Hi All,
Just found that after the phone appeared to be overheating substantially, my H818N just died and wouldn't restart.
Tried everything, but nothing worked.
Took it to the local LG workshop here in Mumbai, India - where the tech pronounced the motherboard dead and that it would be impossible to recover the data.
Further, they would not give me back my motherboard (with chip/ROM), unless I paid them the full price in cash for it.
I paid up in order to secure my personal data, and researched solutions.
Apparently someone in Russia says it would be possible to recover the image.
Any feedback on this and possibilities - as I would have to spend a bomb on shipping it out with the restrictions implemented here in India? (I could mail it from a European location if I fly out on a trip, but have nothing planned)
Thanks all!
superflyboy said:
Took it to the local LG workshop here in Mumbai, India - where the tech pronounced the motherboard dead and that it would be impossible to recover the data.
Further, they would not give me back my motherboard (with chip/ROM), unless I paid them the full price in cash for it.
I paid up in order to secure my personal data, and researched solutions.
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How much did you pay and what were you paying for ?
no warranty on your device ?
No personal data on your sd card. What was left on your main storage to pay anything for.
One Twelve said:
How much did you pay and what were you paying for ?
no warranty on your device ?
No personal data on your sd card. What was left on your main storage to pay anything for.
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There was warranty on the phone - it was only 9-10 months old.
They replaced the motherboard for free.
As stated, they would not return the old motherboard if they were replacing it under warranty - as it would have to be returned into their system for inventory purposes, apparently.
And that is why I had to pay LG India INR 24,000/- = USD 363.64 to keep my old one.
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There was warranty on the phone - it was only 9-10 months old.
They replaced the motherboard for free.
As stated, they would not return the old motherboard if they were replacing it under warranty - as it would have to be returned into their system for inventory purposes, apparently.
And that is why I had to pay LG India INR 24,000/- = USD 363.64 to keep my old one.
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When you said you tried everything, to recover it what did you do ?
How many days did you try before giving it in.
If you had a second chance what you have done differently regarding data storage so as not to end up in this situation.
One Twelve said:
When you said you tried everything, to recover it what did you do ?
How many days did you try before giving it in.
If you had a second chance what you have done differently regarding data storage so as not to end up in this situation.
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Tried to turn it on using all different buttons depressed.
Tried to freeze the phone and then turn on.
Nothing worked.
I would rather ask here what software/apps we could use in order to backup *everything* in case this happened again - as apparently the backup apps appear to be quite fragmented and only do a few things.
superflyboy said:
Hi All,
Just found that after the phone appeared to be overheating substantially, my H818N just died and wouldn't restart.
Tried everything, but nothing worked.
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Seems device is out of warranty . And yes there are solutions to recover the data but they are pretty hectic to perform. You can remove eMMC from the device and mount it another device which should be compatible with eMMC . And you are good to go. 2-3 days ago XDA published a article and told us that a guy successfully implemented 64 GB eMMC on his 16 GB nexus 5. the process is real hard and need particular skills . But if your data is that precious then you can try. And yes always backup your data ..always
rajkatiyar07 said:
Seems device is out of warranty . And yes there are solutions to recover the data but they are pretty hectic to perform. You can remove eMMC from the device and mount it another device which should be compatible with eMMC . And you are good to go. 2-3 days ago XDA published a article and told us that a guy successfully implemented 64 GB eMMC on his 16 GB nexus 5. the process is real hard and need particular skills . But if your data is that precious then you can try. And yes always backup your data ..always
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Bhaisaab, the phone *was* in warranty, note.
Thanks for mentioning the removal of the eMMC - can you provide a link?
What skills were required? Soldering?
Watched this on YouTube - was this what you meant?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYo9AcUQQI
superflyboy said:
Bhaisaab, the phone *was* in warranty, note.
Thanks for mentioning the removal of the eMMC - can you provide a link?
What skills were required? Soldering?
Watched this on YouTube - was this what you meant?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYo9AcUQQI
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Lol if the phone is in warranty then why they are asking for money to repair motherboard. i cant provide the link check that in XDA news . i thought i read that article yesterday or the before that. Link is there . Otherwise you can try in Nexus 5 forums . yeah soldering.
rajkatiyar07 said:
Lol if the phone is in warranty then why they are asking for money to repair motherboard. i cant provide the link check that in XDA news . i thought i read that article yesterday or the before that. Link is there . Otherwise you can try in Nexus 5 forums . yeah soldering.
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I paid the money to hold on to the old motherboard, as they wanted it back if they would replace it under warranty.
superflyboy said:
I would rather ask here what software/apps we could use in order to backup *everything* in case this happened again - as apparently the backup apps appear to be quite fragmented and only do a few things.
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In the days when root was possible you could image the entire storage. Without root you can't do that.
App data stays in app folders some backup programs will take them others wont.
So the ext microsd card is the place to store downloads and everything camera related. From there you can back up locally or to the cloud.
