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[Q] Amoled or Slcd screen

Hi
newby here been doing a lot of reading and just found out that there are two types of screen for the htc desire amoled & slcd.I'm waiting for a new desire to arrive in the next couple of days and was wondering if the new slcd screen was any better of worse than the amoled one.The reason for asking is that the desire is advertised as having an amoled screen and if its better then perhaps i should return it without opening the box as it would be not as descrided in the description of the phone.Can any tell me where to look on the box to see which type of sceen it is or is there no difference in the 2 screens worth bothering about.
Thanks in advance.
Regard Malcolm

malcolm159 said:
Hi
newby here been doing a lot of reading and just found out that there are two types of screen for the htc desire amoled & slcd.I'm waiting for a new desire to arrive in the next couple of days and was wondering if the new slcd screen was any better of worse than the amoled one.The reason for asking is that the desire is advertised as having an amoled screen and if its better then perhaps i should return it without opening the box as it would be not as descrided in the description of the phone.Can any tell me where to look on the box to see which type of sceen it is or is there no difference in the 2 screens worth bothering about.
Thanks in advance.
Regard Malcolm
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well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen
hope this helps! good luck!

AMOLED is way better
has better battery life

thunderbirds said:
AMOLED is way better
has better battery life
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Nope, according to what has been reported in the news and what HTC is telling everyone, the Desire now has a better battery life thanks to the new SLCD screens.
AMOLED:
+ better contrast and black levels (makes for a better looking picture)
- can't see anything on the screen when used outside or when the sun is shining on the screen
- lower battery life
SLCD:
- a little lower contrast (but still looking great and much better than standard LCD).
+ can see the screen outside in sun light.
+ better battery life.
As far as I'm concerned, a phone I can't use outside due to a useless screen is of no use to me; so I choose the SLCD over the AMOLED. Of course S-AMOLED (as found on the Samsung Galaxy S) would be the best of both worlds (great contrast and you can use it outside).

SLCD is supposed to have at least 5 times better battery life than normal LCD, I don't think AMOLED can say that.
In reality the noticeable differences between the 2 screens will be little to none, however on paper SCLD does edge it.

Here's one comparison:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-desire-with-s-lcd-screen-meets-one-with-amoled-they-go-head-to-head/
In short: The SLCD allows for better battery life and improved sunlight readability, while the AMOLED produces more vibrant colours.

Hi thanks for info mines arrived and it looks like its the s-lcd screen with whats on the box no mention of amoled ,but if the battery life is better then maybe that is the way to go if there's little to chose in the display side of the screen.Just got to diside wheather to open the box and get on with it or ship ai back as no as described ie no amoled screen.
Thanks in advance.
Regards Malcolm

Is it this simple to tell the Difference
!PANDA said:
well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen
hope this helps! good luck!
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Hi all.
See the below post for pictures of the differance with the screens and boxes. Also details of them.
I didnt and possibly am stuck with the Sled version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7882882&postcount=61
To bonit2,
Welcome to the site. Didnt see your post as must have been updating mine when you made yours.
Will be trying the update tomorrow so its a case of "suck it and see"
Once done will re-post on sucess/failure.

Odinbear said:
Hi, I know this sounds stupid. But can you post a copy of the back of the box showing the difference, I have included a screen shot of my (I assume) Super LED box.
Until reading this forum I was about to try the Froyo update but have seen that there are different versions for the different screens, and without this forum would have tried the *Wrong Version*.
If this version info is wrong let me know as dont want to **** the phone up.
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Hi! my first post here.
not to add more to the confusion but i have the same print in the box as yours and mine is still AMOLED display.
At first i thought it was SLCD and having nothing to compare it with, i bit the bullet and root using the one for AMOLED. no display blackout and all went well.
my guess is that the print in the box was to prepare for the roll out of the S-LCD even if there are still AMOLED display on stock.
of course you may have a real S-LCD so good luck.

I have the amoled screen and i can ALWAYS read my screen outside and very easily too.
Why do some people keep misinforming others that amoled screen is unreadable outside or in the sun ?!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Hi!
I already test both Desire with Amoled and S-LCD and forget S-LCD...If you try Amoled first you will never go back trust me.
I love Amoled. You will never see the differences if you don't use it, and forget youtube comparative videos because you will not be able to detect the real differences...
For me Amoled it's much better and if you want to save baterry just work with sync settings...Why sync gmail contacts, facebook contacts, weather... every 1 hour?
Amoled or S-Amoled but only on galaxy I think for now...

To check if my Desire is AMOLED or SLCD
!PANDA said:
well, I don't know which one is better, but on the normal box (white and tall with a full size desire on it) it says at the back.. Specifications Display 3.7-inch AMOLED touch-sensetive screen
hope this helps! good luck!
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I have checked on my Box,
specifications are :
Modèle : A8181
Affichage : Ecran tactil 3,7 pouces
there is no specification for the kind of screen AMOLED or SLCD.
any idea ?

