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[Q] Note 3 boot loop after root

So I looked into all the stuff for rooting my T-mobile Note 3, checked to make sure that the multi touch bug wasn't there (I think I did it right), red up on the process and watched the video for the CF auto root 3 times before I did it. The root went without a hitch, I was able to install a few root programs (titanium, pimp my rom, Greenify, FullScreen, DriveDroid, Good Mood Droid Gesture Control, Stick Mount, AFWall+, Samba File Sharing, and some others I can't recall off the top of my head).
I was able to make a back up with Titanium, I went into AFWall+ and tweaked all my apps (only white apps in the list) and there was another "security" app I used, but it's name eludes me at this time (it was fairly similar to AFWall+. After that the phone just goes through a incessant boot loop. Starts up (which takes a little bit longer then normal), works for about 60 seconds normally, locks up and restarts. I tried pulling the battery and shutting it down, but it continues to do it.
I'm just wondering what could have caused this, how to fix it and what to do to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Thanks

DictatorZero said:
So I looked into all the stuff for rooting my T-mobile Note 3, checked to make sure that the multi touch bug wasn't there (I think I did it right), red up on the process and watched the video for the CF auto root 3 times before I did it. The root went without a hitch, I was able to install a few root programs (titanium, pimp my rom, Greenify, FullScreen, DriveDroid, Good Mood Droid Gesture Control, Stick Mount, AFWall+, Samba File Sharing, and some others I can't recall off the top of my head).
I was able to make a back up with Titanium, I went into AFWall+ and tweaked all my apps (only white apps in the list) and there was another "security" app I used, but it's name eludes me at this time (it was fairly similar to AFWall+. After that the phone just goes through a incessant boot loop. Starts up (which takes a little bit longer then normal), works for about 60 seconds normally, locks up and restarts. I tried pulling the battery and shutting it down, but it continues to do it.
I'm just wondering what could have caused this, how to fix it and what to do to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Thanks
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If I were you I would start over again and Odin flash the stock official N900T 4.3 stock rom from
SamMobile.com or any other place which has it available for downloading.
After doing that, use the cf-auto root to root the phone and odin flash twrp or cwm recovery.
Once that's done make a Nandroid backup in recovery so next time when you have these bootloops,
lockups and other issues you can simply restore your rooted Nandroid backup.
All those apps you mentioned with the exception of titanium backup which you used to "TWEAK" your
phone are causing the issues you are having, there is no good reason to even use all those tweaking
apps and most likely are totally un-necessary in the first place.
If your phone works properly after odin flashing official stock firmware and rooting it then the fault
is not in the phone, or the official rom but the fault is in one of those tweaking tools you like to use
either because it's faulty, or you don't know how to use it.

If you can get into advanced settings of your WiFi connection in the 60 seconds before freezing, uncheck "always allow scanning". This had been known to cause boot loops for some people.
If it still loops, try uninstalling all those apps one by one to see which so is causing the issue.
And if that doesn't fix it, I would do as suggested above with the restore.
Sent from any phone that isn't made by Apple.

Maybe you could try something simple first: safe boot. In safe boot the culprit app should not start and if the damage is not in system files, that should give you chance to delete programs one by one and possibly find a culprit, otherwise, if you restore the ROM, you'll never know which one caused the problem. I would assume you wiped cache and if all failed, maybe factory reset?

[Q] CyanogenMod not getiing installed. SuperSU Crashing.

Hello All,
I am a beginner to all this stuff. I wanted to root my phone after seeing OnePlus One running on CyanogenMod. So, first I tried to directly install the Mod using the softwares downloaded from Cyanogen's website. But the software gave the error "Unsupported Firmware". Then I researched a bit on manually installing the mod. I followed the instructions.
- First I rooted my phone with Odin 3.09v
- Installed ROM Manger on my phone (Meanwhile the SuperSU app kept on crashing)
- Somehow I managed to install ClockworkMod (What I did was downloaded SuperSU apk, installed it again. It started working and then, not losing the chance I installed ClockworkMod).
- Then I tried to install CyanogenMod through ROM Manager
- My phone re-booted and then gave a error "Can't install package on incompatible data".
- I'm having the latest snapshot version on CyanogenMod.
- Then I left the things as it is. No rooting, unrooting, etc.
- So, now I tried to take backup of my current ROM, in case something happens at least I'll be having something with me to recover
- I used ROM Manager to take backup. But it gave the error "Can't create the image"
So, now I'm stuck between middle of nowhere. Please help me out to reach to some point.

