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When I started to make programs with some SMS and phone features, soon I noticed that I can send SMS in hidden mode and dial phone too.
Even without user's attentions at all (no notification).
Without screen backlight turned on.
Without log of activities (no items on phone log and Sent folder).
We know that in MS Smarphone OS this is blocked in the program's "privilege". But on Phone Edition devices this is opened.
Just imagine:
- somebody (everybody?) can write the application like the game or popular PIM and put inside the hidden SMS. First, it can read your contacts, numbers, anything... and then send by SMS without your knowledge or just notification.
- another situation: some program can send SMS all night every minute and charge your cellular network account quickly and seriously.
Are you sure, you don't have such a kind of application inside your device right now?
I'm not.
I'm looking for solution. In panic!
Ok. I can turn-off the phone service and I'm sure nothing will go outside.
But of course in the same time nothing will come in too.
PPC2002 and WM2003 do not give any options to turn off only outgoing services, or to turn off SMS service only (with phone runs continuously).
My propose is:
- block all outgoing SMS except the original Inbox/New dialog
- block all outgoing Calls except the original Phone dialog
In most cases it should be an enough protection.
Of course, this is one side. Another one is: I want to occasionally use another software to send SMS and make a Call. So, the application should allows me to mark which other programs can send SMS or dial Call. These programs I must know as "trust". And this is my risk I unlock them. The example is MY|MESSAGE where I can quickly reply to last SMS just from Today Screen, without Inbox dialog opened.
Please share your opinions.
- is it a serious problem?
- is my solution is enough?
- is it necessary to mark another applications to use SMS?
- mark permanently or maybe temporary only?
Or maybe you have another solution?
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Below are screenshots of my proposition.
I think I will realize the personal version as freeware.
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The application runs as "service proccess". You don't have to put it on Startup folder and (IMPORTANT) it does not take the running tasks limit on XDA. Additionally, just for "eye-catching" convenience I added the small icon on TodayScreen, to be sure it runs. The icon can be hidden. it does nothing.
1. Does it make a log file or show a message on block?
2. How much space does it take?
3. What about making a usual firewall - make all programs ask before they can use any of the wireless services (GSM, SMS, GPRS)?
In case there really will be a firewall (maybe as a plugin only) it should block unauthorized access from the internet. :idea:
in current status of developing:
11kB of service
20kB of settings dialog
(most) applications with GPRS features you can decide when you "connect"
so I focus on SMS and dialling
But if you can use phone
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Even without user's attentions at all (no notification).
Without screen backlight turned on.
Without log of activities (no items on phone log and Sent folder)
you can probably use GPRS, too. Further more, if the program goes off while I'm sleeping, I can't stop it! :?
And what about the usual firewall?
PS: Are you planning to post it?
the firewall does not block SMS (or I dont know)
I mean a program, that would block all unauthorized access: phone, sms and both incoming and outgoing internet connections.
If any application wants to use one of things mentioned, user would see a message on screen and could customize apps that have free access.
I mean a program, that would block all unauthorized access: phone, sms and both incoming and outgoing internet connections.
If any application wants to use one of things mentioned, user would see a message on screen and could customize apps that have free access.
JGUI, this looks cool...
but you make me little nervous, if this is possible...
Good work, keep on going...
Thanks.
Journal bar managed to initiate a gprs call without me knowing last month on a daily basis and i didnt notice until it had used 16 meg of data updating itself every day for a week, this cost me £34 which i wasnt happy about, there doesnt seem to be any way of locking or passwording the gprs connection?, i've had other programs use the connection when i connected to check my email and cost me money when i didnt want them to use it
Hi JGUI,
perfect! When do you expect release, please?
buzz
Ultra Paranoid mode on:
Who garantees your application doesn't do exactly what it say's it should prevent ?
1] Create a program that calls high-rate servicephonenumbers
2] make people scared about automaticly calling phones
3] offer a 'solution' and give the program for free....
4] get rich real fast...
Ok, i'm joking, but it could be just as real....
jpiek: absolute right
this is a very serious problem for me:
how to protect my application "solution" from that somebody can hack it and post the zip or setup file with the name of my application but with some hidden service inside.
Ok.
I can sign my setup with my PGP key, but... how many "mobile users" know and use PGP?
another way: if I post thie application as freeware there will be many web sites where they copy the file and give it away, this is the way where some hacked copies should appear. if I lock the freeware, and give away only a commercial setup, even with small price a few dollars, it should stop the above problem. becasue I decide where this setup will stay official, and users have not to ask me: "I downloaded your program from xxxx is it a good/latest copy?"
The problem in fact is also a feature
I can use a PC connection dialing my ISP provider, connecting to my MDA via bluetooth. On my MDA i see no notification at all that the modem is working (I do not use the Wireless Modem app, but simply use the MDA as a bluetooth modem)
"spb gprs monitor" controls your gprs connection and procesing
Have you considered releasing your app as donationware? (if that exists?)
Just let people download it and use it for free but ask for a small donation from people that use it regularly,
I'm not sure if this idea would work as it relies on trust, but maybe people would appreciate this method of release and it may sidestep the problem of cracked software?, not sure
JGUI said:
jpiek: absolute right
this is a very serious problem for me:
how to protect my application "solution" from that somebody can hack it and post the zip or setup file with the name of my application but with some hidden service inside.
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Have you thought about a free registration online ? You could do a CRC check or whatever before handing out a free registratoncode. Then you can be shure the org. code of your application isn't changed...
Even signing with PGP/GPG is problematic; how do people verify that the key is yours? Application signing (like the process mandatory for smartphone apps) "solves" that by having "trusted" CA keys in the device; but I doubt it even displays who signed an app. And if it did, would people notice that it was signed by Joe Bob, and not JGUI?
And even if it IS signed by JGUI, that doesn't tell me anything either. Perhaps his key was stolen, maybe his development pc was infected with a virus that ended up in the executable, perhaps even JGUI himself is a nasty hacker, there's simply no way to know..
Of course, something is better than nothing, but a simple SHA1 hash of the setup file on the author's website isn't that much worse than the whole PKI thing. That would mean a hacker would have to hack both the application AND the website, at least for those who check that sort of thing.
Smartphone code signing in practice: http://www.msmobiles.com/article.php/52.html
i think i should hit the panic button, i think the best way is for this SW to track such services, so say i installed it & it cought a program trying to do that it reports it to me telling me SW so & So was trying to call or send SMS or soforth, in this case we avoid these programs all together
I'm sure, I will not sleep tonight... (I see myself sitting in the dark and dialing customer service all night just to have my account balance)
do not make (at least) your own life harder!! :lol:
ym
Hello All Mobile Gurus There I Want Ur Help To Resolve Me A Big Problem.....
1} Whenever My Mobile Is On Cradle And If I Get A Sms Or Call At That Time - My Phone Freezes { Sometimes } And Stops Responding To Anything And Than Have To Finally Reset It By Putting The Stylus In At The Bottom....
Sometimes My SmS Is Stored In Inbox As Unread And Sometimes I Loose My Sms Message.....
And In Case of Calls I Dont Even Get To Know Who Is Calling Since The Mobile Freezes Before Showing The Popup Of the Name Of Person Or Number Who Is Calling Me..... All I Get To See Is The Phone Icon Next To Signal Strength Indicator...... My Friends later Tells Me That Why U Were Not Answering The Call It Was Ringing.... So I M Loosing On Most Of My Calls......
2} Also These Freezing Problem Is Not Only When I Get Call Or Sms While On Cradle...... Sometimes While My Mobile Is On Cradle And If After Some Interval Of Time I Click On Start Button On My Mobile It Freezes And Stops Responding To Anything Without Opening The Start Menu.....
3} These Freezing Problem Is Not Only When My Mobile Is On Cradle But Also While Using It { While Palying Games Or Using It Generally } Sometime It Freezes.....
I Dont Know Whts Wrong With My Mobile All Of Sudden From Past Few Days..... { Since After I Downgraded From WM5 Tuma v1.4 }
4} Also Phone Application Of My Mobile Really Sucks..... When I Click On Any Contact To Dial In Call History List The Call Gets Connected But The Screen Still Gets Stuck At Call History Display Only.... This Is Really Bad At Times when I Want To Give Missed Calls Since I Wont Be Able To End The Call Bcoz The Screen Is Showing Me Call History And Have Freeze For { 30 secs Or 1 min. } Only After Than It Will Show Me The Incall Screen....
Also Sometimes When I Dial A Number And Click On Talk The Call Gets Connected { Also The Phone Icon Is Displayed On The Top } But The Screen Is Stuck At The Same Thing Showing Me Default Phone Screen { Instead Of Showing Me "Dialing" Or "Duration Of Call - Mins.sec" }
5} Sometimes My Display Switches On Itself After Sometime..... This Is A Real Big Bug Bcoz Of These My Mobile Brattery Runs Out Very Soon....
Bcoz I Never Know When My Mobile Display Turns On Automatically When In Pocket....
Can These Problem Be Causing Because Of Microsoft .NET CF2.0 { I Have Installed This To Run RemoteProtect Software }
All These Problems Altogether is Making Me Go Mad.....
Please All The Gurus Of Pocket PC Out Here Help Me Solve This Bugs...
Plz Plz Plz Plz Plz Plz Plz Somebody Help Me.........
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Ok, here goes, seeing as I dont even have your device, but out of sympathy for your plee for help.... here goes. Mine are in uppercase for clarity... NOT SHOUTING...
Hello All Mobile Gurus There I Want Ur Help To Resolve Me A Big Problem.....
THERE ARE NO PHONE GURUS REALLY, JUST SOME PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP OUT OTHERS.
1} Whenever My Mobile Is On Cradle And If I Get A Sms Or Call At That Time - My Phone Freezes { Sometimes } And Stops Responding To Anything And Than Have To Finally Reset It By Putting The Stylus In At The Bottom....
Sometimes My SmS Is Stored In Inbox As Unread And Sometimes I Loose My Sms Message.....
And In Case of Calls I Dont Even Get To Know Who Is Calling Since The Mobile Freezes Before Showing The Popup Of the Name Of Person Or Number Who Is Calling Me..... All I Get To See Is The Phone Icon Next To Signal Strength Indicator...... My Friends later Tells Me That Why U Were Not Answering The Call It Was Ringing.... So I M Loosing On Most Of My Calls......
OK, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE A FAULTY DEVICE, SEND IT BACK.
ALTERNATIVELY, YOU CAN SEARCH THESE FORUMS TO ANSWERS FOR MANY OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOVE.
YOU CAN TRY:
1. DISABLING "FEEL GOOD" PHONE INTERFACES, AND USE THE INBUILT STANDARD, CONSUMES LESS MEMORY, LOADS FASTER
2. TRY TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NOT TO MANY APPLICATIONS RUNNING SIMULTANEOUSLY TO TAKE UP MEMORY
3. IF YOU HAVE SD CARD MEMORY READERS ON YOUR TODAY SCREEN, GET RID OF THEM.
4. ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE THE MESSAGING TODAY ITEM SHOWN ON THE TODAY SCREEN ITSELF
5. MINIMISE THE USE OF RING TONES, AND TRY TO USE ONLY SMALLER FILE SIZE RING TONES
6. IF YOU HAVE PHOTO CONTACTS, STOP, FOR TESTING PURPOSES
7. TRY POSTING SOME STATISTICS FOR YOUR DEVICE PROGRAM AND STORAGE MEMORY, IMMEDIATELY AFTER A SOFT RESET
8. AN OUTLINE OF WHAT YOU ARE RUNNING SIMULTANEOUSLY ON YOUR TODAY SCREEN AND IN YOUR STARTUPS, AND IF NOT A CLEAN RESET, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY RUNNING AT THE TIME
9. IF YOUR DEVICE HAS MULTI NETWORK CAPABILITY SUCH AS GSM AND UMTS, TRY TO SELECT THE ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY MOST SUITED TO YOUR SPECIFIC NEEDS RATHER THAN SWITCHING BETWEEN MODES
10. REDUCE, ELIMINATE OR OTHERWISE CEASE HAVING ANYTHING THAT APPEARS ON YOUR TODAY SCREEN AS BEING INSTALLED (EVEN SHORTCUTS AND LINKS) THAT RELATE BACK TO A MEMORY CARD.
11. HOW MANY CONTACTS ARE YOU RUNNING? I SAW THIS PROBLEM OCCUR WHEN ONE USER HAD ABOUT 1000 CONTACTS PLUS, AND COULDNT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM IN DELAYS!!! TRY LOOKUP SEARCH AND CROSS REFERENCE CALLER ID'S IMMEDIATELY WHILST "A SLEEP".
2} Also These Freezing Problem Is Not Only When I Get Call Or Sms While On Cradle...... Sometimes While My Mobile Is On Cradle And If After Some Interval Of Time I Click On Start Button On My Mobile It Freezes And Stops Responding To Anything Without Opening The Start Menu.....
M$ AND DODGY PHONE DEVICES THIS MAY OCCUR. YOU MAY FIND ADDRESSING THE ABOVE, MAY HELP THIS. MY PHONE TENDS TO CRASH MORE OFTEN RATHER THAN LESS OFTEN WHEN I HAVE MULTIPLE REMINDERS QUEUED AND I HAVENT DISMISSED THEM. ESPECIALLY SO WHEN IT IS TRYING TO ANNOUNCE IT, OR WHEN MSVC WAS TRYING TO ANNOUNCE.
IT CAN BE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR MESSAGE QUEUE'S AND YOU MAY HAVE MULTIPLES, THUS WHEN IT WAKES UP, IT IS ALSO CHECKING OUTSTANDING MESSAGES.
YOU CAN TRY SCARY BEAR NOTIFICATIONS AND HAVE A LOOK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE REMINDERS OF THE SAME, BUT BE VERY CAREFUL.
I TRIED TO USE THIS TO FIX, BUT ALAS, SCREWED IT SO BAD, ONLY A HARD RESET COULD RESOLVE MY PREDICAMENT.
3} These Freezing Problem Is Not Only When My Mobile Is On Cradle But Also While Using It { While Palying Games Or Using It Generally } Sometime It Freezes.....
