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[Q] HTC One (M7) to G3..... Any experiences??

Hiya, I am wanting to replace my HTc One M7 as the screen has cracked and the battery life is now woeful, it is no longer lasting the day
I was looking at the Sony Z2 and hear the battery is awesome but saw the LG G3 and it looks very nice indeed
It's hard to find comparisons of the HTC One to the LG. G3 as all the comparisons are to the M8
I don't want to be any worse off with the battery life but don't consider myself a heavy user
Has anyone gone from the M7 to G3???

I came from the m7 too, had the phone a week tomorrow, what sort of comparisons you interested in?

Hiya, mainly the battery life, I'm finding my HTC Really Poor now

Personally I'd say the battery life is good. I stream spotify on 4g in both morning and evening commute (hour in total). Play games through my lunch (about 40 mins) have push emails synced and check fbook and g+ regularly on here. Still has around 40-50% by the time I get home. Having around 4 hour screen on time at 70% brightness each day. Currently at 54% after 7 hours on time, 2 and a bit hours screen on time of which half hour was dead trigger 2 and 15 mins other games. With half hour spotify streaming (screen off).

Thanks, what would your HTC be on with similar use??

This would be my upgrade path as well because I current have a HTC One M7. My questions would be-
What are the speakers like on the G3 compared to the M7?
Are you missing Blinkfeed at all?
In general, are there any things from the HTC that you are missing with the LG?

Hard to compare really because I always had the power save on with the m7 because I didn't have as much data allowance and had my spotify tracks downloaded. Screen brightness was around 50%. Saying that I would go home and stream Netflix but I'd have it charging through the mhl to the tv at the same time so I couldn't say to be honest. I'd sometimes plug the HTC in at work to top it up a bit. I personally think this phone holds out more than the m7 did.

nickosbad said:
Hiya, I am wanting to replace my HTc One M7 as the screen has cracked and the battery life is now woeful, it is no longer lasting the day
I was looking at the Sony Z2 and hear the battery is awesome but saw the LG G3 and it looks very nice indeed
It's hard to find comparisons of the HTC One to the LG. G3 as all the comparisons are to the M8
I don't want to be any worse off with the battery life but don't consider myself a heavy user
Has anyone gone from the M7 to G3???
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I went from M7 to G3. Its been about a week now.
Battery life is definitely better on G3, and I used to have power saver on my M7 permanently. As you might expect, the screen on time does the most damage to the G3 battery, so on weekends when I am not checking the phone all the time, the battery hardly goes down at all. During the week, I still charge the phone every 24 hours, but I could make that stretch if I wanted to. Therefore, I am assuming the G3 battery compared to other flagships may not be too special or even below average maybe, but it is much better than M7 in my experience anyway.
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This would be my upgrade path as well because I current have a HTC One M7. My questions would be-
What are the speakers like on the G3 compared to the M7?
Are you missing Blinkfeed at all?
In general, are there any things from the HTC that you are missing with the LG?
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Yes, am missing Blinkfeed, and it was nice to have an all metal M7 in my hands, however those sacrifices to get the G3 have given me a longer battery life, and most important for me, a bigger screen, so movie watching, reading sites, typing, etc, are much better for me, and it still fits nicely into my pockets. Camera is great, and I dont have to worry about space anymore with a 64gb card inside !! And yes, once I have knackered the battery, I can just buy a new one ! Brightness is fine on G3, a tad less than M7 I think, but not an issue.
I am using Flipboard and Taptu widgets for news feeds now, but they are not a patch on Blinkfeed imho.......doesnt matter. Aparently, if I root and do a couple of other things, I could get Blinkfeed onto the G3, but I wont bother for now.

