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I recently got the HD. Must say, it is a sexy beast. One factor that led me to choose this over the iPhone was -
* A greater selection of apps and the ability to install whatever you wished.
I am a keen game player and currently, with the HTC HD I have the following problems.
1. Lack of D-Pad/hardware buttons means that there many existing titles are unsuitable for play
2. The screen ratio means that more titles dont play (in full resolution).
3. There just arent any good motion controlled games (whereas, there IS on the iPhone)
4. Game titles that do work properly on the HD (and even those that dont) are boring/not very fluid/not exciting/2D - certainly not the case for the iPhone.
5. Game development for the iPhone seems an active process - every week, one hears of a new innovative game release for the iPhone, which one never hears for the HD or other PPC.
6. I tried using emulators - including the PSX one, just too slow, doesnt do much for me.
What do people have to say about the list above? Specifically:
1. Is there any way of playing iPhone games on the HTC HD
2. Why is no one making use of the HTC HDs gaming potential/motion sensor?
From a rather cheated purchacher.
OMG i cant hear it anymore. every second post is whining about the so cool iphone and the crappy touch hd.
windows mobile has the problem that it has good applications, but boring games. many developers seem still to think that its only a phone for business usage.
the touch hd is not a dedicated gaming device, if you want one, you have to buy a psp or iphone. thats it.
just listen carefully , its not the problem of the device(its windows mobile so it has the ability to accept great games and its also proved by the Xtrakt game!) , its the problem of the developers there are no / or a little developers that can make games like Xtrakt. (oh btw Xtrakt wasnt even developed by a hd user or for the hd it was developed for the Xperia )
sorry, if im wrong just delete this reply or ignore it !
sorry for my bad English
nirpaudyal said:
I recently got the HD. Must say, it is a sexy beast. One factor that led me to choose this over the iPhone was -
* A greater selection of apps and the ability to install whatever you wished.
I am a keen game player and currently, with the HTC HD I have the following problems.
1. Lack of D-Pad/hardware buttons means that there many existing titles are unsuitable for play
2. The screen ratio means that more titles dont play (in full resolution).
3. There just arent any good motion controlled games (whereas, there IS on the iPhone)
4. Game titles that do work properly on the HD (and even those that dont) are boring/not very fluid/not exciting/2D - certainly not the case for the iPhone.
5. Game development for the iPhone seems an active process - every week, one hears of a new innovative game release for the iPhone, which one never hears for the HD or other PPC.
6. I tried using emulators - including the PSX one, just too slow, doesnt do much for me.
What do people have to say about the list above? Specifically:
1. Is there any way of playing iPhone games on the HTC HD
2. Why is no one making use of the HTC HDs gaming potential/motion sensor?
From a rather cheated purchacher.
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The problem is that every company that makes phones can use any chipset they want and there is no SDK for developers to use that is standardized for all Windows phones. hopefully with the next line of HTC phones there will be enough in that line to encourage developers to figure it out. Anyway, try Need For Speed as well and you can enable the gsen to work for it until the new version (that EA is including the gsen in) is released: http://www.fuzemobility.com/need-for-speed-gsen-enabled-now/
if u ask me... 800x480 is new one to developers(popular device) so they need time to adapt their new games so u will play to your device...till now u got 640x480 games working on your blackstone(adapted somehow ) and wait for new 1 to come...
cheer
ps. u cant compare iphone with blackstone cos, trust me, iphone its not worth it
my missus has an iphone and they are two completly different phones its like comparing a toaster with a microwave.
iphone has great games and gui interface and is damn easy to use but it lacks applications and modifications
get your missus to get an iphone that way u can play the games on hers while still modifying your hd!
nirpaudyal said:
I recently got the HD. Must say, it is a sexy beast. One factor that led me to choose this over the iPhone was -
* A greater selection of apps and the ability to install whatever you wished.
I am a keen game player and currently, with the HTC HD I have the following problems.
1. Lack of D-Pad/hardware buttons means that there many existing titles are unsuitable for play
2. The screen ratio means that more titles dont play (in full resolution).
3. There just arent any good motion controlled games (whereas, there IS on the iPhone)
4. Game titles that do work properly on the HD (and even those that dont) are boring/not very fluid/not exciting/2D - certainly not the case for the iPhone.
5. Game development for the iPhone seems an active process - every week, one hears of a new innovative game release for the iPhone, which one never hears for the HD or other PPC.
6. I tried using emulators - including the PSX one, just too slow, doesnt do much for me.
What do people have to say about the list above? Specifically:
1. Is there any way of playing iPhone games on the HTC HD
2. Why is no one making use of the HTC HDs gaming potential/motion sensor?
From a rather cheated purchacher.
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I don't know why you feel "cheated" because really, you should have known that coming in.
Also, WVGA screens are not all that popular at the moment - you've bought a leading edge device and support is still coming - wait for the TD2 and TP2, and then you should see a lot more apps coming.
Also, iPhone has the App Store - developers have incentive to make games for /one/ platform (2 if you count iPod Touch)...WM developers have to cater for so many devices that it's almost ridiculous - not to mention that people will just pirate the software anyway.
Wait until the Microsoft MarketPlace goes online for a bit, and you should see a lot more games and apps coming your way.