GoodLinux said:
I have checked on my Box,
specifications are :
Modèle : A8181
Affichage : Ecran tactil 3,7 pouces
there is no specification for the kind of screen AMOLED or SLCD.
any idea ?
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If amoled is not specified in the specs it's SLCD.

about screen
the same situation, bought a phone in mediaworld and back on the box says "schermo sensibile al tocco da 3.7 polici" this means that the sensitive ekranb 3.7. diagonal. this also means that the screen SLCD?
then you can link tyknut where indicated as do root for SLCD screens?
thanks

There is an article regarding this on Engadget.
xxx.engadget.com/2010/09/13/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/
Unable to post a direct link since I am new here.

Just to add to the confusion. (UK only)
BigMango said:
If amoled is not specified in the specs it's SLCD.
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I rang the freephone number for the UK and spoke to tech support.
They asked for the IMEI number and told me that I had the Amoled screen.
However my packaging "Didnt" have the amoled wording on it, and was told that the packaging had been changed before the screens had and some people had the "wrong" boxes.
So if you want to know what you have, just ring them and they will tell you.
Also if you got your phone before the middle of July it "Should be Amoled" again tech support (UK) words, cannot say for elsewhere.
Hope that clears things up. Lol..

Ah, nice Odinbear, that's some good info you got there.

Happy to help
BigMango said:
Ah, nice Odinbear, that's some good info you got there.
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Cheers, BigMango.
Sometimes its so easy to get lost in the detail of making a problem difficult that the simple answers get overlooked.
I have always found HTC tech support (UK) very helpful and believe that most of them are members of this site LOL..
If theyre not they should be.

I cracked my screen and i dont have the box...... so how would I tell without opening it up, which one I have?
Just if I have to open it up and let it sit there for 3 weeks Id forget how I would put it back together

If you got your Desire after August (I think) or September then it would be SLCD otherwise it's AMOLED.

[Q] how to tell if I have SLCD or AMOLED?

hey guys, I just got my Desire (loving it).
I got it without it's box. I know it's probably a stupid question, but I did a search on this, couldn't find an answer. How can I tell whether its SLCD or AMOLED?
my HBOOT version is 0.83, I noticed most SLCDs come with this version or 0.92, but its not enough for me to tell.
Any idea?
Thanks

hey, there is one way to check, the slcd screens use backlight which remains on when the screen is on. if you get a complete black picture, pure black picture, on the amoled it should look like the screen is off but if u got the slcd you can still see the backlight behind the lcd.
hope this isnt a stupid answer
still new to all this

yewthanasia said:
hey guys, I just got my Desire (loving it).
I got it without it's box. I know it's probably a stupid question, but I did a search on this, couldn't find an answer. How can I tell whether its SLCD or AMOLED?
my HBOOT version is 0.83, I noticed most SLCDs come with this version or 0.92, but its not enough for me to tell.
Any idea?
Thanks
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http://antondnagy.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/how-to-tell-if-your-htc-desire-has-slcd-or-amoled-screen/

thanks guys!
I'll tried to see how the screen is in total darkness (camera) still it wasn't really clear as it seems dark enough for me, no grayish stuff. However, I'll try to magnifier thing posted in the link above tomorrow.
Many thanks!

The Amoled screen will have matrix of visible dots about an 1/8 to a 1/4 inch apart on the unpowered screen if viewed at the right angle. The SLCD does not. How do I know ? I bought the 3rd one sold at the store on release day and just bought 2 more a week ago. They are different.

vinee9 said:
hey, there is one way to check, the slcd screens use backlight which remains on when the screen is on. if you get a complete black picture, pure black picture, on the amoled it should look like the screen is off but if u got the slcd you can still see the backlight behind the lcd.
hope this isnt a stupid answer
still new to all this
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no it's the best way to check

Also you can simply look at the keyboard. If all the letters are perfectly clear, its an slcd. If it looks as if its an lower resolution and unclear you have the amoled
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Mine is slcd and isn't clearly visible in sunlight, .... amoled more clearly you can see?

You can also look on the box, if it says 3.7" touch sensitive screen, it is slcd, if it says 3.7" amoled touch sensitive screen it is amoled
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

[q] a problem with my dhd's screen

WELL,I'M A NWW COMER HERE AND I JUST BOUGHT A NEW DHD
BUT WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS THE SCREEN OF DHD GOT TO BE SLCD(IN OFFICIAL RTF)OR JUST TFT?
the grainy display effect makes me sad.......on a flagship phone?!the screen type is just like that?
according to the parameters of s-lcd,i dont believe it....
is any one here can tell me the truth?