wyase9 said:
I went from M7 to G3. Its been about a week now.
Battery life is definitely better on G3, and I used to have power saver on my M7 permanently. As you might expect, the screen on time does the most damage to the G3 battery, so on weekends when I am not checking the phone all the time, the battery hardly goes down at all. During the week, I still charge the phone every 24 hours, but I could make that stretch if I wanted to. Therefore, I am assuming the G3 battery compared to other flagships may not be too special or even below average maybe, but it is much better than M7 in my experience anyway.
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Yes, am missing Blinkfeed, and it was nice to have an all metal M7 in my hands, however those sacrifices to get the G3 have given me a longer battery life, and most important for me, a bigger screen, so movie watching, reading sites, typing, etc, are much better for me, and it still fits nicely into my pockets. Camera is great, and I dont have to worry about space anymore with a 64gb card inside !! And yes, once I have knackered the battery, I can just buy a new one ! Brightness is fine on G3, a tad less than M7 I think, but not an issue.
I am using Flipboard and Taptu widgets for news feeds now, but they are not a patch on Blinkfeed imho.......doesnt matter. Aparently, if I root and do a couple of other things, I could get Blinkfeed onto the G3, but I wont bother for now.
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Thanks for that, actually you can download a 'lite' version of a Blinkfeed launcher if you look through the xda forums, without having to root. It's not quite the full experience on the HTC though, as you might expect.
What about the sound?

clarkgable said:
Thanks for that, actually you can download a 'lite' version of a Blinkfeed launcher if you look through the xda forums, without having to root. It's not quite the full experience on the HTC though, as you might expect.
What about the sound?
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Ohhh, I would love a 'lite' blinkfeed if I could just install it like any other app......do you know where abouts in the forums I should search ?
I havent done much testing for sound unfortunately, but then again, I seldom used the M7 speakers to the max either. I did a little youtube and changed the ringtones and played a bit of an MP3, but I didnt max out the sound, so cannot really give you much info.
However, in that short span of time, the sound was fine, good, great, not issues for me......I dont expect them to be as loud as the M8 , but they sound fine and in normal day-to-day they are good and clear and I assume louder than most phones at least. Doubt they would be show-off point for the phone however (front speakers and stereo makes more sense, but I would rather have a smaller bezel phone)

wyase9 said:
Ohhh, I would love a 'lite' blinkfeed if I could just install it like any other app......do you know where abouts in the forums I should search ?
I havent done much testing for sound unfortunately, but then again, I seldom used the M7 speakers to the max either. I did a little youtube and changed the ringtones and played a bit of an MP3, but I didnt max out the sound, so cannot really give you much info.
However, in that short span of time, the sound was fine, good, great, not issues for me......I dont expect them to be as loud as the M8 , but they sound fine and in normal day-to-day they are good and clear and I assume louder than most phones at least. Doubt they would be show-off point for the phone however (front speakers and stereo makes more sense, but I would rather have a smaller bezel phone)
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Here you go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735764

How about a comparison of the TV remote control function and the TV app? Is the IR range and accuracy decent on the G3?

galt said:
How about a comparison of the TV remote control function and the TV app? Is the IR range and accuracy decent on the G3?
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i had m8 now g3 i would say about the same

I had a m8. I would say battery life is close to it. M8 bit more fluid ui, the sound on this device is very reasonabley loud and clear. Ir blaster i find thr same but i like the g3 app better. Camera much better than m8 this was a biggie for me. Brightness better on m8 but no biggie i never have it above 90% anyway.wireless charging works lovely on the g3 . I no i carnt give u advice on comparing to a m7 but as the m8 is htc flagship and better than m7 u get thr jist. All in all if the g3 had maybe a slighly bigger battery and a bit more fluid ui this would tick all my boxs for sure.

galt said:
How about a comparison of the TV remote control function and the TV app? Is the IR range and accuracy decent on the G3?
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Sorry, never needed to use the ir blaster on m7 or the g3 now, so can't compare.

How u guys getting on with the G4?

Im getting my g4 tomorrow, what you guys reallly think of it?
Is it a keeper or can i do better? I have nexus 6 love it but so like the look of the g4
any feed back would be great
thank you

If the size of the nexus 6 doesn't bother you I would stick with that. The g4 camera is amazing. But otherwise the nexus 6 is faster in every way. Battery lasts longer. Charges a lot faster. And of course root and unlocked boot loader. At this point I'm kind of regretting the g4. Other than the amazing camera, which really is great. I just couldn't handle the nexus 6 size. Hell my nexus 5 is faster than the g4. I'm actually using it more because of root. I miss too much of that stuff I guess.

