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I love it, and all, but sometimes it's search of similar threads ranges too far.
Ex:
I'm in the ATT SGSII forums, and I want to ask a question relevant to the phone. Of course, the similar threads pop up and I look through them, but many of the threads are about different phones. Sometimes this may come in handy sure, but I think it might be better to try and keep it in the paticular phone section, if at all possible.
Course, that's determined by the vBulletin plugin, huh? Does it have that capability? Because if so, it could help the noobs (such as myself) find everything easier.
Bump, does anyone agree with this, or is it just me?
demon9206 said:
Sometimes this may come in handy sure
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I think you've answered your own question there really.
Maybe it would make sense to have similar questions in the device category come first in the list, and then have other results below. I think you do really need all the results though as there will be a lot of times when the device is irrelevant.
Well in my 2-3 weeks of owning an android device its always been phone-specific. I don't doubt there are questions that are android in general, it just seems that it'd be more helpful showing results in the phones category first
Yea, I can see your point, but I think it's more of a 50/50 situation....some of the time it does help to see other threads from other forums, as many things aren't device specific.
Hi,
Love XDA, but can we get a specific forum for Telus T989 users? There are two versions of this phone out to the masses and it's getting confusing for roots, roms and other with only a T-Mobile forum.
If others agree, please voice your support for this idea.
Thanks,
Dennis
mindracer said:
Hi,
Love XDA, but can we get a specific forum for Telus T989 users? There are two versions of this phone out to the masses and it's getting confusing for roots, roms and other with only a T-Mobile forum.
If others agree, please voice your support for this idea.
Thanks,
Dennis
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AllGamer has already stated beforehand that because the hardware is exactly the same, there is not much point in opening another forum for the Telus variant. Rooting is exactly the same, except for getting into Download Mode and ROMs work on both phones.
It's just as if you would make a separate forum for each Motorola Atrix or Galaxy Nexus.
eggxactly!
my bad, u may delete this thread
XDA is a great source of information for all phones. In the past there were sometimes seperate forums for different versions of the same phone. I understand they are all Nexus phones however the issues for Verizon Nexus owners don't necessarily occur with people using a European Nexus and vice versa. There are many things in common but I really wish there had been a Verizon Nexus forum as welll. I should have posted this 6 months ago.
I'd love to be able to go to the Verizon thread and instantly see when there was information about firmware updates, fixes for mic issues, fixes for radio issues, tweaks specific to the Verizon Nexus...
Maybe if enough of you requested it it might happen... I know on the sgs2 forum they split the development sub into two but that was because a couple of devs who were also moderators liked to put themselves on a pedestal and look down from above
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It'd be a plus for sure but the search works pretty well on this forum. Ultimately I can live without a separate forum.
I think it would be a great sub forum within Galaxy Nexus forum, IF it actually contained useful information. Lots of trolls and rumor mills out there with nothing but speculation. If it were created and filled with garbage, than there is no point.
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boe said:
XDA is a great source of information for all phones. In the past there were sometimes seperate forums for different versions of the same phone. I understand they are all Nexus phones however the issues for Verizon Nexus owners don't necessarily occur with people using a European Nexus and vice versa. There are many things in common but I really wish there had been a Verizon Nexus forum as welll. I should have posted this 6 months ago.
I'd love to be able to go to the Verizon thread and instantly see when there was information about firmware updates, fixes for mic issues, fixes for radio issues, tweaks specific to the Verizon Nexus...
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Its not needed for General.
And considering there are no firmware updates, radio fixes, mic fixes, or Verizon specific tweaks, it would be a dead one if it did exist.
PS- Mic problem doesn't appear to be on the phone end.
I like'r the way it is now. :good:
As long as the VZW development is separate, I'm fine.
I like the general meeting ground for all us GNex owners.
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All that matters is separate development forums. There's way too much overlap in the general discussion between device that it'd be a waste to separate them and have a ton of duplicate posts.
People with CDMA phones would just post everything in their forum and GSM would do the same. We'd then have to move/merge threads constantly instead of just allowing the few carrier-specific threads to float around in the same forum.
crachel said:
People with CDMA phones would just post everything in their forum and GSM would do the same. We'd then have to move/merge threads constantly instead of just allowing the few carrier-specific threads to float around in the same forum.
