Root without root issue. - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi peeps, looked at rooting my nice new G3 and went in for the kill with towel root [emoji16] only to find out didn't support my version. Decided to go with purpledrake (not got there yet) found a couple of apps not working because of root which root checker says I don't have. My question is do I need to root now regardless even if only to unroot? To get things back to normal?

stigslim said:
Hi peeps, looked at rooting my nice new G3 and went in for the kill with towel root [emoji16] only to find out didn't support my version. Decided to go with purpledrake (not got there yet) found a couple of apps not working because of root which root checker says I don't have. My question is do I need to root now regardless even if only to unroot? To get things back to normal?
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After rooting, did you install SuperSU?
Also, there's StumpRoot as a 3rd option.

That's just it. Towel root told me my phone wasn't supported and root checker says I don't have root, yet the app in question says I do so super user seems a bit pointless.

stigslim said:
That's just it. Towel root told me my phone wasn't supported and root checker says I don't have root, yet the app in question says I do so super user seems a bit pointless.
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SuperSU is needed after you root to give apps root access. Try to install it, if it works, you're rooted and you can go along with your rooted apps.
Otherwise, try StumpRoot (Towel and Purple's didn't support my version either), install SuperSU and enjoy your root apps!

Tried to install it with no luck. Seems something's gone wrong somewhere.
Says I need to manually 're root of I just upgraded to android 4.3. As it can't install su binaries.
Sent from my LG-D855

stigslim said:
Tried to install it with no luck. Seems something's gone wrong somewhere.
Says I need to manually 're root of I just upgraded to android 4.3. As it can't install su binaries.
Sent from my LG-D855
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Time to give StumpRoot a shot then.

Yeah I think your right. The only issue left is the app I want to use fails when rooted and the root cloak module/app doesn't currently support it [emoji20]
Edit:
Well i tried stump root and got nowhere [emoji20] looking like purple is my only way forward. And if i want to use that particular app then root, unroot is the only way forward. [emoji45]

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[Q] Titanium Backup says no root

So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
dsuppa said:
So I unlocked, rooted and flashed 4.0.4 last night (for the first time) and I installed Titanium Backup, but it says that it doesnt have root access, is it possible that I could have unlocked and flashed without rooting properly? I have the SuperUser app installed but no apps show in the list....
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YOU LOST ROOT WHEN YOU WENT UP TO IT
HAPPENED TO ME TOO. I WAS FLUSTERED FOR A FEW DAYS BECAUSE MY SWISS ARMY KNIFE TOOL WASNT READY FOR RE ROOTING 4.0.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
THATLL HELP YOU QUICKLY GET ROOT BACK FOR 4.0.4 IN UNDER 5 MINS...
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
thanks i'll have to give that a try when I get home, this isnt what I originally used to root/unlock is that ok? I used this one
Sorry for the caps. Left a website where I always post with em on
But easiest way to know you lost root is to try and update superuser. If it says failed...
mudferret said:
Try force stopping TiBU and then open it again; sometimes it gets confused.
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Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
dsuppa said:
Nope, seems I no longer have root access, I downloaded root checker from the app store and it says no root access on the phone.
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Every OTA update disables root access. You need to re-root after every OTA update...

[Q] Root for sm-t217s running the new 4.4.2 kitkat update?

