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Hi all,
Had to pick up a Desire eye without having done much research (my Sony Z3 died while travelling).
My Desire eye was bought from Taipei airport, and is marked as a M910x. It lists the lte bands supported as 700, 900 and 1800.
Based on GSMarena and other sources, it seems to suggest more support than what the box does.
So does anyone know with certainty whether:
1. My specific phone only has those 3 bands (strange)
2. Region specific branding, but has more bands.
sephstyler said:
Hi all,
Had to pick up a Desire eye without having done much research (my Sony Z3 died while travelling).
My Desire eye was bought from Taipei airport, and is marked as a M910x. It lists the lte bands supported as 700, 900 and 1800.
Based on GSMarena and other sources, it seems to suggest more support than what the box does.
So does anyone know with certainty whether:
1. My specific phone only has those 3 bands (strange)
2. Region specific branding, but has more bands.
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For what its worth, over the weekend I was in Manila, Philippines, and connected to Smart LTE, which, based on my previous experience, should mainly be 2100mhz LTE, and my phone appeared to connect just fine. So it appears it may have more band support than the box suggests.
For anyone who may be following this thread, the Taiwanese page for the HTC desire eye reports the same bands as GSMarena:
4G LTE：
FDD - band 1( 2100MHz) , band 3 (1800MHz) , band 7 (2600 MHz), band 8 (900MHz), band 28 (700MHz)頻段
TDD - band 38 (2600 MHz),band 39(1900MHz), band 40 (2300 MHz),band 41(2600MHz) 頻段
Not sure why its listed differently on the box.
I decided to call HTC's Taiwanese customer service hotline this afternoon.
It took the girl a few minutes to get the details, but her official response is that the bands listed on their official website is correct, and that the box is only stating the LTE bands that the Taiwanese networks will be launching shortly. i.e. domestic market labelling
sephstyler said:
I decided to call HTC's Taiwanese customer service hotline this afternoon.
It took the girl a few minutes to get the details, but her official response is that the bands listed on their official website is correct, and that the box is only stating the LTE bands that the Taiwanese networks will be launching shortly. i.e. domestic market labelling
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Hi! Does the m910x come with band 4 (aws)?
matiasuy said:
Hi! Does the m910x come with band 4 (aws)?
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Hi all ;
I bought a HTC Desire Eye M910n model in Turkey , Red/White , and yes it does support 4G.Well tomorrow the mobile will be delivered , i made a quite deep research before deciding to buy this phone and for a mid range phone , the specs seems to rock in most of the cases.This one will be probably my 67.th mobile lol :=) I am also an IT guy .I am pretty sure that i would love that phone . But as you all know electronics is sometimes about being lucky or not ., so i will see that in the enar future and let you know .
NETWORK1
2G/ 2,5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA:
ASYA - 42 Mbps değerine kadar HSPA+ ile 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
AT&T - 21 Mbps değerine kadar HSPA ile 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
EMEA - 42 Mbps değerine kadar HSPA+ ile 850/900/2100 MHz
3G - TD_SCDMA:
ASYA - 1900/2000 MHz
4G - LTE:
ASYA - 1, 3, 7, 8, 28 FDD bantları/38, 39, 40, 41 TDD bantları
AT&T - 2, 4, 5, 17, 29 bantları
EMEA - 3, 7, 8, 20 bantları
I have seen contradictory reports on the FCC filing, so what is the truth- does the Pixel 2 XL support bande 71 or not?
thanks,
Why don't you go to the source and find out yourself?
aaronc_98 said:
I have seen contradictory reports on the FCC filing, so what is the truth- does the Pixel 2 XL support bande 71 or not?
thanks,
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No
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
flex360 said:
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Where does it say band 71?
flex360 said:
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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You might want to get your eyes checked, there is no band 71 support. I believe the only phone this year to support it is the v30.
flex360 said:
Yes it does support it.
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World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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Network
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800Mbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and
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For some reason when I ordered the unlocked one I did not see that many bands supported on the Google site. Maybe they updated it after. The more the better
I feel pretty much 100% sure that the Pixel does support band 71 and will never officially support it. The FCC filing for the Pixel clearly shows no support for band 71:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=tL+QG5ST3W6FkZ/OqTI25A==&fcc_id=NM8G011A
Click on "Test Report-HAC-RF.pdf" to download the report. Scroll to page 5 to see the bands.
The phone will not operate on a band that the FCC has not approved it to operate on.