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I agree that a separate forum would be much worse than what exists today, but that doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. I got my Gnex on July 3, so I'm relatively new, and have been doing a A LOT of reading. The biggest problem I see with regard to having a common forum for general discussion is that more often than not, people don't indicate whether they're referring to the CDMA model or the GSM model. Sometimes this can be gleaned from the discussion if there's mention of LTE or HSPA or possibly a carrier, but it's rarely stated clearly.
UncleMike said:
I agree that a separate forum would be much worse than what exists today, but that doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. I got my Gnex on July 3, so I'm relatively new, and have been doing a A LOT of reading. The biggest problem I see with regard to having a common forum for general discussion is that more often than not, people don't indicate whether they're referring to the CDMA model or the GSM model. Sometimes this can be gleaned from the discussion if there's mention of LTE or HSPA or possibly a carrier, but it's rarely stated clearly.
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Yeah it is pretty frustrating whey there is a thread about radio signal issues and someone chimes in they don't have that problem - OK - are you on Verizon? No, I'm on a GSM nexus - than that isn't an apples to apples comparison.
Whine whine whine
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I was wondering if anyone could tell me the differences between the SGH-T889 (T-Mobile USA Version) and the Unlocked International versions, GT-N7100 and GT-N7105? I'm not really sure (other than the obvious about one being unlocked and able to use with any carrier and one being specific to T-Mobile) what the difference is between the three and benefits of one over the other? I'm in the USA, so I was wanting to know which would be best for USA compatibility. Thanks!
yeah this is confsing me as well. whats the difference between 7100, 7010 etc
best,
Sir no reason to double post threads, and questions belong in the Q&A section. Thank You and moved.
And Sir, maybe this can help, Google took me HERE
bigjoe2675 said:
Sir no reason to double post threads, and questions belong in the Q&A section. Thank You and moved.
And Sir, maybe this can help, Google took me HERE
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No, I had already found that. I want to know specifics with apps pre-installed, bands availability, etc. Thanks, though!
mlb107 said:
No, I had already found that. I want to know specifics with apps pre-installed, bands availability, etc. Thanks, though!
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all the answers are on google. pdadb.net is a good place to see the differences. the only hardware differences are the radios. so check out that site.
na7q said:
all the answers are on google. pdadb.net is a good place to see the differences. the only hardware differences are the radios. so check out that site.
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Thanks! Hadn't come across that site in my multiple searches. Just what I was looking for!
Now that the T-Mobile SGS3 has 2 different variants, could we possibly make a SGH-T999 forum aside from all the other variants? I believe it might help with clutter and potential user issues because of flashing SGS3 LTE modems on non-LTE or T999V, etc devices.
Just a request.
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mike.r.olson said:
Now that the T-Mobile SGS3 has 2 different variants, could we possibly make a SGH-T999 forum aside from all the other variants? I believe it might help with clutter and potential user issues because of flashing SGS3 LTE modems on non-LTE or T999V, etc devices.
Just a request.
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I think you forgot about the main problem here, besides all the variants you mentioned
there are the all those AOKP/AOSP/CM and ported roms which already have their own
thread "T-Mobile S III Original Android Develoment" where these roms above belong.
Now about 50% of the "Tmobile Galaxy S III Android Development" thread is full of the AOKP/AOSP/CM
roms instead of only having the Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean 4.11/4.1.2 based stock or custom roms in it.
This causes a lot of confusion for many people in these threads and sometimes it's difficult to even tell which is which
unless the OP makes it very clear in his opening post stating that "This is a AOKP Rom" or even better letting people
know that "This is NOT a Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean based rom" so no one would flash it by error.
I think everything is as it should be to be honest. The 3 models of the T999, are virtually identical, and ROMS and Recoveries and kernels are pretty much compatible across the board. The only things thay should be avoided are modems and full firmwares.
As far as the CM and AOKP type ROMs in the development area, many probably do belong there. As far as I am aware tge original development forum is for anything built from source or from scratch.
Im betting most of the roms in question were simply modified in the exact same sense that the TouchWiz roms have been.
In the end its up to the mods, but I think for now the current layout is fine, and splitting it up even more woukd only cause more work and more problems. Id bet that everyone would still wind up right here for everything they need.
Thats just how I see it anyway.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I think everything is as it should be to be honest. The 3 models of the T999, are virtually identical, and ROMS and Recoveries and kernels are pretty much compatible across the board. The only things thay should be avoided are modems and full firmwares.
As far as the CM and AOKP type ROMs in the development area, many probably do belong there. As far as I am aware tge original development forum is for anything built from source or from scratch.
