Does anyone have any insight on the difference beside the Tmo apps that can be download from Google Play? Some things that popped to mind that maybe cooked into the Tmo ROM: Wifi Calling, newly unveiled Enhanced Voice Services and VoLTE?
The Vegas unboxing video showed Des opening the app drawers that have only 1 full first page plus a few apps on the second page. I see T-mobile TV app and another magenta icon. It's very minimal, which is a good thing, but not sure how update- and developer-friendly will the T-mo version be though.
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Does anyone have any insight on the difference beside the Tmo apps that can be download from Google Play? Some things that popped to mind that maybe cooked into the Tmo ROM: Wifi Calling, newly unveiled Enhanced Voice Services and VoLTE?
The Vegas unboxing video showed Des opening the app drawers that have only 1 full first page plus a few apps on the second page. I see T-mobile TV app and another magenta icon. It's very minimal, which is a good thing, but not sure how update- and developer-friendly will the T-mo version be though.
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As far as being developer-friendly, the T-Mobile version is no different than the carrier unlocked version. It's bootloader can be unlocked officially through HTC and thus can be modified to the same extent.
As far as updates, the unlocked version will get updates quicker than the T-Mobile version. This is simply because the updates will be coming from HTC and not need to go through T-Mobile carrier approval first.
10,000 ft?? Not in that helo.
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10,000 ft?? Not in that helo.
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Wrong, it has a service ceiling of over 15,000 feet. However I will argue that no where in that video were they ever at 10,000 feet.
But this all off topic, I think I am in for one
Mo just confirmed that the unlocked version supports VoLTE/Wifi calling.
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Mo just confirmed that the unlocked version supports VoLTE/Wifi calling.
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That's nifty. The unlocked s7 and s7 edge doesn't have this cooked in the firmware
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Ok, let me get this straight. The unlocked one supports all the necessary bands for proper T-Mobile (US) use. Is this correct? I use both AT&T and T-Mobile and plan on swapping sims in and out as i need them. (I travel a lot)
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Ok, let me get this straight. The unlocked one supports all the necessary bands for proper T-Mobile (US) use. Is this correct? I use both AT&T and T-Mobile and plan on swapping sims in and out as i need them. (I travel a lot)
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Seems so, yes.
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Ok, let me get this straight. The unlocked one supports all the necessary bands for proper T-Mobile (US) use. Is this correct? I use both AT&T and T-Mobile and plan on swapping sims in and out as i need them. (I travel a lot)
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Yeah pretty much. You'll be good to go. I can do this on my unlocked s7 edge but I don't get volte and wifi calling on tmobile because it's not baked into the international firmware
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The other advantage is you can use T-Mo's installment plans that aren't available thru HTC.
Updates may be slower as T-Mo has to bless them. At it's also unclear if HTC's uh-oh protection and bootloader allowance will carry over thru T-Mo.
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The other advantage is you can use T-Mo's installment plans that aren't available thru HTC.
Updates may be slower as T-Mo has to bless them. At it's also unclear if HTC's uh-oh protection and bootloader allowance will carry over thru T-Mo.
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You can make interest-free payments for 12 months when purchased through HTC.
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You can make interest-free payments for 12 months when purchased through HTC.
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two things
it says for well qualified purchases - so if you have less than perfect credit you wont get it
and it says no payments + no interest if paid within 12 months - unless you wait and make a $599+tax payment in month 12 you need to be making payments to avoid paying interest.
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two things
it says for well qualified purchases - so if you have less than perfect credit you wont get it
and it says no payments + no interest if paid within 12 months - unless you wait and make a $599+tax payment in month 12 you need to be making payments to avoid paying interest.
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It's true but if you read the fine print on T-Mobile's site for financing phones the best deals (zero down usually) say for well qualified buyers as well. Also why wouldn't you make monthly payments? I didn't say there was no monthly payments, I said it was interest-free for 12 months.
Anyway my point is there are options.
I bet they are one in the same lol
@Behold_this do recommend buying tmobile version or the unlock version?
I'm still not sure which model to go with: unlocked vs T-Mobile. Will T-Mobile Mobile HotSpot for tethering be able to work on the unlocked version?
