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Hello. So this is my 6th GNexus that I received today, because I just seem to be getting phones with the same dark screen (in my eyes they are dark). This is at 25% brightness.
Or maybe I'm used to my first brand new one that was just perfect to me? It was naturally bright. The current one I have seems good, but the keyboard is darker and in the notification greys and browser bar grays u can notice the color differences. When I go to a website that's background is reddish/organish it's pretty noticeable there.
As of me typing this, I spoke to Verizon and said if on my 7th GNexus (next one coming Thursday 3/29) had the same issue with the screen they'd be consulting it with Samsung to see if it's a software issue or the LED inside the screen is messed up or something.
Thanks. So how would you describe a "good" screen? Pictures appreciated, just making sure I don't have one that's fine and I'm freaking out about it.
Are you for real or just trolling?
Seriously? Complaining about a dark screen when you have the brightness set to 25%? The screen is supposed to be dark the lower you set the brightness at; that's just common sense, geez...
I think I've finally decided to stop coming to XDA. Coming to these forums just gives me a headache now. All the absolutely idiotic threads/posts by what seem to be either trolls or complete retards. /endrant
I'm for real.
It's at 25% brightness and I've held not one but two GNex in my hands that looked fine at 25%. Something is wrong.
If the forums give you a headache and you can't tell the difference between trolling and reality, welcome to the interwebz. /endrant.
Maybe the thread wasn't completely necessary, but there's the occasional decent person that likes to input on the situation.
Let's start by clearing your headache, you didn't need to reply, if it was a "idiotic thread by a troll or compete retard". Lol.
Let's look at the one constant between all 7 phones, you. I've got one guess where the problem is located.
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Let's look at the one constant between all 7 phones, you. I've got one guess where the problem is located.
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Okay, thanks. I appreciate you coming forth with a more reasonable reply.
In case I'm still being looked upon as a troll, does anyone know the symptoms for a "bad" screen? I searched and read the thread about what's okay and not for a Galaxy Nexus screen but seems like I have some good stuff and some bad stuff, which is confusing.
User error. Obviously.
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So I'm guessing you've had a look at the sticky on this forum? I don't see what's so confusing about it? You either have unattainable expectations on what the screen 'should' be or your the most unlucky person ever. There's no way 7 devices in a row would be faulty.
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So I'm guessing you've had a look at the sticky on this forum? I don't see what's so confusing about it? You either have unattainable expectations on what the screen 'should' be or your the most unlucky person ever. There's no way 7 devices in a row would be faulty.
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Yeah, you got me thinking now, anyway here are some pictures, while I'm not a pro photographer I tried my best as I was in a hurry. These are taken from an HTC Thunderbolt. (25% brightness) These look right?
Anything odd in the color of the yellow coins in Temple Run?
Red and Brown seem odd to any of you?
Keyboard, here's where I really think it's a bit dark, look behind the keys. This is a screenshot but if the issue shows even in the Android OS Screenshot.. isn't that an issue?
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Yeah, you got me thinking now, anyway here are some pictures, while I'm not a pro photographer I tried my best as I was in a hurry. These are taken from an HTC Thunderbolt. (25% brightness) These look right?
Anything odd in the color of the yellow coins in Temple Run?
Red and Brown seem odd to any of you?
Keyboard, here's where I really think it's a bit dark, look behind the keys. This is a screenshot but if the issue shows even in the Android OS Screenshot.. isn't that an issue?
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i think a visit to your friendly neighborhood eye doctor will do wonders. or an eyepatch so the looks you get won't be so bad.
Ehh a nice amount of sarcasm there but, that can mean 2 things good or bad, so you think it's alright?
Looks fine. I've seen pictures that were easily worse.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
Okay, thanks huge sigh of relief.
So the other ones I had that were brighter, were just different screens but they weren't bad (nor was this one)? Right?
Looks just fine to me.
You have the brightness at 25% though? If the screen on another one looked fine at 25% (maybe a demo in the store?) maybe you should think about the lighting where you used it. If it was inside and fine at 25% but you are using yours outside at 25% then that is likely the problem. The brightness needs to be higher in brighter rooms / brighter days.
Try setting it to auto and see if it works fine for you that way. If it does, then you are using it as intended AND it works for you, so no worries. Remember, it is an AMOLED display and is designed to be more power efficient than other displays, so having it on auto should be just fine.
I personally set mine to 20% on another phone (totally different type of display, though the backlight itself might be similar, IDK) and its fine until a bit of sunlight hits it. I then switch it back to auto when I exit a building or enter a place with those obnoxiously bright halogen lights.
