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All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
Alpione said:
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for doing this, i too have and iphone 4, can you please tell me compared to the 4, how loud and clear is the speaker compared to the iphone 4? Thanks!
Alpione said:
All,
So this is my first foray into the Android world, coming from an iPhone 4 that I liked but have been bored with for quite some time.
First impressions are mostly positive. The phone is obviously built well and sits in the hand fine despite its large size. The screen is great - more than enough brightness, extremely crisp text and great colors. The thing is extremely fast - pretty much no lag that I can find, even when I turn on ECO mode. I just got it this afternoon and used it with the charge it had from the box, so I can't comment fully on battery life yet. But it seems to be power hungry so far, though that was doing a lot of initial syncing and keeping the screen on a good bit.
Camera, as several reviews said, is average at best.
If you have any questions about it, let me know and I'll give my findings. I do have a couple of issues, though:
1. The phone gets quite warm, even after the mystery update. And I'm talking about just surfing the net and downloading apps - no games or anything intensive at all. If you try to turn the display up past 80 or 90%, you get an alert saying "Unable to further brighten due to temperature increase. Try again later." While it's plenty bright at 50%, this is completely unacceptable. If they don't do something about that quickly, I'm probably returning it.
2. I can't find a way to disable LTE. I'm getting 25-30mbit down here in north Atlanta, but I won't need that a lot of the time. I'd prefer to put it on HSPA+ to save battery (and, presumably, keep the thing cool.)
3. Voice Dial stinks. It "gets" what I'm asking for through my Motorola Roadster 2 speakerphone about 20% of the time. This worked 90% of the time with my iPhone. Not sure if there's a better dialer, or if this will improve with Jelly Bean.
Any input appreciated. I'll probably root it tonight or tomorrow, so if anyone needs anything (safe) for bootloader purposes just let me know.
-A
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Thanks for the update. I was planning on picking one up tomorrow, but there seems to be more overwhelming negatives than positives from those that got theirs early. I think Google may have really dropped the ball on anointing LG as their official hardware vendor for the Nexus 4. There seems to be widespread overheating issues with the Nexus 4 which shares the exact same hardware as the Optimus G, sans LTE of course. Cause for concern of the reliability of the internal components as well as the glass back having cracked in 2 review units is pretty disheartening, think I'm going to hold off for now.
1. OG has auto bright limit. Proportionately with temp, phone apply bright limit. It is not a hardware trouble.
If your phone is too hot, return it.
2. Try *147359# at dial. It may show popup menu.
So far no problems, one thing is annoying - notification LED is on the power button, can't really see it, also doesn't stay on, just blinks once, kinda dumb.
So I really am liking this phone. Its not perfect, but its incredibly fast, has a great screen, and has some good customization possibilities.
Going to try Eco mode tomorrow to see how it performs and compare battery life. Seen some reviews that say it nearly doubles battery life, which would make it quite good.
The code mentioned above gave me an error, so I'm still looking for a way to turn off 4G.
As for the heat, I got that message in the parking lot at after I got it and again when it was plugged in, but its cool now on the couch.
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I've had no issues with the temp on mine as of now. But then again I set my brightness at 63%. My lite blinks more then once but it only blinks I think like every 30 seconds or so. I'm still watching that I could be wrong. Going to to a you tube review on this tomorrow. I will post it here and on the at&t optimus g forum as well. So far I'm loving this phone.
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I just switched from iphone 4 to this too and I gotta say it feels ridiculous looking at how small the iphone 4 screen is now after getting used to this.
For me the biggest complaints are the camera. I really don't like the quality and the other is the width. I can't get used to holding it. This is probably just a personal problem but it's feels too wide for me.
Other than that it's a great phone. Very fast sans project butter.
Oh n I don't think I can go back to iphone
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Agreed. The camera is average.
Back on the heat thing. For whatever reason, I haven't had any more heat problems since the first couple of days. No issues.
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Further overall impression after several days of use:
1. Battery life is so-so. Getting through a whole day is a 50/50 proposition, which is a significant drop from my old iPhone 4.
2. Camera, as mentioned, is mediocre.
3. Speed is still great.
4. Screen is still great.
5. Sound is pretty good, but not as good as iPhone 4. Signal from the headphone jack is a bit quieter than i4.
6. Internal speaker is kind of tinny and weak.
7. Voice calls over ear piece are plenty loud and sound good.
I really want to like this phone, but I'm coming up with some limitations. We'll see what happens with the development, which could help #1 and that's my biggest concern.
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I personally like the camera. Better then my sg3
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All I can say High Quality phone. And the software is sooo smooth
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Yeah, in liking it and will probably keep it. Just being very particular.
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Being "very particular" is good in my book. Thanks to everyone on this thread. I hope to see a lot more join in.
On the heat issue, based on my experience with my DInc...
Charging really heats the battery, so doing anything will lead towards overheating.
Holding it in your hand (the more skin contact the worse) or laying it on it's back (worse on a soft surface) prevents heat from escaping.
Releasing heat (IMO) is best done screen down, propped up against something, so that the phone is barely touching any surface. (Alternatively, lay it screen up on a cold hard surface, and move it periodically... contradicting my previous point.)