Hello my names Aaron, I rooted my galaxy tab 3 (sm-t217s) a little bit ago then unrooted just because my wifi wasnt turning on.. I had to do a stock restore through odin to get it all working again. When I did that I got the new kitkat update and gladly updated it. Now again though I want to root it so I can again do all the great things you can do with rooting!
So my questions are:
Can I root it running 4.4.2 the same way I did when I was running 4.2.2? Will it brick it if I just put on a custom recovery the same way as before and let that install superSU?
I would just like to know and if not then is there another way currently to root it?
I couldnt find anything about it that is why I am posting about it.. must not be a very common tablet?
Anyways thanks for your time and help!
WhiteRage said:
Hello my names Aaron, I rooted my galaxy tab 3 (sm-t217s) a little bit ago then unrooted just because my wifi wasnt turning on.. I had to do a stock restore through odin to get it all working again. When I did that I got the new kitkat update and gladly updated it. Now again though I want to root it so I can again do all the great things you can do with rooting!
So my questions are:
Can I root it running 4.4.2 the same way I did when I was running 4.2.2? Will it brick it if I just put on a custom recovery the same way as before and let that install superSU?
I would just like to know and if not then is there another way currently to root it?
I couldnt find anything about it that is why I am posting about it.. must not be a very common tablet?
Anyways thanks for your time and help!
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Either use towelroot to root from within android or you can still flash twrp from Odin and root that way. Twrp may set warranty bit, mine was was already tripped so I can't say dor sure if it does.
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I used towel root on4.4.2 update worked great, and yes twrp does set set warrenty bit
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I used towelroot on my tablet, it does what it has to do. Does not reboot, but when I use Root Checker it says that I do not have root.....any suggestions?
I was rooted with towel root fine under the June 2014 update to 4.4.2, but I mistakenly took the update to NH4 while rooted. My device seems to be fine, but I lost root and Towel root will not seem to root me again, no way, no how. My warranty bit is clean, and I don't want to trip it, but I'd love to have root back. Is there anyything I can do on NH4 from within Android to get root back? TIA
How did you do an unroot through Odin and which version of Towelroot did you use to root it again? I have the same tablet.
I have SM-T217S running Kitkay 4.4.2. I've tried almost every root app there is (Kingo, Towel, ect.). They all say my device isn't compatible. And when I go to update under settings, it says that my device is running unauthorized software and that I need to use Samsung kies to flash. But it has no root & no custom software, everything is normal. I have tried using computer to root but still nothing. What could I do to fix it?

[Q] Rooted but not rooted

Hello. I usually don't have to post in forums because someone else had already jag my problem, but I was very surprised not to find this one. I rooted my g3 sprint model with stump, but when I installed superSU it said that it could not find or install the binaries on my device. I downloaded a root checker, but despite stump's assurance that my device is rooted, the checker says otherwise. If it matters, stump did say that it had to root using brute force. I'm not sure what to do to get rooted. Purpledrake doesn't work with the sprint model, and as far as I know towelroot does not either. Thanks for the help, guys.
jerronimo3000 said:
Hello. I usually don't have to post in forums because someone else had already jag my problem, but I was very surprised not to find this one. I rooted my g3 sprint model with stump, but when I installed superSU it said that it could not find or install the binaries on my device. I downloaded a root checker, but despite stump's assurance that my device is rooted, the checker says otherwise. If it matters, stump did say that it had to root using brute force. I'm not sure what to do to get rooted. Purpledrake doesn't work with the sprint model, and as far as I know towelroot does not either. Thanks for the help, guys.
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Download Flashify, find the SuperSU latest zip file, flash it with Flashify. See if that works.
When I launch flashify it informs me that I do not have root access and closes.

[Q] lg g3 beat d722k lollipop root?

Anyone successful rooted g3s(beat) d722k lollipop (android 5.0)?
Temproot
Hi, i used LG One Click root and King root. Both work but when you reboot your device, the root access is removed. It might help but .............
For ino, i have a LG G3S D722K 5.0.2
New Method
Hi. Found that link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3129197
Seems it can be done manually, i'm going to try it and hope it works.
Kingroot
In case anyone still can't find a solution. I found only Kingroot would work with my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=12586
I previously used purpledrake fine on kitkat, but i tried that, lg oneclick, towel root and another one and couldn't find anything to give me a perm root.
The only downside is you need to use Kinguser, instead on superSU or superuser. I know there is a workaround that just didn't work for me.
Now I just have an Xposed incompatibility issue to look into...
dirtm said:
In case anyone still can't find a solution. I found only Kingroot would work with my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=12586
I previously used purpledrake fine on kitkat, but i tried that, lg oneclick, towel root and another one and couldn't find anything to give me a perm root.
The only downside is you need to use Kinguser, instead on superSU or superuser. I know there is a workaround that just didn't work for me.
Now I just have an Xposed incompatibility issue to look into...
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My Device : LG D722 Running Android 5.0.2
Kingroot worked for me. Installed APK, run it... allowed to root, banggggg... rooted !!!
as simple as it, we don't even need a pc to do that ? man, thats cool
Just to checked root access after a restart, it was successfully rooted
Thanks
GaelSouris said:
Hi, i used LG One Click root and King root. Both work but when you reboot your device, the root access is removed. It might help but .............
For ino, i have a LG G3S D722K 5.0.2
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the same problem...
Issue with lg g3 beat with lolip 5.0.2
Hello, i rooted with LG One Click (http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/lg-g3s-beat-d722-thread-t3110048). Root Checker says:
ROOT ACCESS: Device rooted
SUPER USER: SU FOUND
BUSY BOX: Busy box not installed
and path information, i guess for su
The issue is i can't do nothing else:
Installed supersu but don't update binaries.
And any app that ask for root access do not have it.
Preciate some help (newbi in rooting and so...).
Thank you