I had the Nexus 6 and it's going back. The only thing I'll miss about the N6 is the larger screen and front facing speakers.
Battery life is much better on my G4, without a doubt. I can get about double the life out of my G4 than my nexus 6. I even hacked my N6 and installed custom kernels, amplify, app ops, greenify, bah! Battery life is terrible on the N6. The G4 charges quickly if you don't use it. If you have the screen it, it charges more slowly. I think they worry about the heat. I noticed that the G4 doesn't heat up NEARLY as much as the Nexus 6 on its fast charger (the nexus 6's I mean). The Nexus 6 got SO HOT... It was a nightmare.
The Nexus 6 screen is also a lot dimmer, and it heats up in a matter of 1 minute of use. It made it VERY uncomfortable to use, and when I'd drop it back into my pocket, my leg would get warm because of it. The G4 stays cool always, and it only gets a little warm on the fast charger, and not really at all on a normal charger. LG did a very good thing here!
Speed? The N6 is faster, and always will be, but not by a lot. I don't notice any lag, But then again I always use Nova and Touchpal keyboard.
Camera? Quality is very nice on both. I'm quite surprised. With HDR+ the Nexus 6 is very good, but focusing time is VERY VERY slow, and more of than not the subject moves. Very good quality pictures though. But the G4 has a great camera with a lot of control and it's super fast to take pictures. Just yesterday I went to a photography class and since the G4 has manual controls I used it as well as a DSLR camera that they lent us... The pictures came out outstanding!
I'd say both are good phones, but ... I like the G4 more. But I miss the screen size and the front facing speakers. I thought updates were the most important thing, but really, if the device just works, what else do you really need? The G4 just works for me right out of the box, with no fidgeting or hacking required - which I think is how a phone for a normal user should be. The N6 is awesome though for hacking! SO EASY TO ROOT AND INSTALL ROMS AND KERNELS! I couldn't believe how easy it was xD
Best of luck! Let us know what you think

cheers for the feedback guys
Will keep looking, wanted the g3 as it got really good marks so thought the g4 would be better. Dont want to go back to samsung or sony (both good phones just not my style) would of gone with the new htc if it was worth it. Love the nexus 6 loads.
Thanks again guys

I actually won my G4 somewhere, I would never buy it. I thought I was gonna sell it, new, with plastic protectors still on, but after playing with it for a while and after seeing I can unlock and root it(815), I decided to keep it. Now I've learned to love it. Well, at least until the next Nexus series comes out.

There're two things that drive me crazy with the G4. One is the touch problem (mostly with the KnockCode) and the other one is the lag in web browsers (scrolling pages). Non of these issues occurred with the G3.
I still believe that both of these issues can be fixed with software update, but I'm running out of patience.

liamR said:
There're two things that drive me crazy with the G4. One is the touch problem (mostly with the KnockCode) and the other one is the lag in web browsers (scrolling pages). Non of these issues occurred with the G3.
I still believe that both of these issues can be fixed with software update, but I'm running out of patience.
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Knock code depends on your proximity sensor, if it's covered, it won't work. Even if your fingers are to close, the sensor might still pick it up and it doesn't work.
EDIT: Oh my bad, I was talking about knock/tap to wake. Dunno bout the code though as I don't use it.

