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Is there an app that chooses your preferred Wifi connection when it's available, like at home, over your Data connection? I know the 3G iPhone has something like this and i'd like to have that happen on my HTC TyTn running CRCs 13.0 Windows 6.1.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
inbanco said:
Is there an app that chooses your preferred Wifi connection when it's available, like at home, over your Data connection? I know the 3G iPhone has something like this and i'd like to have that happen on my HTC TyTn running CRCs 13.0 Windows 6.1.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
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SPB phone suite is one! That's why I use it!
which part of their package does what i want? i've had a look at their site
i don't want all that other stuff that they offer - just the automatic detection of my home WiFi and connection to it - disconnecting my Data connection
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which part of their package does what i want? i've had a look at their site
i don't want all that other stuff that they offer - just the automatic detection of my home WiFi and connection to it - disconnecting my Data connection
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I did say 'spb phone suite'
Edit, not sure if it can be 'automated' you need to select a profile.
Mine works without having Phone suite installed.
When I'm at home I activate my Wifi - open activesync and sync my info. When done I simply close my wifi connection. When I'm on the road I just open activesync and it automatically opens my defauld data connection to sync via GSM / 3G. The process works simply enough.
DeonH said:
Mine works without having Phone suite installed.
When I'm at home I activate my Wifi - open activesync and sync my info. When done I simply close my wifi connection. When I'm on the road I just open activesync and it automatically opens my defauld data connection to sync via GSM / 3G. The process works simply enough.
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I don't like the manual part of how WM uses available Data connections. It should be able to
1. Power on and Connect to a registered WiFi accesspoint when available
2. Connect via GRPS/UMTS/HSDPA... when no registered WiFi AP is present and power off WiFi to save battery power
Nokia phones with S60 (not FP2) operating system do support this function.
See also this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422604
stealth1 said:
I don't like the manual part of how WM uses available Data connections. It should be able to
1. Power on and Connect to a registered WiFi accesspoint when available
2. Connect via GRPS/UMTS/HSDPA... when no registered WiFi AP is present and power off WiFi to save battery power
Nokia phones with S60 (not FP2) operating system do support this function.
See also this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422604
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I have mine set to turn off the wifi if no network is connected in two minutes (wireless network, power settings). Sounds like you want something that will automatically turn on wifi every time you activate your device, instead of manually choosing to turn on wifi.
Before I had the wifi set to turn off, I found that was a pain in the proverbial, as it kept telling me about networks it found that I wasn't interested in connecting to!
Anyone noticed the option for wi-fi direct ?
cant find any way to configure it
It's under more i believe.
yes but thats just a tick box to turn it on :S .. no way to configure it like the galaxy s 2
What is wifi direct?
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What is wifi direct?
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Wi-Fi Direct "is a certification mark for devices supporting a game-changing new technology enabling Wi-Fi devices to connect directly, making it simple and convenient to do things like print, share, synch and display. Products bearing the Wi-Fi Direct certification mark can connect to one another without joining a traditional home, office or hotspot network."
Sounds good to me!
yeh its great used it with GS2 to send music file in seconds .. its so fast
just want to know how to configure and use it with the nexus
Just an update.. after some digging it turns out that wifi direct in ics is just an api atm so app developers need to make use of this seemingly overlooked feature
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Just an update.. after some digging it turns out that wifi direct in ics is just an api atm so app developers need to make use of this seemingly overlooked feature
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Hmm, I wonder if Android beam uses it?
No pure NFC with NDEF messages ... next semester at university i will be doing android develpoment .. if nothing is out by then i will have a go at making an app but it doesnt look to hard i would expect someone to have done one soon
Wi-Fi Direct
Android now supports Wi-Fi Direct for peer-to-peer (P2P) connections between Android-powered devices and other device types without a hotspot or Internet connection. The Android framework provides a set of Wi-Fi P2P APIs that allow you to discover and connect to other devices when each device supports Wi-Fi Direct, then communicate over a speedy connection across distances much longer than a Bluetooth connection.