I Dont Know Whts Wrong With My Mobile All Of Sudden From Past Few Days..... { Since After I Downgraded From WM5 Tuma v1.4 }
IF YOU ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CAN START TO WORK WITH THIS, BUT IT IS LIKELY THE SAME PROBLEM.
I WOULD SUGGEST IT MIGHT BE RUNNING OUT OF MEMORY. IN PARTICULAR WITH GAMES, IT APPEARS TO WANT TO STORE THE SCREEN PICTURES FOR EASE OF REFERENCE AND RECALL LATER. YOU WILL SEE THIS WHEN A PROGRAM OR WINDOW SUCH AS EXPLORER, ALWAYS LOADS FASTER THE SECOND TIME THAN IT DID THE FIRST TIME.
THIS ISNT SUCH A PROBLEM USUALLY, AS MOST SCREENS ARE RELATIVELY STATIC SHOWING THE SAME PICTURE TIME AND AGAIN. GAMES ARE NOT, WITH THE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND PICTURES, I FIND THE DEVICE TENDS TO RUN LOW ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES, UNTIL IT JUST HANGS. HOPEFULLY NOT IN A RECORD BREAKING RUN. I TEND TO SAVE AFTER A SHORT PERIOD, EXIT, AND RESET, PARTICULARLY WITH HIGH RESOLUTION CONSTANTLY MOVING ANIMATED GAMES.
4} Also Phone Application Of My Mobile Really Sucks..... When I Click On Any Contact To Dial In Call History List The Call Gets Connected But The Screen Still Gets Stuck At Call History Display Only.... This Is Really Bad At Times when I Want To Give Missed Calls Since I Wont Be Able To End The Call Bcoz The Screen Is Showing Me Call History And Have Freeze For { 30 secs Or 1 min. } Only After Than It Will Show Me The Incall Screen....
ODD. NOT SURE I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO. IT IS QUITE HARD TO READ WITH ALL THE CAPITALS. I CANNOT RELATE TO THIS, BUT AGAIN PERHAPS REVIEWING THE ABOVE MAY LEAD TO THIS RESOLUTION.
Also Sometimes When I Dial A Number And Click On Talk The Call Gets Connected { Also The Phone Icon Is Displayed On The Top } But The Screen Is Stuck At The Same Thing Showing Me Default Phone Screen { Instead Of Showing Me "Dialing" Or "Duration Of Call - Mins.sec" }
CANT HELP, AGAIN, GO BACK TO MY FIRST COMMENT, NOT HAPPY SEND IT BACK.
WE AGAIN, NEED MORE DETAILS AS TO WHAT IS RUNNING AT THE TIME, AND HOW LONG SINCE YOU ACTUALLY DID A FULL HARD RESET.
I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN A STAGED HARD RESET FOR FAULT FINDING. THAT IS, FOR EXAMPLE:
1. HARD RESET
2. TEST THE PHONE, SMS ETC SEND AND RECEIVE
3. INSTALL YOUR MOST COMMON APPS (LIST PLEASE) DONT SYNCHRONISE DATA
4. TEST YOUR PHONE AND SMS'S WITHOUT ANY SYNCHRONISED DATA.
5. REPORT THE DETAILS OF PROGRAM AND STORAGE MEMORY.
6. SYNCHRONISE YOUR DATA
7. TEST AND REPORT STATUS, INCLUDE MEMORY AGAIN.
5} Sometimes My Display Switches On Itself After Sometime..... This Is A Real Big Bug Bcoz Of These My Mobile Brattery Runs Out Very Soon....
Bcoz I Never Know When My Mobile Display Turns On Automatically When In Pocket....
LOCK ALL BUTTONS BUT THE POWER BUTTON. ENSURE IT IS TURNED OFF CORRECTLY WHEN PLACED IN THE POCKET. TURN OFF REMINDERS TO STOP WAKE UPS. ENSURE THE DEVICE TURNS ITSELF OFF AGAIN AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME.
WIND BACK THE RESOLUTION OF YOUR SCREEN SO IT IS ONE BEFORE THE LOWEST. SCREEN TAKES A LOT OF POWER, SO MINIMISE ITS BRIGHTNESS, AND AUTO TURN ITSELF OFF BOTH SCREEN AND POWER AFTER ONLY A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
Can These Problem Be Causing Because Of Microsoft .NET CF2.0 { I Have Installed This To Run RemoteProtect Software }
YES, ALONG WITH HEAPS AND HEAPS OF OTHER POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.
HERE ARE SOME COMMENTS OF MINE FROM OTHER FORUMS ABOUT SIMILAR TOPICS....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52497&highlight=slow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41614&highlight=slow
Sorry if these are universal related... but in the main the same principles apply.
Regards
Simon
Great Help SIMON !!
Whew !!!!!!!!
Simon that was Indeed a long reply..
who says ppl on this forum are Not helpful?
Next time anyone says This..I shall send him This link...
Some guys here Put the HTC ppl to shame......
U guys are just great here on XDA-Dev
Regards,
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I had the frezing problem with my BA. It was caused by an error in the connection of the cradle with the phone. Correction of contacts alignment solved the problem.
I had the frezing problem with my BA. It was caused by an error in the connection of the cradle with the phone. Correction of contacts alignment solved the problem.
Hey Simon Thanks A Lot....... Really Appreciate Ur Help.....
Hey Simon Thnks A Lot for the reply.........
This was indeed very much appreciating help one can give to anyone......
Heres the list of applications and games installed on my mobile :-
Softwares :-
Fast CleanUp
Midlet Manager
Softatics My Converter Pro
Nero Deluxe { Remote Control }
Pocket LCD { To Test The Screen Pixels }
Remote Protect
Resco File Explorer { Also Registry And FTP Addin, But Not Today Plugin }
Reset
Sim Messaging
Resco Spy { Spy - No need to Describe }
Time Me { Countdown Timer }
Word Book { Pocket Dictionary }
IIWPO
Batti
Microsoft Voice Command
QOTD { Today Plugin - Just A Normal App. Showing Quotes On Today Screen }
Xrgomics Tengo { Alternative Input Application }
Microsoft Runtime Visual Files
Microsoft .NET CF2.0
O2 Connect
GS Player
TCPMP { All Media Player }
Real One Player
Games :-
Amazing World
Astrology
Atomic Cannon
Hellfire
Dreamway
Chess
Plumbin Frenzy
All These Softwraes ANd Games Listed Above Are Installed On My Mobile.....
I Have Organised The Shortcuts Of All These Softwares As -
Start Menu/Dipesh/Applications
Start Menu/Dipesh/Multimedia
Start Menu/Dipesh/Games
Start Menu/File Explorer
could you identify for me which are installed on the device, which to extended_rom (if unlocked), which to SD card. Also whether they are today plug in or not.
Do you have some backup software so we can test these issues further...
I mean literally, backup, hard reset, and perform progressive tests.
BA freezing..
With my old XDAIIs - it was the O2 connect software causing it to feeeze.
When I bought it - i nearly took it back aftera week cos I had to reset it so many times.