Coming from OPO, will I be happy

I broke one OPO yesterday beyond repair, its not worth sending it back for the amount they are going to charge me to fix it($223). Will I be happy switching to the G3 since it is a very similar phone or should I look towards something like the G4. I know the G4 is apparently riddled with problems(touch screen issues being the worst) so that scares me a bit.
My biggest concern with the G3 is not the hardware. I know the 801 is still a decent CPU and will hold up for a while, I am nervous about continued support and updates being that the phone is already over a year old.
Sorry if this has been asked a million times, the OPO was my work phone and i need to make this decision ASAP.

wondering the same thing

LG g3 is best phone
better call time and standby time
okay you get like 3-4h screen on against 8h on opo but the opo didnt hold a day at work with bluetooth on and 2h browsing it came dead home mostly or at 10%
but the lg g3 in 2h loses 5% with bluetooth and 3g the opo lost more like 10-15% with the same bluetooth and lg g watch
over all better quality phone and smaller for the same screen
okay its a bit more plastic and slippy, but a tpu case fixes that, the opo has a slow and bad touchscreen worked but needed to press it hard/harder than normal
voila i recommand the lg g3 to all
6months of having a opo was enough the phone wan't premium like i wanted
(exchanged it for a gold 16gb lg g3 about the same value) but a 32gb would be better to have the 3gb ram that the only thing i miss

From my experience (never owned a OPO), I like my LG G3 (not love..). You shouldn't be worried about updates (we will be getting M) and XDA is a great place for updates (AOSP). As for battery, you may or may not like it, it varies for everyone but for me, I can get through a day easily with moderate usage (no gaming, texting, browsing the web, youtube, etc.). If you choose to root, you can get more on AOSP but it varies.
Overall, I like my LG G3 and would recommend it to you as well.
One last thing, the G4 sounds great too but you shouldn't be too worried about touch screen issues on the G4 because I'm sure it's a rare issue and the chances of it happening to you sound so slim. Don't worry too much, its just a phone
Good luck!

reggiexp said:
LG g3 is best phone
better call time and standby time
okay you get like 3-4h screen on against 8h on opo but the opo didnt hold a day at work with bluetooth on and 2h browsing it came dead home mostly or at 10%
but the lg g3 in 2h loses 5% with bluetooth and 3g the opo lost more like 10-15% with the same bluetooth and lg g watch
over all better quality phone and smaller for the same screen
okay its a bit more plastic and slippy, but a tpu case fixes that, the opo has a slow and bad touchscreen worked but needed to press it hard/harder than normal
voila i recommand the lg g3 to all
6months of having a opo was enough the phone wan't premium like i wanted
(exchanged it for a gold 16gb lg g3 about the same value) but a 32gb would be better to have the 3gb ram that the only thing i miss
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The OPO did have a solid battery, but I had touch screen issues like you mentioned. They seemed to come and go. When it "exploded" it did have a TPU case and glass screen protector but that didnt save it.
IamFlynn said:
From my experience (never owned a OPO), I like my LG G3 (not love..). You shouldn't be worried about updates (we will be getting M) and XDA is a great place for updates (AOSP). As for battery, you may or may not like it, it varies for everyone but for me, I can get through a day easily with moderate usage (no gaming, texting, browsing the web, youtube, etc.). If you choose to root, you can get more on AOSP but it varies.
Overall, I like my LG G3 and would recommend it to you as well.
One last thing, the G4 sounds great too but you shouldn't be too worried about touch screen issues on the G4 because I'm sure it's a rare issue and the chances of it happening to you sound so slim. Don't worry too much, its just a phone
Good luck!
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I am not a power user, little to no gaming so I think I should be ok.
I am sure the G4 issues are not on every phone but there is a 50 page thread over there about the screen issues and a lot of pissed off people who have returned multiple phones and some who just gave up altogether and moved on. It seems to be a little more than the typical issues that all phones inevitably have.

skrypj said:
I am sure the G4 issues are not on every phone but there is a 50 page thread over there about the screen issues and a lot of pissed off people who have returned multiple phones and some who just gave up altogether and moved on. It seems to be a little more than the typical issues that all phones inevitably have.
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Nonetheless, don't be afraid to try, you have options. Good luck mate!

