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Forgive me if I come off as a complete noob, but it's been awhile and I need a few pointers to get up to speed. A little homework and due diligence now will avoid a lot of aggravation later.
I rooted my 4G (SPH-D700), then installled:
Running Clean GB-1.0.3 (latest is 1.1.2)
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CleanGB-gdaf5649
Modem - EI22
Firmware v2.3.5
ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 CWM4 Based
All old stuff, I know. I stayed with CleanGB because it absolutely rocks. But it's time to upgrade, and a lot has happened since. I'm trying to work out which kernels are compatible with which ROMs, etc.
So, questions:
What is the latest stable version of Android for the Epic 4G? I've seen discussions that say it can run ICS, others that say support stopped at Jellybean.
If ICS is good, I've seen mention that ICS uses more memory, leaving less room for apps. How much less as, say, a percentage?
How do I safely move from CWM4 to the current CWM 10?
What current ROM is closest to the philosophy of CleanGB (solid and stripped of useless crap) and which kernel(s) is/are compatible with it?
I'm reading The People's ROM is a good candidate, but I'm interested in more opinions from people who've assessed several for stability.
DeafScribe said:
Forgive me if I come off as a complete noob, but it's been awhile and I need a few pointers to get up to speed. A little homework and due diligence now will avoid a lot of aggravation later.
I rooted my 4G (SPH-D700), then installled:
Running Clean GB-1.0.3 (latest is 1.1.2)
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CleanGB-gdaf5649
Modem - EI22
Firmware v2.3.5
ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 CWM4 Based
All old stuff, I know. I stayed with CleanGB because it absolutely rocks. But it's time to upgrade, and a lot has happened since. I'm trying to work out which kernels are compatible with which ROMs, etc.
So, questions:
What is the latest stable version of Android for the Epic 4G? I've seen discussions that say it can run ICS, others that say support stopped at Jellybean.
If ICS is good, I've seen mention that ICS uses more memory, leaving less room for apps. How much less as, say, a percentage?
How do I safely move from CWM4 to the current CWM 10?
What current ROM is closest to the philosophy of CleanGB (solid and stripped of useless crap) and which kernel(s) is/are compatible with it?
I'm reading The People's ROM is a good candidate, but I'm interested in more opinions from people who've assessed several for stability.
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Well we have official cyanogen nightlies. CM9(ICS) was kinda dropped when jelly bean came out. CM10 has a stable build. CM10.1 (4.2.2) has official nightlies and a monthly build. That is the most
Up to date versions of android. There are ports of paranoid android, aokp, and more. However most of those require the use of the NS4G modem and patch.
As far as modified stock is concerned, TPR would be my vote. However most new roms have changed from bml to mtd maps with a new yaffs2 filesystem. This was needed as an open source way to change the partition sizes. Data has shrunk a bit to make for a larger system partition (20-30mb). On roms like TPR this isn't needed, but makes switching between other ROMs that need more system space an easy switch.
CM will automatically convert your system to mtd and update to the latest clockworkmod. TPR may do this too, but I think the trick is to flash CM to re partition then flash TPR if you wish.
I've been running CM10.1 lately with little to no problems. Only small issue is Bluetooth is a bit flaky. This is Google's fault for changing the Bluetooth stack on 4.2.2. All that said, read the recent stickies and the ROM thread OP's and you should be fine. One thing... The only way to go back to bml from mtd is to Odin back to stock. Not a big deal, since bml ROMs are almost nonexistent these days.
Hope that gets you started
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BML and MTD
One thing... The only way to go back to bml from mtd is to Odin back to stock. Not a big deal, since bml ROMs are almost nonexistent these days.
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Ok, BML and MTD - this touches on an area of uncertainty. I gather from the CleanGB changelog notes that 1.0.3 runs on MTD.
I checked the CM Wiki walkthrough for installing CM, found it assumes an install from stock and links to a BML version of CWM 5. I can revert back to stock if I have to, but ideally I'd like to minimize steps to minimize the chances of something going haywire. Here's where it gets interesting...
As noted, I have ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 installed. While I was looking at my options today, I installed ROM manager and found it supports CWM 5.0.2.7.
I've created backups using both, but to date I've never needed to recover from a backup. Are they both compatible with MTD? I'd hate to get in a position of having to fall back and find my backups are useless.
If there are no compatibility issues regarding MTD, then I'm good with using CWM 5.0.2.7 to flash CM10.1?
You will have problems with your backups if you go with a CM 10+ rom as changes to the partition sizes make things difficult. Odin may be necessary to go back.
Most of the newer roms have the option to use the Nexus S 4g modem, but it is not a requirement. Some, myself included, get better results over the stock modem.
And don't use ROM Manager. It doesn't always play nice with newer roms on this phone.
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DeafScribe said:
Forgive me if I come off as a complete noob, but it's been awhile and I need a few pointers to get up to speed. A little homework and due diligence now will avoid a lot of aggravation later.
I rooted my 4G (SPH-D700), then installled:
Running Clean GB-1.0.3 (latest is 1.1.2)
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CleanGB-gdaf5649
Modem - EI22
Firmware v2.3.5
ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 CWM4 Based
All old stuff, I know. I stayed with CleanGB because it absolutely rocks. But it's time to upgrade, and a lot has happened since. I'm trying to work out which kernels are compatible with which ROMs, etc.
So, questions:
What is the latest stable version of Android for the Epic 4G? I've seen discussions that say it can run ICS, others that say support stopped at Jellybean.
If ICS is good, I've seen mention that ICS uses more memory, leaving less room for apps. How much less as, say, a percentage?
How do I safely move from CWM4 to the current CWM 10?
What current ROM is closest to the philosophy of CleanGB (solid and stripped of useless crap) and which kernel(s) is/are compatible with it?
I'm reading The People's ROM is a good candidate, but I'm interested in more opinions from people who've assessed several for stability.
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try this out it is very stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187798
I also have roms that blow your mind like Pac-man rom
i also have paranoid android v3.10 which is obsolete but it requires ns4g modem
None of my roms are ported pm me for more info
Many people have a similar situation where you are wondering if you should keep stock or install a custom ROM on relative's phone, who is not a technical person.
I am wondering if it is better to keep the latest stock Android 4.3 on the Nexus (European version) or if I should upgrade it to a very stable almost stock custom ROM?
I will only be able to provide "maintenance" every 2 months.
My main goal of installing a custom ROM would be to keep it updated with the latest security patches, not so much to have the latest version of android running.
Is it so bad to keep 4.3 running on a phone when its user doesn't really need 4.4 or higher feature?
As you said, custom roms are more updated on security patches. Another reason that custom rom is better, is the additttional features offering. I have installed on many friends of mine custom roms without having any issues. On the contrary, if they change smartphone, they are seeking for those features on their new phone. When they realize that those features were custom things, they disappointed. The most custom roms have less bugs than the official build.
I would definitely recommend to flash custom ROM to your Nexus.
Our phone is really good maintained by our developers, so you can choose from many custom ROMs.
They will provide you more performace, better battery life and some nice features, that stock ROM can't offer you.
My personal option is the CM11 with custom kernel (Fancy, Franco or any other).
Don't try Lollipop ROMs now, because they are still unstable and have some bugs.
I had the same questions. Now though, after actually using a custom ROM I can confidently say that custom ROMs are the way to go.
The Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for custom ROMs. They keep us updated to the latest android versions and not only that, but the features they add become essential to how you use your device.
And you're blessed to have a Galaxy Nexus. It's so easy to install custom ROMs on nexus devices.
Now that I've used them, I can't use my phone without them.
@leto78
I say go for it! Just make sure you evaluate the knowledge/needs of the end user first, and let that guide your choice.
Example 1 - you're looking for a ROM for a not-very-tech-savvy user, so you need it to be as stable and problem-free as possible. You'd probably be best served by a 4.4 ROM that's been out for a while and has a long development/history of improvement.
Example 2 - your end user is reasonably tech-savvy, knows their way around Android and knows about the different versions, and also knows not to freak out or call you yelling "you broke my phone!" if there is an issue. In this case, check the known issues/bug reports for the 5.0-based ROMs and pick one with the fewest "daily driver" related issues.