svikramajit said:
Hello All,
I am a beginner to all this stuff. I wanted to root my phone after seeing OnePlus One running on CyanogenMod. So, first I tried to directly install the Mod using the softwares downloaded from Cyanogen's website. But the software gave the error "Unsupported Firmware". Then I researched a bit on manually installing the mod. I followed the instructions.
- First I rooted my phone with Odin 3.09v
- Installed ROM Manger on my phone (Meanwhile the SuperSU app kept on crashing)
- Somehow I managed to install ClockworkMod (What I did was downloaded SuperSU apk, installed it again. It started working and then, not losing the chance I installed ClockworkMod).
- Then I tried to install CyanogenMod through ROM Manager
- My phone re-booted and then gave a error "Can't install package on incompatible data".
- I'm having the latest snapshot version on CyanogenMod.
- Then I left the things as it is. No rooting, unrooting, etc.
- So, now I tried to take backup of my current ROM, in case something happens at least I'll be having something with me to recover
- I used ROM Manager to take backup. But it gave the error "Can't create the image"
So, now I'm stuck between middle of nowhere. Please help me out to reach to some point.
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Ok, first I think your SuperSu is not working properly. Open the Supersu app to see if it needs to update binaries. If it continues to crash, go into recovery manually (not using rom manager) and flash the latest SuperSu. Wipe Cache, go to advanced and Wipe Dalvik. Reboot. Your phone will say "android is upgrading" for a bit. Once it's booted up, go back into the supersu app and see if it needs to update binaries, if so- let it update, if not- move on. Here's a link to download SuperSu 2.02
Go back into recovery manually and select backup and restore-> backup to sdcard (or sdcard1, external sd, is my preference) This will start the backup process.
Once that is done, you need to find the CyanogenMod file specific to your phone, then you can enter recovery and flash it.
If you have trouble entering recovery, you can flash a new one via recovery or with odin.

Hello absinthesummer,
I followed every instruction you told. Now I'm done till creating backup. The problem now I'm facing is this 'Status 7' error. It says "Can't install package on incompatible data.....". Now what to do?

Status 7 is a very specific error. It means your recovery is out of date. Get the absolute newest you can find and try again. This is good news though, you've got progress!
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Edit: flash the latest recovery you can find via Odin. You probably won't be able to do it in recovery while you're getting the status 7 error.

absinthesummer said:
Status 7 is a very specific error. It means your recovery is out of date. Get the absolute newest you can find and try again. This is good news though, you've got progress!
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Edit: flash the latest recovery you can find via Odin. You probably won't be able to do it in recovery while you're getting the status 7 error.
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No, I've got the latest recovery. But I figured out the problem. It was with the package I downloaded. The CM 11 M9 version was giving errors. I researched and tried few fixes, but still it didn't work.
The fixes I tried :-
1. Deleting some coding lines from the updater-script file. But this fix gave the status 6 error.
2. Changing the updater-script file format to UNIX format. Then again it gave the status 7 error.
So, what I did, when I had no more brain to fix it, I downloaded the CM 11 M6 version and tried installing it. And VOILA! It worked. Then I updated it to M9 version through phone. Now it's working. Though it has some bugs. And some features are missing too that I wanted badly.

