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Hi peeps, looked at rooting my nice new G3 and went in for the kill with towel root [emoji16] only to find out didn't support my version. Decided to go with purpledrake (not got there yet) found a couple of apps not working because of root which root checker says I don't have. My question is do I need to root now regardless even if only to unroot? To get things back to normal?
stigslim said:
Hi peeps, looked at rooting my nice new G3 and went in for the kill with towel root [emoji16] only to find out didn't support my version. Decided to go with purpledrake (not got there yet) found a couple of apps not working because of root which root checker says I don't have. My question is do I need to root now regardless even if only to unroot? To get things back to normal?
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After rooting, did you install SuperSU?
Also, there's StumpRoot as a 3rd option.
That's just it. Towel root told me my phone wasn't supported and root checker says I don't have root, yet the app in question says I do so super user seems a bit pointless.
stigslim said:
That's just it. Towel root told me my phone wasn't supported and root checker says I don't have root, yet the app in question says I do so super user seems a bit pointless.
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SuperSU is needed after you root to give apps root access. Try to install it, if it works, you're rooted and you can go along with your rooted apps.
Otherwise, try StumpRoot (Towel and Purple's didn't support my version either), install SuperSU and enjoy your root apps!
Tried to install it with no luck. Seems something's gone wrong somewhere.
Says I need to manually 're root of I just upgraded to android 4.3. As it can't install su binaries.
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stigslim said:
Tried to install it with no luck. Seems something's gone wrong somewhere.
Says I need to manually 're root of I just upgraded to android 4.3. As it can't install su binaries.
Sent from my LG-D855
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Time to give StumpRoot a shot then.
Yeah I think your right. The only issue left is the app I want to use fails when rooted and the root cloak module/app doesn't currently support it [emoji20]
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Well i tried stump root and got nowhere [emoji20] looking like purple is my only way forward. And if i want to use that particular app then root, unroot is the only way forward. [emoji45]
I want to root a new Fire Phone that came with Fire OS 4.6.1 (461013320) and upgrade to the latest Fire OS.
The phone came with an unlocking code, if that matters.
I've read through the rooting threads, and there seems to be a lot of old and conflicting info.
Is it best to root before upgrading to the latest Fire OS, or best to upgrade the Fire OS to the latest version first? I'm not planning on using CM at this time.
Is there a way to root Fire OS 4.6.1 or later without using King Root? It seems that most of the suggestions involve King Root, but then people express significant concerns about what King Root really installs. After using King Root, many people are then going through tedious processes to get rid of all the King Root stuff, and switch to SU.
I would prefer not to lose root during future Fire OS updates.
In summary, I have a new Fire Phone with Fire OS 4.6.1 that I want to root and be updated to the latest Fire OS. What is the fastest, cleanest, and safest way to accomplish this task?
Unfortunately, right now Kingroot is the only (known) method to root the Fire Phone. Then, as you said, it's recommendable to switch to SU. It's the only way, sorry.
Thanks Sergio. I thought I read a post that someone found another way to root. It was in one of the Kingroot threads, but I've been having trouble finding it. I'll keep looking.
Is it best to OTA update the Fire OS to the latest version before or after obtaining root? Do OTA's cause users to lose root?
Update before rooting, but first make sure that the last FireOS update is rootable (if FireOS 5 reaches the Fire Phone, this can't be emphasized enough).
rockpaperlizard said:
I thought I read a post that someone found another way to root. It was in one of the Kingroot threads, but I've been having trouble finding it. I'll keep looking.
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Hi, is this the post you are looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61854585&postcount=106
You can root using kingroot and then use Super-Sume to remove it.
Sorry to jump in but on a related subject I've been on rooted 461 for a few months can I still use super sume or does it have to be deployed immediately after root?
ratbags said:
Sorry to jump in but on a related subject I've been on rooted 461 for a few months can I still use super sume or does it have to be deployed immediately after root?
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Well, if you left the "auto update over wifi" option activated, (can be found in the KingUser app, not Kingroot, just to be clear) then it may have updated itself by now.