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@Behold_this do recommend buying tmobile version or the unlock version?
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I'm not him, but I chose to go with the unlocked version vs. the T-Mobile version. Faster updates, won't have extra glued-in apps I don't want.
But who am I kidding, I'm on XDA, I'll have a custom ROM on this thing soon anyway.
With the $100 off HTC1008 coupon code, I'm leaning toward getting unlocked directly from HTC. Mo Versi's tweet (HTC VP Prod Mgmt) confirmed wifi calling/VoLTE are supported on the unlocked. This still leaves out T-Mobile newly deployed Enhance Voice, but I'm not concerned about that (my current calls with the S5 are just fine, without wifi calling, VoLTE or enhanced voice).
I would definitely buy the unlocked version!!! I just wish it worked w/ Sprint
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I agree with most here. I'd go unlocked.
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Ok, this is for all you guys who have imported before. i have never by the way. When the phone arrives and you insert your sim card, att/tmobile for example. will the phone automatically pick up the required signals to stay on your carrier and not roam to another? or do you have to set it to us what you want only?
Also one of the reasons i am choosing this phone is to have a phone that will be ready and capable of handling att's eventual takeover of tmobile. I would imagine that you will have to get an att sim card when that happens. But it is nice to be prepared Thanx
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Ok I should have asked this but it just crossed my mind.lol.. Since the phone is being imported will everything work correctly?Will I get the Us version of the market, etc?
Also is anyone else afraid of day one bugs?
yes, it's governed by the sim card. you put in an at+t sim card, it'll look for an at+t signal. same with tmobile.
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Well, the T-mobile SIM card will connect you to the T-mo network. The opposite for AT&T SIM card
It has pentaband HSPA+ though, so you'll get full speed with both networks.
Lol ok, seems simple enough. What confused me was i remember on my nexus s, there was a clickable box that allowed me to switch between the two. So i figured id ask
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Lol ok, seems simple enough. What confused me was i remember on my nexus s, there was a clickable box that allowed me to switch between the two. So i figured id ask
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I think you mean Data Roaming?
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Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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lol look at that picture then re-phrase your question...
And I'm sure you're thinking of just enabling data roaming. Just remember that if you're using a T-mo SIM card, your phone can't just magically start using AT&T for no reason...
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Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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Sure, you could click Network operators and see both networks listed. You would be denied from connecting to the network that doesn't match your SIM though.
Is the knownledge really so bad about GSM in the US that this seems like some kind of dark magic? It must really suck to be so controlled by the carriers whim. You can see it like terrestrial TV. When searching for channels you will pick up all channels that are broadcast (providing the signal is good enough) but you can't actually watch them unless you pay for them.
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Sure, you could click Network operators and see both networks listed. You would be denied from connecting to the network that doesn't match your SIM though.
Is the knownledge really so bad about GSM in the US that this seems like some kind of dark magic? It must really suck to be so controlled by the carriers whim. You can see it like terrestrial TV. When searching for channels you will pick up all channels that are broadcast (providing the signal is good enough) but you can't actually watch them unless you pay for them.
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Yes, it is this bad. No one knows how it works. Not their fault, its the fact that they think that the carriers are the ones that make the phones and give them to consumers, rather than the consumers purchasing phones and using the carriers as dumb network providers.
Ok. Ok... I figured it to be that way, but i wanted to make sure. Like i said i have never imported :/
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Ok. Ok... I figured it to be that way, but i wanted to make sure. Like i said i have never imported :/
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Just remember, it doesn't matter where in the world the phone comes from. If it supports the bands for the Network/SIM you're using, just put in your SIM and don't worry about it lol. Don't think of it as being an "international" phone. Its just a GSM phone.
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Ok, this is for all you guys who have imported before. i have never by the way. When the phone arrives and you insert your sim card, att/tmobile for example. will the phone automatically pick up the required signals to stay on your carrier and not roam to another? or do you have to set it to us what you want only?
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I was on T-mobile USA a few years ago when living in the States; started off with pre-paid and moved to a contracct plan. From what I remember, the pre-paid SIM cards don't let you roam on Cingular/AT&T but the contract SIM would. It depends on inter-carrier arrangements so it's best to ask a T-mobile rep about this.