Im betting most of the roms in question were simply modified in the exact same sense that the TouchWiz roms have been.
In the end its up to the mods, but I think for now the current layout is fine, and splitting it up even more woukd only cause more work and more problems. Id bet that everyone would still wind up right here for everything they need.
Thats just how I see it anyway.
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I forgot to add that the problem (in my personal opinion) which I described is not exclusive to this this Tmobile
Galaxy T999 S3 forum, but the same problem also exists in the new Tmobile Galaxy M919 S4 forum too.
I am surprised that none of the moderators caught on to it yet. I know from experience that the moderators
here are not too kind about anyone starting new threads in the wrong location or forum...
Dont take them as being unkind. They are simply doing their job and enforcing the rules.
I have worked with some of them, and trust me, they can be some if the most helpful and knowledgeable people on here. There are very good reasons behind each one getting selected to become a mod. (And being an a$$ to folks is not one of the reasons).
That said, I did want to conceed one point. Though I do believe most of the threads in development do beling there, it does get cluttered pretty easily. For those who have been around for a while its probably not so bad, but to someone new to the forum, I can see how it could become difficult to find something that fits specific needs. I could see splitting that into two or three sub forums as helpful (one for stock based and one or two for CM and AOKP types). It could keep things a little cleaner that way.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Dont take them as being unkind. They are simply doing their job and enforcing the rules.
I have worked with some of them, and trust me, they can be some if the most helpful and knowledgeable people on here. There are very good reasons behind each one getting selected to become a mod. (And being an a$$ to folks is not one of the reasons).
That said, I did want to conceed one point. Though I do believe most of the threads in development do beling there, it does get cluttered pretty easily. For those who have been around for a while its probably not so bad, but to someone new to the forum, I can see how it could become difficult to find something that fits specific needs. I could see splitting that into two or three sub forums as helpful (one for stock based and one or two for CM and AOKP types). It could keep things a little cleaner that way.
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I meant no disrespect to any of the moderators, but I've been caught making new threads where they didn't belong a couple times myself.
A long time ago when I first started here in xda I made a new thread in the Samsung AT&T Captivate forum and
I was promptly shown the exit door.
I hellraised/ported some rom successfully, tested it to be sure it worked properly then created a new thread in the same
forum as all the Samsung Touchwiz Captivate custom and stock roms were located and one of the moderators promptly
closed the thread as he should have.
At the time I did not think I done anything wrong and could not fully understand the reason why my thread was closed.
Now I see the reason and it's a very good reason, I just hope that one of these days soon there will be some kind
of segregation of the touchwiz custom roms and ported and aokp/aosp/cm roms in these xda forums and threads.
I really believe that about one third of all the issues, problems and errors a lot of new users here are having have
to do with flashing these cm/aokp/aosp roms not knowing that these roms don't come with all the features and the
bells and whistles which the touchwiz roms have, on top of that, issues which the the devs have yet to resolve.
Not to mention, especially here in the S3 Tmobile forum flashing those roms means no wifi calling at all.
Another example, have you ever seen or heard about an "error 7" which was not the result of someone
flashing one of those roms then trying to flash back to a Samsung Touchwiz rom?
New or fairly new users here when scrolling thru the Samsung touchwiz S3 custom roms thread are not aware of these things
and without really knowing what they are doing they end up flashing one of those roms thinking it's just another custom rom.
If those roms were in their own forums it would make everything here in xda go a lot smoother and easier not only for the new
users but for everyone else including the developers.
Misterjunky said:
I think you forgot about the main problem here, besides all the variants you mentioned
there are the all those AOKP/AOSP/CM and ported roms which already have their own
thread "T-Mobile S III Original Android Develoment" where these roms above belong.
Now about 50% of the "Tmobile Galaxy S III Android Development" thread is full of the AOKP/AOSP/CM
roms instead of only having the Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean 4.11/4.1.2 based stock or custom roms in it.
This causes a lot of confusion for many people in these threads and sometimes it's difficult to even tell which is which
unless the OP makes it very clear in his opening post stating that "This is a AOKP Rom" or even better letting people
know that "This is NOT a Samsung Touchwiz Jellybean based rom" so no one would flash it by error.
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Regular development is NOT only Touchwiz ROMs. Original Development is only for ROMs where the actual poster is the developer that wrote 1000's of lines of code or part of the team that did. ALL AOSP, CM, AOKP, MIUI, PA clones go in regular development.