Yeah, it's a bummer and seems dumb though.
cb474 said:
I feel pretty much 100% sure that the Pixel does support band 71 and will never officially support it. The FCC filing for the Pixel clearly shows no support for band 71:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=tL+QG5ST3W6FkZ/OqTI25A==&fcc_id=NM8G011A
Click on "Test Report-HAC-RF.pdf" to download the report. Scroll to page 5 to see the bands.
The phone will not operate on a band that the FCC has not approved it to operate on.
Yeah, it's a bummer and seems dumb though.
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Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.
I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
It's been stated somewhere else that the phone must have the hardware to support it and the Pixel 2 may not. Only the LG V30 supports it at this time. We don't even know if the Pixel's Snapdragon is the updated one Qualcomm said would support band 71... the same one in the V30. But if it is, the modem, antenna, amps, filters, and all the other necessary hardware has to be there as well. It's unlikely at this point that it will support it given the phone's hardware certification date which was prior to band 71 being certified by 3gpp/fcc.
hartleyshc said:
Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.
I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
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It was LTE that was turned off on the Nexus 4. It had the amplifier for it but was not certified by FCC. It is absolutely possible that changing radio band could enable band 71 on the pixel 2. And it may be easy enough for Google to enable it later if the phone actually has hardware for it.
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hartleyshc said:
Its possible. I believe it was band 12(?) that was not officially supported on the Nexus 4. The hardware supported it. But it wasn't in the FCC filing either. It was added by flashing a test modem.
I can't remember if it was ever added back in officially or not.
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As someone who is currently still using a Nexus 4 I can tell you that (1) it was band 4 and maybe a couple others, but definitel not 12 which came years later, (2) it was never officially supported, (3) enabling it was not simple and eventually got mostly killed by Nougat.
Also, the Nexus 4 was unusual in that it was essentially just an LG Optimus G in a slightly different body. The Optimus supported LTE, but it was just turned off for whatever reason the the Nexus 4. I don't think it is that simple with the Pixel 2.
Anyway, my point was the the Pixel 2 does not officially support band 71 (as can be seen in the FCC filing) so Google will never enable it, because that would be illegal. I thought about saying something about maybe it will get hacked into existence like with the Nexus 4, but that has happened on such a tiny handful of phones ever that I think it is extremely unlikely to the point of it's just not going to happen.
I do think it's ridiculous that a phone that has not even shipped yet is essentially already obsolete on T-Mobile's network (which is also true for the new iPhone 8 and X and every other phone except the V30). They know about these network changes years in advance. The Snapdragon 835 chipset obviously can be configured for band 71, since the V30 does it. So why don't they just plan ahead for these things? I guess because they would love to have people just buy another phone in a year.
cb474 said:
As someone who is currently still using a Nexus 4 I can tell you that (1) it was band 4 and maybe a couple others, but definitel not 12 which came years later, (2) it was never officially supported, (3) enabling it was not simple and eventually got mostly killed by Nougat.
Also, the Nexus 4 was unusual in that it was essentially just an LG Optimus G in a slightly different body. The Optimus supported LTE, but it was just turned off for whatever reason the the Nexus 4. I don't think it is that simple with the Pixel 2.
Anyway, my point was the the Pixel 2 does not officially support band 71 (as can be seen in the FCC filing) so Google will never enable it, because that would be illegal. I thought about saying something about maybe it will get hacked into existence like with the Nexus 4, but that has happened on such a tiny handful of phones ever that I think it is extremely unlikely to the point of it's just not going to happen.
I do think it's ridiculous that a phone that has not even shipped yet is essentially already obsolete on T-Mobile's network (which is also true for the new iPhone 8 and X and every other phone except the V30). They know about these network changes years in advance. The Snapdragon 835 chipset obviously can be configured for band 71, since the V30 does it. So why don't they just plan ahead for these things? I guess because they would love to have people just buy another phone in a year.
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Probably because 600mhz/band 71 auction only finished in recent months and these devices are designed about a year ago. No one knew how the auction would go, like who would win and how it would be integrated into existing networks. Heck Qualcomm only added support for it back in April 2017 and they said it requires additional hardware. If the OEM couldn't change their design in time for release they would not be able to make the change. I'm sure they would love to be able to tout the support for it if it would give them some extra sales but sometimes things are too far along already. The V30 was announced back in Aug and it still hasn't actually shipped for tmobile so it's possible LG had the time and was willing to add support at the last minute which caused the delays.
