Forgive me if I come off as a complete noob, but it's been awhile and I need a few pointers to get up to speed. A little homework and due diligence now will avoid a lot of aggravation later.
I rooted my 4G (SPH-D700), then installled:
Running Clean GB-1.0.3 (latest is 1.1.2)
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CleanGB-gdaf5649
Modem - EI22
Firmware v2.3.5
ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 CWM4 Based
All old stuff, I know. I stayed with CleanGB because it absolutely rocks. But it's time to upgrade, and a lot has happened since. I'm trying to work out which kernels are compatible with which ROMs, etc.
So, questions:
What is the latest stable version of Android for the Epic 4G? I've seen discussions that say it can run ICS, others that say support stopped at Jellybean.
If ICS is good, I've seen mention that ICS uses more memory, leaving less room for apps. How much less as, say, a percentage?
How do I safely move from CWM4 to the current CWM 10?
What current ROM is closest to the philosophy of CleanGB (solid and stripped of useless crap) and which kernel(s) is/are compatible with it?
I'm reading The People's ROM is a good candidate, but I'm interested in more opinions from people who've assessed several for stability.
DeafScribe said:
Forgive me if I come off as a complete noob, but it's been awhile and I need a few pointers to get up to speed. A little homework and due diligence now will avoid a lot of aggravation later.
I rooted my 4G (SPH-D700), then installled:
Running Clean GB-1.0.3 (latest is 1.1.2)
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CleanGB-gdaf5649
Modem - EI22
Firmware v2.3.5
ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 CWM4 Based
All old stuff, I know. I stayed with CleanGB because it absolutely rocks. But it's time to upgrade, and a lot has happened since. I'm trying to work out which kernels are compatible with which ROMs, etc.
So, questions:
What is the latest stable version of Android for the Epic 4G? I've seen discussions that say it can run ICS, others that say support stopped at Jellybean.
If ICS is good, I've seen mention that ICS uses more memory, leaving less room for apps. How much less as, say, a percentage?
How do I safely move from CWM4 to the current CWM 10?
What current ROM is closest to the philosophy of CleanGB (solid and stripped of useless crap) and which kernel(s) is/are compatible with it?
I'm reading The People's ROM is a good candidate, but I'm interested in more opinions from people who've assessed several for stability.
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Well we have official cyanogen nightlies. CM9(ICS) was kinda dropped when jelly bean came out. CM10 has a stable build. CM10.1 (4.2.2) has official nightlies and a monthly build. That is the most
Up to date versions of android. There are ports of paranoid android, aokp, and more. However most of those require the use of the NS4G modem and patch.
As far as modified stock is concerned, TPR would be my vote. However most new roms have changed from bml to mtd maps with a new yaffs2 filesystem. This was needed as an open source way to change the partition sizes. Data has shrunk a bit to make for a larger system partition (20-30mb). On roms like TPR this isn't needed, but makes switching between other ROMs that need more system space an easy switch.
CM will automatically convert your system to mtd and update to the latest clockworkmod. TPR may do this too, but I think the trick is to flash CM to re partition then flash TPR if you wish.
I've been running CM10.1 lately with little to no problems. Only small issue is Bluetooth is a bit flaky. This is Google's fault for changing the Bluetooth stack on 4.2.2. All that said, read the recent stickies and the ROM thread OP's and you should be fine. One thing... The only way to go back to bml from mtd is to Odin back to stock. Not a big deal, since bml ROMs are almost nonexistent these days.
Hope that gets you started
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BML and MTD
One thing... The only way to go back to bml from mtd is to Odin back to stock. Not a big deal, since bml ROMs are almost nonexistent these days.
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Ok, BML and MTD - this touches on an area of uncertainty. I gather from the CleanGB changelog notes that 1.0.3 runs on MTD.
I checked the CM Wiki walkthrough for installing CM, found it assumes an install from stock and links to a BML version of CWM 5. I can revert back to stock if I have to, but ideally I'd like to minimize steps to minimize the chances of something going haywire. Here's where it gets interesting...
As noted, I have ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 installed. While I was looking at my options today, I installed ROM manager and found it supports CWM 5.0.2.7.
I've created backups using both, but to date I've never needed to recover from a backup. Are they both compatible with MTD? I'd hate to get in a position of having to fall back and find my backups are useless.
If there are no compatibility issues regarding MTD, then I'm good with using CWM 5.0.2.7 to flash CM10.1?
You will have problems with your backups if you go with a CM 10+ rom as changes to the partition sizes make things difficult. Odin may be necessary to go back.
