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Should I go back to original stock? / performance scores

Hey guys, I've been trying out almost all of the one V cdma roms now and I'm kind of at a standstill. I've rooted this phone and have been using it since October and I really am not satisfied with the roms and battery life vs mobile data quality. So my question is, should I transfer back and fully go back to stock? And receive updates from HTC or should I move to a different rom and kernel combo? If so, which kernel and rom combo works well for you? Please post advice as well as performance ratings (preferably using Quadrant Benchmark) of your rom and kernel and please state which rom and kernel you are using so I can get an idea of which one I should try. That's all, thank you for your help.
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Stock is the worst.. Very laggy, HTC updates are very rare and just mess things up, they fix something and break something else. Battery life in titanium Kiss kernel is like stock. Right now I'm on MIUI, it's smooth and the battery is good.. But it depends a lot on how you use the phone, if you play games you won't get to the end of the day without charging again.

mr_nooby said:
Stock is the worst.. Very laggy, HTC updates are very rare and just mess things up, they fix something and break something else. Battery life in titanium Kiss kernel is like stock. Right now I'm on MIUI, it's smooth and the battery is good.. But it depends a lot on how you use the phone, if you play games you won't get to the end of the day without charging again.
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I'm CDMA one v... not GSM

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I think it's the philosophy of these boards to not give and receive advice on ROM/kernel performance as it frequently leads to arguments. It's also fair to say that there are enough different versions of the phone itself floating about (e.g., GSM v CDMA) that one person's favorite and best might not be the best or even be available for yours. I think we're supposed to just try stuff out for ourselves and just decide based on our own experience what is the best for him/herself.
All that said, I've currently settled on Beyond's CodefireX after using RhythmicROM and PACman for a while. I noticed a slight performance advantage in CodefireX vs RhythmicROM and both worked better for me than PACman. I haven't tried any of the Sense variations so I can't speak to them.
My advice to you is to take some time try out a bunch and stick with what you like best. Also, keep following the developers and give them lots of thanks for all the hard work they do.

tallnproud said:
I think it's the philosophy of these boards to not give and receive advice on ROM/kernel performance as it frequently leads to arguments. It's also fair to say that there are enough different versions of the phone itself floating about (e.g., GSM v CDMA) that one person's favorite and best might not be the best or even be available for yours. I think we're supposed to just try stuff out for ourselves and just decide based on our own experience what is the best for him/herself.
All that said, I've currently settled on Beyond's CodefireX after using RhythmicROM and PACman for a while. I noticed a slight performance advantage in CodefireX vs RhythmicROM and both worked better for me than PACman. I haven't tried any of the Sense variations so I can't speak to them.
My advice to you is to take some time try out a bunch and stick with what you like best. Also, keep following the developers and give them lots of thanks for all the hard work they do.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply. I do agree with you in that we're not supposed to create threads about which ROM is the best and what not but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm merely seeking benchmark scores. Ive been an active member of this forum for a while now and know how the one v threads go.
As far as the codefirex ROM that you mentioned I have not tried it yet but if everything is working and stable on it could you please give me a quadrant benchmark score with 1490, Lionheart and deadline ? I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm looking to flash it sometime this weekend and want to see some specs. Thanks
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served24 said:
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I do agree with you in that we're not supposed to create threads about which ROM is the best and what not but that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm merely seeking benchmark scores. Ive been an active member of this forum for a while now and know how the one v threads go.
As far as the codefirex ROM that you mentioned I have not tried it yet but if everything is working and stable on it could you please give me a quadrant benchmark score with 1490, Lionheart and deadline ? I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm looking to flash it sometime this weekend and want to see some specs. Thanks
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. I replied before even looking at your profile to see that you've been here for a while. Speaking (or typing) before thinking can do that sometimes. Again, my apologies.
As for the benchmarks, using the settings you requested, Quadrant came back with a 2262.
CPU: 3196, Mem: 846, I/O: 5550, 2D: 333, 3D: 1387.
This is the first benchmark I've run on this phone, so I wouldn't mind knowing how this stacks up to any results you've accrued.
Edit: I never mentioned which kernel I am running. I'm using the kernel that came with the CFX stable release 16. According to the "About phone" screen, the information is as follows:
Kernel version
3.0.67+
[email protected] #1
Fri Mar 8 05:01:01 CET 2013