I agree with use of an aftermarket ROM just due to the frequent updates and security fixes the stock ROM isn't getting. All the aftermarket ROM's I've tried are solid for stability. If you want to stick with stock, I do recommend rooting it to address a couple bugs.
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Hello - I just flashed CM13 on my nexus 5x. It's working quite well, but I'm wondering two things:
1) when there are Android OTA updates, will I get them? Will I have to reflash a newer build of CM?
2) Is CM regarded as one of, if not the most stable, developed ROM in general? I realize that may be a bit of an opinionated question, but I'll take the chance that it's not, and that it has a fairly clear answer.
Thanks!
First of all, this thread belongs to Q/A section. Not Android Development section.
Secondly, CM has an updater app, that downloads latest nightlies upon ur choice and you can
move them from data partition to internal storage. Then boot to recovery and dirty flash them.
Unless there are huge changes from one nightly to another, you can just dirty flash (no wipes).
If u are using any addons, like gapps, kernels etc, you have to flash them again, after new cm build.
As for stability, you have to flash the rom , use it and decide for yourself.
A quick search could have been usefull. Have a look at this thread ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/official-cyanogenmod-13-released-t3256254
Hope this helps.
And please request moderator to move this thread to q/a section. cheers.
Wrong section. This should go in Q&A.
1. You will not get official OTAs. CM releases their own updates.
2. In my experience CM based ROMs for the 5X have been buggy compared to stock and AOSP based ROMs.
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I also would not recommend CM at this point in time. It runs like crap compared to stock or AOSP based ROMs for me. I gave it a fair shake and ran it for a couple weeks, but since flashing to Pure Nexus last week I've noticed a huge difference in how my device performs.
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Back to stock baby. Sorry for putting this in the wrong category by the way. I'm not really a power user, I just figured flashing CM would improve the performance of my phone. I love incredible performance in a phone, computer, or whatever. But, ultimately, I just ran this dog back to stock using instructions I found here!
Thanks all. I appreciate the input!
stock is great, but I'd have to say my favorite rom has been PureNexus, since it's stock stable but with added features.
this compared to CM, OxygenOS, and stock Android M
Dear All,
I'm looking for stable custom rom (if possible lollipop/marshmallow) for my e988 4g KitKat device, especially that can save battery usage. Do you guys have any refference?
There are so many custom rom but i'm difficult to find the plus and minus side of those rom.
Ive been looking to cm site, but unfortunately they are not available anymore
Thankyou
Look, most AOSP ROMs have same issues: camera crashes, bluetooth connection problems etc. etc. Everything else is pretty much same. People were mostly using SlimLP and Carbon, some used Bliss but I think there is no download link for it. Slim and Carbon use a bit more customizable kernel (dave used my kernel for as long as he built Carbon, and SlimLP has just a bit newer version of it, with GPU issues fixed completely).
My choices were Slim and (later, after Slim stopped updating their Lollipop sources) PAC (built for personal needs, no uploads) so if you want AOSP, go with SlimLP or Carbon. Carbon was working nicely too, and last time I had Bliss installed was somewhere after Lollipop just started, so can't judge how last versions worked.
If any of this is not good enough, try any of these stock roms, if any still available. I can't recommend anything from there simply because I never wanted to use those - if stock was that good, I'd stay on it
P.S. This device never received Marshmallow updates due to insane amount of work someone had to provide. I had few attempts but never moved over some issues with modem. More in the forums...
Thank you for the explanation, i will look more for Carbon in Android Development threads.
I've been using this daily: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70801465&postcount=720
ssurell said:
I've been using this daily: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70801465&postcount=720
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Still fail to flash carbon from 4.4.2 base..
How about slim lp,bliss pop, and over 2.1?
ShadySquirrel said:
Look, most AOSP ROMs have same issues: camera crashes, bluetooth connection problems etc. etc. Everything else is pretty much same. People were mostly using SlimLP and Carbon, some used Bliss but I think there is no download link for it. Slim and Carbon use a bit more customizable kernel (dave used my kernel for as long as he built Carbon, and SlimLP has just a bit newer version of it, with GPU issues fixed completely).