And in doubt, I'd suggest disabling data roaming if you're in area where you can't reliably connect to your normal carrier!
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I was on T-mobile USA a few years ago when living in the States; started off with pre-paid and moved to a contracct plan. From what I remember, the pre-paid SIM cards don't let you roam on Cingular/AT&T but the contract SIM would. It depends on inter-carrier arrangements so it's best to ask a T-mobile rep about this.
And in doubt, I'd suggest disabling data roaming if you're in area where you can't reliably connect to your normal carrier!
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There was a reason why I wasn't posting anything here. I knew stuff in US was a bit different....... So like what hircus said, ask a T-mobile rep.....
In Malaysia where I live, the only contract phones that actually sell in great numbers is the iPhone. Our contracts plans are quite bad and buying an unlocked phone and putting your own SIM card is a cheaper on the long run. Oh, (not too sure for the iPhone), in Malaysia when you buy a phone on contract, the phone is not "locked" to a specific carrier... go figure......
Ok I should have asked this but it just crossed my mind.lol.. Since the phone is being imported will everything work correctly?Will I get the Us version of the market, etc?
yes, the market is sim card dependent you'll get the US market and services (like google voice), no worries.
is this the GSM or CDMA / LTE version?
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according to the Bestbuy Ad it is the i9250m or HSI925BR
Since it's for Bell and Virigin in Canada, it can only possibly be the GSM/HSPA+ version. The CDMA/LTE model is specific to Verizon and won't work for anyone else.
i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones
Yep... no chance you'll get it off contract, pretty sure of that lol.
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i can almost bet damn Bell will not sell those phones without a contract like Telus / Rogers did with launch phones
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Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.
I just got back from bell and put my $50.00 deposit and yes there are selling the phone outright. $649.00 and it's 16gb..
Does anybody know if the Canada version will have Tmobile USA 3G/4G bands? I'm thinking it may be cheaper overall to buy the Canada version then it would the UK/International version.
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Base on Samsung and BestBuy Canadian site, it do support the 1700 and 2100 HSPA bands.
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Hopefully some Canadian friends will find out for us if this thing has microSD slot, because Samsung Ca website list that it does, but BestBuy Ca website doesn't say so.
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I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.
I talked to Bell about 2 days ago, you have to be already a Bell customer or a new customer on a new contract, to buy. They will not sell outright at least for the first month of sales.
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I'm using the phone right now. There's no external memory slots.
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this was expected, it'd have been real cool if it did include it though
I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?
I'm gonna guess they'll be unlocked but I have no solid information, just using the Nexus S last year as a proxy (was never sold locked in Canada despite what the carriers said).
Also it might be easier to get it from Virgin Mobile if you want to just buy it outright, which is what I'll try - their supertab or whatever dumb thing they call it then just cancel immediately after.
why cant verizon make ad like that and post it on their website ughhh i am getting sick of verizon
i wouldn't be worried about the SIM lock
you can always go online to have it unlocked
heck even just across the street inside Eaton Center lower level there's a cell phone kiosk there that does unlocking
I hope that's not the case. I'd much rather get it from Canada than from across the pond.
They won't be locked.
If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.
Not according to this...
http://community.futureshop.ca/t5/T...y-Nexus-previews-Android-s-future/ba-p/330548
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If you buy if from Futureshop or Best Buy you will be able to buy it outright. If you go to a Bell store they won't let you buy it without signing up for at least one month of service.
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Probably another 35 or so for "activation fee" if you do that. I think they only waive the fee for new contracts.
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I'm planning on buying on Thursday and using my Telus SIM. I don't mind buying a 30 Day for $30 to get it a month early. I'm already paying $649.99 plus taxes for the phone. What's $30 after that?
What I am hearing is some confusion as to whether Bell is locking the phones. I thought that was just them assuming, until I heard that some UK carriers had locked them too. Has anyone heard anything definite about locked/unlocked?
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Hoping to get some info, before purchasing:
can I use the TMO version of the Note 3 with Lycamobile in the US, and with local sim cards in Europe?