Quadrant score running RhythmicRom v1.2e (using radio version 1.00.00.0928) with your settings:
Total: 2237
CPU: 2890
Mem: 1073
I/O: 5696
2D: 336
3D: 1191
I also have KSM enabled. I'm running the kernel that came with RhythmicRom v1.2e:
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tallnproud said:
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I replied before even looking at your profile to see that you've been here for a while. Speaking (or typing) before thinking can do that sometimes. Again, my apologies.
As for the benchmarks, using the settings you requested, Quadrant came back with a 2262.
CPU: 3196, Mem: 846, I/O: 5550, 2D: 333, 3D: 1387.
This is the first benchmark I've run on this phone, so I wouldn't mind knowing how this stacks up to any results you've accrued.
Edit: I never mentioned which kernel I am running. I'm using the kernel that came with the CFX stable release 16. According to the "About phone" screen, the information is as follows:
Kernel version
3.0.67+
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That's perfectly fine, we all make mistakes at times. As for your rom, thank you for the score. Question, how stable would you say that your ROM is and how well do you use it on a daily basis. Which functions work and which don't. I know that this info can be acquired by reading into the thread but i'd like an honest opinion from a user. Thanks
Ginormous said:
Quadrant score running RhythmicRom v1.2e (using radio version 1.00.00.0928) with your settings:
Total: 2237
CPU: 2890
Mem: 1073
I/O: 5696
2D: 336
3D: 1191
I also have KSM enabled. I'm running the kernel that came with RhythmicRom v1.2e:
3.0.46JmzPrimoC+
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How stable is your rom, AKA (reinstating the same question above). Thanks.

served24 said:
That's perfectly fine, we all make mistakes at times. As for your rom, thank you for the score. Question, how stable would you say that your ROM is and how well do you use it on a daily basis. Which functions work and which don't. I know that this info can be acquired by reading into the thread but i'd like an honest opinion from a user. Thanks
How stable is your rom, AKA (reinstating the same question above). Thanks.
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I recommend myone cdma cx 9.5 Rom with sick kernel and make sure you install the v6 supercharger ! My phone runs so fast really responsive and my battery life is amazing! Easily lasts me 2 days I can tell u my settings if interested
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served24 said:
That's perfectly fine, we all make mistakes at times. As for your rom, thank you for the score. Question, how stable would you say that your ROM is and how well do you use it on a daily basis. Which functions work and which don't. I know that this info can be acquired by reading into the thread but i'd like an honest opinion from a user. Thanks
How stable is your rom, AKA (reinstating the same question above). Thanks.
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I would say that the one I'm using (RhythmicRom) is fairly stable for the 5 days of use that I've had with it so far. It's quite fast and responsive compared to stock and a few other roms that I've tried on it. I haven't had any random reboots with it. I've had 2 apps lock up on it a few times, but I work in a basement where my data signal is almost non-existent. The bad data signal is what most likely caused the apps to lock up, as they are ones that rely on moderate data usage: an email app and Google Voice.
As I'm typing this I'm at 58% battery after 12 hours with checking email/texts about 2x per hour and occasional miscellaneous app use. I'm currently using the defaults for Performance: 245/1024 MHz processor, ondemand governor, SIO, and KSM disabled.
One issue that I can see with the rom so far is that it doesn't display the charging status when it's plugged in. Because of this, it sometimes displays the wrong remaining battery percentage, until it's rebooted. Even though it doesn't display that it's charging it still does charge.
A second issue is that I can't record video with it.
A third, final issue is that apps that use a ton of resources can run OK, but they'll cause the phone to be sluggish and will cause the launcher to re-load into memory after closing such apps. An example of this are the Firefox and Chrome browsers.
Besides all of that, everything else works that I know of - including Bluetooth.

served24 said:
Question, how stable would you say that your ROM is and how well do you use it on a daily basis. Which functions work and which don't.
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The ROM runs pretty well, but I do have an unprovoked reset every 1-3 days. The camera can be a bit sporadic. I have had occasions where the camera works just fine and others where it keeps giving me the "Gallery has stopped working." message and stops, which usually requires a reboot to get it working again.
The calendar does not work at all. It opens and everything, but it doesn't sync with my Google calendar, and I can't add events or reminders. According to BeyondExistence, it's a known problem regarding app permissions that has been recently fixed, but has not yet been incorporated into any builds.
I haven't noticed the battery life being better or worse than anything else I've been using, and it definitely will last me through the day.
Hope this helps.