I ended up pulling the trigger on a used g3 fulfilled by amazon. It is def a solid phone and was pretty cheap.
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I ended up pulling the trigger on a used g3 fulfilled by amazon. It is def a solid phone and was pretty cheap.
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good for you
the battery will be a bit different
but after some weeks you will get used to it
the opo has lots of screen on time but not standby so at work i don't see much difference using it 2h aday opo or lg g3 about hte same at the end of the day cause of the bad standby
but on a lazy day at home the opo was great 6h straight on the phone gaming internet no problem, lg 2-4h but at the end it is all worth it
i always wanted a lg g3/g2 but was to expensive that why i bought the opo and since the price of the opo didnt go down after 6mopnths use i could exchange it for a lg g3 16gb who was 350 new and 250 2nd had but right now about the same value 300euro new
any way enjoy the lg g3

my opinion is: GO FOR IT!
The LG G3 still one of the best this days and worth the money (32GB/3GB are at 365€ in Portugal ~399$ dollars).
If you are worried because updates and other things, for more 50$ you get the Motorola Nexus 6 32GB and get updates faster, have the SD805 is a bit more faster tha SD801 and is the only thing who are better...but some users report battery issues, screen issues (burning, get pinkish screen) etc etc, depends of lucky not necessary will you have those problems! i own a G3 and i love it:
camera is amazing;
sound is louder but dont have the same quality as Nexus 6!
weight is excellent to handle
screen without sharpness mod is a bit strange because oversharpening;
love the rear buttons and i cant live without this now, is so useful;
OST is about 4 hours but sometimes i get more if i use the phone inside home, i lower the brightness and i get about 5:30 hours;
easy to disassemble if you broke/damage something (i disassembly my G3 to apply thermal compound in processor to have good temps, because my G3 have heat issues.);
have a remote IR, other high-end phones dont have it, is so useful to me because sometimes i forget my remote and use the phone as my remote;
battery can be changed and with this if you get your battery damaged or have one to replace when run out of power you can do it;
overall is a good phone, is my opinion, when i was go to buy a high-end phone i am confused with Motorola Nexus 6 and LG G3, but because the issues is more in Nexus 6 than in G3 i buy the G3 for sure...but, if you arent worred about issues of Nexus 6, buy the Nexus 6 because have better screen color, no oversharpening and have better sound quality because have stereo speakers and have the updates faster!

So I got the phone. It was nearly flawless with a few very minor scratches on the screen. In order to see them you had look at the phone off angle from the bottom right corner, during a full moon, while the planets aligned. In other words I am very happy from a condition standpoint. So far the phone has been great, the camera is way faster, typing seems to be WAY more acurate than my last few phones, and its got an IR blaster which is did not realize. Battery does seem to drain quicker but i am not a power user so i dont think it will be an issue getting through the day.

To me, having seen OPO but not used for long, just do it. OPO is a good phone - for the price tag. Since you can get a cheap factory refurbished G3 now, I see no reason not to move on. Battery is super good with some tweaks and custom roms. Moderate usage and still around 70-80% of battery before going to bed. If you are not showing off your new phone that not many care any more, get a year old phone like g3, s5, and m8...

Is the 5X a worthy updgrade

Hi
I'm looking to get a new phone. Currently I have a Moto X play and was wondering if the 5X is a good upgrade for me.
What I want from the 5X is speed, decent battery life(4 hours SOT) and good development support.
Can any 5X owners help me out?

I have never even played with Moto X play, but I can assure you that 5x is blazing fast in daily stuff and there is no problem at all with reaching above 4h SOT ( at least for me ). You have tons of custom roms, kernels and other things to play with, even if you don't want to go that far, you receive monthly security updates.

What about usb otg support?

There's no problem with it, everything works as it should. It may vary on your cable of course.

There isn't anything wrong with my X play, in fact I like it quite a bit. It has awesome battery life and nice features but limited development.
I have a nexus 7 tablet but have never had a nexus phone. I noticed that nexuses get all the good mods and guides so that's the main reason I want to get one.

Ebrahim Ali said:
There isn't anything wrong with my X play, in fact I like it quite a bit. It has awesome battery life and nice features but limited development.
I have a nexus 7 tablet but have never had a nexus phone. I noticed that nexuses get all the good mods and guides so that's the main reason I want to get one.
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The battery life will be a downgrade as the X Play has a massive battery and lower powered SoC. However I still find it adequate for 1-2 day battery life with 3-6 hours SoT depending on usage. The audio speaker probably isn't much better either.
Everything else should be a noticeable improvement, specifically the finger print reader, camera, and custom software.