I'm itching to upgrade, but I'm waiting to see what's what. The LGOG is the current point of reference for all other droids out there. So I'm really hoping to hear many good things (esp. root and unlocked bootloader). But I also really want to hear all of the nitpicking details, because I expect "perfection" from everything. [OT] Yes, I am disappointed a lot of the time. After all, I'm using Microsoft at work and home. [/OT]
For the LED thing, do any market apps work on this?
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After a week
After owning this phone for about a week and using the Note 2, Galaxy s3, and the One X+ for a bit, I think this is the best phone out there as far as fluidity goes, and its not even on jelly bean. I wish I can rip off the camera on One X+ and glue it on the optimus G but oh well.
If you're holding out because its not perfect, you're right its not. But you'll be hard pressed to find a phone besting this in the 4.7" form factor for a while. Now if you want to go to a phablet, I would suggest you to try the Note 2 for a bit, but you have to make sure you don't wear skinny jeans, have big hands, are proud of yourself (people look at you when you hold it up to your head) or not scared of face cancer (it warms up your face like nothing when talking for a while). But it's a real great phone, I wish there was a Note 2 mini with the same specs.
Of course, there is the Nexus 4, which I got to play with once, for like 5 minutes, and that was awesome. Sadly, you know all about what it's missing, and personally, I thought that between Jelly Bean 4.2 and no microD or LTE, I would go sans Jelly Bean 4.2. I can live with Jelly bean 4.1.
I dropped my screen brightness about 5% each day till i got used to it and now my optimus G lasts longer and I have no problem looking at a < 40% screen brightness indoors. =/ It helps with the heat.. actually I don't feel much heat anymore either and I still dont use the eco mode. It would be nice if it could automatically use eco for less intensive things and then switch to full for games, but it seems to just stay at eco the whole time.
Hope this helps anyone being on the fence. Oh and I use atnt
I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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I actually prefer my optimus g over my nexus. Better battery life. Plus I scores better on benchmarks.
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Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
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Funny how that is even possible when internally it's identical?
A lot of people really like this phone. Wondering how it compares to the SG3 though?
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They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
dbgeek said:
They aren't identical. From an operation perspective they have different OS and different radio.
Seems like JB for phones isn't "fully baked" (or at least not for these LG devices). Anandtech got better performance out of the N4, when they chilled it in the freezer 1st.
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True,what I really meant was same processor/ram, however much more to the phone. I want a phone today, however the N4 looks better in some ways the LGOG in more. If I wasn't sick i would be at AT&T or Best buy right now
Im getting my g4 tomorrow, what you guys reallly think of it?
Is it a keeper or can i do better? I have nexus 6 love it but so like the look of the g4
any feed back would be great
thank you
If the size of the nexus 6 doesn't bother you I would stick with that. The g4 camera is amazing. But otherwise the nexus 6 is faster in every way. Battery lasts longer. Charges a lot faster. And of course root and unlocked boot loader. At this point I'm kind of regretting the g4. Other than the amazing camera, which really is great. I just couldn't handle the nexus 6 size. Hell my nexus 5 is faster than the g4. I'm actually using it more because of root. I miss too much of that stuff I guess.
I had the Nexus 6 and it's going back. The only thing I'll miss about the N6 is the larger screen and front facing speakers.
Battery life is much better on my G4, without a doubt. I can get about double the life out of my G4 than my nexus 6. I even hacked my N6 and installed custom kernels, amplify, app ops, greenify, bah! Battery life is terrible on the N6. The G4 charges quickly if you don't use it. If you have the screen it, it charges more slowly. I think they worry about the heat. I noticed that the G4 doesn't heat up NEARLY as much as the Nexus 6 on its fast charger (the nexus 6's I mean). The Nexus 6 got SO HOT... It was a nightmare.
The Nexus 6 screen is also a lot dimmer, and it heats up in a matter of 1 minute of use. It made it VERY uncomfortable to use, and when I'd drop it back into my pocket, my leg would get warm because of it. The G4 stays cool always, and it only gets a little warm on the fast charger, and not really at all on a normal charger. LG did a very good thing here!
Speed? The N6 is faster, and always will be, but not by a lot. I don't notice any lag, But then again I always use Nova and Touchpal keyboard.
Camera? Quality is very nice on both. I'm quite surprised. With HDR+ the Nexus 6 is very good, but focusing time is VERY VERY slow, and more of than not the subject moves. Very good quality pictures though. But the G4 has a great camera with a lot of control and it's super fast to take pictures. Just yesterday I went to a photography class and since the G4 has manual controls I used it as well as a DSLR camera that they lent us... The pictures came out outstanding!
I'd say both are good phones, but ... I like the G4 more. But I miss the screen size and the front facing speakers. I thought updates were the most important thing, but really, if the device just works, what else do you really need? The G4 just works for me right out of the box, with no fidgeting or hacking required - which I think is how a phone for a normal user should be. The N6 is awesome though for hacking! SO EASY TO ROOT AND INSTALL ROMS AND KERNELS! I couldn't believe how easy it was xD
Best of luck! Let us know what you think
cheers for the feedback guys
Will keep looking, wanted the g3 as it got really good marks so thought the g4 would be better. Dont want to go back to samsung or sony (both good phones just not my style) would of gone with the new htc if it was worth it. Love the nexus 6 loads.