Stock just improves battery life by bout that's all, if I were u would not
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Obeezy562 said:
I recommend myone cdma cx 9.5 Rom with sick kernel and make sure you install the v6 supercharger ! My phone runs so fast really responsive and my battery life is amazing! Easily lasts me 2 days I can tell u my settings if interested
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yah whats your settings? also, does the two days include mobile data always on?

served24 said:
yah whats your settings? also, does the two days include mobile data always on?
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Yup sorry I'm all late lol , data is always on . I no longer have the one v I have the EVO v

[rom tester] 17.08.2013

Dear Dev and ordinary mortals , I decided make new thread for testing roms, kernel...
Many developers saying that their ROMs are the fastest and most stable, but I decided that one thread specifically for the test results.
The rule is simple, send me a PM in your test results.
In PM, send "Rom name (Sense, AOSP, or CM) and version. And of course the kernel and kernel version.'ll Publish the results by category, for example ARHD 21.0 release will result with the highest and lowest score.
The rule for testing:
- Have HOX
- Program to test: AnTuTu
- Scrrenshot "Scores" and screenshot "Check scores"
- Battery 40-50%
- Unplug charger
- Closed all "Recent apps"
- Turn off, Wifi, BT,Data, GPS
Alea iacta est
please moderators do not gai theme, because this place is widely read, let everyone see, that little compete

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i have one thing to say
benchmark apps say nothing... especially AnTuTu
and devs can fake the benchmark score's
the only thing that people can write here ,is what they think of the rom (fast ,not fast ,battery life ,stable ,not stable ,and so on)
but it is also a thing how you install and setup the rom
there are devs here that build roms for a long time ,and everybody using it ,but that would not say that it be the fastest or stable rom on a one x threat

Dont want to be rude but i thought that comparsion is not good idea
just flash Rom u want to find out which is most suitable with u
each Rom has it own impressive part then let user choose
best regard

windylawyer.1712 said:
Dont want to be rude but i thought that comparsion is not good idea
just flash Rom u want to find out which is most suitable with u
each Rom has it own impressive part then let user choose
best regard
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people I thing, what number say

windylawyer.1712 said:
Dont want to be rude but i thought that comparsion is not good idea
just flash Rom u want to find out which is most suitable with u
each Rom has it own impressive part then let user choose
best regard
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Plus, comparison "which ROM is better" threads, are not permitted under forum rules I believe.
Try them for yourself. There's almost no limit to the number of times you can flash and reflash your device until you're satisfied.
Benchmarks are completely useless. Scores are fiddled and cherry-picked. My HIGHLY customized HOX is worse than the stock HOX in nearly every department and nearly every single benchmark...but you put them side-by-side and USE them (and I have) and it literally devastates the stock setup despite almost every score saying it should be otherwise.
Comparing one ROM with another with their wide variability in particular setup from the developer, compounded by various kernel versions, repacked, not, set up this way and that...it's comparing apples to oranges to pears.
Pointless.

U know i think if we would say that the only benchmark program would be epic citadel or the fps in a game this thread would be awsm.
The benchmark situation is all f up but if we could find and use the right tools....
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And still there are other points to consider not only benches. Like is it smooth, does it crash, which kernel is the best, how is the batt life and so on
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and313 said:
U know i think if we would say that the only benchmark program would be epic citadel or the fps in a game this thread would be awsm.
The benchmark situation is all f up but if we could find and use the right tools....
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And still there are other points to consider not only benches. Like is it smooth, does it crash, which kernel is the best, how is the batt life and so on
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And therein lies the problem.
I will offer a comparison. I have two good friends who are members of teams whose sole purpose is to compete for the highest 3DMark score on the PC.
The machines they construct and set up simply ANNIHILATE by orders of magnitude my own in these benchmarks. They achieve numbers that are simply stunning.
However...those same machines cannot be booted and running for more than 10 minutes at a time without literally beginning to slag themselves.
They can reach FPS numbers in game benchmarks that are out of this world...but they absolutely cannot play a game.
Benchmarks and their scores have NO bearing whatsoever on real world usage. And chasing those numbers is utterly, totally pointless.