My choices were Slim and (later, after Slim stopped updating their Lollipop sources) PAC (built for personal needs, no uploads) so if you want AOSP, go with SlimLP or Carbon. Carbon was working nicely too, and last time I had Bliss installed was somewhere after Lollipop just started, so can't judge how last versions worked.
If any of this is not good enough, try any of these stock roms, if any still available. I can't recommend anything from there simply because I never wanted to use those - if stock was that good, I'd stay on it
P.S. This device never received Marshmallow updates due to insane amount of work someone had to provide. I had few attempts but never moved over some issues with modem. More in the forums...
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Were there any MM kernels ever compiled that you know of? Could someone with enough time and work be able to successfully compile a working rom? A bit of a developing noob, but have two E980s and plenty of time on my hands.
saintbump said:
Were there any MM kernels ever compiled that you know of? Could someone with enough time and work be able to successfully compile a working rom? A bit of a developing noob, but have two E980s and plenty of time on my hands.
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Yes, mine I was probably only one who worked on Marshmallow, but sources are now long gone, drive I've kept my repo is dead and I haven't uploaded that anywhere.
I've been using Carbon KK for several months and it is very stable and smooth. I've never used MM so not sure how it compares, but it has all the features I need to keep using this phone every day.
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Resurrection Remix 5.5.9 + WildKernel works quite good for me on E986
https://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-g-pro/development/rom-resurrection-remix-lp-v5-5-8-t3237570
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/op...rnel-wildkernel-build-1-featurlicous-t3069629
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
If you are happy with stock, why change it??
I use custom ROM just for ease of theming. And some shuttle customisations.
Lineage OS does not include theming, so i won't go for it. If you want to experiment, try something with OMS7 theming baked in. My daily driver is ABC ROM.
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
tobir97 said:
Dear folks,
a few months ago I brought my Nexus 5x and consigering that I was using my Samsung Galaxy S3 before a new world opened for me instantly. Now I have the Android version on my phone that is current right now actually. I have a clean user interface to interact with and the most satisfying point is that I am not forced to use my phone with such an amount of bloatware as it was the case with samsung.
In the past I used my GS3 only with custom roms like cynaogenmod (R.I.P.) because of this ugly and laggy touchwiz. With this way I was able to consume the new android versions aswell and profit from the pure stock android experience I newer was allowed to consume with samsungs software trash.
Now I owned my N5x and things changed. Now it is self-evident, that I can experience stock android. My device doesn't lag with any task anymmore and I got not too much unnecessary apps preinstalled. Well I rooted my device and finally got the best android experience since I use smartphones. No more wishes unfulfilled.
That got me thinking...
I really loved the fact, that I was able to flash any rom on my previous phone that I wanted to and I was not willing to use my phone without these. But now when I got my nexus I do not see the advantages of custom roms anymore.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get stock android.
I do not need to flash a custom rom to get the newest android version. The opposite is even the case since the nexus devices get every update first.
Thank to the community behind the nexus series even the additional features of some custom roms aren't an argument anymore considering the fact, that most features came out as a flashable zip file for the stock roms or I use substratum or xposed (when it finally arrives in nougat :angel: ).
So I considered wether I should give lineage OS for the N5x a try or not and I do not see the point why I should flash it. I would not get anything in addition, that I miss now I guess.
So what du you think, guys? Are android custom roms still worth it? Why should I flash a custom rom? Why do you do it? Let me know in the comments.
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1st mate welcome to stock community of android, that happen when you buy a nexus(pixel now) , stock rom is perfect!! i change time to time roms, now i use stock/lockbooloader. there 2 reasons,well if you like more..... the are 2 tipes of ppl...
lets start form the basic.