Most of the newer roms have the option to use the Nexus S 4g modem, but it is not a requirement. Some, myself included, get better results over the stock modem.
And don't use ROM Manager. It doesn't always play nice with newer roms on this phone.
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DeafScribe said:
Forgive me if I come off as a complete noob, but it's been awhile and I need a few pointers to get up to speed. A little homework and due diligence now will avoid a lot of aggravation later.
I rooted my 4G (SPH-D700), then installled:
Running Clean GB-1.0.3 (latest is 1.1.2)
Kernel version 2.6.35.7-CleanGB-gdaf5649
Modem - EI22
Firmware v2.3.5
ACSRecovery v1.0.0.5 CWM4 Based
All old stuff, I know. I stayed with CleanGB because it absolutely rocks. But it's time to upgrade, and a lot has happened since. I'm trying to work out which kernels are compatible with which ROMs, etc.
So, questions:
What is the latest stable version of Android for the Epic 4G? I've seen discussions that say it can run ICS, others that say support stopped at Jellybean.
If ICS is good, I've seen mention that ICS uses more memory, leaving less room for apps. How much less as, say, a percentage?
How do I safely move from CWM4 to the current CWM 10?
What current ROM is closest to the philosophy of CleanGB (solid and stripped of useless crap) and which kernel(s) is/are compatible with it?
I'm reading The People's ROM is a good candidate, but I'm interested in more opinions from people who've assessed several for stability.
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try this out it is very stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187798
I also have roms that blow your mind like Pac-man rom
i also have paranoid android v3.10 which is obsolete but it requires ns4g modem
None of my roms are ported pm me for more info
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So far I have tried unrEVOked and AVA-FROYO V10.
unrEVOked is little bit behind on latest kernels and is stuffed with Sprint garbage. It did have great battery life with 4G and WiFi enabled (12 hours for me).
AVA-FROYO V10 was OK, very little Sprint crap... but battery life on it was extremely unpredictable (from 4 hours to 12 with cell standby chewing up most).
Unfortunately the latest radio update messed it up and now I need to reflash everything, so might as well look at other roots.
Myn
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Do you mean ROM?
WRONG SECTION !
unrEVOked and kernels ? LOL
I am sure they will move it to the right section.
Yeah, you are right, I did mean ROM. Had a massive brain cramp, so I called it a root
Re. unrEVOked, hey, I had to start somewhere
Cyanogen..... soon
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I didn't have the best luck with AVA V10, but V9 has incredible battery life. Here is a link:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/kqCqyssL/Ava_Roms.html
Whichever ROM you download, you can open the zip (don't extract), go to system>apps and delete any apks you don't want it to install when you flash it. Of course, make sure you know what apks you are removing first so you don't get problems later and have to end up re-downloading/re-flashing your phone.
unrEVOked is not a ROM, nor a kernel, and has nothing to do with battery life. Other than the superuser app showing up, it should not affect anything at all. It's a rooting process, specifically intended to unlock your NAND (S-Off, visible in the bootloader).
Popular ROM options are Fresh, MIUI, CyanogenMod. Fresh has fully working WiMax. CM is close. Don't know about MIUI, but it's probably not packing working 4G. None of them have any of the Sprint apps by default.
You can bake your own Fresh ROM with whatever you want included. CM doesn't even include the Google Apps by default (you can add them easily), so it's even trimmer.
Once you are fully rooted, and familiar with the nandroid backup process (and Titanium Backup), you can switch between ROMs fairly easily and make your own decisions.
To get started, root and then flash Fresh. Actually, wait a few days (but don't accept the current OTA if you haven't already), and install Fresh once it's been updated. Because it's based on stock with Sense, you can probably flash without clearing your data (DO clear your caches) and get off to a quick start.
Yeah, I am still learning this rooting process. I have very little time available for playing around a bit and no way in hell am I going to use time of my devs in the office. Hence me doing it the lazy way - asking you which ROM is the best for my needs and then flashing and forgetting it.
BTW, thanks for the advice so far. Saving me a lot of time!
MYNs is popular or if you want a stock one, I suggest looking at the ReEngineered Stock ROM that aamikam made. He spent alot of time fixing up the apks so that they are smaller in size and speeds up the ROM.
i would just find a rom that you like and run with it. the rom itself shouldn't make THAT much difference. from what i have seen, its your kernel that really makes the difference in batter-life and performance. Most of the bloat-ware in the majority of these roms can be removed pretty easily.