Am really surprised this had happened to you as i always champion expandable storage for just this sort of eventuality against non expandable storage phones
There is another question to be asked here. Would you say your device went into a bootloop.
Were there any signs of flaky behaviour before this.
usually if a phone is getting hot best to shut it off and try after. it seems it got hot enough to affect some solder connections inside. The weather is quite hot these days so operating for long periods under elevated temperatures isn't a good idea.
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I paid the money to hold on to the old motherboard, as they wanted it back if they would replace it under warranty.
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Ohk , try the method i told you , may be you get success.
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Ohk , try the method i told you , may be you get success.
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Thanks - that opened my eyes for another option - but not sure if it's possible to get done (replacing the eMMC) in India...
Also, whether this would even work with the new motherboard? What about hardware IDs/linking to the previous software/system/OS?
One Twelve said:
In the days when root was possible you could image the entire storage. Without root you can't do that.
App data stays in app folders some backup programs will take them others wont.
So the ext microsd card is the place to store downloads and everything camera related. From there you can back up locally or to the cloud.
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Exactly, I tried doing that.
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Am really surprised this had happened to you as i always champion expandable storage for just this sort of eventuality against non expandable storage phones
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I agree. I guess we have to blame Google then.
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There is another question to be asked here. Would you say your device went into a bootloop.
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I didn't notice any bootloop whatsoever.
One Twelve said:
Were there any signs of flaky behaviour before this.
usually if a phone is getting hot best to shut it off and try after. it seems it got hot enough to affect some solder connections inside. The weather is quite hot these days so operating for long periods under elevated temperatures isn't a good idea.
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Yes, it was getting quite hot.
(Was working Tinder heavy-duty - but now doing the same on my LG G3 doesn't affect that phone whatsoever! )
That was it. No other warning.
http://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-5-hardware-modded-to-64gb-internal-storage-by-replacing-emmc/
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JimBadger said:
Hi,
I'm genuinely sorry if this is an often repeated thread, but I couldn't find anyone here suffering from exactly the same symptons as me.
I've had my One X for a couple of months, it's completely unrooted and has nothing on it you can't get from Google's app market. I'm with Orange, in the UK, so the phone's running all their default stuff.
My phone's been running quite hot ever since I got it, but, today, I had it in my pocket while I drove to work (20) minutes, and it must have overheated and turned itself off.
I couldn't turn it on, and, in my panic, I held the power button for ten seconds, and saw the buttons at the bottom flash. Since then, nothing at all, no charging light (from USB or mains). I've tried all combinations of power/volume button presses and absolutely nothing has happened at all. Nothing at all since the first button flashes on the first long power button press (10 seconds). Now, it's been like that for about 8 hours and has been on and off charge all day, to no avail. (no LED at all, at any point, red nor green).
I've just got back from holiday and have a tonne of pictures and vids I have probably lost, but want to try to recover. I'd be really, really grateful for the assistance of the experienced people here. I'm, as you may have picked up, a hopeless newb.
When I connect via laptop to USB, the computer (Windows 7) detects an APX device, whatever that is, but the automated driver installation fails. Nothing shows up in Windows explorer.
Is there anything I/You/We can do?
My last resort is to send it back to Orange, and ask if they can retrieve data, but I expect they'll just send a new phone and wipe/refurbish my old one for someone else.
Is it possible to send phones back to HTC for repair, without losing data?
And finally, although I've not seen anything on the screen at all, no bootloaders, no recovery screen, nothing, might some combinatin of my button-mashing have already wiped the phone?
On a scale of One to OH DEAR...how screwed am I?
Please help me, XDA!
Edit: Ah, I can see it as a device, actually. Shows up as an "APX Device", but I can't do anything with it.
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I had the exact same issue as the above user, only change is that my phone has been rooted... is it still worth sending off to retrieve data on the SD card or will they refuse to fix it as it is rooted?
OneX94 said:
I had the exact same issue as the above user, only change is that my phone has been rooted... is it still worth sending off to retrieve data on the SD card or will they refuse to fix it as it is rooted?
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HTC would fix ur device provided u pretend not to have rooted it ... but they wouldn't retrieve the data for you, though.
[email protected] said:
HTC would fix ur device provided u pretend not to have rooted it ... but they wouldn't retrieve the data for you, though.