svikramajit said:
No, I've got the latest recovery. But I figured out the problem. It was with the package I downloaded. The CM 11 M9 version was giving errors. I researched and tried few fixes, but still it didn't work.
The fixes I tried :-
1. Deleting some coding lines from the updater-script file. But this fix gave the status 6 error.
2. Changing the updater-script file format to UNIX format. Then again it gave the status 7 error.
So, what I did, when I had no more brain to fix it, I downloaded the CM 11 M6 version and tried installing it. And VOILA! It worked. Then I updated it to M9 version through phone. Now it's working. Though it has some bugs. And some features are missing too that I wanted badly.
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Awesome! I'm glad you got it working. You can also try comparing the two files to see what's different, or maybe swap the updater script. Maybe you'll be able to get the one you wanted working with a little modification

absinthesummer said:
Awesome! I'm glad you got it working. You can also try comparing the two files to see what's different, or maybe swap the updater script. Maybe you'll be able to get the one you wanted working with a little modification
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Thanks to you. You too helped me in working it out!
But, I have some more questions
Question 1 : If I flash stock ROM on my rooted phone, will I receive the new updates? If yes, will I be able to install them via Kies on my phone without getting into any trouble?
Question 2 : If I install stock ROM of any other phone, say Galaxy S5, will it work on my phone properly without any problems? If yes, will I receive the updates for that too and able to install them via Kies? If no, is there any way to install it? Cause I have seen people using S5 ROM on Note 2.

First question the answer is yes. As long as you have the stock recovery and stock kernel (along with the stock rom) you will receive ota updates. You can use ota root keeper (an app) to keep root during an ota update. There are many people who choose to stay fully stock but root to get rid of bloatware & stuff. However, if you want to get ota, I recommend freezing the bloatware instead of uninstalling, because an ota usually replaces old bloatware with new bloatware and can sometimes abort the ota if those apps are missing... but keep on mind this is not always the case, only certain devices.
Second question, no you cannot. Roms from other devices have to be ported to be compatible. But if you look in the development forums, you can find many roms that are basically stock but have specific features from other roms, along with the system ui (ie S5, note 3, & so forth). These rom devs have ported either parts/features or full on roms to be compatible on our device. They are excellent! I recommend reading up them and if you see some you like, try them out!

absinthesummer said:
First question the answer is yes. As long as you have the stock recovery and stock kernel (along with the stock rom) you will receive ota updates. You can use ota root keeper (an app) to keep root during an ota update. There are many people who choose to stay fully stock but root to get rid of bloatware & stuff. However, if you want to get ota, I recommend freezing the bloatware instead of uninstalling, because an ota usually replaces old bloatware with new bloatware and can sometimes abort the ota if those apps are missing... but keep on mind this is not always the case, only certain devices.
Second question, no you cannot. Roms from other devices have to be ported to be compatible. But if you look in the development forums, you can find many roms that are basically stock but have specific features from other roms, along with the system ui (ie S5, note 3, & so forth). These rom devs have ported either parts/features or full on roms to be compatible on our device. They are excellent! I recommend reading up them and if you see some you like, try them out!
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- Stock Recovery
- Stock Kernel
- OTA Root Keeper
- Bloatware
Well, to be honest, just right now I learned these new terms but know nothing about them. Can you please give me a brief description for these four terms so that when I do advanced search on them, I'd have a idea in my mind about what these are. It will make it easy for me to understand the advance things.
And I'm looking for S5 ROM for my phone. Let's see what I get.

One more question. I made a backup of my rooted stock ROM via latest ClockwordMod, manually. Now, if I reset the binary counter using Triangle Away and then wipe Cache and Dalvik and then flash my stock ROM which is located on my memory card and then after flashing I use SuperSU to unroot and then a factory reset (I don't know the method of factory reseting cause I'm confused. Whether to do it manually, like going into recovery mode or just from the phone settings. So please tell me this also.), will my phone be unrooted totally?
And sorry for bugging you so much. I hate to do that, but I don't want to take risk with my phone. So I am just collecting information. I hope so many queries are not a problem for you.