It can be uninstalled - rather than hard-resetting.
The wife uses it now and it never freezes at all.
Charlie Grillo
pending your reply as to location... which was the crux of it, but will try now...
Hmm you dont appear to have a task terminator such as SPB or Magic Button, how are you controlling your memory utilisations?
Heres the list of applications and games installed on my mobile :-
Never heard of these but all have the sounds and potential to be really well and truly slowing up your device and overloading if they come anywhere near close to running at the same time:
Fast CleanUp
Midlet Manager
Softatics My Converter Pro
Nero Deluxe { Remote Control }
Pocket LCD { To Test The Screen Pixels }
Remote Protect
Reset
SIM Messaging
Resco Spy { Spy - No need to Describe }
Time Me { Countdown Timer }
Word Book { Pocket Dictionary }
IIWPO
Batti
QOTD { Today Plugin - Just A Normal App. Showing Quotes On Today Screen }
Xrgomics Tengo { Alternative Input Application }
Microsoft Runtime Visual Files
These I have heard of and should be all ok. MSVC takes about 3mb on bootup, so if you are looking at memory issues and if you have lots of contacts. Also if contacts have multiple of the same phone number id eg a general office line, it struggles ...
Resco File Explorer { Also Registry And FTP Addin, But Not Today Plugin }
Microsoft Voice Command
GS Player
TCPMP { All Media Player }
Real One Player
hmmm... this one looks suspicious....
O2 Connect - THE LIKELY CAUSE FROM WHAT I HAVE READ.
This one may perhaps possibly also contribute
Microsoft .NET CF2.0
Never heard of these, but would hope, expect, assume that you have these installed onto an SD card.
But, alas, I know nothing of these games.
Games :-
Amazing World
Astrology
Atomic Cannon
Hellfire
Dreamway
Chess
Plumbin Frenzy
An example of potential problem with the short cuts was "Pocket Skype" installed by default, but was such a large file, that calling up the picture of it in normal explorer took ages, i mean seconds and seconds and more seconds...
All These Softwraes ANd Games Listed Above Are Installed On My Mobile.....
I Have Organised The Shortcuts Of All These Softwares As -
Start Menu/Dipesh/Applications
Start Menu/Dipesh/Multimedia
Start Menu/Dipesh/Games
Start Menu/File Explorer
oh yeah, you may have missed the line entry by oversight, but I recall a very big forum on SMS crashing devices, and feel it could be SIM related, but personally strongly feel that a lot of the problem went away if you have the default M$ today plug in for messaging active and running.
You may also see some academic debate about having the default folder setting, or the folder chosen when you exit and leave it running, should be your text messages, not outlook, not hotmail, not any other pop account.
Just appears a lot of your initial complaints related to SMS's and notifications.
Hey Simon.......... All Installed On Mobile........
Hi Simon
Well all the softwares and games tht i have mentioned are installed on mobile nothing is installed on SD Card....... { on SD card i got all the songs and videos }
Well and theres only 1 software as Today plugin { QOTD - Quotes Of The Day }
On ROM - IIWPO And Batti
Plz Ket Me Knw If U Need Any Other Information........
some suggestions:
it would probably be better if you install them in your SD card, it gives more memory for the programs to run.
get SPB pocket plus that can close (not minimize) your applications. this one you should install in your device.
remove O2 connect.
upgrade to wm5 with helmi 1.3.
So, I managed to upgrade to Kavana 6.1 on my own (yeeeaaah). I got a couple of questions though.
I followed the update with pics thread. Apart from the fact that it should state (for newbies like me) that you need to unzip the chosen ROM and run THAT RUU but anyway... at the end on the thread, it shows how to configure various things like wi-fi, texts etc... My question is, is it possible that mine did that all on its own? Because I did not get those images asking me what setup to get and the keymap/keyboard works fine, the wifi works, so far everything works, it even picked up T-Mobile on its own. Anything I should know? Second of all, the quote below... does not make sense in the English language. Please be more specific because I can't seem to get active sync to work. Thank you.
To Get ACTIVE SYNC to work after this:
Do this with the USB cord DISCONNECTED from the computer.
Scroll down or up to the settings panel.
Select
Scroll right or left to USB to PC.
Select
UNCHECK the first option.
Connect the USB cord after you click on ok.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Settings\USBtoPC untick advanced network functionality, do you get data if not then Connection Setup needs to be run.
Also if you want predictive off FN+SPACE in a text input box ABC.
That's it all done
well on your sliding panels homescrren the very last pabel is settings scroll over till you see the usb to pc panel cick on it and uncheck the first box.
lol sorry stlez gues we responded at the same time lol
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lol sorry stlez gues we responded at the same time lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No need to be sorry lol
Got it. It wasen't clear that it had to be done on the cell itself.
So, is it possible that all the settings have been setup all fine on their own?
What about Tegic multi languages, I tried it on WM6 and it did not have the et9 for Italian for example and the mapping was all wrong. Does it work only for WM6.1?
Thanks.
What is the up and down sign next to E? I guess its the jogger thing?
I love 6.1 so far.
Anyone?
So far the ROM is really good, but I got a couple of questions.
1) I think I solved the issue by deleting a draft text I had, but at times the phone would just vibrate without me getting a text or missed call, etc. Is this something that has occurred to others? Or you think it was just the draft text?
2) I was wondering if the et9Tegic with 14 languages works solely on WM6.1, reason I ask is because I installed it on WM6 and it did not have the et9 for say Italian. Maybe it was conflicting with Tegic-US?
3) I went on wifi, connected to my own connection that I have home, went on skyfire, and after a bit, the phone went sort of crazy on me. It would just click and move on its own. I had to turn off the phone in order to restore it to normal. Anyone know the answer to this? Should I worry? Is it frequent? I re-went online when I restarted it and it was fine, but I wonder if anyone had this issue.
4) To setup a background image, is 320X240 the whole screen, or does it cutoff the menu bar? If so, what is the actual visible size of the image?
5) I didn't have to go through the whole setup and was wondering if its normal that it setup sms, mms, wifi and everything else on its own.
Thanks.
Capitan Totti said:
Anyone?
So far the ROM is really good, but I got a couple of questions.
1) I think I solved the issue by deleting a draft text I had, but at times the phone would just vibrate without me getting a text or missed call, etc. Is this something that has occurred to others? Or you think it was just the draft text?
2) I was wondering if the et9Tegic with 14 languages works solely on WM6.1, reason I ask is because I installed it on WM6 and it did not have the et9 for say Italian. Maybe it was conflicting with Tegic-US?
3) I went on wifi, connected to my own connection that I have home, went on skyfire, and after a bit, the phone went sort of crazy on me. It would just click and move on its own. I had to turn off the phone in order to restore it to normal. Anyone know the answer to this? Should I worry? Is it frequent? I re-went online when I restarted it and it was fine, but I wonder if anyone had this issue.
4) To setup a background image, is 320X240 the whole screen, or does it cutoff the menu bar? If so, what is the actual visible size of the image?
5) I didn't have to go through the whole setup and was wondering if its normal that it setup sms, mms, wifi and everything else on its own.
Thanks.