Reason why I mention this: Super-Sume is only available in the paid version. gatesjunior removed the free version from the Play Store.
So you could give it a shot with the "old" free version, that you backed up earlier *wink wink* and hope that it still works with your current "King apps".
In general: no, it doesn't have to be used immediately after Kingroot install. And since the Kingxteam is cranky, it will be the old cat and mouse game and gatesjunior will need to adjust his tool from time to time...
I managed to root my Fire Phone (Fire OS 4.6.3, T-Mobile Netlock) coupla seconds ago with Kingroot, so it's everything OK.
cthulhu1987 said:
I managed to root my Fire Phone (Fire OS 4.6.3, T-Mobile Netlock) coupla seconds ago with Kingroot, so it's everything OK.
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It's not that using Kingroot is bad per se, but that some of us (the ones that care about our data) prefer using root methods that come from reliable sources. We use SuperSU because it was developed by a XDA user we trust, and if a backdoor or vulnerability is detected, we can always PM him to get it patched. The same cannot be said about Kingroot, that uses only-god-knows-what to root the device, automatically installs a bloatware app and makes it very hard to uninstall without losing root. If you aren't concerned about who could be using your data, Kingroot is no bad for you.
jack9955 said:
Hi, is this the post you are looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61854585&postcount=106
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Thank you Jack! That's the post.
Has anyone else tried this? Seems like a better idea than Kingroot.
sergio687 said:
It's not that using Kingroot is bad per se, but that some of us (the ones that care about our data) prefer using root methods that come from reliable sources. We use SuperSU because it was developed by a XDA user we trust, and if a backdoor or vulnerability is detected, we can always PM him to get it patched. The same cannot be said about Kingroot, that uses only-god-knows-what to root the device, automatically installs a bloatware app and makes it very hard to uninstall without losing root. If you aren't concerned about who could be using your data, Kingroot is no bad for you.
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'k, can I safely uninstall this app with the Chinese name, it keeps bugging me with some kinda ad-crap?
cthulhu1987 said:
'k, can I safely uninstall this app with the Chinese name, it keeps bugging me with some kinda ad-crap?
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If you uninstall that bloat app, you'll lose root. That's one of the reasons why Kingroot is not reliable. There's not any reason at all for a root app to come with a "device management" app, and even if so, the developer wouldn't need to make it so hard to delete it without losing root. It's shady, and anyone (myself included) could think that it opens possibilities that the Kingroot combo does more than just rooting.
Getting Kingroot to root the device and then replace it with SuperSU is not mandatory, but recommendable. You decide what you do with your device
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If you uninstall that bloat app, you'll lose root. That's one of the reasons why Kingroot is not reliable. There's not any reason at all for a root app to come with a "device management" app, and even if so, the developer wouldn't need to make it so hard to delete it without losing root. It's shady, and anyone (myself included) could think that it opens possibilities that the Kingroot combo does more than just rooting.
Getting Kingroot to root the device and then replace it with SuperSU is not mandatory, but recommendable. You decide what you do with your device
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I see, so Super-sume would help me get rid of KingRoot and this annoying adware (it is not even adware in a language I speak), right?
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I see, so Super-sume would help me get rid of KingRoot and this annoying adware (it is not even adware in a language I speak), right?
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Right.
---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------
Or you could use the method @jack9955 mentioned last page.
sergio687 said:
Right.
---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------
Or you could use the method @jack9955 mentioned last page.
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No problem, I installed Super-Sume, the phone rebooted one time or two and now KingUser & adware is gone and SuperSU was installed. Awesome!! :good: :highfive: :fingers-crossed: :laugh:
I just ordered a Fire Phone off eBay so i'm still waiting to get my hands on it. I don't know what OS is on it, so I figured just to be on the safe side, it could have 4.6.4....as far as KingRoot goes.......do I install KingRoot, then go download Super-Sume, install that, then go remove KingRoot?
Hi,
Does anyone know if this phone can be fully UN-rooted so apps like Barclays Bank app and Pingit can work on it?
Supersu unroot doesn't work nor do Hide Root stuff.