Ok...
You already know what a rom is. A kernel is a lower-level base. It controls the hardware. So when you do something on the interface, in the rom, it tells the hardware how to react. (Ie if you're playing music it tells which speakers to play and how loudly). The kernel controls almost everything you can't see, it relates to performance. Most stock kernels can be limiting as they underclock the cpu by a certain percentage. Because of this, people seek out custom kernels to max out their device's potential. Louder speakers, faster cpu, better graphics, etc. This is all stuff the kernel can optimize... but because you can change so many factors there is a risk of instability if you push your device too hard (max performance) or limit it too much (max battery saving).
Recovery is exactly what it sounds like. When you boot your device the very first screen that pops up is the bootloader. It's giving you time to boot in 3 different modes. The first mode, by doing nothing, is a normal boot into the rom/OS. The second mode, which you get to by one button combination, takes you to recovery. The stock recovery is very limited. It gives you the option to factory restore, wipe cache, update, or boot normally. Stock recovery only exists for emergencies, if your phone fails to boot normally. We have custom recoveries so we can do more stuff, flash custom roms and tinker with things. The third mode is download mode/Odin mode. This is the bootloader interface itself. It's the last resort for recovery if your recovery has been damaged or corrupted. It allows you to connect to Odin or kies and perform an emergency recovery of the device. If you damage your bootloader, your device is completely bricked.
So the order of operation is this:
Lowest level- bootloader
Second level- recovery
Third level- kernel
Fourth level- rom
Bloatware is all the pre-installed apps that your carrier adds to your phone. Most people don't use it, don't like it, and don't want it. That why we root. Without root we basically are just guest users of the device. With root we become the administrators of the device. Until you root, your carrier has admin rights over your phone (to use windows terms).
When you receive an ota update, your carrier can make it to where the update won't proceed if their pre-installed apps have been removed (although this isn't always the case). Additionally, the update package itself checks the integrity of the device. It checks recovery, kernel, and rom. If any have been altered, it will not proceed because it could cause conflict and potentially brick your device. That's why those things have to be stock.
Ota root keeper is simply an app that backs up your superuser rights before an update and restores them after its done.
You should be able to find plenty of roms with S5 features. I'm using one that makes my device fully like an S5 (my device even thinks it is an S5 and every app identifies it as such) I can think of at least 2 others as well. There's plenty to choose from, and if you see a rom you like but it's mudding a particular feature, you can probably find that feature as a stand-alone installation in the forum's themes & apps section. Just about every feature of S5, S4, and note 3 has been ported to this device, so look around!
Also, for future reference, if someone helps you on the forum, hit the thanks button instead of saying it. I don't mind either way, but some people get annoyed and will stop helping them if they don't hit that button lol. It's silly, but it's part of "forum decorum"
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svikramajit said:
One more question. I made a backup of my rooted stock ROM via latest ClockwordMod, manually. Now, if I reset the binary counter using Triangle Away and then wipe Cache and Dalvik and then flash my stock ROM which is located on my memory card and then after flashing I use SuperSU to unroot and then a factory reset (I don't know the method of factory reseting cause I'm confused. Whether to do it manually, like going into recovery mode or just from the phone settings. So please tell me this also.), will my phone be unrooted totally?
And sorry for bugging you so much. I hate to do that, but I don't want to take risk with my phone. So I am just collecting information. I hope so many queries are not a problem for you.
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You're fine, I don't mind answering your questions. Yes, you can unroot fully in the way you just mentioned but you don't even have to go through all the trouble of factory reset. Just unroot in the app. The app can be uninstalled afterwards via the play store.
You can factory reset either way, the same commands are given no matter which way you go about it. But it can be more efficient to do it from recovery because when you do it from the rom it has to create a wipe script for when it reboots, and it has to shut down the rom first. If you do it from recovery it doesn't have to anything, the rom isn't running and it can execute the wipe command immediately. (The wipe command is wipe /data /cache etc)

Thanks again for all that great info!
Questions : Is there no way to fix the Bootloader if it gets damaged by chance? And which S5 ROM are you using?

svikramajit said:
Thanks again for all that great info!
Questions : Is there no way to fix the Bootloader if it gets damaged by chance? And which S5 ROM are you using?
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If you damage the bootloader it's a hard brick and you would have to send it in for jtag services (this is a low level emmc chip flash service) The bootloader won't get damaged unless you do something to corrupt it. If you ever feel the need to flash a new bootloader, do it via Odin, never recovery! If you remember that you should be fine.