A new package, android.net.wifi.p2p, contains all the APIs for performing peer-to-peer connections with Wi-Fi. The primary class you need to work with is WifiP2pManager, which you can acquire by calling getSystemService(WIFI_P2P_SERVICE). The WifiP2pManager includes APIs that allow you to:
Initialize your application for P2P connections by calling initialize()
Discover nearby devices by calling discoverPeers()
Start a P2P connection by calling connect()
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WiFi direct work like this
Turn it on
Thats easy
Ok
Now go to your laptop open up wirless networks and do a scan
and hello there is a Phone now showing up click connect
now on your phone a message will pop up saying a computer is tring to connect and asking you to say ok or cancel
say ok
Now your laptop is connected
Now open up xplorer on your laptop click networks and you will have two showing and your phone will be one of them double click on the phone this open up the phone just like in mass storage mode
Now to go the other way eg phone to pc that is the tricky bit
as the stock brouser sucks on android
You need es file exploer and do a lan scan and the laptop will show as a name click it and a message will show on the laptop or it will just open up the shared folders section
It only works on windows 7
for all its the old Ad hoc idea made simple
Northern, that didn't work for me, but my PC doesn't has got WiFi direct, so that might be a problem.
Anyways, I tried to use WiFi direct with my bother's SGS2, and we weren't being able to get it working properly. I tried the Android WiFi direct demo app, which was able to connect using WiFi direct, but I wasn't being able to send photo's. The S2 had an extra menu for configuring WiFi direct(TouchWiz)
Anyone that has got WiFi direct working on his Galaxy Nexus?
Is there any apps based on wi-fi direct?
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Is there any apps based on wi-fi direct?
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Not yet, working on it
same problem ...
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
It is very sad, that Google didn't finished it yet Is it so hard to make it work for us ? From my point of view we have been cheated
U HAVE TO USE 3TH PARTY APPS
FileExpert on the market does it
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Well file expert needs an access point in order to transfer files and the phone that you want to transfer file must have file expert too.. which is just wireless sharing not wifi direct though..
My Sony Bravia got WIFI Direct too. I tried to connect my GN with it. TV did find the phone. Connected too. But then just kept dropping off the connection.
Did anybody tried it out with a TV?
I noticed it on my sister's GS2, tried it out, her phone can see mine, but i can't seem to find the wifi direct settings for my gnex.
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Well file expert needs an access point in order to transfer files and the phone that you want to transfer file must have file expert too.. which is just wireless sharing not wifi direct though..
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yes.... no wifi direct on file expert...
maverickrulz said:
My Sony Bravia got WIFI Direct too. I tried to connect my GN with it. TV did find the phone. Connected too. But then just kept dropping off the connection.
Did anybody tried it out with a TV?
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I noticed it on my sister's GS2, tried it out, her phone can see mine, but i can't seem to find the wifi direct settings for my gnex.
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as you can see, google/android gave us the api, but not the interface to manage this...
but released a piece o code to compile a demo app 'wifi direct'.... i do not have other wifi direct enabled device... and i don't tryied this yet... but, here is the sample:
https://www.box.com/s/728c598a466c6822cc94
let me know if it work (p.s. not compiled by me... i only found it on the web )
Hello, I updated my Moto 360 to the new version which enables wifi support and I have a weird problem, when I disconnect my phone bluetooth and wifi and enable wifi on moto 360 I notice that I don't get notifications for mails, facebook messages, tweets etc also voice commands won't work, but I can browse webpages with android wear internet browser.
Am I missing something ?
Isn't the whole idea of wifi support to be able to use the watch autonomously ?
If not by Bluetooth, your watch must still be on the same network as your phone to get notifications from your phone. You need to turn WiFi on your phone back on.
Hey RoyJ thanks for your reply, I see so the phone gets a notifications then pushes it to the watch via wifi, that's a shame, let's hope in a future update where the device would function autonomously without a phone.
Noticed the same thing. What I have found is that Bluetooth needs to be on regardless of whether the watch is connected to the phone or not. It is as if it is a switch to tell the android wear app whether or not to forward notifications. I can personally confirm that you do not need to be on the same WiFi network. I had my paired phone in my car at work with WiFi off and my phone connected to a hotspot I created with another phone and received all the notifications on my watch.
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Also from what I read, voice commands might not work on WiFi, just notifications.
I've set this up according to Google's support page and can confirm that my Moto 360 connects to WiFi when out of range of the phone. However, it still remains disconnected from the phone, even though both phone and watch are using the same WiFi. The little cloud symbol with the line through it never disappears and none of the connected features work. As soon as I move back into range of the phone it switches back to bluetooth and reconnects again. So the switching to WiFi part is working OK, it just fails to communicate with the phone over WiFi. It's a Nexus 6, if that's relevant.
Any ideas?
EDIT: Never mind, it appears to be because the phone is using IPv6 but the watch only supports IPv4, oddly. If I force the phone to use IPv4 it works.
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EDIT: Never mind, it appears to be because the phone is using IPv6 but the watch only supports IPv4, oddly. If I force the phone to use IPv4 it works.