If you are used to the size and weight of the X Play, could you stretch to the cost of the 6P? I have a 5X and mostly I like it but the only thing stopping me going for the 6P was the size. The 6P would seem a massive step up from the Moto where the 5X will be a baby one.

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If you are used to the size and weight of the X Play, could you stretch to the cost of the 6P? I have a 5X and mostly I like it but the only thing stopping me going for the 6P was the size. The 6P would seem a massive step up from the Moto where the 5X will be a baby one.
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I had a 6p and it blew away my 5x. I had an accident with my 6p and ended up getting a 5x. Got it super cheap. I like the build quality of the 5x better as 6p is fragile and I work alot outside. I wish we had the CPU and ram the 6p has this phone would be awesome!! Don't get me wrong i love my 5x but liked my 6p more because of the 8 core and the larger ram. Looking forward to next Nexiis. ? @ op: I'd wait a few more months and see what's coming. I bet it will be great, always is. ?
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At this point in the year I would wait until the fall and see what the new Nexus phones will be. As soon as the 2016 Nexus phones are released I'm getting rid of my 5X. It's okay but no where near a keeper for me. The 6P was light-years ahead of it but I had to replace my 6P multiple times because of quality defects.
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Tbh, if you already own a Moto X Play then the N5x is no upgrade that's worth the money.
I'd suggest waiting for the next mid-range Nexus or a deal on a current flagship (LG G5 is undergoing serious price correction, at least here in Germany), if you can stretch your budget a bit.

My boss has a 6P and I played around with it a bit. It's a dam good phone but it's way too big. I find X play a bit awkward to use with one hand as well that's why I was thinking a smaller phone. The 5X is around the size of my beloved Moto G.
I realy want a nexus again if for nothing else than the development. I guess I'll wait for the new ones and make my mind up then.
Thanks guys

I'm tempted by the 6p only because of it being a Nexus device. But honestly after getting a 32gb 5x for 200. The 6p not worth it in my honest opinion. Now if you want the 6p like feel and cheaper price tag try the honor 5x. Basically same phone(of course internals are better on 6p) but has development and will continue to grow and fast because of honor release sources like they promised. Now that would be a upgrade only because the honor 5x is basically the cheap 6p fingerprint scanner, unlocked bootloader, root, custom Roms. If not then unless you can sell your x play and get a good deal on the n5x then do it.
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I dont sell my phones, I keep them and use them from time to time. Yeah the 6P is too big to use in my opinion.
Honor isn't available in my country and its a pain to import. Nexus devices are easily obtained from Orange

I agree with the others to wait a few more months. The 5X isn't all that great, with the low battery capacity being the most glaring issue for me. Though I could go on about other deficiencies with it, like even the camera app crashing at times, and some extreme lags at times. Wait for the next batch of Nexus phones and there might be something nice in there. If not, the price on the 5X will definitely drop anyway.

If you experience slow downs/lag and it's not due to temperature throttling (which happens on all phones at some point, in the end it's a closed box with no cooling, threshold is set pretty low on N5x) you could test for an unoptimised app running in the background (e.g. I found Apple Music beta to be a culprit), otherwise it could a brief moment where the phone clears some ram.
Battery life and smoothness of the system is something I wouldn't list as cons from my experience with this device.

Voicebox said:
I agree with the others to wait a few more months. The 5X isn't all that great, with the low battery capacity being the most glaring issue for me. Though I could go on about other deficiencies with it, like even the camera app crashing at times, and some extreme lags at times. Wait for the next batch of Nexus phones and there might be something nice in there. If not, the price on the 5X will definitely drop anyway.
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Try Butterfly Interactive tweak on Phasma kernel and a custom rom. Enjoy 8-9 hours of screen on time like me while getting decently low temperature of 34 C overall. It's also incredibly smooth and the ram never exceeds 1 GB. Never had a crash with apps. Everything works flawlesly here, maybe you don't know how to handle your phone, mate.