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There is absolutely no chance of data being retrieved, even if requested? And sure I can pretend I didn't root it but will they not find that it has been rooted? It was still on the stock rom but not stock recovery
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There is absolutely no chance of data being retrieved, even if requested? And sure I can pretend I didn't root it but will they not find that it has been rooted? It was still on the stock rom but not stock recovery
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Sorry, but no chance at all, the Htc service technician would directly replace a new board on your phone and discard the old one, meaning they wouldn't even bother try repairing the old board, and all you data would be on the old board.
and since the phone doesn't turn on, as i told u previously they wouldn't take the pain of repairing the old board and finding out if ur phone was rooted or not, they would directly replace the entire board. (at-least that's what they did to me, when i tried it :laugh: )
out of curiosity, didnt u use the auto-upload dropbox feature ?
u pics would be on dropbox.com if u did. u could log in with ur id and pass
Let me know what happens :good:
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Sorry, but no chance at all, the Htc service technician would directly replace a new board on your phone and discard the old one, meaning they wouldn't even bother try repairing the old board, and all you data would be on the old board.
and since the phone doesn't turn on, as i told u previously they wouldn't take the pain of repairing the old board and finding out if ur phone was rooted or not, they would directly replace the entire board. (at-least that's what they did to me, when i tried it :laugh: )
out of curiosity, didnt u use the auto-upload dropbox feature ?
u pics would be on dropbox.com if u did. u could log in with ur id and pass
Let me know what happens :good:
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Aah well what's gone is gone...
Yes I had but there was other personal data that I would've really have like to have kept :/
Edit: Will do, Thank you
http://www.modaco.com/topic/335416-nvflash-setup-instructions-drivers-links-active/
This isn't an answer but might be of interest for research. No idea if similar recovery exists for hox. If you could get back to Cwm at least you could mount sd and get your data...
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Sorry, but no chance at all, the Htc service technician would directly replace a new board on your phone and discard the old one, meaning they wouldn't even bother try repairing the old board, and all you data would be on the old board.
and since the phone doesn't turn on, as i told u previously they wouldn't take the pain of repairing the old board and finding out if ur phone was rooted or not, they would directly replace the entire board. (at-least that's what they did to me, when i tried it :laugh: )
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I'm not sure if your information is just from personal experience but the reason why any official repair center won't retrieve data is because of the action of doing so is tangled up in many privacy laws and it's not worth the hassle.
As far as I am aware HTC will repair anything that's within their skill set which is pretty much anything, but the cost of their labour is high and given the HTC One X is currently a £350 phone, it may not be worthwhile.
@OneX94 I can completely sympathise with you – such a ball ache to lose em after a holiday!
Can I ask about some of the more particular details of your phone? You said it was rooted – did you have a custom rom and CPU frequency adjustment apps etc?
leonforthewin said:
I'm not sure if your information is just from personal experience but the reason why any official repair center won't retrieve data is because of the action of doing so is tangled up in many privacy laws and it's not worth the hassle.
As far as I am aware HTC will repair anything that's within their skill set which is pretty much anything, but the cost of their labour is high and given the HTC One X is currently a £350 phone, it may not be worthwhile.
@OneX94 I can completely sympathise with you – such a ball ache to lose em after a holiday!
Can I ask about some of the more particular details of your phone? You said it was rooted – did you have a custom rom and CPU frequency adjustment apps etc?
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Stock rom, set cpu installed and was allocated high levels of cpu frequency as i had almost full battery... why ask?
landwomble said:
This isn't an answer but might be of interest for research. No idea if similar recovery exists for hox. If you could get back to Cwm at least you could mount sd and get your data...
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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I have cwm as my custom recovery but the phone won't start, go into hboot or anything :S
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Stock rom, set cpu installed and was allocated high levels of cpu frequency as i had almost full battery... why ask?
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I was wondering in case you have overclocked it etc.
You insured by chance?
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Hmmmmm the mysterious APX mode a lot of developers are trying to go to..........
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
XxVcVxX said:
Hmmmmm the mysterious APX mode a lot of developers are trying to go to..........
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
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I haven't read back through the thread, but APX means write-off. Its dead, an ex-phone, not coming back to life. Ever.
Claim under statutory rights or HTC warranty.
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I was wondering in case you have overclocked it etc.
You insured by chance?
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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not insured, and i may have overclocked a tad.... :S The courier came to pick the phone up to take to HTC this morning, have i just made a huge mistake in doing that?...
BenPope said:
I haven't read back through the thread, but APX means write-off. Its dead, an ex-phone, not coming back to life. Ever.
Claim under statutory rights or HTC warranty.
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Yeah, its most probably dead.
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
Got galaxy Note 2 , totally bricked right now , Gave it to my friend and he returned me back with completely black screen. Could you please suggest me if anything i can try on this one.
Things i have tried so far
1) Tried with different battery no luck
2) externally charge battery with external charger no luck
3) checked all the connectors inside , all are looking intact
4) replaced charging port no luck
Seems like this device got bricked somehow, is there any way to turn it alive ??
Riffbox or jtag. Mine died last week this way it came back to life unfortunately mine have kind a issue with emmc so it will gonna die eventually again. I hope yours one is ok.
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Riffbox or jtag. Mine died last week this way it came back to life unfortunately mine have kind a issue with emmc so it will gonna die eventually again. I hope yours one is ok.