But honestly? If you got want a phone to play games, then get an iPhone. If you want a phone to play music, get a Nokia 5800 or an iPhone..if you want a phone that you can watching HQ vids on, flash the brains out of, with tons of add-ons, without fear of fiddling around and tweaking that phone until it's uniquely yours, then get a Touch HD. WinMo is not the most user-friendly OS out there...but that's why we have XDA and all those awesome cooks/devs out there!
WinterKnights said:
my missus has an iphone and they are two completly different phones its like comparing a toaster with a microwave.
iphone has great games and gui interface and is damn easy to use but it lacks applications and modifications
get your missus to get an iphone that way u can play the games on hers while still modifying your hd!
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I need a missus first! my desire to be playing games on my Sexy HD seems more costly than the i had imagined
skulk3r said:
Wait until the Microsoft MarketPlace goes online for a bit, and you should see a lot more games and apps coming your way.
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I could be very wrong but microsoft market place has been online for years. i certainly recall submitting my own applications around 4 years ago.
Just to summarize, I now understand that there is lack of good games for the HD for the following reasons:
1. Software/hardware of every single windows mobile is different therefor, developers do not know what to target. iPhone is what it is.
2. People who buy WM are not interested in flashy games
3. The hardware of HD is superior to iPhone for playing games. But despite this, people are not interested in development because of these reasons.
4. Its easy to download cracked games and stuff for WM devices so developers are losing out.
5. there are ok games out there but most of them have one or more limitations (e.g. sensor support, wrong screen resolution)
6. If you want the fully customizable phone and the joys of playing games on an iPhone, you first need a woman.
7. Microsoft will never do anything to get these problems sorted.
8. Looks like we WM users will never have proper games for our devices.
Depressing thought really.
you're right, it is depressing...but with the new WVGA devices coming out soon, with Windows Mobile 6.5 on the way, we should see new interest in WM devices and hopefully games for them.
and you may be right about the marketplace, but I am sure that Microsoft are planning on releasing the Microsoft Marketplace (or re-releasing it) with WM6.5 launch, it will function in much the same way as the Android version and the Palm version - to compete with the charm of the AppStore
nirpaudyal said:
just to summarize, i now understand that there is lack of good games for the hd for the following reasons:
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6. If you want the fully customizable phone and the joys of playing games on an iphone, you first need a woman.
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skulk3r said:
I don't know why you feel "cheated" because really, you should have known that coming in.
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But honestly? If you got want a phone to play games, then get an iPhone. If you want a phone to play music, get a Nokia 5800 or an iPhone..if you want a phone that you can watching HQ vids on, flash the brains out of, with tons of add-ons, without fear of fiddling around and tweaking that phone until it's uniquely yours, then get a Touch HD. WinMo is not the most user-friendly OS out there...but that's why we have XDA and all those awesome cooks/devs out there!
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+1 the naked truth!
Windows Mobile
HD is a very good mobile hardware, the problem is the software used , Windows Mobile , which is very limited for the applications versus the competitor system Mac iPhone. I have and I am using both of them for my private business. With the firmware version 3, iPhone is going to be a superior and first in class of technology for the mobile market. No doubt!
Actually you can find a lot of applications and games working very well on iPhone (see appulo.us), meanwhile on HD the selection is very, very limited. In the next future, also the viruses will start to growth around in windows mobile system, and again it will be a problem similar to XP system forced to use antivirus software, etc.
This is the truth, all the rest it’s just a sterile discussion...nothing else.
The way I see it, Blackstone is one of the first major HTC sellers, that makes use of a 480x800 screen res....The newest and coming up models, are to have the exact same screen res.and in addition, the same processor and RAM capacity, like Diamond 2, Pro 2 etc.
So, hopefully, more users will own the same "platform" (mobile phone's specifications)- meaning there will be more room for potentional customers of the developers' programs.
Keep in mind, that the more popular a platform is, the more the developers want to work with it...And iPhone, at least as a standalone device, is by far more popular than any Htc device...
However, consider 4-5 or more Htc models, with the same specs as the HD...Now that should make a difference....shouldn't it?
Lets break this down nice a simple:
IPhone - One of apples "up there own arse" products who stand there saying "Hay we have loads of support from others an were know for our best selling IPod so.....lets jump on the phone market" make it look all shiny an add loads of apps an Itunes Support!
HTC Touch HD - I know let do a phone that use windows, can have the OS upgraded with future possibilites for apps, fully PC compable for access (As not everyone can aford A £800 Mac), A large nice screen, word that is back compatable with older docs and more.
Personaly Apple piss me off as I'm a music producer an there so up them selfs with "Logic Pro - Mac Only".....Oh wait Cubase is multi-format.
You see my point here?! Apple have for me have just bandwagon jumped "cashing in" so to speak on the phone market an keeping all the arps exclusive for the I-Phone much like Logic only for there Macs - yeah good phone but for how long?
Rant Over!
armatan said:
HD is a very good mobile hardware, the problem is the software used , Windows Mobile , which is very limited for the applications versus the competitor system Mac iPhone. I have and I am using both of them for my private business. With the firmware version 3, iPhone is going to be a superior and first in class of technology for the mobile market. No doubt!
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Will the new firmware finally be able to really multi-task? If not, then it still is by far inferior to WM...
armatan said:
Actually you can find a lot of applications and games working very well on iPhone (see appulo.us), meanwhile on HD the selection is very, very limited. In the next future, also the viruses will start to growth around in windows mobile system, and again it will be a problem similar to XP system forced to use antivirus software, etc.