svikramajit said:
Thanks again for all that great info!
Questions : Is there no way to fix the Bootloader if it gets damaged by chance? And which S5 ROM are you using?
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I meant to tell you I'm using DN3 rom. It has an aroma installer that lets you choose whether you want an S5 ui, a note 3 ui or a mixed ui. Choosing S5 ui & S5 build prop allows your device to work with S5 apps & it looks just like an S5. It's not the only rom out there, but it's beautiful, fast, and stable & the team works hard on it.

absinthesummer said:
I meant to tell you I'm using DN3 rom. It has an aroma installer that lets you choose whether you want an S5 ui, a note 3 ui or a mixed ui. Choosing S5 ui & S5 build prop allows your device to work with S5 apps & it looks just like an S5. It's not the only rom out there, but it's beautiful, fast, and stable & the team works hard on it.
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Hey absinthesummer!
I tried to unroot my phone with the method I told you. But in the restore option, I am stuck at 'Checking MD5 Sums..'. What to do now?

MD5 checking takes forever! You have to wait it out. Most recoveries offer a way to turn it off. You shouldn't have to factory reset though, just click unroot in the super su app and then uninstall the app from the play store.

absinthesummer said:
MD5 checking takes forever! You have to wait it out. Most recoveries offer a way to turn it off. You shouldn't have to factory reset though, just click unroot in the super su app and then uninstall the app from the play store.
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I waited and the system was restored. But I got an error on 'Restoring Data'. I rebooted the phone and now it's showing glowing Samsung logo from like 3-4 minutes.

I've seen that before. Can you get back into recovery? You may have to flash stock in Odin, flash recovery and then do the Restore again. Data got messed up.

absinthesummer said:
I've seen that before. Can you get back into recovery? You may have to flash stock in Odin, flash recovery and then do the Restore again. Data got messed up.
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I'll try removing the battery now. Let's see what happens.

Ok if you can get into recovery, do a fresh flash and then try to restore again. And see if it offers a way to turn off MD5 checking. That's why I use philz or twrp, they offer that and move much faster through MD5 check by default.
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If you still fail on data, flash stock in Odin, flash custom recovery, then you should be able to enter recovery and have a successful restore.

[Q] Really need your expert help guys! SM-T800

Alright, I'll lay out what happened. My end goal is to just have a rooted tab, but at this point, I'd be willing to just have it back to how it was. Preferably without losing everything on it.
-Looked around on how to root it, and found the following, and use the files it suggested.
- Seemed easy enough, and I had rooted/installed android on my old HP Touchpad, so I dl'd the files, and gave it a shot.
- Couldn't get CWM recovery on it, so I ran verify root and it said it wasn't rooted, even though I has SuperSU. It would even ask to grant apps permission, and I'd grant it.
- I opened SuperSU, and it'd say it needed to update the binaries, but would fail on normal, so I dl'd the newest zip, booted into recovery, and tried to load it like that, but 2 lines would come up red. I think they were just verifying signatures, so I ignored it and let it reboot.
- I opened SuperSU again, and it still said it needed the binaries updated, failed on normal attempt. I decided to try again from scratch, unrooting it and all. So, I went into the SuperSU settings and did it's thing, but it still had the version of SuperSU that initially was on it (it wouldn't let me past the "update binaries" prompt).
- I found that I needed to use Odin to flash a stock firmware back on it, and dl'd both version here.
- I tried the first one, and then it wouldn't get past the "Samsung" screen (the 2nd one with just the word Samsung, if it matters).
- I can still boot into Odin and Recovery, thankfully, so I tried the 2nd stock firmware. Same issue.
- Finally, I tried the rooting process again, hoping to get it to boot, same thing. So, I tried the 2nd stock firmware again, praying something good would happen, and still stuck on the Samsung screen.
I can still boot into Odin and recovery, but I have no idea where to go from here. I still want it rooted if possible, and I'd prefer not to lose all my games and such. I just found "[ROOT][RECOVERY] [ALL IN ONE] Cf-Autoroot-twrp-T800-T805-T-700-T705" thread here, but I didn't want to try it just yet.
It's a SM-T800. I had Lollipop on it. Don't know much else to add, but please help!
Thanks all.