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Please consider me Novice in JTag field, Do we need different boxes for different devices, i have seen several videos on Jtag,I have sent mail to their US distributor bcoz unfortunately we do not have any in Canada. What's the success rate on these devices ?? Do we have any instructional videos or any support how to use RIFFBOX , just want to make sure if i would be able to use it before i make my order
I have just realised that you don't tell us if you have warranty... if you have it then use it. Cause the way I've told you before probably will void the warranty.
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I don't know how it works in your country but here in mexico, there are several External Service Centers (not official) they repare anything, softbrick, hardware brick, change the case cover, dialpad, etc. but it has a cost. If you buy the box just to repair your phone I think it will cost a lot of money to you since this boxes works with a lot of models of different brands (they are expensive) and you need technical knowledge about how to work with them.
In my case, the Service Center first tried with riffbox (cheaper and fast way) and it worked to turn on the phone in a couple of minutes, it was indicating there was bootloader broken so it worked when tried to rapair it but since my emmc memory was kinda buggy, it died the same day, so i left it again to warranty on the SC and they then tried with jtag this way they told me is like the "hard reset" since wipe and make again the partition system and install all the stuff, now works pretty well but they make a warning to me abut future deads because the final solution and the real one that needs my phone is to change the motherboard (they don't change just the emmc).
But if your emmc is ok, they probably just need to use riffbox maybe jtag but your phone will surely be ok again.
the cost for the reparation should be about 30-50 USD
If you don't know where is one of this external service centers on your town, try searching on google about riffbox, jtag service center in -your town-.
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I have just realised that you don't tell us if you have warranty... if you have it then use it. Cause the way I've told you before probably will void the warranty.
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I don't know how it works in your country but here in mexico, there are several External Service Centers (not official) they repare anything, softbrick, hardware brick, change the case cover, dialpad, etc. but it has a cost. If you buy the box just to repair your phone I think it will cost a lot of money to you since this boxes works with a lot of models of different brands (they are expensive) and you need technical knowledge about how to work with them.
In my case, the Service Center first tried with riffbox (cheaper and fast way) and it worked to turn on the phone in a couple of minutes, it was indicating there was bootloader broken so it worked when tried to rapair it but since my emmc memory was kinda buggy, it died the same day, so i left it again to warranty on the SC and they then tried with jtag this way they told me is like the "hard reset" since wipe and make again the partition system and install all the stuff, now works pretty well but they make a warning to me abut future deads because the final solution and the real one that needs my phone is to change the motherboard (they don't change just the emmc).
But if your emmc is ok, they probably just need to use riffbox maybe jtag but your phone will surely be ok again.
the cost for the reparation should be about 30-50 USD
If you don't know where is one of this external service centers on your town, try searching on google about riffbox, jtag service center in -your town-.
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Thanks a lot for this much knowledge about this product. I always help my friend fixing their phones and some of my good friends pay me for that. Its kind of part time job for me. I am just crazy to try something new in this field so I am not worrying about money part right now. That is why I am just seeking information how much it will cost and from where i can get information how to use this box. I guess we need lot of new things to learn before i start using it. Please let me know whatever u know about it, I am gathering knowledge from google too and other websites , Your help so far is very much appreciated. Please let me know what else you know about these riffbox or jtag ?
No one can answer this. All of you that have had 510 serials please give feedback
So far we got confirmed. Please post all your bootlooped serials here so we can have a dedicated thread to lessen the confusion
505
506
510
No
602 and above will safe
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602 and above will safe
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So where is the source where you get that?
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No one can answer this. All of you that have had 510 serials please give feedback
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I have 510 and its perfect not a single issue. since 9 months
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No one can answer this. All of you that have had 510 serials please give feedback
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Why? Nobody knows what serials are affected or the extent of the problem. Keep daily backups (as you should be doing anyway) and worry about it if it bootloops. Here's a hint - it probably wont.
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I don't believe this at all. 602 was basically the newest revision anyone could quote at the time that LG "Acknowledged" there was a fault.
There have been reports of 603 units with the problem somewhere. (On either Reddit or this forum, can't remember where)
Given the way that LG are handling warranty claims and not honouring repairs for boot looped devices which are rooted or bootloader unlocked.
I think its way more likely that LG have just realised that most devices seem to take around 6 to 9 months before they fail, its easy to cost manage the issue by swapping them all around with minimal repairs until all warranties have expired.
I doubt they are making any new G4's now that the G5 is out. They will be hoping everyone who has a failed device with no repair options will just upgrade to the G5.
Those of which move to other suppliers would be considered acceptable losses.
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I don't believe this at all. 602 was basically the newest revision anyone could quote at the time that LG "Acknowledged" there was a fault.
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LG has never acknowledged anything.
No need when they already replace any faulty device under warranty. Can't get a warranty then look for another device that comes with one.
Given the way that LG are handling warranty claims and not honouring repairs for boot looped devices which are rooted or bootloader unlocked.
