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Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
Theres the script for apps2sd, not sure if you can just flash the .zip though.
IMO, you might not think there's anything to change until you experience the changes, just get a custom rom and reap the benefits.
No, you need init.d support. Get a custom rom.
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Pre-rooted stock Froyo with optional a2sd+.
Allright, I finally decided to use LeeDroid's rom and, so far so good ! PLenty of free phone memory, with a ton of apps !! Thanks a lot for your usefull comments.
I was in the same predicaent yesterday, but gave up as I had to go out!
I had LeeDroid with A2SD on the phone, but it still ran out of space when I installed Need For Speed... but this was probably because I didn't have my SD Card partitioned.
Am I right when I think that I have to backup my SD Card, then go into ROM Manager and simply format the card in there for A2SD?
I tried this, but I still only see my SD card as 1 partition when I look in Windows 7. Is this right - or should I see 2 partitions?
Sorry for the newb questions - but I want to get it all sorted before I start setting the phone up the way I want!!
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
thed0g said:
Windows cannot see ext type partitions, so this is ok. Yeah, backup, use ROM manager to make the partition, then recopy the backup.
Get Quick System Info from the Market, you'll see there if the ext partition is used afterwards.
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Thanks for the reply.
I checked my partition with Quick System Info - and something must've gone wrong as my A2SD partition is only 16mb with only 2mb free!!
What settings am I supposed to use when I use ROM Manager to make the partition? I'm pretty sure I set the first one to 512mb and the second to 0mb like I read somewhere. Is this wrong?
Yeah, thats ok 512mb for apps and 0 for swap. Try it couple times, maybe the ROM manager didn't do it properly for the 1st time. Check with Quick System Info when its done.
Actually, you can use anything you want to format your microSDHC card. I used a computer with linux, a card reader and gparted, and I found it way more straightforward than using the phone to do the job. Gparted is included in Ubuntu and yu even have gparted live disk/usb (go to gparted.sourceforge.net. Sorry can't post links on the forum yet )
Dinaiz said:
Hi all !
OK after reading a lot of stuff on the web (mainly modaco and xda), I finally understood a bit more this Apps2Sd thingy.
Like most people I have an "internal storage" problem on my desire
Now I managed to have fully rooted HTC Desire, with security off even though the bootloader is 0.9x using unrevoked. Great piece of software
Great so far, but I still have a space problem.
After further reading, I finally understood that thestandard Froyo Apps2Sd sucks and still eats up loads of internal memory because apps aren't designed to take advantage of it and a few other reasons but I digress.
So the only solution is to install the unofficial apps2sd or apps2sd+ (the ony diference being that app2sd+ also moves the dalvik cache, right ?)
However, so far, I've only read explanations about using a2sd/a2sd+ with a CUSTOM rom.
Now I know that modaco and xda custom roms are just great (used to test a few with my old acer liquid) but well I'm very satisfied of HTC stock rom indeed. Seriously, I can't see anything to change.
So, I'd like to use a2sd/a2sd+ but avoid going through wiping the phone, falshing a new rom and all...Furthermore, I took some time to link the contacts between gmail and facebook and I wouldn't like to do it again.
Is this possible to use a2sd/a2sd+ using the standard HTC rom, without having to flash a new custom rom ? And if yes, could some kindly explain me how ?
Best regards
D.
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Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
That's just AWESOME !! Many thanks for the tip, that's exactly what I was looking for
tester72 said:
Hi,
i was lookin for a solution too and i found it.
I am running on stock rom froyo 2.2 on my htc desire.
16gb micro sd card. - no data loss.
Here is the steps.
HTC desire has to be rooted. and S-OFF (not sure if it works without S-OFF)
Busybox installed.
Next , download Gparted to partition your SD Card. (can run in VM )
Run Gparted, mount your card, USe Gparted to shrink your sd card. (i have my pics and videos inside the card up to 12gb.. and i shrink to 13gb.. It takes a looooong time.. about 13 mins to shink.. thank god my data is still intact..
i partition the extra 1gb.. set it as primary too and then format it as ext2... i have tried ext3 and ext4.. it cant be recognized by Desire.
put back yr SD card.. (if you use a card reader.. or can jus partition using Desire mounted as disk drive)
Next.. download. Link2SD , search in market..
Run the app and it will be able to detect and ask you to select the drive.. ext2 and press ok.
now.. use the app to link up yr app.. those with FRoyo app2sd.. u can click 'move to phone' and then use link2sd to link it..
you will start to see that your internal memory will increase as u move and link more apps using link2SD...
Now go to the link2sd option and set it to 'auto link' new installed app.
once u installed any new app.. it will be linked...
if the app is auto installed to SD card via the Froyo app2sd.. simply go to manage application and move it to phone and the use link2sd to link it..