Would it need to be unlocked for each individual sim? Or is there a way to unlock for use with any sim card, no matter the country?
I'm currently still using my trusty old HTC Incredible 2, but it's time to find something newer.
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Hoping to get some info, before purchasing:
can I use the TMO version of the Note 3 with Lycamobile in the US, and with local sim cards in Europe?
Would it need to be unlocked for each individual sim? Or is there a way to unlock for use with any sim card, no matter the country?
I'm currently still using my trusty old HTC Incredible 2, but it's time to find something newer.
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I used my T Mobile note 3 ( unlocked ) in the UK with a Giff Gaff sim card no problems.
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I used my T Mobile note 3 ( unlocked ) in the UK with a Giff Gaff sim card no problems.
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Thanks!
Did you get it unlocked by T Mobile?
Did it work with Giff Gaff "automatically", or did you have to enter the APN etc.?
I plan to purchase the phone outright, and not get a plan with TMO.
From reading online, it sounds like there is not just the sim lock to deal with, but also a region lock.
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Thanks!
Did you get it unlocked by T Mobile?
Did it work with Giff Gaff "automatically", or did you have to enter the APN etc.?
I plan to purchase the phone outright, and not get a plan with TMO.
From reading online, it sounds like there is not just the sim lock to deal with, but also a region lock.
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Giff Gaff sent me the text messages that automatically configured the APN. I used cellunlocker to have the SP locked removed before going to London , UK.
If you have a n900t there is no region lock and i used it overseas. It's my understanding that sim unlocked phones are the ones that are region locked.
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If you have a n900t there is no region lock and i used it overseas. It's my understanding that sim unlocked phones are the ones that are region locked. View attachment 2590915
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Excellent! Thank you!
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Excellent! Thank you!
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On a slightly different topic, I really enjoyed unlimited talk and internet and text for a mere 10 quid a month :good:
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On a slightly different topic, I really enjoyed unlimited talk and internet and text for a mere 10 quid a month :good:
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Yeah! I used giff gaff in the UK and NI last year. Amazing cell plan prices over there! Fonic/Lidl in Germany is not bad, either.
How do you like the Note 3 in general? I'm trying to justify spending that kind of money on a new phone, especially since my old one still works.
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Yeah! I used giff gaff in the UK and NI last year. Amazing cell plan prices over there! Fonic/Lidl in Germany is not bad, either.
How do you like the Note 3 in general? I'm trying to justify spending that kind of money on a new phone, especially since my old one still works.
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Indeed, I agree. Legere from T Mobile has a long way to get to those standards if at ever... Although he is trying this side of the pond.
I moved up from a Galaxy S4 which I only had for about 1 month before going to a Note 3. Prior to that I was an IOS person for 4 years or so since being in the USA. No regrets, was a bit of a learning curve mind
Learning curve is good! I like a bit of a challenge!
Thanks for the feedback!
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Learning curve is good! I like a bit of a challenge!
Thanks for the feedback!
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Anytime buddy, enjoy your trip and be safe
I bought a T-mobile Z2 Force from eBay and it's on the way to me right now.
I have to say I was too excited to get A z2f before I carefully study the post of how to unlock sim lock. I've been searching solutions after I won the bid. It worries me right now since I am not sure whether I can unlock it to other GSM networks (I'm outside of US with no tmobile network around).
Can anyone share some idea please? Anything will be good, thanks.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3661401
I just went through this whole process. The easiest way to get an unlock within a reasonable time frame, is to activate it on TMobile prepaid, and add $100. I'm really thinking about going on a social media campaign against their unlocking rules. They are completely unnecessary for devices purchased outright.
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I just went through this whole process. The easiest way to get an unlock within a reasonable time frame, is to activate it on TMobile prepaid, and add $100. I'm really thinking about going on a social media campaign against their unlocking rules. They are completely unnecessary for devices purchased outright.
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Let me know if you go on a social media platform, I'm with you.
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I just went through this whole process. The easiest way to get an unlock within a reasonable time frame, is to activate it on TMobile prepaid, and add $100. I'm really thinking about going on a social media campaign against their unlocking rules. They are completely unnecessary for devices purchased outright.