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If its bootlooping how can they even tell whehter its rooted or bootlooped. I've read accounts where they've replaced motherboards and returned the device.
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I've got one, no problems.
Its dual sim and the number of people with dual sim i find complaining about boot loops is minuscule. Mostly the single sim lot. I'll take my chances.
Guess what, if mine goes south, i use warranty. If no warranty left, i'll buy another G4 with warranty at half the price i paid when it launched.
What am i going to do with those leather backs and cases otherwise
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LG has never acknowledged anything.
No need when they already replace any faulty device under warranty. Can't get a warranty then look for another device that comes with one.
If its bootlooping how can they even tell whehter its rooted or bootlooped. I've read accounts where they've replaced motherboards and returned the device.
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The never officially acknowledged anything hence the quotes.
They unofficially confirmed to android authority that there was a problem here:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-admits-g4-bootloop-problem-hardware-fault-669603/
Unlocking the device requires submitting the IMEI/DeviceID to LG which they can use as a warranty blacklist.
AFAIK an unlocked device advertises its unlocked status on the bootloader which is visible before the boot-loop occurs.
LG have a root checking service called RCT which logs the date and time of any root related files/binaries to the /persist partition and I believe it also sets a flag in an RCT partition.
It builds a log file of which exact root elements it has seen eg su binaries/ busybox binaries forbidden file extensions and the date/time it detected the latest one of these elements.
Simply enter the hidden menu and find the RCT option to see your devices status.
LG can simply disable the faulty cores on a boot-looping device and check any/all of these.
The best way to hide root that I have read on here is to fry the motherboard by applying 24v to the battery contacts. If LG did refuse to warranty though you have absolutely no chance of recovering from that.
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The best way to hide root that I have read on here is to fry the motherboard by applying 24v to the battery contacts.
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Is there no way for them to detect this ?
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Is there no way for them to detect this ?
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Nothing is undetectable.... The post I read this idea from suggested that this forced the device into the Qualcomm recovery mode (most likely the flash chip can not handle the 24v but the lower level hardware can).
Given that the source of the problem is a faulty solder connection to the flash chip. this advances the problem past the faulty connection stage to the completely disconnected/shorted flash memory stage.
If they cannot boot/read the flash memory chip at all they have no way to prove you rooted. providing you didn't unlock your bootloader.
Obviously if you push it too much, physical damage like burn marks would be a giveaway of foul play.
I read one user had been denied warranty due to oxidation on the mainboard... given the faulty soldering and thermal issues this could cause oxidation/residue on the mainboard.
Another user was refused warranty because a warranty sticker was not present on one of the screws of his device. (This concerns me because my device has no such visible stickers)
I personally have a 506 device tied to a 24month upgrade contract that I started in Feb, I usually bootloader unlock and root within hours of unboxing but read about this issue first and have kept my device stock.
I'm hoping I do not get a boot-loop but think its a matter of when rather than if.
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If they cannot boot/read the flash memory chip at all they have no way to prove you rooted. providing you didn't unlock your bootloader.
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If you're not on a euro G4 BL unlock isn't possible to begin with.
Obviously if you push it too much, physical damage like burn marks would be a giveaway of foul play.
I read one user had been denied warranty due to oxidation on the mainboard... given the faulty soldering and thermal issues this could cause oxidation/residue on the mainboard.
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Right, this is what i was hinting at. You have to be desperate to try something like this which could end up forfeiting everything.
Another user was refused warranty because a warranty sticker was not present on one of the screws of his device. (This concerns me because my device has no such visible stickers)
I personally have a 506 device tied to a 24month upgrade contract that I started in Feb, I usually bootloader unlock and root within hours of unboxing but read about this issue first and have kept my device stock.
I'm hoping I do not get a boot-loop but think its a matter of when rather than if.
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if you're on a contract then you're covered for the 24 months. Nothing to worry about.
yes there is no root. That unfortunately is the situation we are in, every brand has some unnecessary drawback or other.
Well unfort i got a sprint varient but no longer with sprint. Im sure lg wont fix mine if it did happen. I cracked my digitizer about 2 days ago so now the phone has its first sign of damage. And knowing lgs good for nothin high and mighty butts theyll tell me thats what did the boot loop. And for them hoping ill upgrade yea rite never again. Ive been using my old internation edition note 1. Just because its rooted and custom recovery. Id rather go old skool than deal with lg any more.
Plus i thermal paste every device ive owned back since my og evo 4g. So theyll know ive been in mine.
Also as for the waranty sticker mine didnt have one either
Just saw on the russian 4pda, 510 failed with bootloop as well
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=670897&view=findpost&p=49696004
undef1ned said:
Just saw on the russian 4pda, 510 failed with bootloop as well
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=670897&view=findpost&p=49696004
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Have been wondering about the Russians as they have dual sim as well.
Do they have any poll to see which Russian devices had boot loop problems by serial#
One Twelve said:
Have been wondering about the Russians as they have dual sim as well.