Myn has some great stuff for ROMS. Ava V10 (if you have bad battery, try a different kernel)
Here are my 3 fav Kernels:
Hero's Laptop Kernel (all i have to say is WOW)
Net's 4.2 or 4.1
King's CFS
ROMs:
Sense: Calk's or Myn's or for a pure stock feel try ReEngineered 3.70.651.1.
AOSP: Cyanogen Mod (No Contest)
Kernels:
I always stick with Stock on all the ROMs I have tried.
Have fun flashing man.
Try Azael X its very fast very little no bloat and stable 4G plus battery life is great he will update to 3.70 soon he's working on it now Rick is very picky about letting his roms out with bugs so he tests and tests before release
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Yeah, I am still learning this rooting process. I have very little time available for playing around a bit and no way in hell am I going to use time of my devs in the office. Hence me doing it the lazy way - asking you which ROM is the best for my needs and then flashing and forgetting it.
BTW, thanks for the advice so far. Saving me a lot of time!
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Simply put;
Myn Warm (Sense)
CM (non Sense)
ROM: Azrael X, myn warm, baked snacks
kernel: ziggy dec5, baked laptop, net 4.2
Battery life:
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Using Azrael X latest and ziggy dec5
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Where did you download your ziggy dec5 kernel?
groovyipo said:
Where did you download your ziggy dec5 kernel?
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Ziggy471.com
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Now I am just pondering what are the major advantages of switching out stock kernel on Azreal X v.2.1 to Ziggy?
Sorry in advance for the noob question but I am new to this forum, and to Android in general. I recently Upgraded to DK28 using Odin on my Epic. I was wondering if there were any specific community roms which are better than dk28, and if so, which ones are they and what features do they have which the dk28 doesn't offer, and how stable are they? Which ones do you recommend?
Thanks.
Most ROMs now re based on DK28. Read some of the ROM threads for info... I recommend researching CWM3 and ext4,this may be needed on some ROMs...
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Get nebula 1.0.7 its as stable as it gets. And its based off the dk28 modem. Stock dk28 isn't that geat so throw a custom rom over it and have fun!
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Is there any ROM which includes an alternate place to get APPS, similar to the Iphone's Cydia? For a non-programmer whos lookin for a overall 'cool yet stable' rom, which one do you recommend? Does the installation of the ROM delete any information from the phone (contacts, apps, etc)? And can the ROM be uninstalled?
Going with the stock dk28 is a good first choice. As far as I know there aren't any repositories like cydia for Android. That is due to the fact that you can already install unsigned apps in your stock android os.
Number one thing to do right now is READ. The threads are very long, so maybe read the first few pages, and last few pages of the long ones. Usually the first few posts are new updates to the thread, and the last posts discuss the most recent happenings and general discussion of the current version of those roms. Reading the stuff inbetween can be helpful to know how far each rom has come since inception, but its usually irrelevant and you can skip over it.
I've used cyanogen for another handset and I thought it was very well polished. I really like the ACS Syndicate rom. Although its 2.1, I liked it more than stock dk28 2.2. Im currently on bonsai4all, which requires you to format your phone into ext4. Its another step beyond just rooting and booting an OS, but its really fast and stable. I've also used Viper rom. There is a good version which is dual boot (ext4, and RFS), and I was using that before going with bonsai. I would give a strong recommendation between those two.
I can't really see anything getting that much better than bonsai. I wont say its the best, but i'm very impressed. I can say I look forward to seeing Syndicate rom once it gets to 2.2 (they are waiting for official 2.2 source) and also cyanogen 6.2 or better yet 7 (non betas).
Lastly, if you see the words Beta, please dont ask "how stable is it?" Its a beta version and not designed for a daily use. Some betas are very polished and nearly complete, but remember it's still just a beta. hope this helps
In my opinion bonsai rom is the most stable and a new release is getting ready to be released. I'm on eof the beta testers for the new release and its getting.ready.to be released.
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I am interested in running some ROM's on my galaxy nexus but I have a few questions:
I am looking at Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast 4.1 ROM, I know that he does nightly builds, so my question being: If I install a build today, and he releases a nightly tomorrow or an upgrade, do I have to completely wipe and reflash the build nightly in order for it to stay up to date? Or is there a way to just update the build without losing everything.
Are ROM's safe? I know that they say to stay away from things like this but I feel like I can get the most out of my device by using a custom ROM.
If I don't go with a bugless beast ROM I am looking for something that is AS CLOSE to stock as possible, no added bloatware, I don't need all the fancy menu tweaks, custom kernals (which I guess I just dont understand exactly what a custom kernal does)
Any comments would be appreciated.
You can dirty flash them (flash it directly without wiping) and most of the time it will work without issues. If it doesn't then you will have to wipe then reflash.