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Most really interesting apps are available in some form for WM... The only category not satisfying is in fact games...
armatan said:
This is the truth, all the rest it’s just a sterile discussion...nothing else.
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I'm quite sure alot of people would disagree... Myself including!
^ Pretty sure I read that the new iphone/software will allow multi-tasking.
RE: "Most really interesting apps are available in some form for WM... The only category not satisfying is in fact games..."
While that is true, the keywords there are "most" and "in some form".
I dont like apple products, and doubt I would ever buy one. But with the iphone they have redefined what people want and are coming to expect from high end handsets.
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RE: "Most really interesting apps are available in some form for WM... The only category not satisfying is in fact games..."
While that is true, the keywords there are "most" and "in some form".
I dont like apple products, and doubt I would ever buy one. But with the iphone they have redefined what people want and are coming to expect from high end handsets.
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That is very true... but I think it is only a matter of time until interesting concepts are "ported" to WM... Just look at TouchFlo: This effort of making WM finger-friendly is a direct result of the iphone - and my HD is becoming more finger-friendly with every new ROM released here!
Lets be fair. Despite my love for my HTC HD, I have come to accept that those with iPhones enjoy something greater than what we can ever hope to... entertainment to the max when it comes to games... developers are gagging for it.
also, let us not say that iPhone is for bums and WM devices are for the social elite... the reality is that most users are looking for a, when X equals the benefits of a PDA phone, 'mobile phone with X' (X being the extra), not 'X with a mobile phone' (mobile phone being the extra). I just wish in the case of the latter, X could also include games.
With my HD, I have already enjoyed the GPS with TomTom, WiFi and all the hours of fun it brings, software programming and trying out some random apps (many of which dont work, however had elated prior to actually running them). I dont think an iPhone, despite it obvious offer of sensually pleasing games, could have left me satisfied so, especially when I dont have a missus.
I have to be honest, things are looking up, the need for speed game appears to be an exciting development.
Just trying to bring some positivity to the forums.
I bought WP7 because it's got the best music player on the market, a smooth UI, xbox live integration, great games with the promise of even better which is completely believable after seeing such titles as ilomilo, xbox live integration, it's range of hardware selection which though it can't touch android beats out iphones selection, expandable memory, and because overall it's just got the most beautiful UI. It never feels like they took the best from another OS and just improved it.
I had a Zune HD and loved it so much that when i saw WP7 had taken the metro ui, Zune media and xbox live and put it on a phone that was it for me.
Zune is so far ahead of itunes it makes them look out of date (bar the remote control features this needs to be implemented asap)
Quality for me is so much more important than quantity. Other phones have a lot of cool stuff but none look and feel like WP7 or the quality of its media.
Then the cherry comes xbox live this is it for me, I am a huge gamer and xbox live is where it is at, period. All in all this is the greatest user phone ever it may lack high end features but it more than makes up for it by doing what it does better smoother and sexier then any other device you can buy today.
Loved the look of the UI, and Xbox live intergration. I bought a HD7 for the big screen, I was bored of my iPhone too
REason
I have tried all other OS and I am somewhat I would say loyal to Windows mobile. Honestly I sortof got tired of having to update my device bi-weekly or resetting device to do certain things, and for all the features it had build in I had purchased from someone for wm6.5. Like checking my friends online status on xbox live, I loved the zune interface I had a regular not an HD but my kid brother had one and loved it. I am optimistic they will enable more functions built and I am patiently waiting on the other things from 6.5 to be ported and more. And I was somewhat jealous of every other phones bigger screen (than my tp2)
Got pissed with Android, waiting for updates and the UI. I hated WP7 first, because I was in love with Android guy, but after some time I saw what **** it is and just started to get to know with WP7. And then I realised that this OS will be perfect for my needs and after some time, I sold my Desire Z, it had defect with keyboard (before I had desire, which had defects too) and bought Omnia7. It's perfect, I'm perfectionist and this phone is just awesome, no single flaw so far...
Also came from iOS (iPhone 3G, 3GS) Android (nexus one). Reasons why i switched to WP7:
1. Xbox live and also their promise of great games, as i also am a gamer
2. Metro UI, slick and smooth. It just works
3. Xbox live
4. Zune
5. Xbox live
It does what I need it to do and does it efficiently.
1) I liked how the UI looked
2) I want something fast
3) I wanted something that was standardized (with minimum system specs) so I could expect apps to work with it for a while
4) I wanted something different
5) I didn't want to have to spend time tweaking my phone in order to get it to work well.
6) XBOX Live
7) Fast camera
1. Its smooth and fast
2. Its different
3. Its v1.0 of an OS, something I hadn't had before
4. Got tired of tweaking the hell out of winmo
5. Tried android on the hd2 and it reminded me of IOS, just laggier, with no promise of device updates.
6. All the multimedia options: netflix, slingbox, bitbop, zune for music, zune for video, zune handles all my podcasts
7. It doesn't freeze up for me, ever! (OK once since US launch, but even then it soft reset itself)
8. Developers: the apps were are getting seem to be at least as good as IOS and look better and smoother than the same apps on android (if they even have them)
9. Games: once again, on par with IOS games, most android phones can't handle top games. Definitely better than Winmo games of the same name.
10. Notice how I didn't say enterprise or office integration, etc. My phone is a toy to keep me occupied at work, when out with the family and there is down time, at the gym on the treadmill, etc.
