Enable Wifi-hotspot without mobile data - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

I have an AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II (SGH-I317) which has wifi-hotspot option, but when I try to turn it on for playing multiplayer games with my friends, it asks me to enable mobile data.
So is there any way to turn on the wifi hotspot without the need for enabling mobile data? Any ROM hacks probably?
P.S. The devices is rooted and has custom recovery handy

Wifi hotspot is for allowing users to access the Internet through a single data connection. Once hotspotting is enabled, the host phone can't use its wifi capabilities.

audit13 said:
Wifi hotspot is for allowing users to access the Internet through a single data connection. Once hotspotting is enabled, the host phone can't use its wifi capabilities.
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Yes I know that wifi-hotspot disables wifi and so...
But, my question is to enable wifi-hotspot without an internet connection(w/o mobile data) on SGH-I317. So far I can enable wifi-hotspot only after enabling mobile data.

With this phone, the two go hand in hand.

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[Q] Internet pass through

Does anyone know if it's possible to use this when using your phone as a WIFI hotspot, or does the hotspot only use your data connection? Cheers
I'm not sure what you're asking, but the Wifi hotspot option only allows you to share your phone's 3g connection with wireless enabled devices. If you're on Orange they've probably blocked it by default so you need to configure it.
Instructions here [Post #32]: http://androidforums.com/desire-sup...rnet-tethering-orange-mobile.html#post1734672
wastedtalent said:
I'm not sure what you're asking, but the Wifi hotspot option only allows you to share your phone's 3g connection with wireless enabled devices. If you're on Orange they've probably blocked it by default so you need to configure it.
Instructions here [Post #32]: http://androidforums.com/desire-sup...rnet-tethering-orange-mobile.html#post1734672
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He is asking if he can forward the Internet connection from the PC using a USB cable (Internet Passthrough mode) and further pass it to other devices using the WiFi hotspot feature IN THE SAME TIME
androf said:
He is asking if he can forward the Internet connection from the PC using a USB cable (Internet Passthrough mode) and further pass it to other devices using the WiFi hotspot feature IN THE SAME TIME
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Yeah, that's what I want to do. Picked up an iPad 2 on Friday, but don't have WIFI at work. Was hoping to share my PCs internet connection instead of using my data.
I'm in the same boat. No wifi at work and would like to share my pc's interenet through the phone's as a wifi hotspot. Theoritically this should be possible. Any third party softwares which allow this?
Hmm, cant test it now due to some reasons but it's possible to use your phone as a wifi card.
For example connect your phone to wifi and activate usb tethering. Now your on the wifi nework with your pc.
I think that yours should be possible too
Tapatalked with Tapatalk from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.
I'm trying to do the opposite, not usb tethering, rather internet passthrough. Basically I want to use the phone as a wifi router (but not using mobile network as the source of net).
frasefrase said:
Does anyone know if it's possible to use this when using your phone as a WIFI hotspot, or does the hotspot only use your data connection? Cheers
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Unfortunately , I guess , this couldn't be possible , because when HTC Desire HD device is connected via " Internet pass through " , the internet connection is neither 3G , nor WIFI . I can't be a hundred percent sure that this is right , but as far as you know there are some GAMELOFT games , which require downloaded CACHE/DATA for playing them . This downloading could be possible , when your device has been connected to Internet , no matter 3G/4G or WIFI .
Once I tried via " Internet pass through " to download this DATA/CACHE files ,but there appeared a notification saying Im neither 3G , nor WIFI connected . So I couldn't succeed in downloading the files . ( I've tried many games , yet has never managed to download DATA/CACHE game files via "Internet pass through" )
My opinion is that WIFI-HOTSPOT can be activated only when you are connected via 3G/4G/WIFI network . But anytime you want , you could try if it is possible via "Internet pass through" be established a WIFI-HOTSPOT
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Create a txt file "qaWifiOnlyMode.txt" and inside write FALSE , put in the root of your sd ... and the game will ask your permission to use carrier network , if internet pass through are active will use the USB connection
(sorry bad english, i'm drunk)

Wildfire S and Ipad 1

ok so today I bought an HTC wildfire S with an internet dataplan.
Presently have an IPAD 1 without the 3G option so needed to find a mobile phone that can tether with it. They recommended me this mobile as they said it needs to have the wifi hotspot option.
Can someone link me to some info on what is needed to be installed and setup to make it work with my IPAD.
Thanks to all.
Hi,
Your phone already have all it needs for tethering. Just go to setings>Wireless&networks > portable wi-fi hotspot setings and set all parameters you like (SSID name, security type -wep, wap, wap2 ans set a password). After go back to wireless & networks and activate portable wi-fi hotspot (before that you have to activate Mobile network, otherwise will be a wi-fi network without internet connexion) and voila... you should see the new created wi-fi netword with the SSID you chose on your Ipad wi-fi manager.
Good luck
Thanks....
felt stupid after I switched on for the first time my mobile and found the Wifi hotspot in the menu thought it was an app I had to download....