The screen is WVGA TFT LCD - and the screen looks fine in my opinion!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire_HD

alexluckett said:
The screen is WVGA TFT LCD - and the screen looks fine in my !
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well ,first thank you! but i think it's worth being using a better screen in this kind of phone,at least ,a better screen than MOTO used.....TFT...yeah...what a battery holder of 1230..isnt it？update CPU to 45nm and a tft screen.....

Grain Effect Visible at Steep Angles

Hey guys. Just wanted to ask a thing.
When I see my One V at steep angles (or even at certain angles), the screen appears grainy. I mean, it looks like cluttered pixels. The Grain effect on screen is only visible on white backgrounds with high brightness. Is this a defect ? I read somewhere that this Grainy screen is visible because of the Adhesive glue. Please let me know if you experience this. Thank you.

GamingFreak said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to ask a thing.
When I see my One V at steep angles (or even at certain angles), the screen appears grainy. I mean, it looks like cluttered pixels. The Grain effect on screen is only visible on white backgrounds with high brightness. Is this a defect ? I read somewhere that this Grainy screen is visible because of the Adhesive glue. Please let me know if you experience this. Thank you.
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Perhaps you could look at it normally? A phone isn't made to look at it from steep angles. And if it only appears on white backgrounds with high brightness, maybe use a different wallpaper and lower brightness (=better battery life). People want everything these days...

corneilli said:
Perhaps you could look at it normally? A phone isn't made to look at it from steep angles. And if it only appears on white backgrounds with high brightness, maybe use a different wallpaper and lower brightness (=better battery life). People want everything these days...
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I completely agree with you. The purpose was to just find out if this is a defect or not. Do you experience this or get this grainy effect ? (I'm just asking)

i think you should go for a replacment..i dont have any such problem..and no1 here has it...you're the 1st one to report such kind of issue

I've already had my One V's screen replaced.

replace again then i think you got old stock of the phone///
whts ur manufacturing date written on the box?

It's been around 6 months since I've got my One V. I don't think that HTC will replace it.
Manufacturing date - July 2012

Other users of One V. Please see if you all get this Grainy Effect. Or am I the only one.

lol..obvious it is there..i also got my phne in may nd it had yellow stuff on the bottom corner..i got it replaced within 2days...the phone i got had virbrator problems soo got tht 1 replaced too this is my 3rd one v working all fine

paarthdesai said:
lol..obvious it is there..i also got my phne in may nd it had yellow stuff on the bottom corner..i got it replaced within 2days...the phone i got had virbrator problems soo got tht 1 replaced too this is my 3rd one v working all fine
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Obviously . It is there ?
You mean even you have this grainy effect ?

I HAD !

OK, then Anyway, I don't have this issue at all, my screen is crispclear even at steep angles

Visible pixels on HTC 10?

Hello,
I've had the HTC 10 for about two months now and recently I've noticed that pixels are quite visible when I'm on a blue or a white screen... I can see horizontal pixel lines when on a blue screen; and vertical pixel lines when on a white screen.
I was wondering if this is the case with all phones or my phone is just malfunctioning...
BTW, I've seen this issue on iPhone 5s and xperia Z as well. I thought maybe all LCDs have this problem?
Thanks

I have never seen anything like what you're describing on any LCD device I've owned. I cannot see any pixels on my HTC 10 with the naked eye as is expected due to the high pixel density. Can you take a picture of the screen to show us? I'd say that your HTC 10 is defective but it's unlikely that your iPhone 5s and Xperia Z are all suffering from the same issue.

jaredkzr said:
I have never seen anything like what you're describing on any LCD device I've owned. I cannot see any pixels on my HTC 10 with the naked eye as is expected due to the high pixel density. Can you take a picture of the screen to show us? I'd say that your HTC 10 is defective but it's unlikely that your iPhone 5s and Xperia Z are all suffering from the same issue.
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I tried capturing a photo but it doesn't look like what i see with my eyes.

LCD normally have tighter pixels than AMOLED so it's pretty impossible for a qhd LCD to look pixelated unless there's a fault

Unless you have awesome eyesight or youre just looking really close in a non every day way then you won't see pixels, the screen is sublime and pixels for me at least aren't an issue.

Are you wearing glasses?
...particularly of the polarized nature?

Unless your seeing the digitizer for some reason?

dladz said:
Unless you have awesome eyesight or youre just looking really close in a non every day way then you won't see pixels, the screen is sublime and pixels for me at least aren't an issue.
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Yes I do look closely, I checked some other htc10 devices and they looked the same xD

Rolo42 said:
Are you wearing glasses?
...particularly of the polarized nature?
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No I don't
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Unless your seeing the digitizer for some reason?
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No idea
I checked some other htc10 devices and they looked the same, I guess that just how it is

It's just fantastic..
Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..