Do they have any poll to see which Russian devices had boot loop problems by serial#
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The poll was there, but was removed 2 weeks ago, possibly new one will be back. Some ppl participated and answered that they don't have a bootloop, but later they had to change their vote and that was not possible... I don't remember the numbers, but the problem is also available on H818, many people go to the Service with it
BTW, in Russia / Ukraine only 1 year of warranty, so it's going to be interesting soon Mine was bought in Poland, bootlooped, now in service
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The poll was there, but was removed 2 weeks ago, possibly new one will be back. Some ppl participated and answered that they don't have a bootloop, but later they had to change their vote and that was not possible... I don't remember the numbers, but the problem is also available on H818, many people go to the Service with it
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It will be interesting if it starts again. I wonder why they removed it. Should have left it as is.
From the poll here, the ratio of devices with bootloop is highest with 505, fewer with 506 then keeps getting lower as the months go on. Yes there are some that have a problem but we don't know how many don't have a problem. They are quietly happy
BTW, in Russia / Ukraine only 1 year of warranty, so it's going to be interesting soon
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1 year warranty in India too. 30k G4's imported. Number of Indians who complain about bootloop on xda ? can't find any. Why.
There have been other issues with earlier models, screen problems. One guy had the phone die. he said not bootloop.
Hong kong is another and Indonesia but again they say like you many, there is some noise for a month then it goes quiet.
But the single sim thread it never goes quiet.
Mine was bought in Poland, bootlooped, now in service
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yes i noticed it was a 506.
As time goes on ill try to add all confirmed bootloop serials in post 1
undef1ned said:
Just saw on the russian 4pda, 510 failed with bootloop as well
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=670897&view=findpost&p=49696004
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With the help of google translate did a search on the LG section for the word 'butlup' (short for butlupnikov ) in cyrillic and found about 24 reports.
There is no pattern, only half of those 24 mention the serial#. Some earlier serials 505, 506, 507and some more recent ones 510, 601etc. The impression you would get is any number can bootloop which isn't what we found here.
Agree with what sergei says here.
In general, a matter of luck, like in any other phone. There is more panic, which somehow affects people. I, too, this fact forced to think about the choice of an alternative, but I did not find one, considering the price and characteristics. A camera for me is probably the most important point. None of the phone for the same price no camera, even close similar to G4 camera. The only option may be a Galaxy S7 / S7Edge. But twice the cost (comparing with G4 price) immediately makes to abandon its purchase.
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Ive only had this phone for 1 month and while I was on my bed using the phone when suddenly my phone just powered off by itself and it wouldn't turn back on. Ive tried plugging in the charger but it didnt do anything. I tried to force it on but it didnt do anything. Also, it wouldnt turn on in any way possible.. I suspect that my battery is damaged but im not too sure since I do not know much about smartphone technology and i think its also because that i used the bluetooth function with my car and i noticed that the phone was slightly hotter than usual, maybe this was the case but i dont know. Please help me out here.
Thanks for your time.
Go to the repair shop official if theirs one, unofficial if their isn't. Or contact those you got it from & let them hassle with it. It could be many things from simple battery ribbon to fried SoC... Anyhow even if you got it on wild still in most countries who ever sold it to you must provide one year warranty by the law.
Zola III said:
Go to the repair shop official if theirs one, unofficial if their isn't. Or contact those you got it from & let them hassle with it. It could be many things from simple battery ribbon to fried SoC... Anyhow even if you got it on wild still in most countries who ever sold it to you must provide one year warranty by the law.
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Got it, and mines official so yeah but I had apps such as Blackboard, Chrome and Google Drive on to check on my assignment work and details. SO if I were to get my phone fixed would they still appear in the background to continue the process?
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Got it, and mines official so yeah but I had apps such as Blackboard, Chrome and Google Drive on to check on my assignment work and details. SO if I were to get my phone fixed would they still appear in the background to continue the process?
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What's cloud synced is recoverable regardless. As stated before it depends on what is the case of the problem. Could be a power stripe from battery which is easy & you don't lose any data or in the worst case it could be a main bord socket in which case you do as everything is on it (SoC, RAM, NAND...)...
Hi all. I am baffled as to what happened to my phone. It has no mods and is running stock android 11. It was absolutely fine, not having any issues at all, and I realized I hadn't rebooted it in a few weeks. So, I did a plain old restart.
And it died.
It won't do anything no matter how long I hold the power button down. The battery is fully charged.
Tried to get to the recovery screen by holding down volume up and power, which did nothing. Then I tried vol down and power and got a screen I've not seen before: SS RDX Watchdog Reset.
And here I am stuck. I plugged in a usb cable to my laptop and now there's a device connected on my laptop called msm_upload which I can only see from the windows Bluetooth and other devices panel.