And to the OP as long as the ROMs are compatible and do not cause hard bricks then there is no reason for separate sections.
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Regular development is NOT only Touchwiz ROMs. Original Development is only for ROMs where the actual poster is the developer that wrote 1000's of lines of code or part of the team that did. ALL AOSP, CM, AOKP, MIUI, PA clones go in regular development.
And to the OP as long as the ROMs are compatible and do not cause hard bricks then there is no reason for separate sections.
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No wonder I started seeing a lot of roms that were posted in Original Android Development moved to Android development. It was kinda shock for me...
Only thing for people with the new T999L not flashing a T999 firmware, radio, odin. Is to make the threads known that is not for them.
And believe me we are going to see a lot of new threads people having problems. If they want to go back to odin stock or flashing the wrong firmware. Even if the threads are indicating that are not compatible they will still do it..... Half the people wont read and understand what their doing before doing it. They will only know that they have a Tmobile GS3 and that it.
gypsy214 said:
No wonder I started seeing a lot of roms that were posted in Original Android Development moved to Android development. It was kinda shock for me...
Only thing for people with the new T999L not flashing a T999 firmware, radio, odin. Is to make the threads known that is not for them.
And believe me we are going to see a lot of new threads people having problems. If they want to go back to odin stock or flashing the wrong firmware. Even if the threads are indicating that are not compatible they will still do it..... Half the people wont read and understand what their doing before doing it. They will only know that they have a Tmobile GS3 and that it.
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You mean like all the CDMA users flashing international ROMs in spite of the capital letter warning in both sticky sections? This is a developers' forum and not a support site. We cannot idiot-proof every section or the whole site will be convoluted with hundreds of subforums in which most will still not read. Most sites only have one forum per device. This site is very well organized compared to those. Add an L onto another subsection and most will still not read. We have many devices on XDA that work just like this, compatible ROMs and they have to flash correct modem and firmware.
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You mean like all the CDMA users flashing international ROMs in spite of the capital letter warning in both sticky sections? This is a developers' forum and not a support site. We cannot idiot-proof every section or the whole site will be convoluted with hundreds of subforums in which most will still not read. Most sites only have one forum per device. This site is very well organized compared to those. Add an L onto another subsection and most will still not read. We have many devices on XDA that work just like this, compatible ROMs and they have to flash correct modem and firmware.
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Completely 100% agree. We already hold the hand of these people more then needed. This isn't a support site where people come to ask for help, its a dev forum but no one treats it that way anymore. The forum is laid out very very well. I've been on many android sites and get fed up by the layout quickly, and lack of care for users and such.
T-Mobile SGS III
DocHoliday77 said:
I think everything is as it should be to be honest. The 3 models of the T999, are virtually identical, and ROMS and Recoveries and kernels are pretty much compatible across the board. The only things thay should be avoided are modems and full firmwares.
As far as the CM and AOKP type ROMs in the development area, many probably do belong there. As far as I am aware tge original development forum is for anything built from source or from scratch.
Im betting most of the roms in question were simply modified in the exact same sense that the TouchWiz roms have been.
In the end its up to the mods, but I think for now the current layout is fine, and splitting it up even more woukd only cause more work and more problems. Id bet that everyone would still wind up right here for everything they need.
Thats just how I see it anyway.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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DocHoliday77 said:
Dont take them as being unkind. They are simply doing their job and enforcing the rules.
I have worked with some of them, and trust me, they can be some if the most helpful and knowledgeable people on here. There are very good reasons behind each one getting selected to become a mod. (And being an a$$ to folks is not one of the reasons).
That said, I did want to conceed one point. Though I do believe most of the threads in development do beling there, it does get cluttered pretty easily. For those who have been around for a while its probably not so bad, but to someone new to the forum, I can see how it could become difficult to find something that fits specific needs. I could see splitting that into two or three sub forums as helpful (one for stock based and one or two for CM and AOKP types). It could keep things a little cleaner that way.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
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kennyglass123 said:
You mean like all the CDMA users flashing international ROMs in spite of the capital letter warning in both sticky sections? This is a developers' forum and not a support site. We cannot idiot-proof every section or the whole site will be convoluted with hundreds of subforums in which most will still not read. Most sites only have one forum per device. This site is very well organized compared to those. Add an L onto another subsection and most will still not read. We have many devices on XDA that work just like this, compatible ROMs and they have to flash correct modem and firmware.
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All of these :good: