probably due to dirt (in my case, I found that quite a few places in my motherboard had corrosion buildup). Here is the fix...
1. Remove battery cover and Unscrew The back plastic from the base of the phone to get to the motherboard.
2. Disconnect all the connectors from the motherboard.
3. Scan the motherboard for anything unusual. (My motherboard had corrosion on several different places).
5. Clean any dirt or corrosion with lint-free cloth. (I didn't have one so I had to use a Q-tip).
*if needed, Dip the cloth in rubbing alcohol to assist in cleaning. make sure that the cloth is JUST BARELY Damp and not dripping, otherwise you will risk water-damaging the phone. If you use rubbing alcohol, make sure that you dry the spot right after you wipe it.
6. Once you have cleaned the motherboard, check the base of the phone and clean any dirt from here also.
7. Replace the motherboard, re-connect the connections, screw on the back, and put the battery cover back on.
Viola! Mine has been working like new for 4 days so far with no issues...
Takadi said:
Hi and thank you for checking my thread
I have a problem with my G3 as described in the tittle, I did the Paper trick I saw on YouTube but sadly it didn't work
After a while I found out that placing a piece cut from Credit card under the CPU might work and I did , but one week later I had the same problem, likely I can just click sleep button and it returns to normal
After these many problems I decided to give up on it and sell it, but I need a permanent Fix so I don't get involved in Cheating
Also , does replacing motherboard will fix the issue ?
Does G4 Worth it now ? I know about bootloop problem
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So a permanent fix is a new motherboard or a new screen?

Fixing a dead LG G3 (D855) with a hair dryer

Hello people of the internet and most likely LG G3 users. Yesterday my LG G3 D855 died right when I was about to watch some good hentai. I’ve been having screen flickering for ages in the YouTube app and as of late the screen also started to fade to black from the corners, random reboots were also quite common. Android became unresponsive for a couple of seconds and then the screen when completely black in a split second. Tried a lot of things after that: removed the battery countless times, changed with an old battery, charged it for hours at the time (battery wouldn’t get hot so no charging), connected to my desktop. No Android, no TWRP, no bootloader, nothing could make my G3 do anything. I was convinced it became a paperweight. After that I proceeded to disassemble the phone. Disconnected all the ribbon cables of the cameras and the display etc and put them back in firmly. That did do anything. HOWEVER I remembered when I was wasting time reading toxic XDA comments and stuff that someone mentioned baking the device to restore connections between the motherboard and the SOC, or something like that. So I did some research and even though something as stupid as putting it in the oven actually seem to work for people. Mum wouldn’t let me put it in the oven so I made my own way of resurrecting my G3. This is what I did to get it back working:
I’M NOT RESPONSIBLE IN ANY WAY IF THIS GOES WRONG AFTER TRYING THIS. IT IS 100% YOUR CHOICE TO DO THIS OR NOT.
Requirements:
DISSEMBLING
LG G3
Screwdriver small enough to remove the G3 screws
Plastic prying tool (old credit card, solid thin plastic will do also)
Good light source
REVIVING PROCESS
Hair Dryer that can get a fair bit hot
The grill of an oven
Stopwatch
A floor that can withstand heat
A place that can be ventilated in case of toxic fumes (nothing happened for me)
Safety goggles (I didn’t have and so didn’t use)
Electrical fire extinguisher (I didn’t have and so didn’t use)
STEPS FOR MAKING AN UNDEAD PHONE:
1. Remove battery, SIM card, SD card.
2. Proceed to disassembling the phone to the state where you only have the motherboard. I used these guides:
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/LG+G3+D855+Teardown/42288
And
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNymIdIXTyI
3. Place the oven grill on a surface that can withstand heat and then gently place your LG G3 motherboard on it.
4. The heating process:
1.
Turn on the hair dryer and start to focus the heat on the part of the motherboard that is facing towards you when you take it out. So not the part where you see the SOC. See image. Hold the hair dryer close to the motherboard (5 cm space or so) and do this for 10 minutes.
2.
Let it cool down for 5 minutes and turn it around.
3.
Proceed to heat the SOC for 15 minutes and let it cool down fully for a minimum of 15 minutes.
4.
But it back together, hope that luck is on you side and that it will turn on.
NOTE: First boot went all the way till android boot screen when it crashed with screen flicker. I removed the battery and waited a minute or two and tried it again and it has been working ever since yesterday night. This is probably not a long-term solution so I’d suggest just using this to get your data off you phone and moving on to another device as fast a possible.

EDIT: Like I said before use this method only if you find putting it in the oven is to risky. My phone has now stopped working. This really is a temporary fix for if you just want to backup you remaining data.

i have used G3 for last 3 years and its was still good phone in market ..ok to the point
i have 3 G3 and one i bought for experiments and i put in Oven and guess what it show some sparks and burn from botton pat of the board so dont ut in oven it can burn and ic on board .. heating through hair dyer is safe i think for noobs... thanks