11. It's nice to show off a new feature/app of the phone to someone and not have the phone freeze on you!!!
Getting Older and Wiser ?
I came from a WM 6.5 environment where I tweaked, flashed new ROMs and Radios, and updated applications for several hours a week. What I wanted was:
. No more stylus, fingers only (I won't get into a fight over WM 6.5, no matter what I did, it was NEVER totally finger friendly).
. Larger screen (at least 4.0", my eyes aren't getting any better).
. Faster processor, more memory
. Fluid and fast OS/UI
. Something that just works and does not REQUIRE tweaking and endless flashing
. Apps that are updated automatically (some 6.5 ROMs and apps support this, but not integrated seamlessly)
. Something that let's ME use IT and doesn't use ME.
I am finished with tweaking and flashing. I did it in the beginning because I thought I had to in order to get a phone the way I liked it. After WP7, I understand there is no real need, I just got so used to it. I thought it was "normal". I now realize how much time I wasted and how the OS was driving me to waste time rather than save time.
JamesAllen said:
I came from a WM 6.5 environment where I tweaked, flashed new ROMs and Radios, and updated applications for several hours a week. What I wanted was:
. No more stylus, fingers only (I won't get into a fight over WM 6.5, no matter what I did, it was NEVER totally finger friendly).
. Larger screen (at least 4.0", my eyes aren't getting any better).
. Faster processor, more memory
. Fluid and fast OS/UI
. Something that just works and does not REQUIRE tweaking and endless flashing
. Apps that are updated automatically (some 6.5 ROMs and apps support this, but not integrated seamlessly)
. Something that let's ME use IT and doesn't use ME.
I am finished with tweaking and flashing. I did it in the beginning because I thought I had to in order to get a phone the way I liked it. After WP7, I understand there is no real need, I just got so used to it. I thought it was "normal". I now realize how much time I wasted and how the OS was driving me to waste time rather than save time.
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ah yes, the number 1 reason I got wp7, to actually use the phone, instead of always tweaking/fixing it!
1/. I had a Zune HD which I enjoy immensely, WP7 is Zune HD+++
2/. I play my XBL games more than my actual XBOX games, +1 WP7 for fun games
3/. I hated tweaking my Touch Cruise and Symbian Phones
4/. I like smooth scrolling.
5/. I really didn't like the icon grid, which is why I sold my Ipod Touch and got a Zune HD in the first place.
6/. The animation speed of Bing Maps was ridiculous on the phone I played with at the T-Mo store.
7/. Not many people have it, not because it's a **** product, but because they just don't know what they're missing. I like quiet brilliance and WP7 is just that.
Quiet brilliance. I just hope for MS and our sakes that that turns into a smash hit for them somewhere down the line.
1. I wanted a different OS. Most of the other OS' seem a bit boring to me.
2. I like being an early adopter. I was with iOS (sort of) and having something that no one else has is pretty nice.
3. The apps are pretty good thus far. I can see myself getting more apps compared to Android.
4. I trust Microsoft more than Google. Mostly because my current laptop (running Windows 7) has not failed me and Google is, well, Google.
I was planning to get a Captivate but I realized that I would waste hours of my time hacking and flashing it and I didn't want to do that anymore. I wanted a phone that had great features and was just a great experience out of the box. The Focus did that for me.
1. Fluid and Intuituve UI
2. Zune
3. All the live stuff
4. Zune
5. UI
z33dev33l said:
Just trying to bring some positivity to the forums.
I bought WP7 because it's got the best music player on the market, a smooth UI, xbox live integration, great games with the promise of even better which is completely believable after seeing such titles as ilomilo, xbox live integration, it's range of hardware selection which though it can't touch android beats out iphones selection, expandable memory, and because overall it's just got the most beautiful UI. It never feels like they took the best from another OS and just improved it.
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you know, i really like it when folks are positive in starting a thread. even mentioning the competition, in a positive way. kudos to you for not stooping.
also, i could have almost bought an ATT product today, except there are so few choices besides the iphone over there. tmo is having terrible connectivity problems in my area, and if there were a non-contract alternative, i -may- just give it a shot (wp7).
again, thanks for the fresh air.
Coming from Winmo6.5 (HTC Touch HD)
1) Wanted something different/New compared to what's out there already. I believe this is the only smartphone OS that has actually been designed in an artistic/consistent kind of way. Other OS' resemble desktops too much and are either too messy/cheap looking and inconsistent (Android) or just look plain and static looking (iOS app-launcher UI). Though, the home and app screen on WP could be better if the background was customisable, as well as offer more themes.
2) Liked the closed ecosystem of iOS (where all apps just work, and no more tweaking required to get the phone to perform smoothly) but wanted hardware choice. Plus I've got the iPad already, and didn't want to buy what is basically the same device.
3) Wanted to adopt a new OS that could become a major player in the smartphone industry.
1. WM 6.5 was not supported anymore
2. UI made the way I like it - look, concept, homescreen, and unified across all of apps - something I hated on other platforms because of design fragmentation
3. Stable and fast
4. Intergrated with Hotmail
5. All the Office (email, docs, OneNote) however this needs to be improved
6. Hope for a great support by MS giant and their promised commitment
7. Integrated Maps, Music, Xbox, Marketplace
I just pointed things which I thought are better than on other OSes.
P.S. I also dream of some OFFLINE apps especially dictionaries.