FULLY unroot

Hi,
Does anyone know if this phone can be fully UN-rooted so apps like Barclays Bank app and Pingit can work on it?
Supersu unroot doesn't work nor do Hide Root stuff.
Mine was pre-loaded with Eragon ROM by the Ebayer who I got it from which in general was a good thing.
In the meantime, I've put it back to stock.
Can anyone install Pingit app on this phone? (you don't need a Barclays account or anything... just try and install it and it detects root).
Thanks.
Hmm no replies to this one.
OK, can someone confirm to me whether the P8000 is FULLY unrooted when it's new? The hardware is great so I'm thinking of getting the Vowney but not if Elephone mobiles are rooted from the start.
I know it's all about rooting and putting custom ROMs but it's annoying when some apps you NEED (like banking) won't run on them.
Can someone who hasn't done anything to their P8000 check for me please? Just download the Barclays Pingit app and try to install it. If it installs, it's fully unrooted.
Thanks.
You can install the Stock Firmware with so Flashtool soul be unrooted then
Gesendet von meinem Elephone P8000 mit Tapatalk
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
Sent from my U65GT using Tapatalk
MikeJT said:
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
Sent from my U65GT using Tapatalk
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Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
MrBoingy said:
Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
bjbirch said:
Do you have SuperSU installed?
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Nope, I've literally just flashed it with the latest stock ROM (20151105). No virus in this one!
Barclays apps still think it's rooted.
Sorry for asking noob questions but Root doesn't survive Flashing does it?
Try checking with root checker app from playstore
Yeah I said in the previous post:
Root Checker says the same on my definitely UNROOTED LG G FLex 2 and on my Stock Rom P8000 which I've just flashed.
Root access is not properly installed on this device.
Barclays Bank app works fine on my Flex but root is detected on the P8000 saying it's rooted.
So is it possible to TOTALLY UN-ROOT the phone? UN-ROOT. Not Root. UN-ROOT.
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
bjbirch said:
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
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Interesting...
So, for example, in the xbin folder I have:
sugote
sugote-mksh
supolicy
daemonsu
BIN folder has:
superumount
There's no sbin folder.
You mean I should delete ANYTHING that has the letters SU in those folders?
When the P8000 is flashed with the stock rom using the FlashTool, what does it do? Does it blat EVERYTHING on the phone or does it leave something somewhere to indicate it's been rooted before?
If it does wipe EVERYTHING and it sets the phone back to how it would be when it's shipped from Elephone, it does indicate that there is some sort of ROOT (files or whatever) to make some apps complain.
Surely there is SOMEONE here who can tell me whether their P8000 is FULLY UNROOTED or not (by trying to install the Pingit app).
I'm almost a fan of buying these generic, no brand China phones cos they're ridiculously cheap and fast but if they're pre-rooted (in some form), they're not much use since you can't run certain apps on them (especially if no-one knows how to UNROOT them). The Elephone Vowney looks so desirable!
Go to system>xbin and see if su file is on your phone and try deleting just the file with the name su and no other files
Nope, no file called SU in there.
So, my question now is:
Eragon ROM WAS put on this phone.
I've now flashed it with stock ROM.
Should it now be UN-rooted? Or at least, as much as it was when it leaves the factory? (obviously it's not EXACTLY the same because the Stock ROM I flashed is much newer).
OR, are Elephone ALWAYS rooted (either half or fully... enough to trip up certain apps)?
I know that if you get phones like OnePlus One, which had a 'custom' ROM (CM), it was still fully un-rooted (ie you can use banking apps on it).
try simply unroot app
It always works for me
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pinpong.simplyunroot
Hehe I'm interested to see what happens here.
Root Checker says it's unrooted (or it says it's not properly rooted - which isn't necessarily the same.. although that's what it says on my Flex 2 which is DEFINITELY not rooted).
Barclays bank app says it's rooted.
I need to root the device to use the Simply Unroot app.
What are the chances this is going to work..... I know it's only £0.68 but.....
I'll give it a go when I get home!
Thanks.
Nope, Simply Unroot didn't work although I didn't have much hope.
What's the explanation for this kind of thing... where it's flashed with stock rom and apps can tell it's rooted (even Root Checker says it's unrooted).
Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
bjbirch said:
Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
bjbirch said:
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
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MrBoingy said:
By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
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i will make an unroot flashable zip soon .
after barclays app and other bank apps will work
-i will inform you here , when it is ready-

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