Thanks again guys
I actually won my G4 somewhere, I would never buy it. I thought I was gonna sell it, new, with plastic protectors still on, but after playing with it for a while and after seeing I can unlock and root it(815), I decided to keep it. Now I've learned to love it. Well, at least until the next Nexus series comes out.
There're two things that drive me crazy with the G4. One is the touch problem (mostly with the KnockCode) and the other one is the lag in web browsers (scrolling pages). Non of these issues occurred with the G3.
I still believe that both of these issues can be fixed with software update, but I'm running out of patience.
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There're two things that drive me crazy with the G4. One is the touch problem (mostly with the KnockCode) and the other one is the lag in web browsers (scrolling pages). Non of these issues occurred with the G3.
I still believe that both of these issues can be fixed with software update, but I'm running out of patience.
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Knock code depends on your proximity sensor, if it's covered, it won't work. Even if your fingers are to close, the sensor might still pick it up and it doesn't work.
EDIT: Oh my bad, I was talking about knock/tap to wake. Dunno bout the code though as I don't use it.
Hi
I'm looking to get a new phone. Currently I have a Moto X play and was wondering if the 5X is a good upgrade for me.
What I want from the 5X is speed, decent battery life(4 hours SOT) and good development support.
Can any 5X owners help me out?
I have never even played with Moto X play, but I can assure you that 5x is blazing fast in daily stuff and there is no problem at all with reaching above 4h SOT ( at least for me ). You have tons of custom roms, kernels and other things to play with, even if you don't want to go that far, you receive monthly security updates.
What about usb otg support?
There's no problem with it, everything works as it should. It may vary on your cable of course.
There isn't anything wrong with my X play, in fact I like it quite a bit. It has awesome battery life and nice features but limited development.
I have a nexus 7 tablet but have never had a nexus phone. I noticed that nexuses get all the good mods and guides so that's the main reason I want to get one.
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There isn't anything wrong with my X play, in fact I like it quite a bit. It has awesome battery life and nice features but limited development.
I have a nexus 7 tablet but have never had a nexus phone. I noticed that nexuses get all the good mods and guides so that's the main reason I want to get one.
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The battery life will be a downgrade as the X Play has a massive battery and lower powered SoC. However I still find it adequate for 1-2 day battery life with 3-6 hours SoT depending on usage. The audio speaker probably isn't much better either.
Everything else should be a noticeable improvement, specifically the finger print reader, camera, and custom software.
If you are used to the size and weight of the X Play, could you stretch to the cost of the 6P? I have a 5X and mostly I like it but the only thing stopping me going for the 6P was the size. The 6P would seem a massive step up from the Moto where the 5X will be a baby one.
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If you are used to the size and weight of the X Play, could you stretch to the cost of the 6P? I have a 5X and mostly I like it but the only thing stopping me going for the 6P was the size. The 6P would seem a massive step up from the Moto where the 5X will be a baby one.
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I had a 6p and it blew away my 5x. I had an accident with my 6p and ended up getting a 5x. Got it super cheap. I like the build quality of the 5x better as 6p is fragile and I work alot outside. I wish we had the CPU and ram the 6p has this phone would be awesome!! Don't get me wrong i love my 5x but liked my 6p more because of the 8 core and the larger ram. Looking forward to next Nexiis. ? @ op: I'd wait a few more months and see what's coming. I bet it will be great, always is. ?
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At this point in the year I would wait until the fall and see what the new Nexus phones will be. As soon as the 2016 Nexus phones are released I'm getting rid of my 5X. It's okay but no where near a keeper for me. The 6P was light-years ahead of it but I had to replace my 6P multiple times because of quality defects.
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Tbh, if you already own a Moto X Play then the N5x is no upgrade that's worth the money.
I'd suggest waiting for the next mid-range Nexus or a deal on a current flagship (LG G5 is undergoing serious price correction, at least here in Germany), if you can stretch your budget a bit.
My boss has a 6P and I played around with it a bit. It's a dam good phone but it's way too big. I find X play a bit awkward to use with one hand as well that's why I was thinking a smaller phone. The 5X is around the size of my beloved Moto G.
I realy want a nexus again if for nothing else than the development. I guess I'll wait for the new ones and make my mind up then.
Thanks guys
I'm tempted by the 6p only because of it being a Nexus device. But honestly after getting a 32gb 5x for 200. The 6p not worth it in my honest opinion. Now if you want the 6p like feel and cheaper price tag try the honor 5x. Basically same phone(of course internals are better on 6p) but has development and will continue to grow and fast because of honor release sources like they promised. Now that would be a upgrade only because the honor 5x is basically the cheap 6p fingerprint scanner, unlocked bootloader, root, custom Roms. If not then unless you can sell your x play and get a good deal on the n5x then do it.