I suspect that is the issue you are having, how you are using it vs how it is designed to be used.
I know what you mean. But the 3rd GNex and the first I had, everything on the phone was literally brighter on 25% brightness. So I guess every phone has a different screen? (The phones with working/good) screens.
What I mean by "brighter" is for example the background of the keyboard set when your going to type a message, it varies a lot in brightness from phone to phone.
Just got a One X and thankfully all the reported 'defects' don't seem to be there. However the screen colours are far too warm. The biggest problem is with flesh tones looking very reddish. Its best illustrated by taking a picture of my hand with the camera, which shows up very red indeed. However if I import the picture to my PC its acceptable. My screen is Acer which supposedly runs colder than Sharp and Sony, but thats not my case.
Should I exchange my unit? I have 48hours to return the phone with no questions asked. Its perfect otherwise and I heard that the warmness disappears over time. If true, how long does it take for the warmness to normalize. Also is there a software available now or in the near future that would solve this (rom, mod, etc.)?
PS> I'm still on 1.28.415.9 because I haven't received an update yet.
I just tried using "Screen Adjuster" from the Play Store, but the results were horrible. I really need to know whether the warmness subsides overtime because otherwise I have a perfect unit and don't wanna gamble it away for a creaky, ripply, dead pixel unit.
I passed by the store and compared my phone to the two display models and a sealed unit. All three had the excessive red hue warm colors as mine. When I say excessive I mean very excessive. Its best viewed with the Mirror application. It almost makes me look like I'm fluorescent pink Almost the color of this icon.
Someone please chime in. How red do you look in the Mirror app?
I'm begging here, someone please acknowledge my existence and answer my simple question. Does the Mirror app make you look red/pink like your are badly sunburned?
SOMEONE PULLLLLEAHSE ANSWER
Hello, i just tried and have the same problem.
I didn't try outside on daylight ...
Looks like my skin is too vascularised ...
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Hello, i just tried and have the same problem.
I didn't try outside on daylight ...
Looks like my skin is too vascularised ...
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Thanks so much for answering me. Vascularised is a great way of putting it. I can almost see the blood flowing through my capillaries. I hope this is just a software issue. Outside in daylight its much much better.
HTC should have added a light in front panel.
And after "vascularised" it has a litlle "drunk" effect.
After ZombieBooth, HTC just invented DrunkBooth ...
I tested the front camera some more using Skype. It seems that there are two reasons for the red hue. The camera software is messed up, and so is the screen itself. When using Skype the image from the front camera looks very red on the phone, but it doesn't look as bad on the PC (although still red). This leads me to believe that the camera software is not calibrated, and the screen further compounds the problem. I'm hoping 1.29 update will help a bit.
I just ordered this phone as lost my optimistic 3d. If this is a problem with all sets I can't understand its not mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen. Hopefully means forward is a bit messed up
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I just ordered this phone as lost my optimistic 3d. If this is a problem with all sets I can't understand its not mentioned in any of the reviews I've seen. Hopefully means forward is a bit messed up
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Well as far as I'm concerned I have not seen, or heard of, any One X unit that doesn't have this problem. So far I have personally examined 6 phones that have this problem (all worse than my phone). Also three XDA users have also confirmed this (one on this thread and two in other threads). I have yet to see or hear that a One X exists out there which does not have an extremely red hued front camera.
Until someone confirms otherwise, it seems to me to affect ALL One X's.
In camera settings, put the saturation to -1, this looks far more realistic. However, I don't know if it looks the same on another device as is does for me. For all I know, it could be making my hand white for the pc.
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thom109 said:
In camera settings, put the saturation to -1, this looks far more realistic. However, I don't know if it looks the same on another device as is does for me. For all I know, it could be making my hand white for the pc.
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Thanks that helps a bit. I'm sure HTC will have to fix up the camera software in an upcoming update because this is just unacceptable.
I had the same problem on my old N7 and went through 2 of those as well...
I've got some pretty bad backlight bleeding at the top/center of the screen. Literally looks like a dark grey to black gradient across the status bar. Other than that the screen looks pretty good. I say pretty good because I still think Asus could take a tip from Samsung in the display dept. But better color reproduction and contrast than the old N7 and love the 19x12 res. I'm gonna really enjoy reading on this thing once i get a good one. I just can't handle backlight bleed; it's a pet peeve of mine. It's going back to Best Buy tomorrow and I hope they have one more in stock for me. To anyone buying one, I would open it in store and check it out before leaving. My Best Buy is 30min and a load of traffic away.
Anyone else having this problem?