Cypher5235 said:
Alright, I'll lay out what happened. My end goal is to just have a rooted tab, but at this point, I'd be willing to just have it back to how it was. Preferably without losing everything on it.
-Looked around on how to root it, and found the following, and use the files it suggested.
- Seemed easy enough, and I had rooted/installed android on my old HP Touchpad, so I dl'd the files, and gave it a shot.
- Couldn't get CWM recovery on it, so I ran verify root and it said it wasn't rooted, even though I has SuperSU. It would even ask to grant apps permission, and I'd grant it.
- I opened SuperSU, and it'd say it needed to update the binaries, but would fail on normal, so I dl'd the newest zip, booted into recovery, and tried to load it like that, but 2 lines would come up red. I think they were just verifying signatures, so I ignored it and let it reboot.
- I opened SuperSU again, and it still said it needed the binaries updated, failed on normal attempt. I decided to try again from scratch, unrooting it and all. So, I went into the SuperSU settings and did it's thing, but it still had the version of SuperSU that initially was on it (it wouldn't let me past the "update binaries" prompt).
- I found that I needed to use Odin to flash a stock firmware back on it, and dl'd both version here.
- I tried the first one, and then it wouldn't get past the "Samsung" screen (the 2nd one with just the word Samsung, if it matters).
- I can still boot into Odin and Recovery, thankfully, so I tried the 2nd stock firmware. Same issue.
- Finally, I tried the rooting process again, hoping to get it to boot, same thing. So, I tried the 2nd stock firmware again, praying something good would happen, and still stuck on the Samsung screen.
I can still boot into Odin and recovery, but I have no idea where to go from here. I still want it rooted if possible, and I'd prefer not to lose all my games and such. I just found "[ROOT][RECOVERY] [ALL IN ONE] Cf-Autoroot-twrp-T800-T805-T-700-T705" thread here, but I didn't want to try it just yet.
It's a SM-T800. I had Lollipop on it. Don't know much else to add, but please help!
Thanks all.
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Well... you said you just updated to lollipop, but in order to not stay stuck at splash screen, you have to factory reset. I saw that you don't want to lose your games and such so you probably only have one option. That option is to flash twrp and make a nandroid of your data. Simply boot into download mode, download the twrp .tar http://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxytabs105.html
And now go into Odin, untick autoreboot, now hit the pda/AP button and pick the twrp tar. Hit start and let it do its thing. Now after its done flashing, your gonna have to force reboot. Simply hold power+volume up and down+home button all at the same time. Wait a bit and when the screen turns black, quickly press power+volume up+ home buttons all at the same time and it should boot into twrp.
Now in twrp, hit backup and hit backup data. Hopefully that should save your apps installed. Now after its done, go into wipe and silde factory reset. It should remove installed apps from Google play store and it won't remove pictures and such. It just removes the apps you installed. Then now reboot and wait....
Hopefully this helped
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As said you will have to factory reset, this will wipe data and cache.
You can use the link you posted above to install TWRP and root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
Lollipop changes the data partition so even if you back it up and then restore it with twrp In kitkat it likely won't boot afterwards.
All you can do is wipe it and take the hit.

Alright, I have TWRP running. The size of my "data" is just over 16 gig, and my space on the sdcard is 14.9 gig, so I've been trying to delete data to knock it down. I still have 1.3 gig to go. Everything I'm deleting, in the data folder, is barely making an impact.
I see what you're saying that I probably won't be able to restore it and have it work, but I still will try. I can always factory reset it again later. Once I wipe it, though, and update back to lollipop, couldn't I restore that data backup?
I gotta take a break and knock out some real work, lol, then I'll continue, and update here. If nothing else, maybe it'll help some other poor soul like me in the future!
Once I have it booting all the way again, do I just use TWRP to install SuperSU and it's rooted? Thanks again. I appreciate it!

Not sure what youre trying to do here. Just wipe the data partition with twrp,
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Ashyx, I was just trying to save my game data, while ending up with a rooted tab. And you were right, of course! I tried to restore the back up to no avail, haha....well, I wiped it again, and it booted up just fine, and it is rooted to boot. I can't believe it was that easy with TWRP to root it.
I'm betting this isn't going to work out, but is there anyway to extract my game data from that backup I made, and transfer just that back to my tablet? If it is possible, it'll probably be beyond my ability, I bet, but I'm just curious.
One other question. With TWRP, can I get Lollipop back on it? Or do I need something else on it first?
Now, it's off to figure out how to get my Impulse Controller to work with it so I can play my games with it!
Thanks for helping me out, regardless. I truly thought I had bricked my $600 tablet. My wife would've killed me for wasting that much money, lol!

There is an app called nandroid manager that will allow you to extract data from nandroids, you could extract your game data with that.
The better way would be to make a system and data backup of your current system, reflash lollipop then restore your lollipop data backup. Then back up your game data with titanium backup.
Restore your kitkat backup then restore your game data with tb.

Recover, Root disappearing, WiFi breaking.

Ok I am having some serious issues as of late, I am far from an Android expert but have been using and rooting them since Android started, and I am also a Linux user. So as stated in the subject I have been getting these issues (not always together).
Recovery will disappear after a normal reboot.
Root will disappear after a normal reboot.
WiFi is "broken" after a normal reboot (is disabled, and can't be enabled).
My status bar disappears.
This has happened across a few different roms, but my main is Team OctOs Oct-N. This is making no sense to me at all. These things will happen after a ROM has already been setup and working for a time, that is what has me scratching my head. The only thing I can think of is some system has changed in the Pixel XL ROMs that I don't know about or something. I always start from a fresh phone, flashing google images, installing the rom the proper way, I always follow the devs install procedure for the most part (depending on the ROM) it is flash rom, flash vendor, flash twrp, reboot into twrp, flash gapps. Everything goes good it runs fine, and then some time after, sometimes a few days later, sometimes a few hours later, one or a combo of the issues listed above happen. I though maybe there was an issue with the actual rom. So i decided to try 1 or 2 other roms but some issue still arrives. Also when twrp wont boot (because it apparently disappeared) I reinstall it properly, and one would think I would be able to boot back into the existing system, but it don't, it always boots right back into twrp.
I am at a complete loss and the only thing I can think of is something has changed with the Pixel system that I am unaware of. Any info would be great I know that this is not a good description on what is actually happening but that's it I have no idea at all. Have a great day and thanks.

I have found that to get TWRP to stick I have to flash the zip and whatever else I'm flashing, then boot into my rom, then boot back into fastboot TWRP and flash the TWRP zip again, then boot back into the rom.
Root is tricky on this phone. Nobody can really answer what's going on there without knowing what month bootloader you are using, what app and what version of the app you are trying to use to root.
The other problems really sound Rom related. If you want to go from a truly fresh start with no chance of any corruption on either partition you might want to run flash-all.bat of the Google factory image separately to partition a and then to partition b. That cleared up problems for me in the past but I'm not sure why.
You might also consider running stock and seeing if the WiFi or status bar problems persist.

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Ok I am having some serious issues as of late, I am far from an Android expert but have been using and rooting them since Android started, and I am also a Linux user. So as stated in the subject I have been getting these issues (not always together).
Recovery will disappear after a normal reboot.
Root will disappear after a normal reboot.
WiFi is "broken" after a normal reboot (is disabled, and can't be enabled).
My status bar disappears.
This has happened across a few different roms, but my main is Team OctOs Oct-N. This is making no sense to me at all. These things will happen after a ROM has already been setup and working for a time, that is what has me scratching my head. The only thing I can think of is some system has changed in the Pixel XL ROMs that I don't know about or something. I always start from a fresh phone, flashing google images, installing the rom the proper way, I always follow the devs install procedure for the most part (depending on the ROM) it is flash rom, flash vendor, flash twrp, reboot into twrp, flash gapps. Everything goes good it runs fine, and then some time after, sometimes a few days later, sometimes a few hours later, one or a combo of the issues listed above happen. I though maybe there was an issue with the actual rom. So i decided to try 1 or 2 other roms but some issue still arrives. Also when twrp wont boot (because it apparently disappeared) I reinstall it properly, and one would think I would be able to boot back into the existing system, but it don't, it always boots right back into twrp.
I am at a complete loss and the only thing I can think of is something has changed with the Pixel system that I am unaware of. Any info would be great I know that this is not a good description on what is actually happening but that's it I have no idea at all. Have a great day and thanks.
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This has been a real challenge with this phone (but I'm enjoying it). Anyway, the way I got a good stable set up is flashing the factory image to both slots (a/b), then adb/fastboot to twrp.img and flash ROM, then boot up. Then again the twrp.img and flash the twrp.zip and boot up. Then do the root and boot up , then go back and do the kernel (since it's EX and I want the gestures, I boot it up rooted before I flash EX). This works for me although I'm using Pure Nexus ROM. Hope this helps you, looks similar to what was posted by jhs39.