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About how long did it take?
So I have 4 days left to return the At&t phone. I went ahead and started a $100 prepaid account and selected the $75 data plan with unlimited everything. Does the account balance need to be $100 or the account plus plan count?
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So I have 4 days left to return the At&t phone. I went ahead and started a $100 prepaid account and selected the $75 data plan with unlimited everything. Does the account balance need to be $100 or the account plus plan count?
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It just needs to be you added $100 to your initial start up cost. So you went to say Walmart and bought the Sim card there. You activate it then put in $100 then that's in. Use the phone for a couple days then request an unlock. That's why people have done on T-Mobile customer forums for the past 6 years or so.
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It just needs to be you added $100 to your initial start up cost. So you went to say Walmart and bought the Sim card there. You activate it then put in $100 then that's in. Use the phone for a couple days then request an unlock. That's why people have done on T-Mobile customer forums for the past 6 years or so.
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So I'll need to add an additional $75?
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So I'll need to add an additional $75?
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$1. Just needs to exceed $100. Since you didn't buy a kit you need to add $1. I think the lowest you can add is $5 though.
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The lowest is $10. I went ahead and did that and called T-Mobile. Now I just have to sit and wait. If this doesn't work I'm going to be pissed.
The device is listed as a return therefore ineligible to be unlocked. Anyone on T-Mobile want it?
I have a SIM card that will allow a Tmobile phone to be unlocked. Has the $100 prepaid balance. Ill sell for $50.
My previous device had a strange issue with the IMEI, so I returned it. TMobile customer service says I am absolutely eligable. Device just needs to be paid off and come up as clean on T-Mobile's esn check.
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The device is listed as a return therefore ineligible to be unlocked. Anyone on T-Mobile want it?
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Listed as returned? First time I have heard of that.
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Listed as returned? First time I have heard of that.
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Edited to block phone number and email address. The phone's IMEI comes back as clean on T-Mobile and swappa.
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Edited to block phone number and email address. The phone's IMEI comes back as clean on T-Mobile and swappa.
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That's odd. If it is marked as return I think someone may have bought the promo sold one and returned the other instead of both. Then sold you the other.
Check with T-Force on Twitter and see if they can give a better explanation of it.
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That's odd. If it is marked as return I think someone may have bought the promo sold one and returned the other instead of both. Then sold you the other.
Check with T-Force on Twitter and see if they can give a better explanation of it.
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I don't have Twitter. I have yet another unlock request pending, but I'm not expecting anything to happen. I have it listed on eBay. This whole situation has been incredibly frustrating.
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I don't have Twitter. I have yet another unlock request pending, but I'm not expecting anything to happen. I have it listed on eBay. This whole situation has been incredibly frustrating.
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You can also use Facebook but Twitter gives a way faster response. May be worthwhile just to make a Twitter account just to talk to them.
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You can also use Facebook but Twitter gives a way faster response. May be worthwhile just to make a Twitter account just to talk to them.
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I'm not seeing anything under T-force on Facebook that is phone related.
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I'm not seeing anything under T-force on Facebook that is phone related.
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They are T-Mobile help. Let me see if I can find their landing page on T-Mobile. They have all the links there.
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They are T-Mobile help. Let me see if I can find their landing page on T-Mobile. They have all the links there.
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I even made a Twitter lol.
I don't know what the hardware differences are between the different carriers' models. Can I use either of the bootloader-unlockable/rootable variants (Sprint or T-Mo) on Verizon?
Failing that, has anyone started a bounty to get Verizon rooted and/or bootloader-unlocked?
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I don't know what the hardware differences are between the different carriers' models. Can I use either of the bootloader-unlockable/rootable variants (Sprint or T-Mo) on Verizon?
Failing that, has anyone started a bounty to get Verizon rooted and/or bootloader-unlocked?
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I started one for Att but have since given up and switched to Sprint. So far I regret nothing. I guess being the two biggest carriers Att and Verizon have a little more push on what manufacturers can and can't do.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the T-Mobile model will work if you're lucky/patient enough to get it unlocked.
svtdragon said:
I don't know what the hardware differences are between the different carriers' models. Can I use either of the bootloader-unlockable/rootable variants (Sprint or T-Mo) on Verizon?