1. Somehing new.
2. Wife has Android, mates have BB's and iPhones... wanted something different to tell them how much their phones suck compared to mine.
3. Cloud Sync
4. Office & Exchange
5. Beautifull UI design
was due for an upgrade and able to grab a samsung focus for $30 from wally world. i though, why not? i decided it was time to let my N1 go as well as many other google products/services i had been using because i don't like googles stance on net neutrality and them crawling in bed with the government.
surprisingly, i've really enjoyed my focus. the battery life is outstanding, the camera is quite good, the screen looks great, great games, the music player rocks and i love wireless syncing, it's very fast and smooth. i'm looking forward for the bugs to get ironed out, some very necessary features added and the app store to grow. one of the BEST features is that you can simply uninstall all the bloatware crap att or any other carrier puts on there.
i hope the gates clan keeps this os fresh and up to date with some thoughtful innovations.
Hi everyone !
Expansys sells SIM Free Xperia Play for 229 € and I ordered one rather quickly, stock is expected for next week but I have some questions...
I read some reviews of the phone all over the internet and even topics here on XDA, but I'd like to get recent opinions of persons having the XP for quite a long time, and with the last updates, I didn't see any new reviews of the phone.
1. Gaming: I'm a old school gamer and emulation is my first motive for buying this phone. Are emulators (Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, SNES, PSX, N64) working flawlessly with XP gamepad ?
2. Web browsing: My primary concern is the scrolling/zoom smoothness (especially with default browser, the Nexus S I have at the moment is a shame for that, and I don't like much Opera Mobile as I always find it longer to load pages...). The second is the ability to see any flash content, mostly streaming videos (not HD content of course !). How is the XP performing ?
3. System "snappiness", boot, and battery life: I have read that they were annoying quirks and lags while booting, navigating through the phone and starting apps, is that still true ? And what can I expect from battery life with normal/heavy usage (Though I never spend more than 10 hours without going back near a plug) ?
4. Touchscreen responsiveness: How is it performing ? I have read it was jerky. Was it just bad luck of the guy reporting it ?
5. Network, Calling, Messaging... 2G/3G/WiFi: Are we all good here ? It's still a phone so it's important anyway
Thanks a lot for reading, and sorry for the bad english ! Any answer is welcome !
Mekano said:
Hi everyone !
Expansys sells SIM Free Xperia Play for 229 € and I ordered one rather quickly, stock is expected for next week but I have some questions...
I read some reviews of the phone all over the internet and even topics here on XDA, but I'd like to get recent opinions of persons having the XP for quite a long time, and with the last updates, I didn't see any new reviews of the phone.
1. Gaming: I'm a old school gamer and emulation is my first motive for buying this phone. Are emulators (Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, SNES, PSX, N64) working flawlessly with XP gamepad ?
2. Web browsing: My primary concern is the scrolling/zoom smoothness (especially with default browser, the Nexus S I have at the moment is a shame for that, and I don't like much Opera Mobile as I always find it longer to load pages...). The second is the ability to see any flash content, mostly streaming videos (not HD content of course !). How is the XP performing ?
3. System "snappiness", boot, and battery life: I have read that they were annoying quirks and lags while booting, navigating through the phone and starting apps, is that still true ? And what can I expect from battery life with normal/heavy usage (Though I never spend more than 10 hours without going back near a plug) ?
4. Touchscreen responsiveness: How is it performing ? I have read it was jerky. Was it just bad luck of the guy reporting it ?
5. Network, Calling, Messaging... 2G/3G/WiFi: Are we all good here ? It's still a phone so it's important anyway
Thanks a lot for reading, and sorry for the bad english ! Any answer is welcome !
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The boot time on Stock Rom is the only thing you should worry about. Depending on your amount of bloatware, boot can take 3-5 minutes, but is less than 1 minute on CM7
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Mekano said:
Hi everyone !
Expansys sells SIM Free Xperia Play for 229 € and I ordered one rather quickly, stock is expected for next week but I have some questions...
I read some reviews of the phone all over the internet and even topics here on XDA, but I'd like to get recent opinions of persons having the XP for quite a long time, and with the last updates, I didn't see any new reviews of the phone.
1. Gaming: I'm a old school gamer and emulation is my first motive for buying this phone. Are emulators (Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, SNES, PSX, N64) working flawlessly with XP gamepad ?
2. Web browsing: My primary concern is the scrolling/zoom smoothness (especially with default browser, the Nexus S I have at the moment is a shame for that, and I don't like much Opera Mobile as I always find it longer to load pages...). The second is the ability to see any flash content, mostly streaming videos (not HD content of course !). How is the XP performing ?
3. System "snappiness", boot, and battery life: I have read that they were annoying quirks and lags while booting, navigating through the phone and starting apps, is that still true ? And what can I expect from battery life with normal/heavy usage (Though I never spend more than 10 hours without going back near a plug) ?
4. Touchscreen responsiveness: How is it performing ? I have read it was jerky. Was it just bad luck of the guy reporting it ?
5. Network, Calling, Messaging... 2G/3G/WiFi: Are we all good here ? It's still a phone so it's important anyway
Thanks a lot for reading, and sorry for the bad english ! Any answer is welcome !
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With the 2.3.3 uptade, boots are faster than previous rom.
It's the best phone to play.
I'm an alod school gamer too (I had to use my previous HD2 with a wii wireless classic controller), I use daily a lot of emulators wich are gamepad compatible (nesoid, snesoid, gearoid, genoid, fpse, n64oid, ataroid) and it's really nice !
i also use PSXPERIA with psx games and it works very well!
There's no problem with other functionality such as phone, wi-fi, .... They all do their jobs as they have to.
Surfing is quite fast and nice, flash support is OK and quite smooth.
Don't have any problem with network detection (Orange France). 3G is all the time connected and quite well detected when available (think won't be so easy for you because Bouygues network is not the best).
"Tu peux savourer le coeur léger, c'est un excellent choix, je ne regrette pas le mien un seul instant !"
Mekano said:
Hi everyone !
Expansys sells SIM Free Xperia Play for 229 € and I ordered one rather quickly, stock is expected for next week but I have some questions...
I read some reviews of the phone all over the internet and even topics here on XDA, but I'd like to get recent opinions of persons having the XP for quite a long time, and with the last updates, I didn't see any new reviews of the phone.
1. Gaming: I'm a old school gamer and emulation is my first motive for buying this phone. Are emulators (Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, SNES, PSX, N64) working flawlessly with XP gamepad ?
2. Web browsing: My primary concern is the scrolling/zoom smoothness (especially with default browser, the Nexus S I have at the moment is a shame for that, and I don't like much Opera Mobile as I always find it longer to load pages...). The second is the ability to see any flash content, mostly streaming videos (not HD content of course !). How is the XP performing ?
3. System "snappiness", boot, and battery life: I have read that they were annoying quirks and lags while booting, navigating through the phone and starting apps, is that still true ? And what can I expect from battery life with normal/heavy usage (Though I never spend more than 10 hours without going back near a plug) ?
4. Touchscreen responsiveness: How is it performing ? I have read it was jerky. Was it just bad luck of the guy reporting it ?
5. Network, Calling, Messaging... 2G/3G/WiFi: Are we all good here ? It's still a phone so it's important anyway
Thanks a lot for reading, and sorry for the bad english ! Any answer is welcome !
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The touch screen is slightly unresponsive when you leave the stock screen protector on it. but it isn't bad. in fact, i didn't remove it.
Sounds like this is the phone for you
1. No other phone can even come close to this when it comes to emulating. All the emulators support key mapping so all work perfectly with the control pad.
2. Web browsing is good, supports zoom while panning, scrolling is smooth on most web pages, and it's fast. I don't view much flash but the flash I have seen is always fine.
3. The phone is snappy as hell. After deleting the bloat, and installing a custom kernel, which allows overclock, my phone has zero lag. None, I can bounce between apps super fast and without any wait at all. Boot time is comparible to the iphone 4's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKsR8xyFz9A
This is a video I made to show the nonsense of the other video, but it works for letting you know exactly how long it takes to boot.
4. Touch screen is nice and responsive. The only times I find it gets a little weird is when my fingers are all sweaty, like after wearing gloves. But this is normal for capacitive touch screens.
5. I get better reception than my old HTC legend, so yes, it's no slouch as a phone. Texting is just like texting on other phones. Wifi works great, super fast download speeds.
Thanks for all your replies ! This sounds great ! I'm so impatient now !
Finally a mobile device allowing me to do everything I like, I waited that for years !
speedyink saved me the post, for which I thank him.
You're not the only one who has been waiting for this kind of phone like a godsend. In particular people who don't make heavy use of the phone features are happy with it.
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-ericsson-xperia-play
£169.00
hi there,
I'm also one of those who bought a 230 euro xperia play from expansys and craving for it to arrive
In the meantime i did browse through here a little and there's something that concernes me. I'm coming from a good old xperia x10 and i loved every inch of it, my questions about the play are:
1)I've been reading that it has some issues with accelerometer and compass. I suppose that is going to make google maps/navigation a mess? Is it still good enough or the xperia play in that matter is actually WORSE than my X10?
2) stupid question, but what about custom roms/kernel? I've seen that there aren't many of them and most are still in development, which do you suggest (apart from stick to stock rom)?
thanks in advance!
pelly_jelly said:
hi there,
I'm also one of those who bought a 230 euro xperia play from expansys and craving for it to arrive
In the meantime i did browse through here a little and there's something that concernes me. I'm coming from a good old xperia x10 and i loved every inch of it, my questions about the play are:
1)I've been reading that it has some issues with accelerometer and compass. I suppose that is going to make google maps/navigation a mess? Is it still good enough or the xperia play in that matter is actually WORSE than my X10?
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There are 9 phones reported to have this issue. probably a bad batch. dont worry to much about it. unless you get one of them of course.
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2) stupid question, but what about custom roms/kernel? I've seen that there aren't many of them and most are still in development, which do you suggest (apart from stick to stock rom)?
thanks in advance!
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I use cyanogenmod
Mael5trom said:
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-ericsson-xperia-play
£169.00
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I think with vat it is more expensive than at expansys.co.uk at least before delivery. Hope it helps someone who is looking to get one.
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I just got mine from play.com free delivery and only £199, very good phone annoyed at the limited root access but it's all good
u only pay vat in the uk dont u? ive never payed it for imports into australia.
You are right about vat for the UK. Hope they ship to Australia and no custom duty is charged there. Unbelievably low price for the greatest mobile i have known.