1) why you pick a nexus? the most classic answer to this is.... cose i like the stock experience(true that is great) and cose is the only devices that take 1st and fastest updates for 2 years(true that too )
2) and now comes the question. sould i root my nexus? and why i do this, the phone feels great, is fast and not lag at all.
the answer to this is cose with an unlockbootloader a new world opens to custom roms,kernels,mods/apks/themes. yes the icons and feels is more or less the same... but is not the same 100%!!
so in your case think what realy you want from a custom rom before you unlock the bootloader, the reason that some times i root my nexus is 3....1)cose i like to have a tone of customaze in settings/nav bars/themes etc 2) i like the daily or weekly updates God i love the icon in notification bar when i see it LOL.. 2)and finally some better battery life with a custom kernel!!
so next time think what you want from a custom rom!!
i have test a lot of them!!
if you like customized settings etc LOS(lineage os) is not good! los is stable/daily rom with daily updates/support with some extras in settings but not big deal, is close to stock when it comes to customized!!
full customazed roms and good for daily use is DIRTY UNICORNS D.U // RESURACTION REMIX A.K.A RR // TESLA,VALIDUS ROMS // BLISS ROM // AND OFC PURE NEXUS P.N
but other roms like android ice cold project a.k.a A.I.C.P and Mokee rom is good fast or daily support updates.
p.s sry for my bad english!! i hope to help you!
crazyates said:
I used the stock ROM for a very long time, and was very happy with it. In fact, switching to a custom ROM saw very little difference, esp in look/feel of the OS. You are absolutely right that the main reasons for a custom ROM are negated by the fact that we're running a stock android that gets updated very frequently.
That said, I will say that after using a custom ROM/kernel, I don't really want to go back to stock. I could if I need to, and would work fine, but there are a number of small things that I am using that I really like. I get MUCH better battery life on a rooted ROM with kernel. I can set up custom profiles for doing what I need to do, when I need to do it. Some of the Magisk camera modules for these are great, and recording video is much better (60fps with EIS). I also don't like having my /data encrypted, as I feel like it slows the phone down for no reason.
So yeah, stock is fantastic, but there are small things that do make it worth it.
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You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
I wrote this question for my pixel last week. It's probably bc I've been flashing for a long time but it's nice when things work correctly which sometimes doesn't happen with custom ROMs. For me I've been happy with stock but with a custom kernel and root. I still use root and a customer kernel cleans up the performance but stock rom is good for me.
Javi22 said:
You cant use custom kernel on stock rom? or mods like the 60 fps recording? I thought you could
I always use custom roms because of the personalization. Not themes but features, some of them are great. Also updating is so easy just download zip and flash from recovery.
Stock rom OTAs encrypt data and install stock recovery and I dont like that, also It is said custom roms are smoother. I still have to try pixel rom though, which is based on stock rom
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I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
crazyates said:
I think you mis-read what I meant earlier, or (more probably) I wasn't clear. When I meant "stock", I meant 100% stock, meaning stock ROM, stock kernel, locked bootloader, no root, etc.
If you used a stock ROM with a custom kernel and Magisk, you could get a lot of those same things, I'm sure. There are still small reasons why I like Pure Nexus ROM, tho, like the battery bar tweaks (removing the icon and having a thin bar on the top), night mode, the Pixel launcher, etc. Plus, I don't have to have the FULL gapps suite, I can only have what I want installed.
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Ok ok then, I understand now haha, I might miss read no problem
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Coming from flashing ROMs and kernels on an HTC EVO, Galaxy S2, S3, and S5, it was nice to finally be on stock and not feel the need to do it anymore. I was going to after a few months but updates really improved the experience for me compared to it's original release.
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I won't buy a phone that doesn't have the ability to run custom roms. Particularly, CM / Lineage. So for example, the Pixel is out.
1. I get to choose what starts up with during boot up.
2. I get to stop unnecessary apps from running in the background. Guess what I don't want an app running if I don't have it open. Turns out my wife doesn't either for most of her apps. Do you need apps chew through mobile data or tracking your every move even though you don't have them open?
3. I block many apps from data / wifi entirely. They can't load junk like ads, phone home etc.
4. I easily block various applications from my data, as needed. A game does not need access to my contacts, etc.
5. There is still a lot of customization that can be done in the custom roms in regards to layout and such that is not in stock roms.
I realize that some of those things can be done in the stock ROM once you are rooted, or there are work around ways to do sort of do these in other ways without root, however many those are just some of the things I can list off the top of my head that you can only sort of do or only partially do in stock form.
(It's been a long time since I've run a stock ROM, so let me know if it's changed, I could be off base?)
We're not talking kernels, but once you starting tweaking the kernel, plus keep all the crap from running in the background you can get decent battery life out of this phone.