Failing that, has anyone started a bounty to get Verizon rooted and/or bootloader-unlocked?
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From looking at the spec sheets only the Verizon version will work on Verizon. All the other versions doesn't support band 13 by model numbers that in itself gives Verizon the power to block it even if you hack to unlock band 13.
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Freaking Verizon really pisses me off, because I'm kinda stuck with them...
I've been with them for about 11 or 12 years or so and I'm grandfathered in on a very old unlimited data plan that's pretty cheap by today's standard and this being a flagship phone and all...
Anyway I had the pixel XL first and returned it because even it was locked down and got the z2 force just because of the moto mods.
Yeah VZW kinda sux...
47th_Ronin said:
Freaking Verizon really pisses me off, because I'm kinda stuck with them...
I've been with them for about 11 or 12 years or so and I'm grandfathered in on a very old unlimited data plan that's pretty cheap by today's standard and this being a flagship phone and all...
Anyway I had the pixel XL first and returned it because even it was locked down and got the z2 force just because of the moto mods.
Yeah VZW kinda sux...
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The problem is OEMs. They don't want to put in band 13 on all their devices. If they did then Verizon has to comply with Block C rules. Since OEMs don't want to pay for licensing and put in code that Verizon has to open source. They would rather have Verizon pay for it then that comes with restrictions.
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So I just checked Moto Z2 Force official site again and unless I'm mistaken they're now selling an unlocked model with VZW support.
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So I just checked Moto Z2 Force official site again and unless I'm mistaken they're now selling an unlocked model with VZW support.
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Went to try and buy the Z2 Force and this is what I am able to buy.
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Went to try and buy the Z2 Force and this is what I am able to buy.
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The page title at https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-edition-gen-2 says "unlocked," but interestingly I can't find any use of that term anywhere on the page itself. Go figure.
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The page title at https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-force-edition-gen-2 says "unlocked," but interestingly I can't find any use of that term anywhere on the page itself. Go figure.
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It will be SIM unlocked BUT you will have to pick a carrier and it will have the carrier goodies built in. There's no unlocked one without the carrier bloat and built in features. You have to pick Verizon to get it on Verizon iirc, but anywhere you buy the Verizon version it's unlocked anyway.
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It will be SIM unlocked BUT you will have to pick a carrier and it will have the carrier goodies built in. There's no unlocked one without the carrier bloat and built in features. You have to pick Verizon to get it on Verizon iirc, but anywhere you buy the Verizon version it's unlocked anyway.
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Ah OK. I just ordered one from Best Buy due to their $200 off offer which makes the phone $550something in total payments. That, IMO, makes it the best value for money right now.
jdrch said:
Ah OK. I just ordered one from Best Buy due to their $200 off offer which makes the phone $550something in total payments. That, IMO, makes it the best value for money right now.
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If you want to Rom and root the T-Mobile and Sprint version is the way to go, but sadly those won't go on Verizon.
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Tidbits said:
If you want to Rom and root the T-Mobile and Sprint version is the way to go, but sadly those won't go on Verizon.
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I live in IA. T-Mobile has no offices near me and Sprint loses service as soon as you get more than 20 miles out of town. Verizon is my only option for reliable service, sadly.
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I live in IA. T-Mobile has no offices near me and Sprint loses service as soon as you get more than 20 miles out of town. Verizon is my only option for reliable service, sadly.
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Best bet is go to Walmart and buy a cheap prepaid phone. Test it out where you travel a lot. Make some calls do some data. If everything is legit switch to T-Mobile if not you are not out much. That's what I did and I am glad i did. Saved myself $150 A month AND I can choose any device I want.
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Best bet is go to Walmart and buy a cheap prepaid phone. Test it out where you travel a lot. Make some calls do some data. If everything is legit switch to T-Mobile if not you are not out much. That's what I did and I am glad i did. Saved myself $150 A month AND I can choose any device I want.
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Appreciate the suggestion.