Voicebox said:
I agree with the others to wait a few more months. The 5X isn't all that great, with the low battery capacity being the most glaring issue for me. Though I could go on about other deficiencies with it, like even the camera app crashing at times, and some extreme lags at times. Wait for the next batch of Nexus phones and there might be something nice in there. If not, the price on the 5X will definitely drop anyway.
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Sounds like a bad app. My camera app has never crashed, no extreme lag even when my device gets super hot doing GPS navigation in the sun.
The next batch of Nexus phones are about 5 months away.

When I first got my 5X I loved it. But I've had it a month and the shine is definitely off the apple now. Here's what I've learned:
1) as a computer-type device, the 5X is great. It's quick, the screen is great, no bloatware. That's all good.
2) its battery life isn't the greatest, but it is good enough (having come from Droid MAXX and Droid RAZR MAXX, I have big battery expectations)
3) as a phone, the 5X sucks. The call quality is terrible. It is worse than I remember OLD cell phones 20 years ago being - conversations drop words and are garbled and you're constantly asking the person on the other end to repeat themselves. The volume to the ear piece when on regular calls is too quiet, even when set to maximum. On speakerphone, it is barely audible if there is any noise in your environment at all (like a fan, a tv, or other people talking).
So, while at its core, the 5X is a nice mobile computing device, it is a poor phone at best.

I get call quality equal to landline whenever the reception is good. I agree volume using the speaker for calls is too low (or sounds like a robot if you have to turn it all the way up), earpiece volume is alright.
Experiences on this device seem to vary a lot. Many faulty handsets.

Tom2112 said:
When I first got my 5X I loved it. But I've had it a month and the shine is definitely off the apple now. Here's what I've learned:
1) as a computer-type device, the 5X is great. It's quick, the screen is great, no bloatware. That's all good.
2) its battery life isn't the greatest, but it is good enough (having come from Droid MAXX and Droid RAZR MAXX, I have big battery expectations)
3) as a phone, the 5X sucks. The call quality is terrible. It is worse than I remember OLD cell phones 20 years ago being - conversations drop words and are garbled and you're constantly asking the person on the other end to repeat themselves. The volume to the ear piece when on regular calls is too quiet, even when set to maximum. On speakerphone, it is barely audible if there is any noise in your environment at all (like a fan, a tv, or other people talking).
So, while at its core, the 5X is a nice mobile computing device, it is a poor phone at best.
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The call quality is terrible, i find people are ALWAYS telling me they cannot hear me, i have to practically yell it to it

Purchasing M8 in 2018?

Hello everyone! Hope I will not cause any problem opening new thread.
I currently have htc one M9 but it is in very bad condition like case is all wrecked up, camera lens is cracked (but camera works nice) and worst of all is battery life -phone shuts down when battery level falls under 30%. I do not want to replace battery as I got it replaced last November.
Recently I got opportunity to buy M8 cheap and it is in good condition with good battery life. I'm interested to hear if you guys would recommend it to me.
I see that m8 has better xda support than m9 and that is great for me as I love to mess around with flashing new things
I do not play games on phone and I'm not heavy multitask user. I will use it for messages, calls, emails and surfing the web.
Is m8 worth getting in 2018? Or should I wait longer (probably much longer) and get htc 10 when prices gets down?

If it's super cheap then go for it.
It's a 4 years old phone, so keep in mind that its best time is long gone and the device components are probably rather worn out by now.
I'm still using it. Audio quality - speakers, headphones from jack, even the microphone - are still more than enough for normal user. Speed is also acceptable, but it won't set any new speed records.

Phalangioides said:
If it's super cheap then go for it.
It's a 4 years old phone, so keep in mind that its best time is long gone and the device components are probably rather worn out by now.
I'm still using it. Audio quality - speakers, headphones from jack, even the microphone - are still more than enough for normal user. Speed is also acceptable, but it won't set any new speed records.
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Thanks for answer. I do not doubt in sound quality. I used M7 and now M9. All of them sound great. I still have some time to make up my mind.