Bootloop, how to download stock for TWRP

Hello, I recently tried to root my device, I succeed in doing so but it was systemless root, I didn't know anything at the time so I tried different versions of supersu, now my phone won't boot, only fastboot and recovery works,
I visited a thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
but I don't know which one is my stock and I'm afraid to mess it up even more,
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Can you please advise me how to recover my basic stock system :F
I remember that my installed android before it stopped working was 6.01 afaik

Your Stock is 6.12.111.4
option 1:
TWRP backup - https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/tutorial-how-to-stock-stock-twrp-t3086860
on post #3
Make sure to use TWRP 3.x.x.x not your current one as it seems you use the outdated version.
option 2 :
RUU - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24399965296001026
follow this guide but use the above RUU - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64926626&postcount=6

Thank you, my TWRP is the latest one now because my system sort of worked when I first rooted it but when I noticed that it's systemless I tried to flash system one and my phone didn't work as intended (couldn't download things on it and some other things didn't work) that's when I flashed newest twrp and newest super su and factory reset stopped working as of now and it's stuck on bootloop. Downloading that recovery, wish me luck .
Edit: it works now, thanks

One additional issue arose - my folders seem to be really wrecked, can't download anything from updates to system apps to downloading apps from playstore and even downloading apps regularly, when I made sd card my internal card I was able to download opera and wanted to select default download folder but couldn't pick any/make any and the folders were not recognizable for me (no data folder for example)
edit 2: I probably fuked up permissions too last time, fix context in twrp seems to have fixed the issue

Radenz said:
that's when I flashed newest twrp and newest super su and factory reset stopped working as of now and it's stuck on bootloop.
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Couple words to the wise:
1) Always state exact versions numbers (TWRP, SuperSU, etc.) instead of just saying it the "latest". I've seen a lot of cases, where folks ensure us they are on the "latest" and it turns out when prompted for the actual version number, they are using something from 2 years ago!
In general when posting here, it's always best to give as much detail and specific info as possible. Vague descriptions, lack of details, and assumptions are always going to hinder more than help.
2) Always make a TWRP backup of your stock ROM before doing any mods like root or custom ROM. As you now see why, things don't always go as intended. Luckily, ckpv5 maintains a collection of stock backups. But you should already know how to revert to stock and be equipped to do so, before doing the mods. Not waiting for that "panic" moment when you need it, and can't figure it out.
I'm surprised how many folks here jump into rooting, flashing custom ROMs without leaving themselves an "escape plan" of knowing how to get back to stock. Maybe it's just my personality, but I can't fathom doing any of these things without knowing beforehand how to fix them, restore stock, etc.

Thanks for advice, to be honest 3 days ago I didn't know what rooting was and searched for "root htc one m8" and got it done by a site from 2014 with a multitool that had outdated soft. What I lacked then was big red uppercase notice how to do backup because most first time rootings end up badly.

Radenz said:
Thanks for advice, to be honest 3 days ago I didn't know what rooting was and searched for "root htc one m8" and got it done by a site from 2014 with a multitool that had outdated soft. What I lacked then was big red uppercase notice how to do backup because most first time rootings end up badly.
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Yeah, completely understand if you are new to this; and we all had to start somewhere, at some time. Consider it lessons learned for next time.
A lot of folks skip the step of making a backup (before root, etc.). And also a lot of guides, YouTube tutorials, etc. neglect this step (which is something I cannot understand). So it's an honest mistake, and I'm definitely not saying that it's your fault that it wasn't done.