No WiFi Connectivity After Using Mobile Hotspot

I use my Mobile Hotspot to tether my Nexus 7 tablet in my car. I am running 5.0.1 Lollipop.
As soon as I turn the car off, the Mobile Hotspot turns off and the WiFi is turned on again. The phone will connect to my home wireless hotspot but there is no data tranfer.
Instagram says "Can't refresh feed" and Chrome cannot connect to the web.
In order to fix the problem I usually need to restart the device and then it will connect to WiFi will full connectivity again.
Any ideas?
Is my Mobile Hotspot locking something up in Android, like the MAC Address or IP Address or something until I reboot?
I've come across a quick fix I suppose. If I follow the steps below then I don't need to reboot the device to get the WiFi to work again:
1) Turn off Wifi before enabling Mobile Hotspot
2) Enable Mobile Spot
3) Turn off Mobile Hotspot when finished with it
4) Manually re-enable WiFi once Hotspot is off
Seems the issue stems from keeping the WiFi on when enabling the Mobile Hotspot. The Note 4 will automatically disable WiFi and re-enable WiFi on it's own if you do not manually disable the WiFi beforehand thus leading to the no internet connection issue.
Still curious what the actual issue is though.
UPDATE 10/14/2015: Seems as though the method I described above does not even work as a foolproof method for getting the WiFi to work properly again after hotspotting. Reboot is the only way to get it to work again. It's very temperamental.
I have been experiencing this same issue. I didn't link it to turning the mobile hotspot on and off until you mentioned it. I also have to reboot the phone to make Wi-Fi work again.
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WiFi sharing