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I dont sell my phones, I keep them and use them from time to time. Yeah the 6P is too big to use in my opinion.
Honor isn't available in my country and its a pain to import. Nexus devices are easily obtained from Orange
I agree with the others to wait a few more months. The 5X isn't all that great, with the low battery capacity being the most glaring issue for me. Though I could go on about other deficiencies with it, like even the camera app crashing at times, and some extreme lags at times. Wait for the next batch of Nexus phones and there might be something nice in there. If not, the price on the 5X will definitely drop anyway.
If you experience slow downs/lag and it's not due to temperature throttling (which happens on all phones at some point, in the end it's a closed box with no cooling, threshold is set pretty low on N5x) you could test for an unoptimised app running in the background (e.g. I found Apple Music beta to be a culprit), otherwise it could a brief moment where the phone clears some ram.
Battery life and smoothness of the system is something I wouldn't list as cons from my experience with this device.
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I agree with the others to wait a few more months. The 5X isn't all that great, with the low battery capacity being the most glaring issue for me. Though I could go on about other deficiencies with it, like even the camera app crashing at times, and some extreme lags at times. Wait for the next batch of Nexus phones and there might be something nice in there. If not, the price on the 5X will definitely drop anyway.
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Try Butterfly Interactive tweak on Phasma kernel and a custom rom. Enjoy 8-9 hours of screen on time like me while getting decently low temperature of 34 C overall. It's also incredibly smooth and the ram never exceeds 1 GB. Never had a crash with apps. Everything works flawlesly here, maybe you don't know how to handle your phone, mate.
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I agree with the others to wait a few more months. The 5X isn't all that great, with the low battery capacity being the most glaring issue for me. Though I could go on about other deficiencies with it, like even the camera app crashing at times, and some extreme lags at times. Wait for the next batch of Nexus phones and there might be something nice in there. If not, the price on the 5X will definitely drop anyway.
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Sounds like a bad app. My camera app has never crashed, no extreme lag even when my device gets super hot doing GPS navigation in the sun.
The next batch of Nexus phones are about 5 months away.
When I first got my 5X I loved it. But I've had it a month and the shine is definitely off the apple now. Here's what I've learned:
1) as a computer-type device, the 5X is great. It's quick, the screen is great, no bloatware. That's all good.
2) its battery life isn't the greatest, but it is good enough (having come from Droid MAXX and Droid RAZR MAXX, I have big battery expectations)
3) as a phone, the 5X sucks. The call quality is terrible. It is worse than I remember OLD cell phones 20 years ago being - conversations drop words and are garbled and you're constantly asking the person on the other end to repeat themselves. The volume to the ear piece when on regular calls is too quiet, even when set to maximum. On speakerphone, it is barely audible if there is any noise in your environment at all (like a fan, a tv, or other people talking).
So, while at its core, the 5X is a nice mobile computing device, it is a poor phone at best.
I get call quality equal to landline whenever the reception is good. I agree volume using the speaker for calls is too low (or sounds like a robot if you have to turn it all the way up), earpiece volume is alright.
Experiences on this device seem to vary a lot. Many faulty handsets.
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When I first got my 5X I loved it. But I've had it a month and the shine is definitely off the apple now. Here's what I've learned:
1) as a computer-type device, the 5X is great. It's quick, the screen is great, no bloatware. That's all good.
2) its battery life isn't the greatest, but it is good enough (having come from Droid MAXX and Droid RAZR MAXX, I have big battery expectations)
3) as a phone, the 5X sucks. The call quality is terrible. It is worse than I remember OLD cell phones 20 years ago being - conversations drop words and are garbled and you're constantly asking the person on the other end to repeat themselves. The volume to the ear piece when on regular calls is too quiet, even when set to maximum. On speakerphone, it is barely audible if there is any noise in your environment at all (like a fan, a tv, or other people talking).
So, while at its core, the 5X is a nice mobile computing device, it is a poor phone at best.
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The call quality is terrible, i find people are ALWAYS telling me they cannot hear me, i have to practically yell it to it
Hey guys. I have an LG G5 currently and am getting the HTC 10 delivered tomorrow as the LG G5 GPS issue is driving me mad. What I'm wondering is, is the HTC 10 a better phone? Naturally most of you are going to be a bit bias due to owning the 10, but try and be as unbiased a possible. As I said my main issue with the G5 is that my gps is very hit and miss (miss 70% of the time) although at first it worked flawlessly for a couple of months.
I'm liking the sounds of the built in DAC and I love the build quality of the HTC 10 too. I hear the camera has been improved since launch thanks to software update? I've also heard about a pink tint to the screen, is this with all HTC 10 handsets or just the odd one?
I haven't owned a HTC since I had the M7 on release and I usually keep a phone from anywhere between 2 months to 6 months so it was easily a few years back I think? but I need a keeper for 2 full years this time around. The G5 I've had for maybe 3 months and was supposed to be my 2 year keeper lol.
Also how easy is rooting and flashing on the HTC 10? The reason I switched from the M7 was because for some reason after flashing some kernels and ROMs for months my signal had broke and WiFi had broke too with both dropping in and out every 30 seconds. I did eventually fix this but that was a couple months after getting a new phone and then I sold the M7
Thanks guys
Hi
I've just moved to the HTC 10 from the LG G5, a few days actually, and I find myself missing the G5.