I have no idea what to do from here and I'm desperate.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
did you see this
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote10/comments/k6c4l5
raul6 said:
did you see this
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote10/comments/k6c4l5
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Yes I saw that. If you read the thread, the solution was to "play around with the buttons and it will eventually work." LOL.
mellie815 said:
Yes I saw that. If you read the thread, the solution was to "play around with the buttons and it will eventually work." LOL.
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yes. i thought if it is software issue than it might be timing issues with pressing correct keys combo. possibly wishful thinking. i assume you've seen one other thread on xda with similar issue with no direct resolution. Still try smart switch
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yes. i thought if it is software issue than it might be timing issues with pressing correct keys combo. possibly wishful thinking. i assume you've seen one other thread on xda with similar issue with no direct resolution. Still try smart switch
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I've never used smart switch before. If my pc doesn't see the phone, how would that work? My phone doesn't show up in my laptop except as a Bluetooth device called msm_upload that I can't figure out how to interact with? I guess I'll need to install smart switch on the laptop and hopefully it will see the device?
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I've never used smart switch before. If my pc doesn't see the phone, how would that work? My phone doesn't show up in my laptop except as a Bluetooth device called msm_upload that I can't figure out how to interact with? I guess I'll need to install smart switch on the laptop and hopefully it will see the device?
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That's true and who knows it might work. essentially trying anything to see if it will somehow make a difference. fingers crossed
Watchdog
Very strange.
Sort of sounds like it's bricked.
Play with new firmware/software, win new prizes. I could go on...
You need to navigate to the boot menu somehow. Keep playing with the buttons; sequence and ***timing*** is everything.
If you can drain the battery until it auto shutdown that might get it... much latter.
Disconnect the battery and force a hard reboot.
Otherwise it's repair shop time.
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Watchdog
Very strange.
Sort of sounds like it's bricked.
Play with new firmware/software, win new prizes. I could go on...
You need to navigate to the boot menu somehow. Keep playing with the buttons; sequence and ***timing*** is everything.
If you can drain the battery until it auto shutdown that might get it... much latter.
Disconnect the battery and force a hard reboot.
Otherwise it's repair shop time.
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I went to a repair shop out of desperation. Had to drive over an hour to get to it as I live in the country, and he basically said it's dead. The fun part is, I called my warranty co and of course, they aren't honoring the warranty because "they don't insure phones that cost over $999" which mine did when I got it. But of course, there was nothing that said they didn't cover my phone, which is why I bought their lease/warranty plan.
So, basically, I have a brick that I owe $591 on yet, and they couldn't care less. At this point, I am willing to try anything at all because I have no other options. I already filed a BBB report against them after spending over an hour on the phone with them to no avail.
Any ideas at all would be very helpful at this point.
Also, I CAN still get to that SS RDX Watchdog Reset screen and it will scan an SD card (because I tried it). The problem is, I cannot for my life find a stock Note 10+ ROM anywhere that I can actually download. Wondering if I should just try to throw a custom ROM on it instead? It's obviously not going anywhere otherwise.
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Also, I CAN still get to that SS RDX Watchdog Reset screen and it will scan an SD card (because I tried it). The problem is, I cannot for my life find a stock Note 10+ ROM anywhere that I can actually download. Wondering if I should just try to throw a custom ROM on it instead? It's obviously not going anywhere otherwise.
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There's a stock rom for it, obviously.
If you can degrade to 10, do so.
The boot loader version will dictate if you can or can't.
I'm not experienced enough to advise you on this but that's what might be needed.
Again play with the button sequence/timing and try to get into the boot menu.
Just a slight difference in timing or the wrong sequence and it won't go to the boot menu.
It's not likely but possible the buttons were remapped.
Try taking out the Sim and SD card.
My guess is you can get it to go to the boot menu but until today I never heard of this happening.
A apk timed out because of not rebooting for so long? Don't do that again... at least reboot every couple days.
Malware is another possibility.
Last resort talk/send to Samsung.
Play with it... Androids wuv attention.
I'm having a RIDICULOUS time trying to find a clean copy of stock ROM for my Note. Every single one I've found either ends in a dead link or I download it and it ends up being corrupt. This is no small feat as I live in the middle of nowhere and the only ISP is Hughesnet, which is neither fast, nor unlimited. It literally took me 4 hours to download a 5gb alleged stock ROM only to have it be corrupt.
Isn't there anywhere to get a clean copy of stock??? I see a lot of mods here in XDA, but as far as regular stock SM-N975UI, either I'm totally missing something or there isn't one here.
Can someone please help me find one that is clean? SamMobile's download is limited to 15kbps for non paying members and their copy has been downloading literally since yesterday and is only at 900mb. Living in the country has its perks, but high speed internet isn't one of them. Nothing worse than checking on a download that was running all night to see it say it still has 2 days to go.
mellie815 said:
I'm having a RIDICULOUS time trying to find a clean copy of stock ROM for my Note. Every single one I've found either ends in a dead link or I download it and it ends up being corrupt. This is no small feat as I live in the middle of nowhere and the only ISP is Hughesnet, which is neither fast, nor unlimited. It literally took me 4 hours to download a 5gb alleged stock ROM only to have it be corrupt.