ROMs are perfectly safe, and it's pretty hard to actually brick your phone. I'd say that custom ROMs offer customisation more than anything else but that's probably me.
Cyanogenmod is very well known in the community (and is rock solid) as well as AOKP (offers much more customisability at the moment).
Custom roms can help extend the life of a device. I know that I would have gotten tired of my previous phone, the Samsung Captivate, a lot sooner than I did if I hadn't flashed ICS onto it. Roms are completely safe. You just want to make sure you read up on how to fix a boot loop, or soft brick if you do end up in the situation. Make backups, have a plan B set and flash away. Definitely don't just go flashing stuff haphazardly, that's how you can mess up your phone.
You don't have to wipe when flashing nightlies on the same ROM. You don't lose data, its just like an update ota. you only have to wipe when switching between different ROMs.
Roms= 100% better than stock
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A little advice...keep more than one ROM on your SD card just in case.
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Keys2bonez said:
I am interested in running some ROM's on my galaxy nexus but I have a few questions:
I am looking at Peter Alfonso's Bugless Beast 4.1 ROM, I know that he does nightly builds, so my question being: If I install a build today, and he releases a nightly tomorrow or an upgrade, do I have to completely wipe and reflash the build nightly in order for it to stay up to date? Or is there a way to just update the build without losing everything.
Are ROM's safe? I know that they say to stay away from things like this but I feel like I can get the most out of my device by using a custom ROM.
If I don't go with a bugless beast ROM I am looking for something that is AS CLOSE to stock as possible, no added bloatware, I don't need all the fancy menu tweaks, custom kernals (which I guess I just dont understand exactly what a custom kernal does)
Any comments would be appreciated.
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As a few others said, you don't have to wipe switching between nightly builds. To flash the next version of BB, just clear cache & dalvik.
Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums but I've been looking into custom ROMs for some time already.
I'd like to tell you that I'm extremely dumb when it comes to things like Kernel, even though I understand a bit of these, I have lots of questions, keeping with that example, if I flash a CM9 Kernel, when I restore an old backup (where I used the Stock phone, for instance), what happens to that Kernel? Is it erased and the Kernel is back to my Stock?
But well, let's get the thread specifically where I want, the custom ROMs.
As previously said, I'm stupidly new to these things, but I decided to gamble on my luck and flash a CM9 Quarx nightly some days ago (can't remember from where I got that one, sorry), but I experienced some problems, like a small lag (yeah, I didn't really like the speed, compared to my stock) and an awful battery problem, where two battery fixes didn't work, and, then, with my heart desolated like a dragon's breath on corn fields, I restored the stock backup I made before doing that.
Ah yeah, I forgot to mention that my Defy+ came with a 2.3.4 version of the OS, just to let you guys know.
So, after that, seeking for more candy to my eyes (Jesus, I loved the settings and stuff from that ROM!), I sailed my boat to the famous WhiteRabbit 1.6, which I must admit, I LOVED it. But as I said, LOV"ED", until I started to face a giant tide... My phone was constantly freezing for long periods (something between 4 and 6 minutes, usually), something of which made my phone quite unusuable and unstable. With tears in my eyes, listening to Beethoven's 1st move of Moonlight Sonata (on the PC...), I decided to restore that old - 2-day old actually - backup to Stock again.
Now I just noticed that I don't like Stock anymore, I can't stand the limitations in comparison to the other two ROMs I used, and I want more! I want some stable ROM, and with "stable" I really mean something stable: a ROM that won't freeze, that has the basic stuff working, a good-looking UI, with fast and smooth scrolling, with a fix for the battery error (if there is the error on the ROM... which I'm quite sure will have), and that gives me more than the Stock would.
I've been looking at that MIUI Pikachu Edition and I really want to try it out, so, should I go on with it? Or do you guys recommend me something else? Another thing that I forgot to say is that I don't really feel like downgrading my Kernel nor putting my phone into a knight's blade way.
Yup, my device is Rooted and has a Boot Manager that I got on some brazillian forums, everything works as I guess they should do.
Sorry for the wall of text and before anything, thanks in advance!
Hey, mate
MIUI Pikachu Edition was the ROM I used absolutely the longest, almost two months without switching to anything else. I must admit that was the time I was constantly satisfied with my phone, but then CM9 became stable and I switched to it and then I simply couldn't go back to any Gingerbread ROM as the new features (mostly the looks ) of ICS were just too good Soon CM10 showed up and I've been with it since the first nightly.