The speaker on the G5 is the biggest thing I miss, it really blows the H10 away. I will be using a BT speaker for gaming and chilling when i'm away from headphones though now I've got the H10. (EDIT: this one might be up for discussion or you can judge for yourself when you get your 10, maybe even advise me if my 10 is faulty, as my 10 speaker is 50% quieter than the LG and has no bass)
The wide angle lens is the other, and the G5 camera's in general. The manual mode on the 10 is awful and in my opinion useless, but Auto produces decent shots. I will be picking up one of the lenses with Macro, Wide and Fish eye lenses from ebay see if I can get around that. The G5 is slightly smoother and quicker and I miss the G5 keyboard lol.
Aside from that the HTC 10 is a great phone, it's almost as fast as the G5 although it gets a tad hot, music through headphones is insanely loud and great quality, GPS I haven't tried yet.
Oddly enough the GPS, wifi and 4G performance on the LG G5 was the best of any phone I've used, so I don't understand the GPS issues people used to get.
Given a chance, and now after rooting and installing Viper again, I think i'll get over my missing the G5 but for now, I think the G5 is a better phone. (I am contemplating buying another to use as my work phone)
As you're getting the 10 delivered, you will work all this out anyway and probably be more than happy with the 10.
I went from a G5 to a HTC 10. The only thing I missed was the wide angle camera but thats obvious lol. The build on the 10 is just so godly. Especially coming from the G5. Its just refreshing and makes you happy when you hold it over the G5. Its pretty damn awesome lol. Other than that everything else is on par really. Well the speakers and dac are better on the 10. The screens about even probly. The battery life is better on the 10. The skins better on the 10. Over all the 10 is better in every way except it doesnt have the wide angle cam, so if you never used it youll be fine
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I went from a G5 to a HTC 10. The only thing I missed was the wide angle camera but thats obvious lol. The build on the 10 is just so godly. Especially coming from the G5. Its just refreshing and makes you happy when you hold it over the G5. Its pretty damn awesome lol. Other than that everything else is on par really. Well the speakers and dac are better on the 10. The screens about even probly. The battery life is better on the 10. The skins better on the 10. Over all the 10 is better in every way except it doesnt have the wide angle cam, so if you never used it youll be fine
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Do you think it's possible my speakers are faulty? I only ask because they're about 50% as loud as my old G5 and aside from clarity they have zero bass. I'm wondering if I should replace within 14 days? (Sorry for sidetracking the thread)
Jonathan-H said:
Do you think it's possible my speakers are faulty? I only ask because they're about 50% as loud as my old G5 and aside from clarity they have zero bass. I'm wondering if I should replace within 14 days? (Sorry for sidetracking the thread)
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idk hard to tell. I mean the g5 had a really loud speaker on the bottom. But having dual speakers on the 10 was my favorite.
Jonathan-H said:
Hi
I've just moved to the HTC 10 from the LG G5, a few days actually, and I find myself missing the G5.
The speaker on the G5 is the biggest thing I miss, it really blows the H10 away. I will be using a BT speaker for gaming and chilling when i'm away from headphones though now I've got the H10. The wide angle lens is the other, and the G5 camera's in general. The manual mode on the 10 is awful and in my opinion useless, but Auto produces decent shots. I will be picking up one of the lenses with Macro, Wide and Fish eye lenses from ebay see if I can get around that. The G5 is slightly smoother and quicker and I miss the G5 keyboard lol.
Aside from that the HTC 10 is a great phone, it's almost as fast as the G5 although it gets a tad hot, music through headphones is insanely loud and great quality, GPS I haven't tried yet.
Oddly enough the GPS, wifi and 4G performance on the LG G5 was the best of any phone I've used, so I don't understand the GPS issues people used to get.
Given a chance, and now after rooting and installing Viper again, I think i'll get over my missing the G5 but for now, I think the G5 is a better phone. (I am contemplating buying another to use as my work phone)
As you're getting the 10 delivered, you will work all this out anyway and probably be more than happy with the 10.
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Well if possible I want to leave the delivery sealed and send the HTC 10 back if people think the G5 is a better phone. Like I said my only issue with the G5 is its poor GPS (constantly searching) so I can't navigate! Which I do quite a lot Lol. I also only get around 3-4hrs screen on time. I've seen people on the HTC 10 getting 7-8hrs SoT
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Well if possible I want to leave the delivery sealed and send the HTC 10 back if people think the G5 is a better phone. Like I said my only issue with the G5 is its poor GPS (constantly searching) so I can't navigate! Which I do quite a lot Lol. I also only get around 3-4hrs screen on time. I've seen people on the HTC 10 getting 7-8hrs SoT
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unless you want the wide angle camera the HTC 10 is better in every way imo. LG also has bad quality control lately with the G4 bootlooping, the V10 bootlooping and some issues on the G5. DEF go the HTC 10 over G5. Also the HTC 10 is likely to be the first phone to upgrade to nougat that isnt a nexus device. Since you know there making the pixels
Can not say I ever had a G5 but did have the G2 and G4, both garbage, neither lasted a year without major issue.