Yeah I bought it on feb. Still worth it. Speed is very good for a standard user. I can even play pubg mobile, asphalt etc.

WTF!? said:
Yeah I bought it on feb. Still worth it. Speed is very good for a standard user. I can even play pubg mobile, asphalt etc.
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Yeah. Speed should be similar to my m9. I'm still tempted to go for it.

Ram is less
Since the RAM is less in the M8 when compared to the M9 (M7 is the same), I would say you might get more lag than your current phone.

bradley_e_smith said:
Since the RAM is less in the M8 when compared to the M9 (M7 is the same), I would say you might get more lag than your current phone.
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That should not be a problem. I'm not a heavy user. I always use one ore two apps max at the same time and always clear recent apps when I do not need them

Buy the M8! Don't buy the 10!
Why?
10 is/has:
- to big (at least for me) with capacitive buttons placed to low. That thing breaks my fingers!
- sh!tty ringtone/notification sound. It is only coming from the bottom (bass) speaker and it sounds ugly as hell. My notification sound on M8 sounds like a clear, crispy "blirrrrr". Same sound on 10 is a dump "blurp". Also the sound volume is much more lower.
- vibration that is hardly noticable. Nothing compared to M8.
- weaker wifi than M8
- is cutting in ny finger with its chamfer
That are the main reasons for me, why my 10 is getting dusk on my table and i changed the battery, camera module and the Simcard tray that i can use my M8 again.
If you are ok with the camera, and 16 GB internal memory is enough, go for M8. And custom Rom support is still great, with well running Oreo roms.
The 10 has the better camera, but i missed a lot of notifications because of the reasons i described above, so i will sell it.

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Buy the M8! Don't buy the 10!
Why?
10 is/has:
- to big (at least for me) with capacitive buttons placed to low. That thing breaks my fingers!
- sh!tty ringtone/notification sound. It is only coming from the bottom (bass) speaker and it sounds ugly as hell. My notification sound on M8 sounds like a clear, crispy "blirrrrr". Same sound on 10 is a dump "blurp". Also the sound volume is much more lower.
- vibration that is hardly noticable. Nothing compared to M8.
- weaker wifi than M8
- is cutting in ny finger with its chamfer
That are the main reasons for me, why my 10 is getting dusk on my table and i changed the battery, camera module and the Simcard tray that i can use my M8 again.
If you are ok with the camera, and 16 GB internal memory is enough, go for M8. And custom Rom support is still great, with well running Oreo roms.
The 10 has the better camera, but i missed a lot of notifications because of the reasons i described above, so i will sell it.
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Thanks for answer. You are right about htc 10. It has a lot of disadvantages over other one m phones. Even if I want to buy 10 it is still too expensive for my budget now. I'll be getting m8 by the end of this week. It is in great condition with good battery life so that will be nice refreshment over my m9 which is almost broken. When I get m8 I'll be waiting another week or so to see how it performs (just in case something is bad and I want to return it or sell it) before I unlock bootloader and start flashing roms...

Good decision :good:
After changing the battery of my m8 i was surprised by myself, how much i missed that size and specially that sound of m8 speakers.
Never had another phone with such great speakers!!

Finally got m8. On first impressions it is way better designed then m9. Also it feels thinner. Battery last 2 days which I never got on m9.
Here is a quick comparison between them:
For the sound quality I compared them both for some time. Also compared them to m7 which is used by my sister. M9 gives best surround sound but I can't hear it at all if playing music on all three because m8 is louder. M7 is quieter than others but still very good.
Camera is great. Especially in low light conditions. M9 can't even come near but it could be because camera lens is cracked...
As for performance, I did not notice any speed drop compered to snapdragon 810 and 3GB ram on m9. Good thing is that m8 doesn't heat nowhere near like m9.
Anyway, m8 is awesome phone and I'm really happy with it... Can't wait to flash some roms or at least debloat stock one. I forgot how bloated stock roms are ?