(no.. you will not see the 1g size when u go under settings, you can check storage under the link2sd app)
Note: once u mount yr Desire as disk drive .. you will need to reboot your phone else if you install any new app.. it will be install to your real internal memory even thou it says linked... if this happens.. you might see low memory notification.. jus reboot your phone.. and when rebooted, it will be re-link automatically..
Cheers! i used to have 15mb left.. now i have 50++ mb.. and yet installed alot of apps.. without flashing a rom.. this will helps if you guys jus need more internal storage and do not wat to risk or go thru the restoration of data..
as usual... before you do anything... do a nandroid backup using clockworkmod recovery or any recovery and also titantium backup to backup the apps data in case anything goes wrong
Phone working well for the past 3 days
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This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for, but the bit about installing BusyBox came as a surprise. What does that do for you here?
Thanks
John
Ok, here's my situation:
Wildfire s A510e
S-ON
Android 2.3.3
This thing enabled
According to app2sd, i've got no more moveable apps, on my internal memory there are just 7 apps installed (Google Maps, Facebook, Vocal Search, Youtube, Gmail, Clock Widget, 3g Watchdog), but i've got just 6mb free (out of 150mb).
The thing is, browsing my internal memory (using for example Disk Usage, which i think is very user friendly), i found out that all the apps i've installed on the sd have a lot of data on the internal storage anyway.
For example, i've got Barcode Scanner installed on my SD, But it uses 545kb on my internal memory 600kb on the SD.
And another thing: when i browse to settings- applications - manage apps, i can see Barcode Scanner installed on the SD, but it says it uses 545kb (which is the amount of data in the internal memory).
So, is all this normal? 'cause otherwise i don't see the point in installing apps on the sd if they fill up the internal memory anyways.
Any idea? Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance!
I have soff, a rooted rom. Many apps installed ans 120mb or so free memory. I think ans soff device is more flexible to tweak.
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Ok, found out that the data not bein moved is mainly davlik cache and .apk files.
Now, although I already know the answer... Is it impossible to move those files, without root privileges, right?
Damn, I want S-OFF.
That's right, you need root access in order to move any system file on the device to another location, such as a different partition or external card.
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Update:
I've unlocked and rooted my phone.
I've created a 1024mb ext4 partition and installed Link2SD.
Moving all the apps to the partition.
Still, i found .apk files and davlik cache in the primary partition.
Any help? I though with root all my space problems would be over easyly :S
I did a 1024mb partition and used data2sd, I don't have to move app myself, the internal memory show my 1,150 GB...
Maybe you should use data2sd :/
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update to rom 2.3.5 will actually free up more memory even you don't have the unlock your phone. For stock app e.g. facebook, gmail; if you happened to update it, they are unable to be moved to the SD card and occupy much of the internal memory. You can always use app2sd to move the other application to the SD card to free your internal memory once you've updated from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5, I think the HTC people have made some improvement in their latest update with regards to the internal memory issue.
After the updating, I haven't yet unlock my phone (as there was no suitable RUU for my carrier), yet I have free memory of 40 Mb on a 2.3.5 rom Vs that of 15Mb on a 2.3.3 rom.
SavageButcher said:
Update:
I've unlocked and rooted my phone.
I've created a 1024mb ext4 partition and installed Link2SD.
Moving all the apps to the partition.
Still, i found .apk files and davlik cache in the primary partition.
Any help? I though with root all my space problems would be over easyly :S
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Did you do MOVE to SD or Link?
Move to SD is just using the built in Apps2SD support which still leaves parts of the APK, all the Dalvik Cache and Library files still on your internal Data partition.
Link is what you want... There are a few apps like Link2SD that, for obvious reasons, won't link.
You are not looking to use the Apps2SD function. Link.
Also you will see ALL the apps and Dalvik cache files listed on the Data partition still but if you look carefully they are sizeless as they are simply "links" or shortcuts if you like, to the real files on your secondard SD partition.
You will also still see the System APKS Dalvik cache files unless you integrate them into the system partition using something like Titanium Backup Pro. This is as it should be. System Dalvik will not move to an external partition.
If you're rooted and have a recovery, just install DT a2sd. Once your find the file, flash it, go to terminal emulator in the phone and type
Code:
su
A2sd reinstall
your phone will do a hot reboot. Then go back in and type
Code:
su
a2sd cachesd
There will bet another hot reboot and you're done. You'll still lose some internal memory as time goes by, but that's because the phone will store the apps cache on you're internal memory still.
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d33ps1x said:
Did you do MOVE to SD or Link?
Move to SD is just using the built in Apps2SD support which still leaves parts of the APK, all the Dalvik Cache and Library files still on your internal Data partition.
Link is what you want... There are a few apps like Link2SD that, for obvious reasons, won't link.
You are not looking to use the Apps2SD function. Link.