Thanks I might keep the HTC 10 when it arrives tomorrow then. But anymore input from other people before then would be good too
I currently have both phones but I prefer the HTC 10. The Bui!d quality is better on the HTC, the G5 seems to scratch a lot easier. I have a couple little scratches on it even though I really take care of my phones. The HTC looks brand new. I like the dual speakers (sorta dual I guess) as they sound better when watching movies. The G5 definitely gets louder tho. The sound from the headphone jack is also better on the 10, but if you have the hifi DAC for the G5 they sound pretty much the same (awesome that is). The wide angle camera (really just the camera function in general) on the G5 is probably the one thing it has over the HTC.
Everything else between these to phones comes down to preference. The HTC is closer to stock Android, but LG's layering on top of the OS introduces some neat functionality. Speed, screen, processing, storage are all pretty similar. HTC does adoptive storage out if the gate though.
Rooting I believe us also better someone the HTC u less you have the LG H850.
My nod goes to the 10 if i had to choose one.
I'm keeping the HTC 10 and selling the LG g5. I really love the feel Of The HTC 10 and it's a really nice experience overall. 2nd day of use and I'm getting 5hrs SoT which is about an hour or slightly more than my G5. I will probably miss the G5 camera but I'm sure I'll get over it eventually lol.
Thanks guys.
I came from the LG G5 to the HTC 10, completely worth it imo.
I miss the G5's camera and fingerprint placement, but nothing else really.
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I'm keeping the HTC 10 and selling the LG g5. I really love the feel Of The HTC 10 and it's a really nice experience overall. 2nd day of use and I'm getting 5hrs SoT which is about an hour or slightly more than my G5. I will probably miss the G5 camera but I'm sure I'll get over it eventually lol.
Thanks guys.
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After installing a custom ROM to remove some of the annoying issues, and V4a to improve the sound quality and speaker bass and volume, and taking some brilliant shots and video footage of a gig last night, I have changed my mind, Rooted and properly modded, the 10 is better than the G5 lol.
Stock, the G5 still has it for me and is a better out of the box experience than the 10. But Rooted and modded the 10 comes out of it's shell and really shines.
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I'm keeping the HTC 10 and selling the LG g5. I really love the feel Of The HTC 10 and it's a really nice experience overall. 2nd day of use and I'm getting 5hrs SoT which is about an hour or slightly more than my G5. I will probably miss the G5 camera but I'm sure I'll get over it eventually lol.
Thanks guys.
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TLR go for G5 for swappable batteries.
I'm writing this on a HTC m8. I've had a great ride with this phone but really been bummed out with the non removable battery. 18 months into ownership the m8 battery started behaving weird. It drained a lot faster. Now 2+ years later it is very frustrating battey wise, when the phone gets to 30-20% it shuts down without warning. Obviously my non removable battery has reached "end of life".
I know phones with non removable batteries can be replaced but HTC one series phones have a notorious record of being one of the hardest phones to replace battery wise...not only that some have reported that other components sometimes get damaged in the attempt to replace the battery.
Don't get me wrong I love HTC, the build quality is great and I've never really had a problem with lag or any thing like that. But I wish HTC would release a phone with a removable battery then it would be perfect... Unlike others I'm not obsessed with how thin a phone should look.
I know this is about the HTC 10 vs G5 (and not HTC m8) but i would say you need to factor in how long you will have the phone for....if you're like me and like to keep a phone for 18+ months then maybe G5 is the way to go.
I'm actually waiting for the LG V20 to be released as I'll never go back to the frustration of non removable batteries no matter how good the phone is.
I'm pretty sure that in another year this HTC 10 forum will be awash with battery issue posts just like the HTC One M8 is now.
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HTC 10 all the way. Only other phone was the M8 I really enjoyed over every phone I ever had which was damn near every manufacturer lol
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mwake4goten said:
TLR go for G5 for swappable batteries.
I'm writing this on a HTC m8. I've had a great ride with this phone but really been bummed out with the non removable battery. 18 months into ownership the m8 battery started behaving weird. It drained a lot faster. Now 2+ years later it is very frustrating battey wise, when the phone gets to 30-20% it shuts down without warning. Obviously my non removable battery has reached "end of life".
I know phones with non removable batteries can be replaced but HTC one series phones have a notorious record of being one of the hardest phones to replace battery wise...not only that some have reported that other components sometimes get damaged in the attempt to replace the battery.
Don't get me wrong I love HTC, the build quality is great and I've never really had a problem with lag or any thing like that. But I wish HTC would release a phone with a removable battery then it would be perfect... Unlike others I'm not obsessed with how thin a phone should look.
I know this is about the HTC 10 vs G5 (and not HTC m8) but i would say you need to factor in how long you will have the phone for....if you're like me and like to keep a phone for 18+ months then maybe G5 is the way to go.
I'm actually waiting for the LG V20 to be released as I'll never go back to the frustration of non removable batteries no matter how good the phone is.