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Tigerlight said:
And therein lies the problem.
I will offer a comparison. I have two good friends who are members of teams whose sole purpose is to compete for the highest 3DMark score on the PC.
The machines they construct and set up simply ANNIHILATE by orders of magnitude my own in these benchmarks. They achieve numbers that are simply stunning.
However...those same machines cannot be booted and running for more than 10 minutes at a time without literally beginning to slag themselves.
They can reach FPS numbers in game benchmarks that are out of this world...but they absolutely cannot play a game.
Benchmarks and their scores have NO bearing whatsoever on real world usage. And chasing those numbers is utterly, totally pointless.
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I have done a lot of benchmark testing and i think i know 1 or 2 things about it. See you are talking only about how corrupt the benchmark system is and you did not even address the other points i mentioned and and thats why the thread should be closed? What about game benchmarking? And i think there are no rules about not being able to compare roms...
Back to the benches. For me the most accurate program is epic citadel. I know there are also other benches but they are not so accurate. Epic citadel is plain and simple its score is generated by fps only. And thats why is the most accurate. Thats why a nexus phone is faster in it without a problem.. because its faster. So please rather then saying its pointless try to think of a solution.
We allready know how pointless some benches are...
Also its hard for me to believe that some dev is gonna optimize his rom for a specific game or bench in our community. Its not so black and white as u might think
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Reported as comparison threads are not allowed

exocetdj said:
Reported as comparison threads are not allowed
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Well tnx for that. So i guess thread closed. Damn rules
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and313 said:
Well tnx for that. So i guess thread closed. Damn rules
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Past experience says that this would probably end up as a flame war mate. I like the concept of it but there are rules for that reason

exocetdj said:
Past experience says that this would probably end up as a flame war mate. I like the concept of it but there are rules for that reason
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Yeah i think if you would think it through good to eliminate the not so well litten factor this thread would actually have a chance. But big brother does not care
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and313 said:
Yeah i think if you would think it through good to eliminate the not so well litten factor this thread would actually have a chance. But big brother does not care
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True!

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For many of the mentioned reasons we do not want any comparison threads here.
Additionally the experience a user has with a rom is far more than a stupid benchmark result.

4.2.2, low quadrant score!?

I installed the 4.2.2 update, I then ran Quadrant to see how things were. To my horror, the score has dropped massively. Prior to the update, I was getting close to 7000. I am now struggling to hit 5500?!
What is going on?

TacticalTimbo said:
I installed the 4.2.2 update, I then ran Quadrant to see how things were. To my horror, the score has dropped massively. Prior to the update, I was getting close to 7000. I am now struggling to hit 5500?!
What is going on?
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Make sure power saver isn't enabled

wigankev said:
Make sure power saver isn't enabled
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Nope, already checked that! Do you think it could be throttling it because of temp?
I'll tell you what though, I witnessed the FPS drop down into the 30s, during the GPU tests; very wierd...

benchmarks dont mean anything

teonagode said:
benchmarks dont mean anything
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Benchmarks?
Why do you guys keep asking for benchmarks ? they have nothing to do with how good your device is , even if they are real ,
as long as your device is smooth , stable and can run every program there at the google play store then your device is doing as good as all other good devices out there

Well I got 6800 in Quadrant after the update. Similar to before.

Benchmarks are sh**! They tell nothing. We would all agree on the fact that the phone has become faster and smoother with 4.2.2 update and gaming performance has improved
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Moderator Update,
Thread closed.
Please note. All new sense 5 threads will be closed and users are asked to look here first: Sense 5 4.2.2 Discussion

Google edition roms lower benchmarks?

when I install a google edition or cyanogenmod rom or any rom thats not touchwiz I am getting lower scores just wondering why?