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We're you using the jogger to scroll when it went all crazy on you? That happened to me a while back , when I was using the jogger to scroll , it would not stop scrolling up or down. What worked for me was to set the jogger to use only for speaker volume and and for the wmp.
The backgrounds will use the whole screen at 320x240 size. I do all my images at 320x240 and they display perfect.
You shouldn't have to do anything on sms,and mms, other than connection setup, for your country and carrier, unless you get the mms problem that some people get.
For wifi, it should work right away,but to be able to connect, you have to set up your wireless network if you're at home or work, by searching with the phone's wifi and connecting and then providing the usual, (network type,authentification,data encription,network key) .
stylez said:
No need to be sorry lol
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alright next time i won t be
roloracer said:
We're you using the jogger to scroll when it went all crazy on you? That happened to me a while back , when I was using the jogger to scroll , it would not stop scrolling up or down. What worked for me was to set the jogger to use only for speaker volume and and for the wmp.
The backgrounds will use the whole screen at 320x240 size. I do all my images at 320x240 and they display perfect.
You shouldn't have to do anything on sms,and mms, other than connection setup, for your country and carrier, unless you get the mms problem that some people get.
For wifi, it should work right away,but to be able to connect, you have to set up your wireless network if you're at home or work, by searching with the phone's wifi and connecting and then providing the usual, (network type,authentification,data encription,network key) .
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I wasen't using the jogger but I might have touched it involuntarily. Once I tried it again I know I did not touch it and it was fine. I guess I will also set it up like you suggested.
I didn't have to setup anything as far as SMS are concerned and I haven't tried to send or receive MMS yet, but once I completed the RUU the phone went on cold booting on its own and restart it fine all on its own. Wifi same thing, no need for me to do anything, I just connect fine anywhere.
Another thing it does, if I use the jogger or not, it pops up something telling me that dimlight should be kept at something like -t instead of -m? How do I get rid of that thing?
I got a bigger problem now. The phone at times just vibrates on its own without getting any sms or mms or missed call... What is it?
Thank you.
The -t and -m thing refers to the LowLight program. By default it's activated by tapping/touching the jogger 3 time within 10 seconds.
I was playing with it, after a new upgrade, last night.
Apparently you *are* touching the jogger...probably without realizing it.
Chuck
chuckknight said:
The -t and -m thing refers to the LowLight program. By default it's activated by tapping/touching the jogger 3 time within 10 seconds.
I was playing with it, after a new upgrade, last night.
Apparently you *are* touching the jogger...probably without realizing it.
Chuck
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Lord knows THAT is easy enough to do, lol!
When I first bought my Dash, it had WM 5 on it, and there was a setting for JOGGER sensitivity. Not one of the "cooked" ROMS I have used here have such a setting, thus even breathing on the JOGGER can set it scrolling/clicking madly.
How about it Kavana, NRG, Rickywatts? Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the JOGGER?
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Lord knows THAT is easy enough to do, lol!
When I first bought my Dash, it had WM 5 on it, and there was a setting for JOGGER sensitivity. Not one of the "cooked" ROMS I have used here have such a setting, thus even breathing on the JOGGER can set it scrolling/clicking madly.
How about it Kavana, NRG, Rickywatts? Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the JOGGER?
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The only way that I know to adjust any type of sensitivity on the jogger is the speed of it. The faster you set it , the more sensitive it will be to the touch, and viceversa.
So, I think I figured the vibration. I was closing the Texts when I saw it pop up in the conversation, you know 6.1 has threaded texting, so I thought it would send it once it popped in, but I noticed that you still got to wait for the OK Info to come up to confirm the message has been sent. So far all good and no more vibration. So far...
Joggr don't matter. I set it to adjust volume only since I use the keys to scroll up and down.
1) What about the fact that I didn't have to setup anything (WiFi etc)? Is the setting up something that only non-USA resident have to do? Or...?
2) And does anyone have an MSN Messenger (or something close to it) that works on TEXTS and NOT data? I looked everywhere but nothing! Thank you.
3) I tried to look up here on xda and on Google, key mapping... kmap... notepad kmap... etc, but nothing. What I would like is et9 that has the USA Dash keyboard layout (keeping the t for CeleTasks of course) but also et9 for US English and Italian. I installed the et9TegicFull but the keyboard layout is UK English. I modified the .txt files in the et9 folder but the tab and symbol keys do not work except for writing 0 and going to the camera. Anyone?
4) When I restart the phone, the options on the media sliding panel on the home screen work fine. If I click on images, it goes to images, if I click on profiles, it goes to profiles. However, I noticed that the wifi one works fine at first, but after 3 times or so that I use it/click it, it stops working and to get on wifi I have to go to Start>CommManager and click on wifi icon. Even when I click on the right soft key (when on the media sliding panel home screen) which is connection settings, and I click on commmanager there with the center key... nothing. It clicks, but doesn't go anywhere. Why?
Thank you.
Anyone please?
1) If your router is not encrypted then it would just connect, if it is encrypted you must have put in a key.
The rest if set up don't worry generally have to run connection steup.
2) You want OZ Messanger think only jdog & Mikey know how to set up?, You could set up Yahoo on home computer and when people sent message will come to phone and can reply via text.
3) Not sure what you mean does nothing work?
4) Sounds like a hard-reset needed bruv as never had probs with Commanager on Kavana's
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1) If your router is not encrypted then it would just connect, if it is encrypted you must have put in a key.
The rest if set up don't worry generally have to run connection steup.
2) You want OZ Messanger think only jdog & Mikey know how to set up?, You could set up Yahoo on home computer and when people sent message will come to phone and can reply via text.
3) Not sure what you mean does nothing work?
4) Sounds like a hard-reset needed bruv as never had probs with Commanager on Kavana's
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1) I mentioned wifi just to make an example. I didn't have to setup anything like carrier sms mms etc but I see in the guides that some people do? Mine just restarted fine.
2) I have unlimited texts. I have T-Mobile OZ Messenger and it works. I have AIM, ICQ and Yahoo. I was wondering if someone has an MSN program that works on texts. Also, I noticed that when I open the .cab file for the oz messenger on my desktop, it has an MSN file. I was wondering how to make that one show instead of ICQ. Maybe it will work?
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See how you can read MSN in there?
3) I never said nothing works... I asked to have a US Dash keyboard layout and et9 for English and Italian.
4) Sorry but what is bruv? What I am saying is, when you go down the last panel on the Home screen, you can choose from profiles to taskmanager to jogger settings and also wifi enabling. So, if I were to click on wifi, I would get a panel when I can click on/off. Ok? It works fine for the first 3 times I use, but then... when I click on the wireless manager on the home screen again, it doesn't go anywhere. Why? For it to work again I have to reboot the phone.
See...
This is Wireless manager...
When I reboot my phone, if I go to it and click on it... I get this...
But after a while, both this
and this (CommManager after I right clicked on connection settings, as you can see in the image)
when I click on them with the silver center button, do not work. Got it? Send To Phone
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Capitan Totti said:
1) I mentioned wifi just to make an example. I didn't have to setup anything like carrier sms mms etc but I see in the guides that some people do? Mine just restarted fine.