I'm pretty sure that in another year this HTC 10 forum will be awash with battery issue posts just like the HTC One M8 is now.
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I'll echo your concerns. I tried to change my M8's battery myself. Ruined something and had to send it in for repairs. It was fixed quite cheaply and got a fresh battery installed by a professional.
Though a removable battery feels like a good option to have, let's face it, you'll only need it about once or twice in the phone's lifetime, and for those times, you can pay a little and get a professional to do it.
Of course, if you like to have spare batteries and switch them out on demand, then that's a different story.
I noticed two major differences (so far) between my old Nexus 6P and the new Pixel 2 XL (my first Pixel, so I do not know if the Pixel 2 is different from the original Pixel):
- the recovery menu does not have a menu item to clear the cache partition;
- there is no option to require a PIN or pattern before the operating system boots.
I'd like to know also.
Which one has better loudspeakers?
Which one is easier to read under direct sunlight?
Which one has deeper/stronger vibration sensation?
Feels better than the other?
etc.
etc.
etc.
It's really hard to justify $900+ for a Pixel 2 XL just to get water resistance and slightly faster hardware.
CZ Eddie said:
I'd like to know also.
Which one has better loudspeakers?
Which one is easier to read under direct sunlight?
Which one has deeper/stronger vibration sensation?
Feels better than the other?
etc.
etc.
etc.
It's really hard to justify $900+ for a Pixel 2 XL just to get water resistance and slightly faster hardware.
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I noticed two major differences (so far) between my old Nexus 6P and the new Pixel 2 XL (my first Pixel, so I do not know if the Pixel 2 is different from the original Pixel):
- the recovery menu does not have a menu item to clear the cache partition;
- there is no option to require a PIN or pattern before the operating system boots.
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There is no longer a cache partition on newer versions of android, I believe this goes for all phones running Oreo and up. As for the pin before the OS boots up, I never used or knew about that with my 6P, unless you're talking about having to enter a pin at the lockscreen after boot. I would have to say the 6Ps speakers were a little bit better in my opinion. The Pixel XL 2 is definitely better in direct sunlight. As for the vibration, I feel like both are a little weak but the 6Ps vibration was terrible until it was increased using a kernel tuner, the XL 2 on the other hand is already at 100%, I'd have to give vibration strength to the XL2. The XL2 feels much lighter in my hand compared to 6P. The 6P is also plagued with the dreaded early shutdown issue due to badly manufactured battery, mine used to shut down as high as 50%
2 main points to me are.....the Nexus 6P was a throttling POS with terrible battery life, the Pixel 2 XL is not. Everything else is whatevs.
The end.
I had 6P and it was shutting off randomly. Pixel 2XL was the obvious choice for a replacement. After using it for about 3 weeks, I must say that the battery life is superb, especially compared to the 6P. I would have to use this phone HEAVILY throughout the day for me to drain it out. And the camera is fantastic as well.
The 6P was my first ever Android phone and maybe it was just being new to the Android world in general but I absolutely loved that phone. It did start shutting down around 30% and had some heating/throttling issues, but other than that I loved that thing! Speakers were insanely loud, PureNexus on that was super smooth and stable, and I loved the design of it overall.
Going to the XL right after wasn't too bad except for the partitions causing slower development. Seeing all the stuff available for the 6P, it was kind of a let down not having as much stuff to modify and tweak.
Went to the OnePlus 5/5T and they were good but the camera on the 2XL got me to switch.
Now that devs are more familiar with the A/B layout, development isn't so lacking and it's not too bad on the user's end either. I'm really satsified with this phone, no screen issues like many are having and the blue tint is very slight, so it's a non-issue for me.
All-in-all, I probably could have went from the 6P to the 2XL, skipping the OG XL, but it is what it is. I guess this way I was able to get familiar with the slot layouts myself with the XL, so dealing with the 2XL didn't feel like such an obstacle to overcome.
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There is no longer a cache partition on newer versions of android, I believe this goes for all phones running Oreo and up. As for the pin before the OS boots up, I never used or knew about that with my 6P, unless you're talking about having to enter a pin at the lockscreen after boot. I would have to say the 6Ps speakers were a little bit better in my opinion. The Pixel XL 2 is definitely better in direct sunlight. As for the vibration, I feel like both are a little weak but the 6Ps vibration was terrible until it was increased using a kernel tuner, the XL 2 on the other hand is already at 100%, I'd have to give vibration strength to the XL2. The XL2 feels much lighter in my hand compared to 6P. The 6P is also plagued with the dreaded early shutdown issue due to badly manufactured battery, mine used to shut down as high as 50%
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I've used iPhone all my life and this Nexus 6P is my first android phone. Got it after I saw the neighbour kid using it.
Damn the speakers are super loud.
The pure Google OS is superbly fine.
Everything is great. I don't have have any battery issue + the fast charging is an awesome thing for someone like me.
BUT, THE VIBRATION SUCKS.
I'm a Motorcyclist. And I loved iPhone for it. The vibration is so deep that you cannot miss a call.