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Regarding Web browsing,other phones like HTC,sgs2 are way faster.The zoom is great though,as is the scrolling.It takes more time to load the webpages though.
Battery life is good,you will get through a day with 2 hours per day
The touchscreen i dislike compare to Iphone or SG,hopefully a custom kernel can fix that...
Those are the things i dislike,but i wanted a PSEmulator first,then phone
Azeazezar said:
There are 9 phones reported to have this issue. probably a bad batch. dont worry to much about it. unless you get one of them of course.
I use cyanogenmod
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oh that's good news. Let's hope the price is low cause all those price-cut phones are the malfunctioning ones
As for CM7, i'm a huge fan, but for the play is it stable, is it 100% usable for everyday's life?
[email protected] its still in development,so not yet.
sorry guys,
is this the exact 3d of cyanogenmod?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128216
thanks
SE XPlay £149.99 + £5 credit on PAYG
ps3taker said:
so £154.99 total on UK T-mobile - here is the link http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/son...-payg-t-mobile-154-99-chitter-chatter-1029194
or sim free at costco for £161.98 but membership if you don't have one is from £20 here is the link http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/son...-black-sim-free-161-98-costco-instore-1028102
Hope it helps someone or even everyone - the more people have xplay the more games will be optimized for it ... unless someone cares about the resell value only
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289838
Hope it helps someone
Mekano said:
1. Gaming: I'm a old school gamer and emulation is my first motive for buying this phone. Are emulators (Arcade, GBC, GBA, Genesis, SNES, PSX, N64) working flawlessly with XP gamepad ?
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If this is your first motive then immediately buy this phone! I've tried multiple phones (touch screens and qwerty keyboard models) and this is by far the best one for emulation.
Haven't tried all consoles yet as I'm a fan of the 16-bit era, but SNESoid and Gensoid work flawlessly with any rom I've thrown at them so far. They also allow you to save emulator state, add cheats and take screenshots. N64oid is supposed to be good too, but haven't tried that one yet and for PSX you can use FPSE. Since N64 works GBA and GBC should be no problem. Arcade probably depends on the game you want to play, because newer games require more power obviously.
Hi,
I was wondering if any of you guys could suggest a stable word processor for Android? If that is possible. I am dealing with long text documents, 50,000+ words, so if there is nothing available that can handle that I understand. Kingston Office couldn't handle any relatively large word documents.
Perhaps I am asking too much of a mobile operating system, but my laptop is on its last legs and is slowwwww as hell.
My hardware is Nexus 7, although I also have Nexus 4 but I imagine the smaller screen to be insufficient for writing these documents.
Thanks,
Jota+ allows 1 million letters/symbols:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.sblo.pandora.jota.plus
It also incorporates a spellchecker (for english). It is however not a fully fledged wordprocessor.
I bought Office Suite Pro when it was in a sale and it works really well on my Nexus.
It also connects to Dropbox.
I have Kingston Office and like d4v3w bought Office Suite Pro during the sale, for me the latter is much better and it handles Excel better too.
I am a long time android "fanboy" but work in a Microsoft world! . I have to admit I have really liked the surface...I am selling my nexus 10 to get one, I did see that staples will be selling them for 350ish in a week or so, but should in wait until the surface 2?
Will it come out this year? Rumors say yes, but you know how that goes... Anyways just looking for input.. Get one at the price drop or wait?
Are they dropping the price to thin out the stock?
Thanks
Cdrshm
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They didn't mention a Surface 2 at Build, which would have been the obvious time to do it. Plus I think they gave the Build attendees Surface Pros. In the past they've gotten prerelease stuff. If there was a Surface 2 coming out anytime soon it would have gotten some attention. I think you're getting a Surface now.
Tk
I'd buy one all day at that price - best thin client tablet available. Only thing lacking is in games - if your a tablet gamer, there are no gameloft, or EA games to speak of - all the other stuff is there (angry birds, fruit ninja, temple run, pinball, etc), but for me, the gameloft and EA games are the only ones id pay for, and they are non-existent.
I was hoping to sell mine for 400, and get the Surface 2 when it comes out, but looks like you can get one for less brand new. Plus no one knows when the 2 will be out, could possibly have to wait till holiday season, which is months away.
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I'd buy one all day at that price - best thin client tablet available. Only thing lacking is in games - if your a tablet gamer, there are no gameloft, or EA games to speak of - all the other stuff is there (angry birds, fruit ninja, temple run, pinball, etc), but for me, the gameloft and EA games are the only ones id pay for, and they are non-existent.
I was hoping to sell mine for 400, and get the Surface 2 when it comes out, but looks like you can get one for less brand new. Plus no one knows when the 2 will be out, could possibly have to wait till holiday season, which is months away.
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I play some games, but primarily I use it for web surfing, forums, email... that kind of stuff... I love my nexus 10, but would like a better web browsing experience. I don't want to constantly have to change it to desktop mode.... would like desktop web browsing experience (FLASH) on a tablet.... that is clean and fast!
I don't think I can go wrong picking one up for $350, I think they are only doing it for one week, so if after a few weeks im hoping I could still get 400 for it.... i wish they had more info on a release date for the surface 2... I would definitely hold out for one if they were coming this year... Thanks for you input...
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I play some games, but primarily I use it for web surfing, forums, email... that kind of stuff... I love my nexus 10, but would like a better web browsing experience. I don't want to constantly have to change it to desktop mode.... would like desktop web browsing experience (FLASH) on a tablet.... that is clean and fast!