Mine was pre-loaded with Eragon ROM by the Ebayer who I got it from which in general was a good thing.
In the meantime, I've put it back to stock.
Can anyone install Pingit app on this phone? (you don't need a Barclays account or anything... just try and install it and it detects root).
Thanks.
Hmm no replies to this one.
OK, can someone confirm to me whether the P8000 is FULLY unrooted when it's new? The hardware is great so I'm thinking of getting the Vowney but not if Elephone mobiles are rooted from the start.
I know it's all about rooting and putting custom ROMs but it's annoying when some apps you NEED (like banking) won't run on them.
Can someone who hasn't done anything to their P8000 check for me please? Just download the Barclays Pingit app and try to install it. If it installs, it's fully unrooted.
Thanks.
You can install the Stock Firmware with so Flashtool soul be unrooted then
Gesendet von meinem Elephone P8000 mit Tapatalk
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
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MikeJT said:
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
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Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
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Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
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Nope, I've literally just flashed it with the latest stock ROM (20151105). No virus in this one!
Barclays apps still think it's rooted.
Sorry for asking noob questions but Root doesn't survive Flashing does it?
Try checking with root checker app from playstore
Yeah I said in the previous post:
Root Checker says the same on my definitely UNROOTED LG G FLex 2 and on my Stock Rom P8000 which I've just flashed.
Root access is not properly installed on this device.
Barclays Bank app works fine on my Flex but root is detected on the P8000 saying it's rooted.
So is it possible to TOTALLY UN-ROOT the phone? UN-ROOT. Not Root. UN-ROOT.
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
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Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
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Interesting...
So, for example, in the xbin folder I have:
sugote
sugote-mksh
supolicy
daemonsu
BIN folder has:
superumount
There's no sbin folder.
You mean I should delete ANYTHING that has the letters SU in those folders?
When the P8000 is flashed with the stock rom using the FlashTool, what does it do? Does it blat EVERYTHING on the phone or does it leave something somewhere to indicate it's been rooted before?
If it does wipe EVERYTHING and it sets the phone back to how it would be when it's shipped from Elephone, it does indicate that there is some sort of ROOT (files or whatever) to make some apps complain.
Surely there is SOMEONE here who can tell me whether their P8000 is FULLY UNROOTED or not (by trying to install the Pingit app).
I'm almost a fan of buying these generic, no brand China phones cos they're ridiculously cheap and fast but if they're pre-rooted (in some form), they're not much use since you can't run certain apps on them (especially if no-one knows how to UNROOT them). The Elephone Vowney looks so desirable!
Go to system>xbin and see if su file is on your phone and try deleting just the file with the name su and no other files
Nope, no file called SU in there.
So, my question now is:
Eragon ROM WAS put on this phone.
I've now flashed it with stock ROM.
Should it now be UN-rooted? Or at least, as much as it was when it leaves the factory? (obviously it's not EXACTLY the same because the Stock ROM I flashed is much newer).
OR, are Elephone ALWAYS rooted (either half or fully... enough to trip up certain apps)?
I know that if you get phones like OnePlus One, which had a 'custom' ROM (CM), it was still fully un-rooted (ie you can use banking apps on it).
try simply unroot app
It always works for me
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pinpong.simplyunroot
Hehe I'm interested to see what happens here.
Root Checker says it's unrooted (or it says it's not properly rooted - which isn't necessarily the same.. although that's what it says on my Flex 2 which is DEFINITELY not rooted).
Barclays bank app says it's rooted.
I need to root the device to use the Simply Unroot app.
What are the chances this is going to work..... I know it's only £0.68 but.....
I'll give it a go when I get home!
Thanks.
Nope, Simply Unroot didn't work although I didn't have much hope.
What's the explanation for this kind of thing... where it's flashed with stock rom and apps can tell it's rooted (even Root Checker says it's unrooted).
Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
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Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
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MrBoingy said:
By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
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i will make an unroot flashable zip soon .
after barclays app and other bank apps will work
-i will inform you here , when it is ready-
I just wanted to put this info out there quickly, will come back later with greater detail. I had Fire Phone US unlocked 32 GB with OS 4.6.3, which automatically updated to 4.6.6 today. To my great relief, the device was not bricked (despite previous root).