Lower's better. And all the TW junk in the background is taken out, leaving room for more processes, so of course it scores better.
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Tak23 said:
when I install a google edition or cyanogenmod rom or any rom thats not touchwiz I am getting lower scores just wondering why?
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But does it feel faster? Because that's what really matters...

lordcheeto03 said:
But does it feel faster? Because that's what really matters...
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This plus eleventy bagillion.
Benchmarks are totally arbitrary and meaningless.
TouchWiz ROMs scores great on benchmark tests because TW is specifically designed to perform well on such tests by putting the whole device into overdrive when the test is run. It doesn't mean that your day to day usage is better.

Tak23 said:
when I install a google edition or cyanogenmod rom or any rom thats not touchwiz I am getting lower scores just wondering why?
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That's a very subjective statement. "Lower is better" really depends on the apo being used. Some, eg. Quadrant, a higher score is better. Linpack is the same way.
As said before, benchmark apps don't tell you the real performance of a device. Though they can give you a baseline or at least a general idea of different aspects. I wouldn't jump on the "benchmarks are useless" bandwagon as they do serve a purpose.
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KCRic said:
That's a very subjective statement. "Lower is better" really depends on the apo being used. Some, eg. Quadrant, a higher score is better. Linpack is the same way.
As said before, benchmark apps don't tell you the real performance of a device. Though they can give you a baseline or at least a general idea of different aspects. I wouldn't jump on the "benchmarks are useless" bandwagon as they do serve a purpose.
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Well they are useless when ROMs are set up specifically to perform well on benchmark tests. That gives aboslutely no real world value.
The only time there is any validity to a banchmark comparison is when you are trying to compare 2 things that are set up almost exactly the same with only a single differing variable.
Like if you want to see if a phone is bad, you'd need to run a benchmark on the target phone and another on a different phone of the same model with the exact same settings. Or if you want to see in a mod if the cause of reduced performance, you would need to run a benchmark without the mod, then immediately after the mod, and repeat it several times to ensure you get repeatable results. Etc etc etc...
You can't just abandoned the scientific method and compare a benchmark of a TouchWiz rom with a benchmark of an AOSP rom with god only knows how many differences in the set up (kernel, clock speed, gpu settings, voltage, etc etc etc) and have it be a valid means of determining which is the better rom in any way. You can't even set it up properly so that all the settings match and the only difference is the ROM because there is so much incompatibility betweent the two that factors into it. Especially when the TouchWiz rom is set up with methods of inflating it's scores on benchmark tests and the AOSP ROM isn't.

I agree. Scientific method comes first in determining the performance of a ROM. Actually I would say real world and use experience is the best method. Given today's Hugh end phones, our for example, getting the most out of a benchmark or anything else serves little purpose. I can disable 2, even 3 core and still have a smooth experience with most daily a activities. Even underclocking the CPU & GPU still retains all the speed and usability.
I think most tech literate people use benchmarks just to see what the phone can do. Also, as a quick though fairly inaccurate method of determining if you're ROM and it's mods/scripts are efficient.
To answer the OP's question though - since AOSP is HW accelerated, has been for a while now, it should be "faster" and yield better benchmarks. Less running in the background. The most things are integrated as opposed to added on to the base ROM and code. That's a very generic and butchered explanation.
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Kernel with Underclocking (300 Mhz)

Hi guys,
I have been testing many different ROMs and kernels so far and still haven't found a kernel which really permits underclocking below 1113 Mhz (for big cores) and 633 Mhz (for little cores).
Do you know any kernel which allows setting cores for a minimum of 300 Mhz for instance?
Many thanks.

Patoilo said:
Hi guys,
I have been testing many different ROMs and kernels so far and still haven't found a kernel which really permits underclocking below 1113 Mhz (for big cores) and 633 Mhz (for little cores).
Do you know any kernel which allows setting cores for a minimum of 300 Mhz for instance?
Many thanks.
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Maybe Agni kernel do this.

IceCold Kernel up until (including) R3.5 has this feature. The feature was then removed without reason by the developer, but you can still download R3.5.
I'm using (and underclocking) it with Havoc OS 2.5 and it works great.

JosephusQuint said:
IceCold Kernel up until (including) R3.5 has this feature. The feature was then removed without reason by the developer, but you can still download R3.5.
I'm using (and underclocking) it with Havoc OS 2.5 and it works great.
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Thanks a lot for the tip. I will flash it to test.
Any experience of those builds till 3.5 working with MIUI-based ROMs?