I don't think I can go wrong picking one up for $350, I think they are only doing it for one week, so if after a few weeks im hoping I could still get 400 for it.... i wish they had more info on a release date for the surface 2... I would definitely hold out for one if they were coming this year... Thanks for you input...
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If that's all your using it for, then RT is your device - flash support built in, and with 8.1 you get outlook - but to be honest, I actually prefer the modern mail app because it is more touch friendly - that being said, when im sitting at my desk doing work, having outlook is great.
I have an Android phone - and had the original Asus Transformer - I felt that it was kind of bulky with the keyboard attachment, and when detached, it was literally the same as my phone, albeit with a much larger screen. I was running the same apps, and the same games on my phone as my tablet, so it didn't really feel like a necessary device to me. I felt more comfortable holding my phone for gaming, and would occasionally use teamviewer, or Logmein to do work on my laptop remotely (which was much slower than RT's native RDP). I honestly felt that the apps ran better on the phone than on the tablet - there was considerable lag in everything I was doing, both on my phone and tablet, which drives me crazy. It was basically a pointless device for me.
The Surface RT on the other hand, feels like a real computer. I got it on launch, and was a bit disappointed at first, but the wave of updates made it more stable, and it has been great. Since ive gotten it, I sold my transformer, and even my wife who typically used my Ipad2 for web browsing prefers the RT. I am not App crazy person, I really only use the basics, and the full web browser sold me on RT. When i read people bash the thing because it has no legacy support for windows applications i just lmao.......you never hear someone say, why doesn't my ipad run photoshop - point is, there are a lot of idiots out there. The only app i use on my phone / ipad (besides the occasional game) that is not available on the Surface is Flipboard, and that is coming out shortly.
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If that's all your using it for, then RT is your device - flash support built in, and with 8.1 you get outlook - but to be honest, I actually prefer the modern mail app because it is more touch friendly - that being said, when im sitting at my desk doing work, having outlook is great.
I have an Android phone - and had the original Asus Transformer - I felt that it was kind of bulky with the keyboard attachment, and when detached, it was literally the same as my phone, albeit with a much larger screen. I was running the same apps, and the same games on my phone as my tablet, so it didn't really feel like a necessary device to me. I felt more comfortable holding my phone for gaming, and would occasionally use teamviewer, or Logmein to do work on my laptop remotely (which was much slower than RT's native RDP). I honestly felt that the apps ran better on the phone than on the tablet - there was considerable lag in everything I was doing, both on my phone and tablet, which drives me crazy. It was basically a pointless device for me.
The Surface RT on the other hand, feels like a real computer. I got it on launch, and was a bit disappointed at first, but the wave of updates made it more stable, and it has been great. Since ive gotten it, I sold my transformer, and even my wife who typically used my Ipad2 for web browsing prefers the RT. I am not App crazy person, I really only use the basics, and the full web browser sold me on RT. When i read people bash the thing because it has no legacy support for windows applications i just lmao.......you never hear someone say, why doesn't my ipad run photoshop - point is, there are a lot of idiots out there. The only app i use on my phone / ipad (besides the occasional game) that is not available on the Surface is Flipboard, and that is coming out shortly.
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Well I did take the plunge and purchased one! I have to say I love it... I am still running 8 but did just a few tweak's, like disabling defender.
I agree with the transformers lag. I had the TF300 and it was terrible, especially at web surfing, or downloading multiple apps.. the I/O was awful...
I would usually download the "News" apps because it was better than the website/or mobile site.. but with the RT I just go to the website...
I agree with you 100% with everything you mentioned. I have talked to a few people that "complain" that it doesn't x86 apps... but that's not the point of it... I have laptops and computers and all that...I don't want another one... I really like the 8 interface on a tablet... I would be ok with no Desktop at all... I loved my google nexus and its beautiful screen...but I really like the RT. "I really only use the basics, and the full web browser sold me on RT. " -- Couldn't agree with you More .. no changing to desktop mode, or flash issues.... I have noticed that this site on the RT is a little slow...not sure cause of all the data on one page and ads and the such...
I ran 8.1 for a little bit, it was nice, but I will wait for it to be a little more refined...or final release...
The Pro is a great machine, I just can't justify the price.... love the speed..... They are smoking fast. At work we purchased a thinkpad helix... This thing is a monster. HD Screen, I7, 8GB memory, 250 SSD.....but heavy, I didn't really enjoy it as a tablet, it got very warm, battery life sucked, and you could hear the fans running....
With the rap Microsoft gets about windows 8 and all the hate, they put out a mobile tablet device that runs "APPS, and Office Productivity) and then get beat up over it... I don't understand...
The only thing I wish I could get is: 1. A Cheap touch cover... 20-30 bucks( Wishful Thinking - I know...) ..or just a smart cover like they make for the ipad but locks into place like the touch cover.
Anyways thanks again for your feed back!
cdrshm
I have no problem using tablet with windows 8 RT, and the MS office for home and students are good enough for me to use. I have 4 windows 8 RT tablets for my family. One of my family members uses one of these tablets at graduate school. Three of our family members use Android phones but two android tablets at home are put aside now. It is great to hear that MS starts cutting down the price of Surface RT. The price of windows 8 RT tablet is within the upper range of the price of a netbook ($275 to $375 with keyboard dock) is reasonable enough to purchase.