Band 71 is only available in a few markets anyway, so it is now a big deal right now. Some markets won't have band 71 until around the time the Pixel 3 comes out
NO band 71 for any phones released this year besides the v30
SquallLHeart said:
NO band 71 for any phones released this year besides the v30
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According to Tmobile, Samsung will have a phone with band 71 support later this year. It will most likely be a mid-range phone. We'll probably see a more major adoption in 2018. Part of this could also be T-mobile's fault. Their initial rollout schedule was supposed to start in 2018 but they accelerated it for 2017, pushing out test sites 2 months after receiving the licenses from the FCC. They are simply moving too fast for most companies to catch up, which can be a good and bad thing, a good thing in the long run for those who use t-mobile.
yea, even though the 600 MHz band is still pretty limited in a ton of areas... i would love to have more coverage in very rural areas and having that band would certainly be awesome.. and for the most part.. and actual factor in wanting to hold out until the Pixel 3...
because Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.
alas... the camera as well as the trade-in offer Google is offering for the Pixel I have now ultimately won me over and bit the bullet.. i'm getting the Pixel XL 2.
SquallLHeart said:
yea, even though the 600 MHz band is still pretty limited in a ton of areas... i would love to have more coverage in very rural areas and having that band would certainly be awesome.. and for the most part.. and actual factor in wanting to hold out until the Pixel 3...
because Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.
alas... the camera as well as the trade-in offer Google is offering for the Pixel I have now ultimately won me over and bit the bullet.. i'm getting the Pixel XL 2.
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Well if Google keeps the current trade in going and Tmobile keeps trying to attract Pixel users, it shouldn't cost you much to upgrade to the Pixel 3 next year
Ricey said:
According to Tmobile, Samsung will have a phone with band 71 support later this year. It will most likely be a mid-range phone. We'll probably see a more major adoption in 2018. Part of this could also be T-mobile's fault. Their initial rollout schedule was supposed to start in 2018 but they accelerated it for 2017, pushing out test sites 2 months after receiving the licenses from the FCC. They are simply moving too fast for most companies to catch up, which can be a good and bad thing, a good thing in the long run for those who use t-mobile.
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S8 active is rumored to be that phone.
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Ricey said:
Probably because 600mhz/band 71 auction only finished in recent months and these devices are designed about a year ago. No one knew how the auction would go, like who would win and how it would be integrated into existing networks. Heck Qualcomm only added support for it back in April 2017 and they said it requires additional hardware. If the OEM couldn't change their design in time for release they would not be able to make the change. I'm sure they would love to be able to tout the support for it if it would give them some extra sales but sometimes things are too far along already. The V30 was announced back in Aug and it still hasn't actually shipped for tmobile so it's possible LG had the time and was willing to add support at the last minute which caused the delays.
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The annoucement by T-Mobile of the results of the auction was in April, but my understanding is that the actual auction was complete in January. So the industry has known all year T-Mobile would be using band 71. Given that some phone companies roll out new phones every six months (Motorola has being doing this lately) that should have been plenty of time to adopt the design of the Pixel and Note 8 and other recent phones.
I think the reality is the phone manufacturers just don't care. It would incur extra costs to revise a design. They have their own process. No one except extreme gadget nerds know about these things. They just roll out phones on their own schedule and have zero incentive to do something that would prevent people from having to buy a new phone sooner rather than later.
edd247 said:
Band 71 is only available in a few markets anyway, so it is now a big deal right now. Some markets won't have band 71 until around the time the Pixel 3 comes out
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By the end of 2018 T-Mobile's rollout should be complete. They are already ahead of schedule. And it is going to be a huge part of their entire national network. A high end phone like the Pixel should not be obsolete on a carrier's network, within a year or less.
SquallLHeart said:
Qualcomm delayed the release of the 836 chip... the Pixel 2's are only going to be rocking the 835.. which also plays a factor in band support.
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The LG V30 uses the Snapdragon 835 and has band 71. This is not a 835 vs 836 issue.
I want a phone that works in US (T-Mobile LTE band 4 1700/2100) as well as Europe.
It seems there are only 2 Lg G5 Dual Sim models:
g710eaw & g710emw
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/phones/lg-g7-thinq-g710eaw-vs-lg-g7-thinq-g710emw/8050095
But only LMG710EMW lists band4 1700/2100.
However LG.com site doesn't list this band on any of those two. Where can I find exact specs (frequencies) for those phones that are correct?
Anyone own LMG710EMW ? and does it work in US?
thanks
I can confirm LG G7 EAW dual sim with 6GB ram working fine on lte in Europe...
shanekm said:
I want a phone that works in US (T-Mobile LTE band 4 1700/2100) as well as Europe.