Hi folk, is there a way to have WiFi sharing on our beloved device?
Is it a SW limitation, or HW that need device to be rooted or is it just impossible with this HW?
It seems P3* has it!!
Thank you
last_nooby said:
Hi folk, is there a way to have WiFi sharing on our beloved device?
Is it a SW limitation, or HW that need device to be rooted or is it just impossible with this HW?
It seems P3* has it!! Thank you
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Look under Wi-Fi preferences for "Wi-Fi Direct". Is it not there? I don't have my P2 handy or I would check myself...but it is there on the the P3. I've never used it before but I see other peers in my house available to connect.
I don't have WiFi at home (digital divide problem) so I need to use my P2XL as router and device both at same time. Eg. to use my device with Chromecast
last_nooby said:
I don't have WiFi at home (digital divide problem) so I need to use my P2XL as router and device both at same time. Eg. to use my device with Chromecast
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You asked about "Wi-Fi sharing" which is a different technology from using your phone as a hotspot where it uses your phone's cellular data to create a Wi-Fi hotspot your other devices can use. Is this what you are trying to accomplish? If so "tethering" is definitely an option IF your carrier and/or plan allow it. On many carriers it is plan-by-plan. If your plan is pre-pay it may not be available. There are ways to bypass the carrier tether checks but it requires root. Not sure if you can stream to Chromecast via tethering because I don't own one. Maybe someone else who does can confirm.
v12xke said:
You asked about "Wi-Fi sharing" which is a different technology from using your phone as a hotspot where it uses your phone's cellular data to create a Wi-Fi hotspot your other devices can use. Is this what you are trying to accomplish? If so "tethering" is definitely an option IF your carrier and/or plan allow it. On many carriers it is plan-by-plan. If your plan is pre-pay it may not be available. There are ways to bypass the carrier tether checks but it requires root. Not sure if you can stream to Chromecast via tethering because I don't own one. Maybe someone else who does can confirm.
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Specifically Chromecast needs WiFi and because I don't have it so I'm trying to simulate it throw WiFi sharing.
Tethering doesn't work unfortunately. Tried several times.
Because P3 allows WiFi sharing I thought it was possible in P2 too (but honestly no idea if it's HW or SW).
Ps: my phone is rooted.
last_nooby said:
Specifically Chromecast needs WiFi and because I don't have it so I'm trying to simulate it throw WiFi sharing.
Tethering doesn't work unfortunately. Tried several times.
Because P3 allows WiFi sharing I thought it was possible in P2 too (but honestly no idea if it's HW or SW).
Ps: my phone is rooted.
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WiFi-Hotspot allows all your other devices to connect to the Internet by sharing your phone's mobile data; while WiFi-Sharing achieves that by sharing your phone's WiFi connection. Since you do not have Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi sharing is not an option for you, regardless of which Pixel you have. There are many tethering guides on how to modify your build.prop to bypass your carrier's tether checks. Which carrier are you on, and is it a pre-paid or post-paid plan? As your phone is rooted, you may also want to search XDA for enabling tethering depending on your specific carrier/plan. Best of luck! :good:
last_nooby said:
I don't have WiFi at home (digital divide problem) so I need to use my P2XL as router and device both at same time. Eg. to use my device with Chromecast
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I do this exact same thing you are describing via tethering. I make my Pixel 2XL a hotspot, then connect chromecast to it. Then I can stream things from the same Pixel 2XL to the chromecast. The key is getting tethering to work.
beezar said:
I do this exact same thing you are describing via tethering. I make my Pixel 2XL a hotspot, then connect chromecast to it. Then I can stream things from the same Pixel 2XL to the chromecast. The key is getting tethering to work.
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Sorry beezar but I did it tons of times and never worked.
Do you set something special?
last_nooby said:
Sorry beezar but I did it tons of times and never worked.
Do you set something special?
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"There are many tethering guides on how to modify your build.prop to bypass your carrier's tether checks. Which carrier are you on, and is it a pre-paid or post-paid plan? As your phone is rooted, you may also want to search XDA for enabling tethering depending on your specific carrier/plan."
v12xke said:
"There are many tethering guides on how to modify your build.prop to bypass your carrier's tether checks. Which carrier are you on, and is it a pre-paid or post-paid plan? As your phone is rooted, you may also want to search XDA for enabling tethering depending on your specific carrier/plan."
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Vodafone pre-paid v12xke
I'll looking for it, thank you. Anyway I don't have problem about Vodafone checks, instead I can't connect to my Chromecast ultra without WiFi. That's it
last_nooby said:
Vodafone pre-paid v12xke
I'll looking for it, thank you. Anyway I don't have problem about Vodafone checks, instead I can't connect to my Chromecast ultra without WiFi. That's it
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If you cannot enable and setup a Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone you DO have Vodafone tethering checks. It is Vodafone blocking you from using the tether function! The tethering function on your phone will use the phone's Wi-Fi radio to create a Wi-Fi hotspot and then you will have Wi-Fi to share with your other devices. You can do simple edit of your build.prop to bypass the restriction. If you are rooted, you likely have Magisk installed and there should still be a working tethering module that will do the job for you.
v12xke said:
If you cannot enable and setup a Wi-Fi hotspot on your phone you DO have Vodafone tethering checks. It is Vodafone blocking you from using the tether function! The tethering function on your phone will use the phone's Wi-Fi radio to create a Wi-Fi hotspot and then you will have Wi-Fi to share with your other devices. You can do simple edit of your build.prop to bypass the restriction. If you are rooted, you likely have Magisk installed and there should still be a working tethering module that will do the job for you.
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Ok suppose I've created WiFi hotspot and I'm sharing my WiFi with Chromecast, so how can also connect my phone to Chromecast if my phone is busy simulating WiFi router with Chromecast?
Here the graphics:
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Chromecast --> router <-- phone
So Chromecast and my phone can communicate throw the same router, right?
Ok now I simulate router using tethering on my phone:
Chromecast --> phone
At this point my phone is busy being router for Chromecast!! I should use another WiFi in same my phone to connect it to Chromecast! Make sense?
last_nooby said:
Ok suppose I've created WiFi hotspot and I'm sharing my WiFi with Chromecast, so how can also connect my phone to Chromecast if my phone is busy simulating WiFi router with Chromecast?
Here the graphics:
1.
Chromecast --> router <-- phone
So Chromecast and my phone can communicate throw the same router, right?
Ok now I simulate router using tethering on my phone:
Chromecast --> phone
At this point my phone is busy being router for Chromecast!! I should use another WiFi in same my phone to connect it to Chromecast! Make sense?
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Thanks for the "graphics". Suppose you did not read post #7 in your own thread, and suppose you haven't successfully created a Wi-Fi Hotspot yet? Best of luck. Out.
last_nooby said:
Ok suppose I've created WiFi hotspot and I'm sharing my WiFi with Chromecast, so how can also connect my phone to Chromecast if my phone is busy simulating WiFi router with Chromecast?
Here the graphics:
1.
Chromecast --> router <-- phone
So Chromecast and my phone can communicate throw the same router, right?
Ok now I simulate router using tethering on my phone:
Chromecast --> phone
At this point my phone is busy being router for Chromecast!! I should use another WiFi in same my phone to connect it to Chromecast! Make sense?
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I think one thing you are misunderstanding is that if you use your phone as a "hotspot" -- essentially you are making your phone a modem & router -- then wifi is actually forcefully turned off; therefore using any data connection other than the device's own (connection) is impossible [like another router/modem or data line]. Anyone who has successfully ran the device as a hotspot can attest to this...
I mean, it kinda makes sense... If the device has to receive a wifi signal, process the data throughout the internet, and send the corresponding data through the same wifi signal, then it'd be too busy & impossible for it to also be connecting the same wifi signal to send and receive to another source. As technology is now, it'd be crazy for a smartphone to have and employ more than 1 wifi radio or multiple wifi radios...There's really simply no need for it (right now at least...).
Hope this clears a little up....
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I think one thing you are misunderstanding is that if you use your phone as a "hotspot" -- essentially you are making your phone a modem & router -- then wifi is actually forcefully turned off; therefore using any data connection other than the device's own (connection) is impossible [like another router/modem or data line]. Anyone who has successfully ran the device as a hotspot can attest to this...
I mean, it kinda makes sense... If the device has to receive a wifi signal, process the data throughout the internet, and send the corresponding data through the same wifi signal, then it'd be too busy & impossible for it to also be connecting the same wifi signal to send and receive to another source. As technology is now, it'd be crazy for a smartphone to have and employ more than 1 wifi radio or multiple wifi radios...There's really simply no need for it (right now at least...).
Hope this clears a little up....
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Thank you very much simplepinoi177!! Now I understand..?
So no chance to use Chromecast without WiFi.
I'll put on sell.
Thank you and Merry Christmas!!