No backlight bleeding like my old nexus had. I haven't noticed any problems with mine , they really upped the quality with that $30 increase from last year
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I had the same problem on my old N7 and went through 2 of those as well...
I've got some pretty bad backlight bleeding at the top/center of the screen. Literally looks like a dark grey to black gradient across the status bar. Other than that the screen looks pretty good. I say pretty good because I still think Asus could take a tip from Samsung in the display dept. But better color reproduction and contrast than the old N7 and love the 19x12 res. I'm gonna really enjoy reading on this thing once i get a good one. I just can't handle backlight bleed; it's a pet peeve of mine. It's going back to Best Buy tomorrow and I hope they have one more in stock for me. To anyone buying one, I would open it in store and check it out before leaving. My Best Buy is 30min and a load of traffic away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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You're one of the fortunate victims of first-batch-problems...
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You're one of the fortunate victims of first-batch-problems...
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I hope for your sake it's a problem limited to the first batch. Looks like it's hit-and-miss like the old nexus because the new one I just got home with looks pretty good.
Good luck to everyone else (check it at the store!)...
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I hope for your sake it's a problem limited to the first batch. Looks like it's hit-and-miss like the old nexus because the new one I just got home with looks pretty good.
Good luck to everyone else (check it at the store!)...
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i think google's letting asus too much on the free rein. there's been better quality control on the previous nexuses, apart from asus. do try to chck out how sammy made the n10. that's what we can compare with n7 (both) and cry and curse asus.
seeing all that, I'm waiting for the next batch to come out, since I don't have enough reaources to replace a device once bougjt, so I just won't be taking any chances.
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My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
there is backlight bleed top center
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My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
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I have a 16gb second gen nexus 7 gotten from staples..and i see noticable back light bleed towards the top center just like the user here is reporting....im hoping in a few weeks they correct this...im waiting for the 32 gig version anyway...this will go back to staples..the screen though is vastly improved except for that bleed i've noticed....and depending on how you hold display you see weird blue colors and like a sunset red....occassionally
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I have a 16gb second gen nexus 7 gotten from staples..and i see noticable back light bleed towards the top center just like the user here is reporting....im hoping in a few weeks they correct this...im waiting for the 32 gig version anyway...this will go back to staples..the screen though is vastly improved except for that bleed i've noticed....and depending on how you hold display you see weird blue colors and like a sunset red....occassionally
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Agree. I have my 32GB that's going back for different reasons. I'll just wait it out and watch everyone here, to see when these issues are minimized. Screen's amazing. Way better than anything else I've ever seen.
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My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
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as I said, google's probably giving asus free rein too much, and asus is putting all that axe on our necks. They should be considerate about quality, because quality only is what matters. see all the good specs going down the drainage.
Mine only has it at the top like you, but its only noticeable during really dark scenes in a poorly lit area. Most IPS display will show some sort of light bleed. Speaking from experience, if its not one thing, then its another. Everything else is excellent. No dead pixels, popping sounds from the speaker, etc, etc. I swapped my N4 3 times before I got a unit that I thought was pretty good. And even then, its still not perfect since it too has some light bleed. If it really bothers you, then prepare yourself for what could possibly be a goose chase. :good:
Hello world who happen to own the Beautiful OnePlus 3!
I received mine today and thus far am loving it.
However, there is something I noticed. The right half of my screen seems to be slightly darker, if only very slightly. I can only see this on medium to darker greys (but it may show on others I just can't tell because I'm colourblind).
Is anyone else seeing this sort of thing, or is this just something that happens with AMOLED displays and RMA-ing it is likely to get a worse one back?
I've got some pictures but it's really hard to tell in them due to the environment so I've opted to not upload them. I can try and retake them though later on if needed.
Just asking around to see if anyone else has encountered this.
It may be I'm getting used to it or it may be getting better but it seems to not be as prominent right now actually. (just checked)
Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
It rocks. Get it.
i love my phone. im coming from the OG pixel
all the negative reviewers are just dumb imho
I highly recommend it for fun on XDA! But it's your decision...
I love the phone too. Only grip is the fingerprint reader. Finger needs to be dry & clean. Otherwise it won't work well.
Go for it. I upgraded to P2XL from Nexus 6
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kel29738 said:
Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
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I have had mine for nearly two weeks and it is absolutely stunning. Yeah I have a bit of the blue shift (to be expected on most OLED displays) that I don't mind at all, haven't seen much burn-in at all but have moved over to immersive mode via ADB until they release some additional screen fixes/improvements to try and help with it, haven't seen any black smearing whatsoever, etc. In regards to the bland colors, Google announced saturation mode that I imagine will come with the December release? This will be x amount more than the current vibrant mode or whatever it is, I believe it is +10%+, not certain on how much more saturation mode will be, if you dig more vibrant colors and all. I actually prefer, the more true-looking, duller colors but do have vibrant mode turned on (not much of noticeable difference), will play around with "saturation mode" once available but will likely stick with the duller look, saturation mode may be good for video viewing/editing and watching movies/videos.