Also you will see ALL the apps and Dalvik cache files listed on the Data partition still but if you look carefully they are sizeless as they are simply "links" or shortcuts if you like, to the real files on your secondard SD partition.
You will also still see the System APKS Dalvik cache files unless you integrate them into the system partition using something like Titanium Backup Pro. This is as it should be. System Dalvik will not move to an external partition.
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Thanks deepsix! That actually worked. (btw i realized that by myself just 30 secs after i wrote my previous post, i feel so noob for writing that, lol.)
good day every one and i hope that u help me some how
my mobile is DHD android revulotion 6.1 and tried 6.3
what is the problem hmmmm
first let me tell u this i have 700 mg in my internal memory free and 28 gb in my sd card free
although i have all that my phone keeps telling me when i try to install any new application there is insufficient space please manage some applications to free space
that was the first strike now when i open the sd and phone storage beside the sd and internal memory space there isn't any numbers ( imean it has to show number like for say 515 mb free and so on right ) insted of that there is 2 letters PB and nothing more
i tried to do app 2 sd helped a lil but the prob;em kept asking for more space
so please help me fix this i really love android revulotion so much and i want to keep using it​
Try wiping everything and reflashing the rom.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
If you have a LOT of apps, and re-install them all at the same time, sometimes the dalvik cache seems to get full and the phone reports that it is out of memory when you try to install another app. If that's the case, try clearing data from Market and wiping the dalvik cache in Recovery.
thnx
thanks every one but can u tell me how can i delet a thread ???
i did what u told u but nothing changed still the same problem
sone one told me to do partitions in the ext4 or it is some thing related to this fact can any one tell me what did he mean ?
Drage-Tearor said:
i did what u told u but nothing changed still the same problem
sone one told me to do partitions in the ext4 or it is some thing related to this fact can any one tell me what did he mean ?
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How About Flashing A New Rom?
Have You Tried To Format The SD Card And Wiping everything for a clean install?
yes ghalyoum i did that and i do that every time i want to change or update the room
but the problem still present i mean now
and some one told me about the partition my memory i didn't understand that and others say ceck the md5 i didn't understand that or even how to ceck it or what is md5 from the 1st place
so please help i started to think to change the phone it self lol
perhaps try flashing this ? link taken from Blackice thread...
Drage-Tearor said:
and some one told me about the partition my memory i didn't understand that and others say ceck the md5 i didn't understand that or even how to ceck it or what is md5 from the 1st place
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The DHD has a lot of internal memory so can handle a lot of apps installed. However if you have a really large amount of apps, it is possible to make a special partition on your SD card that acts as an extension to the internal memory. This is called an sd-ext partition and it can be done in recovery. However you also need special scripts to make it work. It's mostly used on older phones like the Desire that have less memory than the DHD, or on older versions of Android. Since Froyo came out, if they start to run low on internal memory, most people just use the "Move to SD" feature that is built-in to Android (Settings/Applications/Manager Applications then select an app to see if the "Move to SD Card" button is enabled).
However it sounds like you still have a lot of internal memory free, so it's more likely to be a problem with the Android system and the Market not recognising that you have free space. Try clearing Market data as well as clearing the Dalvik cache. If you haven't already tried it, go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/All Applications and find the Market, select it and press the "Clear Data" button. Then go into Recovery and wipe dalvik cache again and reboot. You might need to wipe Market data again. Someone else had this in the ARHD thread and had to do this more than once before it settled down.
As for MD5, it's a checksum - a way to make sure the file downloaded correctly. Just google "how to check md5" for loads of useful info.
Yes I chose right format (ext3) on the first start and everything worked fine until now. I only have 8 apps in internal memory and linked 10 others to SD card, which is not many, but my internal memory still gets full. I tried wipe davik-cache and other option in the "More" menu but it could'nt free much space.
Back when I used a2sd on Cm7, I could install as many apps as I wanted but now the number is restricted. I heard that a2sd can cause severe lag on CM10 so I switch to link2sd but I have no idea what went wrong took so much storage like this. Can anyone help me?
BTW I'm using CM10 AOKP by erikas.
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Link2SD does not move app data folder.
Check with Link2SD which app use most space and if it's with data folder or not.
U should link data,apk & dalvik files to sd.
I'm using for a long time with a lot of roms and never had such problem.
Notice that in some roms after a restart dalvik cache move again to internal.(like maclaw roms).
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ItachiSama said:
Link2SD does not move app data folder.
Check with Link2SD which app use most space and if it's with data folder or not.
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How can I check if it's with data folder or not? Below each app's description have some information like "Data: 500KB". I tried clear som app's data but it didnt free much data, only 4MB, and honestly I dont want to clear them
The weird thing is that my ext format is ext 3, but in Storage information there's 1 line telling that /data/sdext2. And when I tried recreating mount script, an error popped out saying that "mount: Device or resource busy. ext3 may not be supported on your device. Try FAT32 on the second partition". Other options failed too. Note that it worked in the first place. After that my ext is unmounted and a reboot mounts it back.