So, yes, I think you should try Pikachu, but for it you need to flash "bl6 Froyo", because it's built for Froyo kernel only. (You cannot flash those flashable kernel zips! They are meant for the standard DEFY only. They are signed as bl5 and if you were to flash one of those, you would end up with a bootloader error, so you would have to flash the 2.3.4 sbf to get your phone back up and running...)
Other than that, CM10 is pretty much the way to go, if you ask me. Yes, it might take some time to load an app or another, but it's the most advanced ROM for the DEFY(+) so far and Jelly Bean really is the best Android version up to date. Quarx's latest nightly is the best version at the moment - the one from two days ago (September 12th). (Paranoid Android and AOKP are both based on Quarx's work, at least our (DEFY) versions)
The third choice for me would be MIUI 4.1, the one based on Jelly Bean. MIUI v4 was a nice step forward when it comes to looks, but it was two steps back when it comes to performance. v4.1 is a much better performer, but work on it has just started, so it'll take a couple of versions to polish it a bit. If you try and like Pikachu I guess you should follow Wajk's WIUI Jelly Bean progress and switch to it when you find it good enough for you
P.S. If it happens that you like Gingerbread more than Jelly Bean for whatever reason and don't like MIUI, FuZZ's CM7 KANG's were always the best for me :good:
I'd say that depends on how you want to handle your phone. If you want to just install a custom ROM once and then stick with it I can recommend CM 7.2, I had that for like half a year and everything worked nicely. It also offers lots of extra features and customization.
If you want the newest Android version I can second the above notion, try CM10 by Quarx. its a great ROM, and even though it is still work in Progress everything you need is working. This might mean that you want to update your ROM every once in a while to get the newest build and features, but this can be done easily through an app from within CM10.
As you have a Defy+ you wont need to flash any Kernel for the above, just pick the correct (Defy+) Version.
use CM10 its stable & works fine on defy+
Because of the controversy and arguments they inevitably generate, "best ROM" threads are prohibited on XDA. Thread closed.
Hello all. First I want to thank everyone for still being around to help, especially on such an old device.
Anyway, I recently bought one of these and got it rooted via odin. Currently that's all I've done to her. I have been looking over this forum, android forums, and Google in general prior to posting, I want to solve problems on my own, but when I can't, I'm not scared to ask for help. And I need help with a few issues. I will seperate them, to make answering them easier.
1) is twrp not available for this model?
2) if not, the only other recoverys I can find is Phils TouchWiz, and ClockworkMod recovery touch 5.8.1.5. I wouldn't think these are the same, which is suggested? Also Phils Touchwiz was last updated (that I can find) to 4.1.2 which is where I currently am, am I want to go to 4.4
3) I only see 2 ROMs listed on here, and 1 is one of the ones I was thinking of using in Dirty Unicorns. The other I was thinking about was CyanogenMod. Which of these two is suggested?
4) I have no service on this phone, as its my tinkering device. The only thing I need to work is WiFi. That being said, do I need to flash a new modem?
Do I need to flash a new kernel?
Thanks for any help you can throw me. I know there are lots of tuts for all these questions, but frankly they are all very old, and this stuff changes by the day...
1. Yes but this device has recovery and kernel built in together, this recovery is only for flashing / wiping, other than that, it is not usable with other custom roms unless the devs build it to use that
recovery along with the kernel.
2. It's the same as question 1, For Touchwiz Jellybean, you'll need a recovery kernel that supports the android version and firmware, otherwise it wouldn't work or boot up, Agat's Source GB27 for GB27 Touchwiz ROMs. Or specific AOSP Kernels for certain kernel build updates ( versions are compatible with the build date of the ROM's Original Kernel, meaning it only works on certain ROMs that are updated with the same kernel build, for example, A custom 0.0.25 will not work with stock 0.0.26 because there was a major update change in the kernel that'll make 0.0.25 not usable on it. If you use a kernel based on a specific date on an AOSP ROM that frequently updates the kernel, it may not boot up. )
3. The AOSP ROMs that are being updated at the moment are the Teams that do Nightlies. So Cyanogenmod is the only AOSP ROM that's being updated weekly for this device, I have not checked on the other ones.
4. No need to flash a modem if you don't have data service, however it may help either way when using WiFi due to dropped connections, stability etc. For AOSP, use any ICS modem, for Touchwiz, use the same android firmware modem.
Flashing a new kernel is not needed unless you don't like how the stock kernel performs whether if it's power saving or performance. AOSP kernels are kind of limited as the ones out now work with different build dates of the ROMs, Touchwiz has a couple, but Agat63's Source Kernel is recommended by everyone for GB27.