My previous arrangement was that I had 4.6.3 rooted with Kingroot, used SuperSU me to switch to SuperSU, and purchased SuperSU Pro 2.46. I turned the Survival Mode feature on prior to the OTA update.
After the update to 4.6.6, I was no longer rooted. I ran Kingroot 4.65, which rooted successfully (followed immediately by SuperSU me) so now I am running Fire OS 4.6.6, rooted, with SuperSU 2.46. Once again, I have turned on survival mode.
Not sure if the SuperSU survival mode helped, but thought I would put it out there in case it was relevant to my success.
Play Store won't run for me at the moment, but I'm sure I can get it working. Other than that I'm good to go.
So Kingroot will safely root 4.6.6?
WishIKnewThisStuff said:
So Kingroot will safely root 4.6.6?
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Yes confirmed .
so actually when i use kingroot and its rooted. all i have to do is to install superuser and it will replace kinguser?
Phone geek wayne said:
so actually when i use kingroot and its rooted. all i have to do is to install superuser and it will replace kinguser?
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No, to replace kingroot's kinguser with superuser you should use the paid app Super-Sume Pro or follow the free directions at w0lfdroid.com.
I Finally Got Temporary Root On The AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (and yes it is SuperSU, bit it does require KingRoot)
I Did It
can you post the software info page with the build for verification of which device it's on?
Like you want the build number?
BTW here is how to do it
https://youtu.be/Xr_2LQimK9I
This is temporary root which means that once you reboot you're going to lose root... Sadly not much new...
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Meh, I know but it's better than nothing
Well if this is true it is new because it's on 5.1.1 and not 4.4.4. Going to give it a shot...
So I've tried twice now to root using Kingroot 4.8.0 on Android 5.1.1 and twice my phone has rebooted at the very end when I was trying to download SuperSUMe from the Playstore (did look like root was successful). Might have better luck if I factory reset my phone, but I'm not that interested in getting root.
I can verify that this indeed does provide a temp root on at&t note 4 v5.1.1
BUT! It causes the system to slow down and lag alot and the keyboard no longer works untill the phone is rebooted and when you reboot the samsung startup screen shows a padlock that says custom. So the guys at kingoroot have manged to find a small crack but it is to unstable to use at this time.
I did test out the root permissions on a few apps
1: es file explorer. (I was able to set rw permissions and move files from the internal to ext sd card and see root folders and files in the system)
2: lucky patcher (it was able to gain root and modify installed packages on the fly)
3: es task manager (i was able to acess the root features but changes did not stick)
My hope is maybe someone can learn from this and make the temp root more stable even if temporary (i kinda doubt it since gaining temp root seems to freak the system out causing glitches and stutters)
I obtain temporary root indeed the only I could achieve is, wipe bloatware and change font lol.... So far so good
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
Btw guys I rooted my note 4 on KingRoot v4.8.1, they haven't released this version on their website yet
And supersume pro probably won't work on this
I use the terminal emulator and a root script
DAKILLER29 said:
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
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There is a bounty regarding it, if they achieve completely root, 8,000 dollars are waiting for anyone achieving it
4.8.1 does stabalize things a little but i can guarantee just aboit that they are using a hole in the stock keyboard to obtain temp root i am going to experiment with non stock keyboards and see what happens from there. I also noticed that the phone gets hot when rooted
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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At the moment NO temp root is not stable enough to reliably run long enough to enable and keep enabled wifi hotspot unless your carrier has opened that option. Lucky for me wifi teathering is included in my plan with at&t
Any way to run Xposed with this?
So is it available for download somewhere? Or will it be soon?
terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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After delete all the bloatware it allow me to use Hotspot without need foxfi but I'm in Verizon so I couldn't tell you if it applies the same in at&t but I'm sure one of the program installed is the one that blocks or prevents Hotspot to work properly
I used Kingroot 4.8.1 (after you install 4.8.0 and open the app it tells you to update it) on my N910A and it got to 25% and failed? Happened a few times