Patoilo said:
Thanks a lot for the tip. I will flash it to test.
Any experience of those builds till 3.5 working with MIUI-based ROMs?
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I have never used it for MIUI-based-ROMs, so I can't speak on that.

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I have never used it for MIUI-based-ROMs, so I can't speak on that.
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I will see how it goes and will post the results here.
But I am also interested in testing the Havoc ROM. I actually did it before but got poor battery results. Do you have an idea of your screen-on-time with the combo Havoc + IceCold 3.5?

Patoilo said:
I will see how it goes and will post the results here.
But I am also interested in testing the Havoc ROM. I actually did it before but got poor battery results. Do you have an idea of your screen-on-time with the combo Havoc + IceCold 3.5?
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I will make a screenshot tomorrow evening of the battery life, and put it in the thread. (It's bedtime here)

JosephusQuint said:
I will make a screenshot tomorrow evening of the battery life, and put it in the thread. (It's bedtime here)
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Thank you in the meanwhile, I clean flashed IceCold 3.5 Pie and minimum big cpu still stays at 1113 MHz
No option to set 300 MHz

JosephusQuint said:
IceCold Kernel up until (including) R3.5 has this feature. The feature was then removed without reason by the developer, but you can still download R3.5.
I'm using (and underclocking) it with Havoc OS 2.5 and it works great.
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are you sure he removed it without given a reason.?? it was removed caused those frequencies was useless.

raptorddd said:
are you sure he removed it without given a reason.?? it was removed caused those frequencies was useless.
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He removed it, because he thought them useless. What is useful and what isn't, is of course subjective, and I for one disagree with his view. He decided it wasn't worth keeping in; however, the feature was working and not "useless" in the sense that it was incomplete.
Regardless, this is not a discussion for this thread; you may ask him directly in his.

The underclocking frequencies were removed due to the Pie firmware disabling the ability to underclock below 1113MHz.
IceCold R3.5 + Oreo FW should still work.

JosephusQuint said:
He removed it, because he thought them useless. What is useful and what isn't, is of course subjective, and I for one disagree with his view. He decided it wasn't worth keeping in; however, the feature was working and not "useless" in the sense that it was incomplete.
Regardless, this is not a discussion for this thread; you may ask him directly in his.
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bcoz its not useful at all. its all inefficient frequency and he is right. we all tested that alot and found it to be as good as previous undercocked 300mhz freq. just test and see instead of saying this.
people dont even try and complain

JosephusQuint said:
I will make a screenshot tomorrow evening of the battery life, and put it in the thread. (It's bedtime here)
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There you go. It took a bit longer because I normally have 2 SIM-Cards active (but that uses up more battery). So the pictures are from only 1 SIM card active and mobile data always on.

jokerpappu said:
bcoz its not useful at all. its all inefficient frequency and he is right. we all tested that alot and found it to be as good as previous undercocked 300mhz freq. just test and see instead of saying this.
people dont even try and complain
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You know what people also do? Assuming without evidence what other people did/thought, instead of asking them.
I did test and compare, and I do have a measurably better battery life than with later versions of the Kernel. I also didn't complain, I stated how it is.
Grow a thicker skin; people like you are not helpful. Not worshipping every move of a developer doesn't mean not being grateful.
I maintain that underclocking is an important feature to have, others may disagree. Some people want NFC and Wireless Charging, I could not care less.
It boggles my mind, that on XDA of all places you regularly find people that tell you what you do or don't need.

JosephusQuint said:
You know what people also do? Assuming without evidence what other people did/thought, instead of asking them.
I did test and compare, and I do have a measurably better battery life than with later versions of the Kernel. I also didn't complain, I stated how it is.
Grow a thicker skin; people like you are not helpful. Not worshipping every move of a developer doesn't mean not being grateful.
I maintain that underclocking is an important feature to have, others may disagree. Some people want NFC and Wireless Charging, I could not care less.
It boggles my mind, that on XDA of all places you regularly find people that tell you what you do or don't need.
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latest test builds have better bb than older underclocked builds.
if u have had enougj acting like a idiot better use it and see the magic instead of bullshiting here. come 8n tg group and see thick head