*I checked all options I can in Link2SD settings. I'm feeling jealous to pepple saying that they have lots of free space for apps
Just select all user app and press on "Create link"
Hello there!
I have a question that I hope you could help me with getting an answer for it.
I have a desire 816 rooted with init.d support & system write enabled.
I know there is no S-Off for our device yet.
I created an ext4 partition on my sd card to expand my internal storage. and chose to give mounts2sd a try..
Installed Mounts2sd. gave it superuser access of course &installed the script with no problem
then I rebooted my device and nothing happened, then I checked the log and it said that "The script has been invoked without super user permissions!"
Why did this happen? should the device be completely s-off to be able to run mounts2sd scripts correctly?
what do you do to expand your internal storage? or are we stuck with only using Link2sd only?
Thanks in advance guys
installed link2sd and then the mounting scripts & rebooted but after another reboot I got this message after a quick reboot it's gone..
I've searched for a solution, some says I shouldn't turn off my phone the normal way but reboot via link2sd to avoid this issue. but this is annoying really! anyone having this issue?
mohammed fayed said:
installed link2sd and then the mounting scripts & rebooted but after another reboot I got this message after a quick reboot it's gone..
I've searched for a solution, some says I shouldn't turn off my phone the normal way but reboot via link2sd to avoid this issue. but this is annoying really! anyone having this issue?
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Getting Link2SD working was truly a pain. I got it working after several tries and I am still not sure how I did it but works and is able to mount the EXT3 partition after regular boot. OK so here is what I did and hope this helps. I partition my SD card (FAT32 and Ext3) at first I was able to only get it to work with quick boot. I had encryption enable and that didn't seem to play nice with Link2SD so I did a factory wipe. After the first boot and getting all the updates I turned off the device and booted to recovery(TWRP 2.8.4.0) and use adb to setup wp_mod.ko. I booted the phone and ran Link2SD scrip and restarted. Voila! I was able to link my apps to the second partition on my sd card.
Side notes:
ART runtime didn't seem to play nice in my case.
Getting Link2SD Plus is helpful it allows you to link "internal data". Very useful if you use the Facebook app that can eat up lots of storage.
I install Foldermount from the play store it really help me with large files for installing games like Real Racing or Wild Blood, also I moved manually the Thumbnails folder of the camera and many more in orther to free my internal sdcard. The only problem you will find is that it is a paid app. So it's up to you.
I did it and I'm good with the choice.
robert_rcr said:
Getting Link2SD working was truly a pain. I got it working after several tries and I am still not sure how I did it but works and is able to mount the EXT3 partition after regular boot. OK so here is what I did and hope this helps. I partition my SD card (FAT32 and Ext3) at first I was able to only get it to work with quick boot. I had encryption enable and that didn't seem to play nice with Link2SD so I did a factory wipe. After the first boot and getting all the updates I turned off the device and booted to recovery(TWRP 2.8.4.0) and use adb to setup wp_mod.ko. I booted the phone and ran Link2SD scrip and restarted. Voila! I was able to link my apps to the second partition on my sd card.
Side notes:
ART runtime didn't seem to play nice in my case.
Getting Link2SD Plus is helpful it allows you to link "internal data". Very useful if you use the Facebook app that can eat up lots of storage.
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I disabled system write protection using wp_mod.ko since I rooted my device & enabled init.d support too.. I don't know what the problem that the ext partition isn't mounted before boot..
Thank you for the tips
gremy1987 said:
I install Foldermount from the play store it really help me with large files for installing games like Real Racing or Wild Blood, also I moved manually the Thumbnails folder of the camera and many more in orther to free my internal sdcard. The only problem you will find is that it is a paid app. So it's up to you.
I did it and I'm good with the choice.
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I'm using foldermount.. It's an amazing app
but link2sd or mounts2sd are for linking or moving the apps apk,dalvik cache & also data if you choose that to ext partition..
with foldermount you can link data or obb folders as they tend to be large with some games but I'm asking for link2sd or mounts2sd to increase my internal storage...
mohammed fayed said:
I'm using foldermount.. It's an amazing app
but link2sd or mounts2sd are for linking or moving the apps apk,dalvik cache & also data if you choose that to ext partition..
with foldermount you can link data or obb folders as they tend to be large with some games but I'm asking for link2sd or mounts2sd to increase my internal storage...
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I understand you are rooted and have write permissions but it doesn't hurt to try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-816/development/mod-enable-init-d-stock-kernel-vm-t2987126
Flashing this also fixes permission to SD card to enable apps like Titanium Backup to write to the micro SD card.