2) I have unlimited texts. I have T-Mobile OZ Messenger and it works. I have AIM, ICQ and Yahoo. I was wondering if someone has an MSN program that works on texts. Also, I noticed that when I open the .cab file for the oz messenger on my desktop, it has an MSN file. I was wondering how to make that one show instead of ICQ. Maybe it will work?
3) I never said nothing works... I asked to have a US Dash keyboard layout and et9 for English and Italian.
4) Sorry but what is bruv? What I am saying is, when you go down the last panel on the Home screen, you can choose from profiles to taskmanager to jogger settings and also wifi enabling. So, if I were to click on wifi, I would get a panel when I can click on/off. Ok? It works fine for the first 3 times I use, but then... when I click on the wireless manager on the home screen again, it doesn't go anywhere. Why? For it to work again I have to reboot the phone.
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1) Yes thats why the second sentence
2) Just use OZ if you got set up, MSN messanger does not do text.
3) I needed clarification don't think possible as can't have Tegic & T9full, Tegic English is US eT9 English is UK
4) You have something wrong if you cannot always access commanager, to which is why say hard-reset. "not normal behaviour" lol no need for pictures i'm not a noob
I know you are not. But maybe I was not clear.
1) Reason I ask if its cool that everything worked at once on its owns is because I was wondering if maybe later on I will encounter issues. Wanted to get them out of the way now.
2) So, there is no MSN Messenger or other program for WinMo that works on texts? Wow.
3) I could simply install the et9 Tegic Full with 14 languages and remap the notepad files. I did so, but I can't get the tab to work as a tab, it just types 0, and the symbol button just works for activating the camera or it writes an e'. I was wondering if I can change something in the notepad files to make those two work because other than that I fixed the problem. Anyone?
4) Alright, I will try hard reset. Will this delete everything or no? Anything I should watch out for? Thanks.
Capitan Totti , bruv is the same as brother, bro, broham, (bruv) . I'm in the US and know what he means.
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So IF VERIZON blames you for entering there... i don't care. My relationship with V ends when the logo goes off, but your case may be normal usage... or so.
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This is a summary of the issues and solving procedure from Zero2duo (thanks ):
calls out to ppl, i hear this "welcome to verizon, but we're sorry, we cannot authenticate your phone right now".
calls coming in, ppl calling go straight to voicemail...and i get a miss call on my end
just had a 20-30 min chat with verizon....got it sorted out, phone works again
turns out there system saw my old and new phones "active", so system was like "this phone number shows up twice" and then just put a block on the number
after the guy refreshed the system, phone works again
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Intro
As i could read many times, there is a submenu inside the ##PROGRAMNITT menu from the phone called "AUTHENTICATION KEY".
Ok,so you need some code that you dont have hum....let's play a bit.
note: this does nothing and doesn't let you hack the device or make coffee for you, it's a crappy result.
Mmm well, to start, you need a *unknown* length password, which you don't know, and also other values that you can't get from the phone itself, but you can fetch with tools. The download list goes as:
- RevSkills
- A-Key Calculator (http://www.superbank.ru/sms/)
- From the old times, the QualcommDIAG (old driver) or the SPST usb driver, so we get a COM port for the device. Both can be found on the forum itself. The best option is the bitpim guide, so you can know how to set the com port and yak yak yak.
Walkthrough
- Enter the ##PROGRAMNITT submenu and then activate the serial class mode within the "OTHER" submenu.
- Plug the kin
- Open revskills and set the port dropdown menu with your current phone com port (probably COM3)
- Go to the tab on this image, and press the "Read" button:
Write the ESN value (red square) / keep this window open.
- Open the A-key calculator, and input (write as is) the ESN value on the textbox (Note that it's a 8 hex char value, so put 0's on the left if doesnt). The right value will be updated while you type your ESN.
The result looks like this:
- Enter the "AUTHENTICATION KEY" submenu and type the updated value from A-key calculator & press "OK" button.
- Enjoy the... well does nothing for me so... who knows what's this for? unlocking the kin?
Note that i shadowed my values for security reasons... for the verizon customer, i guess, i dont use any of them .
Looks interesting. From what you've explained, you are not on a Verizon network (out of the country) and do not have an activated phone, correct?
I'm going to play with this later tonight, unless someone else beats me to it and convinces me not to.
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From what you've explained, you are not on a Verizon network (out of the country) and do not have an activated phone, correct?
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Outta the verizon network, outta the country. I'm from Europe. That's why i got some delay on the posts... rofl.
I knew i couldnt use it, I just bought the first kin for the lulz. I thought i was going to be able to hack it through IE bugs... meh, life shows you that things are not always as expected....
Anyone tested this yet on the Verizon Network? I know it sounds dangerous but it's worth a try. I believe I've bricked mine so I'll attempt it when I get it back to a serviceable state.
Here's to hoping.
Heratiki said:
Anyone tested this yet on the Verizon Network? I know it sounds dangerous but it's worth a try. I believe I've bricked mine so I'll attempt it when I get it back to a serviceable state.
Here's to hoping.
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Was gonna try it until you reminded me of a brick possibility. Eh, my kin is only 2 weeks old, I'll try it tonight.
Eh, no brick here. I tried it on my 2m. Calculated the hex key, entered it into the phone, it said stored and that it required a reboot. I exited the ##programnitt menu, then phone rebooted.
Nothing appears different. Bitpim still has access to the same folders.
On a side note, RevSkills is a crazy program! John, have you used any of these other tools? on a kin or other phone?
GrandSportX said:
Eh, no brick here. I tried it on my 2m. Calculated the hex key, entered it into the phone, it said stored and that it required a reboot. I exited the ##programnitt menu, then phone rebooted.
Nothing appears different. Bitpim still has access to the same folders.
On a side note, RevSkills is a crazy program! John, have you used any of these other tools? on a kin or other phone?
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seconded, just got my authentication key and entered it, and phone still works. Now if only it actually triggered/done something in our favor.
GrandSportX said:
On a side note, RevSkills is a crazy program! John, have you used any of these other tools? on a kin or other phone?
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I tested all the tools, all the programs i could run on a virtual and normal machine long time before developping KinO.
"Nothing to see here" is always the answer. The phone memory couldnt be readed with this programs, and nothing access the phone, apart the cdma data, which is like meh for me (no cdma usage for the settings). As even SPST uses MTP driver for firmware (not the COM port driver), i guess all feasible with com ports is just cdma settings.
Also you can write something that mess your phone and that things....
Maybe other users from this forum (whole xda) know what's this for in cdma phones. I got any comunications knowledge, apart the network software needed for me.
me= noob post
heyyo so i tried this but rev skills keeps crashing when i tell it to read ( i set it com3 which is where bitpim and my compy say the phone is) and sad face taht it doesnt change anything has anyone looked at the logs after entering the key?
edit nm my compy worked the kin screen needs to be on
so i entered the key last night and somehowmy phone can send or receive messages or calls... so i restored it adn now it works. also a red light appeared where the light sensor is...
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also a red light appeared where the light sensor is...
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That was always there for me during boot time. It just flashes for a little time, anyway.