Problems to create 5ghz hotspot

Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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josehdx said:
Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
Patrick Morgan said:
some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
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Hey Patrick
Thanks again for your answer
I read about that limitation in a oneplus forum but I don't really know how to check that.
Actually, i can add something to my issue
While i am reporting the hotspot issue, i must said i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont want to confuse you
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
So, going back to the original issue, i am not sure if it is a country restriction. I usually live.in Hungary but i am now in poland and i received the device on this last country.
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
josehdx said:
Hey Patrick
i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
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sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
Patrick Morgan said:
sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
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Well. I know there was going to be some confusion.
The hotspot does not work with 5ghz even without vpn.
When i use my home wifi, I connect from my phone (no mobile data) to my vpn provider and then with another app, "vpn hotspot" (root required) i can share the vpn traffic to external devices via hotspot. When I do these steps sometimes 5ghz works, and i say sometimes cause I left the "vpn hotspot" wifi setting as default. I might change some network options there but, those options are not available for hotspot within "vpn hotspot" this is why i am blaming the ROM, But maybe you are right and there is some interference between apps. I will try to flush the settings one more time
I have flushed the rules of the vpn hotspot app and tried again. Working fine with and without vpn!
Thanks
I see.
You are trying to filter your wifi connection at home through your phones wifi and share thst connection to other wifi devices.
I dont believe it will work correctly. you're essentially trying to create a wifi repeater.
You're making your wifi chip do 2 things, and its unable to run two streams at the same time.
It state in the Hotspot settings
" Use hotspot to provide internet to other devices through your mobile data"
If you want to connect to your home wifi with your phone, and share thst connection with another device you must use USB tethering.
You risk causing damage to your wifi chip trying to force two connections on it.
using repeater apps, does cause the signal strength to degrade, (bacause you're using the same antenna to receive your home wifi and to create its own wifi. limiting the bandwith and can cause connection issues over time.
the wifi chips in android phone can create a repeating wifi signal, but they're not made to do it. normally as stock android runs when you enable wifi hotspot, it stops the current wifi connecting to create a new wifi access point. using apps to get around that may cause issues and even damage as i stated above. if your wifi chip breaks due to improper use, it will need a warranty return.

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