Isn't there anywhere to get a clean copy of stock??? I see a lot of mods here in XDA, but as far as regular stock SM-N975UI, either I'm totally missing something or there isn't one here.
Can someone please help me find one that is clean? SamMobile's download is limited to 15kbps for non paying members and their copy has been downloading literally since yesterday and is only at 900mb. Living in the country has its perks, but high speed internet isn't one of them. Nothing worse than checking on a download that was running all night to see it say it still has 2 days to go.
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You'll need a much faster connection; that slow, that much data, the download has a great chance of being corrupted.
Maybe have a 3rd party download it and send it to you by mail etc. Samsung could... if you could harang them into doing so.
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You'll need a much faster connection; that slow, that much data, the download has a great chance of being corrupted.
Maybe have a 3rd party download it and send it to you by mail etc. Samsung could... if you could harang them into doing so.
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According to the authorized service center I visited yesterday, they don't even have access from Samsung. They are directed to send the phone directly to Samsung, which just floors me. I asked the tech if he could at least flash stock and see if we could get it to load, since I definitely can get to the SD card from Watchdog and it will read it. His reply was nope. I called 2 other repair shops since I was in the city already and got the same story.
Back in the day, rooting Android 4 was easier than this! Do you know of any reputable sites for stock roms? SamMobile is definitely out. And many I've gone to will list my stock, but when you follow the links, the file is no longer available. This feels like a bad X files episode at this point. LOL.
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According to the authorized service center I visited yesterday, they don't even have access from Samsung. They are directed to send the phone directly to Samsung, which just floors me. I asked the tech if he could at least flash stock and see if we could get it to load, since I definitely can get to the SD card from Watchdog and it will read it. His reply was nope. I called 2 other repair shops since I was in the city already and got the same story.
Back in the day, rooting Android 4 was easier than this! Do you know of any reputable sites for stock roms? SamMobile is definitely out. And many I've gone to will list my stock, but when you follow the links, the file is no longer available. This feels like a bad X files episode at this point. LOL.
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Talk, write to Samsung and lean on them.
You'll probably end up sending it in. Take detailed pictures of the phone before boxing it and as boxing it. Double box it and pack/seal it well. Insure the package!
Fight with Samsung if they try to charge you more than $50. Expect trouble... Samsung's tech support is one of the worst on this planet.
Finding stock ROM should not be that difficult, by browsing through the forum, Guides, News & Discussions:
Links to US-firmwares: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/n975u-and-n975u1-firmware-links-here.3957648/
Following thread describes how to download FW using Frija and flashing using Odin: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-25-feb-21-galaxy-note10-sm-n975f-ds.3957812/
There's a YouTube video...,
https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DQe94cBd_fSc&ved=2ahU
He shows you how to fix it. Has FB page "How to Solution"
Check it out
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According to the authorized service center I visited yesterday, they don't even have access from Samsung. They are directed to send the phone directly to Samsung, which just floors me. I asked the tech if he could at least flash stock and see if we could get it to load, since I definitely can get to the SD card from Watchdog and it will read it. His reply was nope. I called 2 other repair shops since I was in the city already and got the same story.
Back in the day, rooting Android 4 was easier than this! Do you know of any reputable sites for stock roms? SamMobile is definitely out. And many I've gone to will list my stock, but when you follow the links, the file is no longer available. This feels like a bad X files episode at this point. LOL.
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Did you ever get this fixed?
I have similar problem. N975u1 stuck in SS Rdx unknown mode. No way to gt to recovery or bootloader
mellie815 said:
I went to a repair shop out of desperation. Had to drive over an hour to get to it as I live in the country, and he basically said it's dead. The fun part is, I called my warranty co and of course, they aren't honoring the warranty because "they don't insure phones that cost over $999" which mine did when I got it. But of course, there was nothing that said they didn't cover my phone, which is why I bought their lease/warranty plan.
So, basically, I have a brick that I owe $591 on yet, and they couldn't care less. At this point, I am willing to try anything at all because I have no other options. I already filed a BBB report against them after spending over an hour on the phone with them to no avail.
Any ideas at all would be very helpful at this point.
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File a complaint with your state attorney general's office.
Against the warranty company and especially the carrier.
Lean on the carrier, verbal breach of contract because the warranty company refused to repair it.
I'd stiff the carrier out of principle. It's likely they wouldn't bother to take it to small claims court.
Before you do that though lean on them like a cheap suit, call, call, call. Talk to their retainment group. Don't give them a moments peace. One time I called Verizon close to 30 times in a week before they finally issues a full credit over a Direct TV breach of contract. If I was you I be seeing red...