It seems there are only 2 Lg G5 Dual Sim models:
g710eaw & g710emw
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/phones/lg-g7-thinq-g710eaw-vs-lg-g7-thinq-g710emw/8050095
But only LMG710EMW lists band4 1700/2100.
However LG.com site doesn't list this band on any of those two. Where can I find exact specs (frequencies) for those phones that are correct?
Anyone own LMG710EMW ? and does it work in US?
thanks
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Ignore the bands shown on the LG site and by "most" sites which get their information from the LG site.
The LG site ONLY shows bands that are OFFICIALLY Supported by that region, NOT which the phone supports via hardware.
These phones also support WCDMA even though many pages selling these phones say "GSM only, no CDMA". Unless WCDMA and CDMA are not the same thing...
Bands supported on G710EAW are LTE B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
WCDMA: 1900/2000.
EMW I believe has some differences in LTE bands. Check the seller site. In most cases, the exact bands should be shown on the phone box itself, so ask for a picture of that.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the bands shown on the LG site and by "most" sites which get their information from the LG site.
The LG site ONLY shows bands that are OFFICIALLY Supported by that region, NOT which the phone supports via hardware.
These phones also support WCDMA even though many pages selling these phones say "GSM only, no CDMA". Unless WCDMA and CDMA are not the same thing...
Bands supported on G710EAW are LTE B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
WCDMA: 1900/2000.
EMW I believe has some differences in LTE bands. Check the seller site. In most cases, the exact bands should be shown on the phone box itself, so ask for a picture of that.
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So that does that mean that this phone ( G710EAW are LTE B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41) will work with Tmobile USA?
Tmobile frequency/bands:
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
thank you
Did you know if the G710EAW works in Italy?
How is the frequency of updates despite the single Sim version?
Thanks!
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[email protected] said:
Did you know if the G710EAW works in Italy?
How is the frequency of updates despite the single Sim version?
Thanks!
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Depends on the carrier you want to use.
LameMonster82 said:
Depends on the carrier you want to use.
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Now I'm on Iliad
What about the updates?
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Falkentyne said:
Ignore the bands shown on the LG site and by "most" sites which get their information from the LG site.
The LG site ONLY shows bands that are OFFICIALLY Supported by that region, NOT which the phone supports via hardware.
These phones also support WCDMA even though many pages selling these phones say "GSM only, no CDMA". Unless WCDMA and CDMA are not the same thing...
Bands supported on G710EAW are LTE B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
WCDMA: 1900/2000.
EMW I believe has some differences in LTE bands. Check the seller site. In most cases, the exact bands should be shown on the phone box itself, so ask for a picture of that.
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Thanks for the info, can you so confirm that buying the EAW will have active by default all these bands? I hear that they are deactivated by the specific software.....
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the bands shown on the LG site and by "most" sites which get their information from the LG site.
The LG site ONLY shows bands that are OFFICIALLY Supported by that region, NOT which the phone supports via hardware.
These phones also support WCDMA even though many pages selling these phones say "GSM only, no CDMA". Unless WCDMA and CDMA are not the same thing...
Bands supported on G710EAW are LTE B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 38, 39, 40, 41
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
WCDMA: 1900/2000.
EMW I believe has some differences in LTE bands. Check the seller site. In most cases, the exact bands should be shown on the phone box itself, so ask for a picture of that.
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WCDMA and CDMA are not exactly the same.
I'm having doubts but c'mon! Apple has had it for the last two generations! Still an esim, but so what?
Having two numbers on one phone rocks! I know the international versions do it but when one of the numbers is on Verizon, that idea goes out the window.
That's what I want to know as well.. rocking OnePlus 7 Pro just because of dual sim
I read the US version is single esim. The F will be dual sim but will miss key US bands (again). It remains to be seen if it will have the right 5G bands for the US. It’s very annoying when apple phones have all the bands.
There is something not clear for now. In Europe, the Ultra is dual nano sim AND eSim compatible. Does it means we have 3 phone numbers?
Powergeek2017 said:
There is something not clear for now. In Europe, the Ultra is dual nano sim AND eSim compatible. Does it means we have 3 phone numbers?
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I doubt that what you've mentioned is true. Actually what most of the dealers are saying is that most of the regions will receive a hybrid sim + e-sim version. Meaning an e-sim with a hybrid slot (either adding a nano sim or a micro sd card).
But the good news is that I've bumped into a dealer on ebay selling a dual physical sim version, so actually it will be available but for selected regions.