Like the first poster said, the phone is great, does not get warm, incredibly fast and feels buttery smooth, the battery life is phenomenal, 2 years of warranty and 3 years of OS updates. Could not be happier. I almost got 50 hours out of my phone the other day, probably would have but needed to head out so wanted to throw it on charger, ended up charging it at 7% and about 48 hours off charger, granted I barely had screen on (4 hours) as it was a busy weekend where I didn't need my phone much but all in all very impressed as I have quite possibly every little battery sucker turned on on the phone. I did do some GPSing, lots of music, texting, some snapchatting, lots of Twitter feeds loading, etc. but I'd say mostly light to moderate use, impressed nonetheless.
In the end, it is your choice but I could not be happier with my purchase and would do it all over again, had I known about screen issues upfront.
EDIT: I take back the saturation mode coming in December release.....it is here and available in the November release. I will post screens to a different thread and can provide a link to it later but just thought I'd let you all know.
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Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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Yes
Disregarding screen issues that don't even bother me personally. The colors I know will be fixed either by Google or of not with root and custom kernele we will be able to fix that. The phone is amazing. If you do paranoid about the screen stop at a Verizon location and look at it even if you don't have verizon, but I don't recommend buying in through Verizon! :highfive:
I've had mine almost 2 weeks and really haven't found any reason to not love it.
I did a comparison of the screen / blue tint HERE if you want to see a bunch of side by side comparisons.
But honestly, like I've told everyone who's asked: get one, keep it a week, use it play with it, run it through your daily use, and then make the call to keep it or return it.
Nearly every aspect of liking a device is subjective to each person's individual likes and tastes.
I'd hate to see you cheat yourself out of a great device because someone else said it sucked, or had this flaw.
Get it. If you hate it, or just can't get over the blue tint, return it and move on
No one knows better than YOU what you'll like.
If you have to ask, then the answer is NO!
The device is only for self-minded individuals.
If you like a good screen then no
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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Did it? It didn't provide the dimming of the home back and recent buttons to help prevent burn-in? It didn't update brightness configs? It wasn't just colors...
And yes not all batches have the burn-in or even the severe blue tinting issues. I have no signs of burn-in and compared my phone to another P2XL and my blue tinting is hardly visible when my buddies is easily noticed. He does not have any noticeable burn-in either.
I understand that a lot of it is hardware related but there can be improvements on software side to help make the screen last as long as possible as we all know OLEDs decay over time regardless. Is it sub par, it very well may be, but to the average user I dont know if they will notice it being sub par versus superb. I honestly have zero gripes with screen, it is highly objective, but so is the term "good screen".
And, as I mentioned in my post, in the end it will be up to the end user to decide if the screen is bad or not.
I love my Pixel 2 XL. It's the best phone I've ever used and that's with five years of selling phones.
The screen isn't as good as Samsungs. I wish that it was, especially considering the price tag. But the screen is not bad but any means. The blue tint is a design choice. It doesn't bother me. I would like a wider color gamut than just the RGB colorspace and the new "saturated" option just seems to make everything more saturated as opposed to just enabling super saturated colors to be displayed. I find that very disappointing. But that is fixable...
I could go on and nitpick the rest of the phone, but truly the reason to buy this phone above all others is the software. It's buttery smooth. It makes the other companies software look bit silly.
I would recommend the phone. It was otherwise perfect for me if not the screen, and the screen is not that bad especially after the OS update yesterday. I don't see any graininess. I like the natural color more (and now you can change to saturated mode), there is very slight screen burn in or image retention (which I have to look for it by downloading a screen test app and adjust the screen brightness and environment lighting to be able to see, normally I just can't see it). The worst about the screen for me is the blue tint. It was very noticeable when I first switch on the phone, perhaps I specifically look for it after reading all the comments everywhere. After using it for a week, it becomes less and less noticeable. And now in the saturated mode, the blue tint becomes the normal color I am used to, while the normal color when viewed straight on becomes a vibrant and saturated one that everyone else wants.
However, I agree with others that you can go to a verizon store and have a look yourself. And buy and try for a week then decide whether you want to return it.
If google had gone with a samsung panel this would have been the best phone every
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If google had gone with a samsung panel this would have been the best phone every
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And more RAM, and a headphone jack... I would agree absolutely.
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