Nexus 6P is fine when I'm driving but any other time when I'm on motorcycle, or home or anywhere the vibration does not even feel in pocket.
How did you managed to increase it?
Any pointers? That'd be very helpful.
I was thinking of getting a smartband to get notified for calls. [emoji849]
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xplodee said:
I've used iPhone all my life and this Nexus 6P is my first android phone. Got it after I saw the neighbour kid using it.
Damn the speakers are super loud.
The pure Google OS is superbly fine.
Everything is great. I don't have have any battery issue + the fast charging is an awesome thing for someone like me.
BUT, THE VIBRATION SUCKS.
I'm a Motorcyclist. And I loved iPhone for it. The vibration is so deep that you cannot miss a call.
Nexus 6P is fine when I'm driving but any other time when I'm on motorcycle, or home or anywhere the vibration does not even feel in pocket.
How did you managed to increase it?
Any pointers? That'd be very helpful.
I was thinking of getting a smartband to get notified for calls. [emoji849]
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Root it, install a custom kernel like Ex, Flash, or Kylo use the EXKM app, and increase the vibration settings. Done
My take on the 6P vs 2 XL?
I love my 6P running Pure Nexus, Flash kernel, and su, finely tuned. It's fast, reliable, lots of custom options, and I get good batt life for my use (4.5 - 5.5 hrs sot).
My 2 XL is rooted, running Flash kernel, and gets good batt life for my use (4.5 hr sot +/- 30 mins) with no cust rom, and few custom options.
I enjoy the 2 XL way more, it is noticeably faster, and I've nearly forgotten my 6P which is a great device that doesn't need upgraded even running a 6 month old Cust Rom.
Could you live with the 6P and save $800? Sure.
But man could've just stayed on the earth looking up at the moon too... I'm really glad we went there!
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Root it, install a custom kernel like Ex, Flash, or Kylo use the EXKM app, and increase the vibration settings. Done
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Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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xplodee said:
Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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Follow this guide, and you'll be all set :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Nexus 6P was absolutely horrendous with outdoor viewing. Even with brightness all the way up it was abysmal to read in sunlight.. Pixel 2 XL blows it away.
Nexus 6P as mentioned before was a throttling heat generator
Nexus 6P battery was garbage
Nexus 6P loud speaker was terrible
The oleophobic coating wore off quickly and the phone became a smudge magnet.
Nexus 6P on T-Mobile was annoying with modem randomly deciding it doesn't want to connect to the mobile network anymore due to band 12 ****ery and requiring a reboot to connect to the mobile network again.
Nexus 6P didn't age gracefully that's for sure.
What I'd really like to know is if the 6P with the "high brightness mod" found in kernels (thanks to Flar2) is brighter than the Pixel 2 XL stock max brightness, which will not be getting that mod anytime soon (if ever).
The high brightness mod on my 6P really, really cranks up the brightness and works super well when set to automatic.
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What I'd really like to know is if the 6P with the "high brightness mod" found in kernels (thanks to Flar2) is brighter than the Pixel 2 XL stock max brightness, which will not be getting that mod anytime soon (if ever).
The high brightness mod on my 6P really, really cranks up the brightness and works super well when set to automatic.
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Yep, my 6p with HBM on, is slightly brighten than my P2XL at full brightness. But it's not a drastic difference in my opinion.
Truly and deeply, batter camera, battery life, and battery longevity. The 2XL being a 10nm device puts the power and efficiency double that than the 6p on paper. Real world.... It's better and longer.
All of the other yada yada's:
- Better built
- Water resistant
- Better Dac
- Photo/Video storage
- smaller bezels
Yeah, can't think of anything else that matters you can't do without root.
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Except for diminished battery life I had no real problem with my 6P, but it was good to replace it with the Pixel 2 XL. Booting up the 6P compared to the speed of the 2XL makes me smile on the occasions I do shut down.
styckx said:
Nexus 6P was absolutely horrendous with outdoor viewing. Even with brightness all the way up it was abysmal to read in sunlight.. Pixel 2 XL blows it away.
Nexus 6P as mentioned before was a throttling heat generator
Nexus 6P battery was garbage
Nexus 6P loud speaker was terrible
The oleophobic coating wore off quickly and the phone became a smudge magnet.
Nexus 6P on T-Mobile was annoying with modem randomly deciding it doesn't want to connect to the mobile network anymore due to band 12 ****ery and requiring a reboot to connect to the mobile network again.
Nexus 6P didn't age gracefully that's for sure.
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Yeah, mine developed battery issues very quickly before it was replaced.
I never had any problems with the 6P band 12 on T-Mobile. I was hoping to see greater throughput on the 2XL but it's generally about the same. There are times when the 2XL outshines the 6P, but I can't say it's consistent.
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Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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It's pretty easy, I'm not super good with this stuff, but the instructions are good to follow. There's a Guide and a Index thread by heisenberg that has everything you will need. The 6P is a fun phone to mod. You should do it
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Haha. I have no idea how to do all that and mainly the fear of messing up the phone.
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Just a warning, if you decide to increase the vibration strength, try not to put it past 75-80% you could damage the vibration motor if you go higher.
Thanks for heads-up.
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