I really don't understand their policy, the e-sim support is still not supported globally.
My guess is that they just don't want to miss something the iPhone has in their phone.
Does anyone know if the international dial sim has the right 5G bands for AT&T in the US? All the F versions of Samsung phones miss band 30, and I’m wondering if the addition of 5G will make it not matter that band 30 isn’t included. Anyone know?
Spec sheet on Best Buy website shows Exynos. That is weird! That may be dual hybrid sim (where you put in the second sim where the microsd goes).
cpufrost said:
Spec sheet on Best Buy website shows Exynos. That is weird! That may be dual hybrid sim (where you put in the second sim where the microsd goes).
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can you post a link to that
ekerbuddyeker said:
can you post a link to that
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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...unlocked-cosmic-black/6395759.p?skuId=6395759
Scroll down to features section.
I prefer the 865 over Exynos just based on past issues with performance and battery life. I'm over the rooting phase so not worried about it any more TBH.
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Does anyone know if the international dial sim has the right 5G bands for AT&T in the US? All the F versions of Samsung phones miss band 30, and I’m wondering if the addition of 5G will make it not matter that band 30 isn’t included. Anyone know?
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Based on this comparison spec sheet from Techwalls, it doesn’t look like there will be an international dual sim model that will support the same 5G bands as the US models (sub 6ghz, mid band, mmwave). Maybe the SM-G9880 SM-G9888 Asian versions will have dual sim even though there’s no DS on the model # (hoping).
SM-G988F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked)
SM-G988BZADXSP (Cosmic Gray – 128GB Storage)
SM-G988BZKDXSP (Cosmic Black – 128GB Storage) Exynos 990 Asia (India, Singapore) 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n7
SM-G9880
SM-G9888 Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM China
Hong Kong
Japan
Brazil 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
3G CDMA: CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n71, n260, n26
SM-G988U
SM-G988UZAAXAA (Cosmic Gray – 128GB Storage)
SM-G988UZKAXAA (Cosmic Black – 128GB Storage)
SM-G988UZKEXAA (Cosmic Black – 512GB Storage) Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM Factory Unlocked – US 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
3G CDMA: CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n71, n260, n26
Search Techwalls.com Samsung Ultra 5G for more models (sorry, new user and can’t post a url yet).
I am pretty sure you will not see any US 5G bands on Exynos models So if you want 5G in US, you will need to get Snapdragon S20 . Also Samsung likely caved in to US carriers yet again and disabled eSIM support in US Snapdragon models. There is a CNET article that states eSIM support will be enabled in a future update but US carriers will likely disable it.
Does anyone know if the OnePlus 7T T-Mobile (HD1907) is going to be usable in Europe if unlocked? I attach the relevant T-Mobile App screenshots to this post.
I tried to look it up on the internet when it comes to supported frequencies. But the www.frequencycheck.com does not list the T-Mobile (HD1907) version.
However here (http://band71.batcave.net/) HD1907 is listed together with HD1905, and that one is compatible with European bands: https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...ual-sim-td-lte-na-128gb-hd1905-bbk-guacamoleg
All in all when it comes to supported frequencies, it looks like it will be fine.
My main concern is if unlocked T-Mobile variant will like my European SIM card and the double SIM tray.
Has anyone got some information regarding this?
Here are the frequencies on the T mobile variant oneplus 7T.
Frequency: UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900); GSM: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 46, 48, 66, 71; CDMA: 0, 1, 10
source: https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/oneplus-7t
yes, the hd1905 and hd1907 support the most bands out of any 7t variant. The tmobile firmware may potentially be lacking some ims support though (eg tmo firmware is missing visible wireless ims support, but that's domestic), but you're not likely to run into any issues.
I don't have my old dump handy to compare profiles, but if you wanted to be certain you'll have maximum support, consider flashing the global firmware.
Nice!
How did you unlock the T-Mobile version 7t?
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yes, the hd1905 and hd1907 support the most bands out of any 7t variant. The tmobile firmware may potentially be lacking some ims support though (eg tmo firmware is missing visible wireless ims support, but that's domestic), but you're not likely to run into any issues.
I don't have my old dump handy to compare profiles, but if you wanted to be certain you'll have maximum support, consider flashing the global firmware.
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Well, I have a 1907, unlocked from the factory, everything works, except for the volte, although my provider connects to band 28, it does not connect to volte and my provider uses that network to provide its services
Yep, everything works fine, I buy dual sim tray on aliexpress, and second sim card works too