It's extrange that only 1 reported it. If it's a common issue, i will change the advice to a bigger one, so you could know before messing things up.
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so i entered the key last night and somehowmy phone can send or receive messages or calls... so i restored it adn now it works. also a red light appeared where the light sensor is...
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Did you mean that "you cannot make phone calls or receive them when you entered the key"?
Weird thing (pretty sure it isn't because I entered the Authentication Key), my bro activated his HTC Thunderbolt yesterday and when I try calling him, after 2 rings, I then hear a voice that says "welcome to verizon, but the number you are dialing cannot be reached". My calls to him don't go through, but he can call me. I am thinking it is because I had blocked all the data services (thru My Verizon except for the Pic/Txt MMS) and since the Thunderbolt is a smartphone, I cannot make calls to it.
So I unchecked "blocked all data", and will try to call my bro's phone again once I officially get an email from verizon stating that my features that been updated. I will also call up Verizon later today and ask them what's up.
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my bro activated his HTC Thunderbolt yesterday and when I try calling him, after 2 rings, I then hear a voice that says "welcome to verizon, but the number you are dialing cannot be reached". My calls to him don't go through, but he can call me. I am thinking it is because I had blocked all the data services (thru My Verizon except for the Pic/Txt MMS) and since the Thunderbolt is a smartphone, I cannot make calls to it.
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If it was both things, i would really think about the Auth change, but receiving/calling separately OK is pretty much weird.
I would call to a home number or another number, if any. Dunno how 3g/cdma works to call another phone and if it's data or normal usage.
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If it was both things, i would really think about the Auth change, but receiving/calling separately OK is pretty much weird.
I would call to a home number or another number, if any. Dunno how 3g/cdma works to call another phone and if it's data or normal usage.
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Just tried calling other family members cells and house number, and I still get the "welcome to verizon, but we're sorry, we cannot authenticate your phone right now".
So I think it's safe to say that entering the A-Key did this. I went back to the hidden menu, and tried to "disable" the Authentication Key, but it just asks me to enter it and nothing more.
Any ideas to "disable" the Authentication Key? Besides this
Clear Storage memory (reset phone)
* Hold C+B+ Power
* Prints a Phone image (and reboots)
Hate to have to re-enter my contacts again.
Update: did the Clear command, tried calling, and still get that "welcome to verizon, but we're sorry, we cannot authenticate your phone right now" msg. Gonna call verizon; hopefully it's an easy fix on their end and I won't need to get a new phone.
I updated the first post, so the user knows what could happen. I don't see the point of the authentication then. Unless it dissengages you from verizon, but receiving must be done withing a mobile network, so all it's pretty much weird.
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Any ideas to "disable" the Authentication Key? Besides this
Clear Storage memory (reset phone)
* Hold C+B+ Power
* Prints a Phone image (and reboots)
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Try to export your contacts from the submenu, so you can download the xml and, at least have the ones you had previously to a CB operation. You can try to reupload it with kino and try to import after rebooting. Nothing is assured but worths a try (at least the export part is feasible).
I'm sorry about the CB requirement, but that's expected when playing with unknown things in a production phone.
As this could change things, and i dont loose anything, i will check what the changes are in the logs files (like "skipping verizon connection" messages).
OK just called verizon (20-25 min chat), after the 1st rep couldn't fix it, she found a tech who could. Basically, he said that their billing system saw two instances of my number (they were saying maybe when I activated my Kin, that I had my old phone on and that caused the problem...we know what caused it though), so he refreshed the system. Then had me re-activate my Kin via *228. Then after rebooting phone, outgoing and incoming calls work...also txt msg does too.
Before doing the Clearing button command, exported contacts to my laptop. Then after phone was working again, tried importing it back in but got this error msg "can't import contacts right now because there is non-compliant XML in the contacts file". Guess I will just go to a verizon store and get it transferred from the old phone.
Here's a little summary of everything john (if you wanna put this info in the 1st post):
calls out to ppl, i hear this "welcome to verizon, but we're sorry, we cannot authenticate your phone right now".
calls coming in, ppl calling go straight to voicemail...and i get a miss call on my end
just had a 20-30 min chat with verizon....got it sorted out, phone works again
turns out there system saw my old and new phones "active", so system was like "this phone number shows up twice" and then just put a block on the number
after the guy refreshed the system, phone works again
Great to hear about the solving procedure being done. Then the menu and the option would probably be a manual introduction into the verizon network, as you would do for entering the company from others (Sprint maybe?). I guess that's done auto on their side, but this menu allows you to do it too.
I dunno why you all get the contacts error. As i just imported the xml from klamation ok.Maybe yours has more data than "name, phone number" values.
i will export my full one and see what happens, when i'm a little ... less bored so i can reboot several times hehehe.
PS: quoted on first post.
johnkussack said:
I dunno why you all get the contacts error. As i just imported the xml from klamation ok.Maybe yours has more data than "name, phone number" values.
i will export my full one and see what happens, when i'm a little ... less bored so i can reboot several times hehehe.
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I was able to successfully upload the contact file from klamation (got 215 of those BOB contacts). Then I renamed my "contacts.export" file to "cellebrite.contacts.xml", also removed my own name/contact from it, and still get the error when trying to import. It could be the case that I have extra junk for some contacts (have some work and home numbers, also maybe added some values in the "notes" field/tag. What I will try tonight, edit my contacts file so that its just the Name and Mobile tags that are present and retry importing that.
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I was able to successfully upload the contact file from klamation (got 215 of those BOB contacts). Then I renamed my "contacts.export" file to "cellebrite.contacts.xml", also removed my own name/contact from it, and still get the error when trying to import. It could be the case that I have extra junk for some contacts (have some work and home numbers, also maybe added some values in the "notes" field/tag. What I will try tonight, edit my contacts file so that its just the Name and Mobile tags that are present and retry importing that.
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After many trial and error attempts at importing my contact list, it finally worked once I gave a LastName tag and value for the contacts that I previously only had FirstName (some of my contacts, I only had first names since a last name wasn't necessary for me to remember them).
So from my testing, you need both FirstName and LastName tags, and at least one character for a valid value and then the import will work.
So like many of us here experiencing there battery draining overnight,on WiFi,or whatever your specific case.Most of us chalking it up to the newest update.I was draining bad overnight no matter what I tried.I've been using textra for my messaging app and google voice for voicemail.I wanted to try the ATT visual voicemail.Since I haven't used ATTS voicemail since probably my s3,I had a hard time accessing my mailbox.In further searching I found this.There is an ATT app called ATT messages witch I've never installed it has an option to back up SMS,MMS,call logs and so on to ATT'S cloud.I'm not 100 percent sure but on the note4,or possibly from the update,even if you don't have the ATT MESSAGING APP installed and you go to your stock messaging app/settings you will see the option for ATT cloud backup or something along those lines,if you click on it you will see it says your messages are being backed up even if you haven't synced it to your phone there are still backing up,maybe I opted in somehow but I would have never knowingly done that.Now if you go to your ATT account and check your plans and services for your device and you see ATT messages backup and sync in your services its backing all your MMS, SMS,call logs,etc...you can remove the option and it says it will remove anything on the cloud,but if you go back and check after removal it comes back.The only way to stop this is to go to application manager/all and find the messaging backup and sync app and disable it first before removing it from your account.Unless you want ATT to store all your messages on there cloud leave it.Visual voicemail won't work if you have that ATT message app either.just an (FYI).
So what I've done is,
1.go to my files SD card deleted android 2.took out SD card
3.went to settings/backup reset and unchecked back up my data and automatic restore
4.from there do factory reset.
5.after boot up go directly into recovery mode wipe cache, then factory reset again from there.
6.after it boots power down insert external SD card boot back up.
7.go threw set up uncheck all google options for now,can reselect later if needed.
8.once at home screen go to play store/settings select do not automaticaly update.
9.go to application manager find that message back up and sync app and disable it.
10.check your ATT account make sure you don't see it in your device services,if you do remove it.
11.disable all the bloat before updating in play store.
Here's what I've disabled
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In WiFi settings,I only allow WiFi on when sleeping when plugged in,my home WiFi modem is bad I think though,and I've unchecked smart WiFi and almost every option in there.
I stopped using Google voice and using visual voicemail had to get the correct voicemail number from ATT but its working,everything else is still on even facebook, s health with pedometer paused,no cleaning apps just been closing apps threw menu same with ram.so far so good.
Here's my battery over past two days,not a lot of screen time,family time.I'll Do a SOT test soon,
Hope this helps someone.
For me, disabling Smart Network Switch function helped the most. I'm sure most this is what is causing the problem for most people as well.
hyukki said:
For me, disabling Smart Network Switch function helped the most. I'm sure most this is what is causing the problem for most people as well.
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Yes,for people that are having issues with WiFi becoming unstable due to there modem/WiFi router.I had same issue disabling smart network did nothing for me,what I'm getting at is check and see if your stock messaging app is backing up to the cloud,even know it mat not be synced.when I dug deeper I found that messaging backup and sync app was constantly running in the background.This may have been something they implemented on the update I'm not positive,but I don't remember ever seeing that running.On say the s5 that option isn't there UNLESS you download the ATT MESSAGES APP,the note4 has the backup and sync option in the firmware now.All I know is my battery is better then it was ever right now.
If that is not greyed out,your messages are being backed up to ATT cloud,may not be syncing to your phone.the only way to stop this is what I've explained.
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If that is not greyed out,your messages are being backed up to ATT cloud,may not be syncing to your phone.the only way to stop this is what I've explained.
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just wondering. is textra compatible with this att cloud msg backup? I only ask because all the other features are greyed out for you as well, display, quick responses, text message settings, multimedia messages, etc..
they are not greyed out for me, however I am using the stock msg app. also, when I tap on "att messages backup and sync" it prompts me to set it up "turn it on" or "not now" I selected "not now" so assuming that its not enabled, but just wanted to double check as it seems like yours might have been enabled somehow (maybe the sales rep did it when you purchased your phone?)
I logged onto my att account on the web, checked my services, and couldn't find anything related to "message cloud backup" or anything worded similarly. how exactly did you get to where you seen this in your account?
I clicked on "wireless" tab at the top, then "view my plan and features"
then selected my device
then in the next window scrolled to the bottom and clicked the "view all features" link which popped up this window..
is this where you seen this on your account?
Textra is compatible,even using textra if I open my stock messaging all my messages are there,everything is greyed out using textra yes except a few options that one was not greyed out that's how I was able to click on it.your in the correct spot on your ATT account just have to click on manage for the phone in question,at first glance myn read my plan,insurance and something else,once I clicked on manage that's where message backup and sync was,first I removed it,it kept coming back until I disabled it in my app manager.Maybe at some point I had the app on my phone but I don't think so.Go to application manager /running apps see if you see the Messages backup and sync running,if go to all apps see if you see it.Are you using stock messaging app?
I would change my message app to stock default and screen shot it greyed out now,but I don't wanna go threw disabling it again if for some reason it enables.Before I went back to textra I made sure it was greyed out with stock MMS as default also.
Look I just checked and its back,but its disabled on my phone I keep removing it but keeps coming back.
Either way I don't want ATT storing my messages on there cloud,and I would have never knew unless I dug into this.
There's a site you can go to and read your messages,but if your not seeing any traces of this,I suggest not signing into it and checking,it may enable it.
Here's where I ended up,I used to get 6 hours SOT but with about 12 overall hours,I'm at 5h 30m SOT,could stretch to 6h with 6 percent left but this was over 1day and 17hours.
thanks, just wanted to make sure I wasn't syncing with the cloud either, looks like im not..
still having battery issues, trying to figure them out. some reason now my text msg app takes like 30 seconds to start up (when closed, not just minimized) not sure why.. only has 2 text messages in it, did a hard reset, still the same.. guess im going to start unblocking stuff and see if that helps..
I was originally thinking that it might be trying to sync when started, that's what was causing the delay, but doesn't look like that is the case for me.
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thanks, just wanted to make sure I wasn't syncing with the cloud either, looks like im not..
still having battery issues, trying to figure them out. some reason now my text msg app takes like 30 seconds to start up (when closed, not just minimized) not sure why.. only has 2 text messages in it, did a hard reset, still the same.. guess im going to start unblocking stuff and see if that helps..
I was originally thinking that it might be trying to sync when started, that's what was causing the delay, but doesn't look like that is the case for me.
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Did you check in your running apps,myn was never syncing either,it was running and backing up to the cloud,syncing on this app means its syncs from the cloud to your phone,if by chance that app is running that means its backing up to the cloud regardless if you selected sync.I just checked my account again after yesterday when I saw it there and I removed it,now its gone thank god.So i the whole point of the app is,if backup and sync is running and all your messages are being stored on the cloud,plus there on your phone,you delete messages on your phone but there still on the cloud,if you sync it,it will DL all your messages back to your phone,or you could go to the message site and see them,but the only way to delete the permenatly would be from the cloud site,I think.maybe I'm wrong but that's how I understood it.go to settings/application manager/running apps,and see if messages backup and sync is running,and check all apps in there too I'm curious if the app is even on your phone.
see its gone now.
I do not see the feature in my att app or online. It's greyed out in my text msg settings, and if I press the option.. it asks me to set it up or cancel. Same if I click att address book in accounts it prompts me to do the same. Set it up or cancel.
And I don't see it running in processes..
Something else has to be going on.. I am about ready to reflash n1e firmware and block the updater and just call it a day.
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I do not see the feature in my att app or online. It's greyed out in my text msg settings, and if I press the option.. it asks me to set it up or cancel. Same if I click att address book in accounts it prompts me to do the same. Set it up or cancel.
And I don't see it running in processes..
Something else has to be going on.. I am about ready to reflash n1e firmware and block the updater and just call it a day.
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Can you check in the app manager /all it would be underneath the messages app here
And looks like this from my disabled apps,just curious if the app even lives on your phone.
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Can you check in the app manager....
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Sweet.. i see it now in my disabled section..
Thanks
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Sweet.. i see it now in my disabled section..
Thanks
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Ok so you already had it disabled,so it is there.
Here you go,amazing this is by far my best battery cycle.