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Really? Isn't IPv4 kicking the bucket officially real soon like?
I can't get this working either. I have no idea why the phone's bluetooth or IPv6 should make any difference at all for this feature. It's supposed to use the cloud, and as long as the phone and watch have a connection to the internet then it should work.......right?
Unfortunately it's the sort of feature that I will disable unless it is truly reliable. And so far I can't even get it to work at all, so it's only reliable in it's ability to connect to a wifi network and drain the battery.
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I can't get this working either. I have no idea why the phone's bluetooth or IPv6 should make any difference at all for this feature. It's supposed to use the cloud, and as long as the phone and watch have a connection to the internet then it should work.......right?
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No, that is NOT how it works. Your watch is a slave to your phone regardless of the WiFi feature; WiFi just gives you a longer leash. I'ts HIGHLY unlikely that the current iteration of Android Wear will allow you to "leave home without your phone" as someone suggested above. It's just not how it was designed, nor how Google envisions it. If that's what you want, you're best looking outside of Android Wear and into some of the fringe wearables that actually act as mobile devices.
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No, that is NOT how it works. Your watch is a slave to your phone regardless of the WiFi feature; WiFi just gives you a longer leash. I'ts HIGHLY unlikely that the current iteration of Android Wear will allow you to "leave home without your phone" as someone suggested above. It's just not how it was designed, nor how Google envisions it. If that's what you want, you're best looking outside of Android Wear and into some of the fringe wearables that actually act as mobile devices.
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But Google's own descriptions of the Android Wear wifi feature states this:
If your watch has Wi-Fi, your watch can automatically connect to saved Wi-Fi networks when it loses the Bluetooth connection with your phone. This lets your watch and phone to automatically stay synced at any distance over the Internet. That way you can get notifications and use voice search on your watch throughout your home and work when you leave your phone in a different room.
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Operative words being "This lets your watch and phone stay synced at any distance over the internet". Are you telling me that "any distance over the internet" actually means "only as far as your local wifi network covers"?
It also states "Could Sync" must be turned on for wifi to work. Why would I need a feature called "Cloud Sync" if it's not designed to sync over the cloud?
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But Google's own descriptions of the Android Wear wifi feature states this:
Operative words being "This lets your watch and phone stay synced at any distance over the internet". Are you telling me that "any distance over the internet" actually means "only as far as your local wifi network covers"?
It also states "Could Sync" must be turned on for wifi to work. Why would I need a feature called "Cloud Sync" if it's not designed to sync over the cloud?
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Imagine you could connect to many WiFi locations as long as you already connected and saved those WiFi locations. But a WiFi only tablet can't connect at all times, how can you expect your watch to?
Here's what I have found:
My setup: Nexus 6 with Moto 360 5.1.1
On WiFi (same network) - BT off, I can receive texts, reply to texts, send texts. Once I turn off the WiFi on my phone, I no longer get notifications because the phone no longer knows where the phone is to send the notifications to. I think that makes sense. As others have said, the watch is always slave to the phone, however it is connected - WiFi or BT. But I do think that it was not designed to be independent of the phone, so you can't simply leave your phone at home and go out and expect to have notifications even if the watch is connected on WiFi.
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Here's what I have found:
My setup: Nexus 6 with Moto 360 5.1.1
On WiFi (same network) - BT off, I can receive texts, reply to texts, send texts. Once I turn off the WiFi on my phone, I no longer get notifications because the phone no longer knows where the phone is to send the notifications to. I think that makes sense. As others have said, the watch is always slave to the phone, however it is connected - WiFi or BT. But I do think that it was not designed to be independent of the phone, so you can't simply leave your phone at home and go out and expect to have notifications even if the watch is connected on WiFi.
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I don't understand why "slave" would require the watch and phone to be on the same network. If the data is synced via the Cloud then the watch can still operate as a slave, meaning it will receive but not generate notifications.
Furthermore, it still doesn't explain why Google states that this wifi feature allows us to "stay synced at any distance over the internet", and why they state that the wifi feature requires the Cloud Sync feature to be enabled. if Cloud Sync is not meant to sync notifications over the cloud, then what exactly IS being sync'd over the cloud?
When you set up the watch, you have to pair it via BT using the phone. That authenticates the watch hardware with your account on your phone. If the phone and watch are not on the same network, how would your watch authenticate against your account? It's not like there's any account login option for the watch itself, hence it slaved to your phone on the same WiFi network. Since the watch has no real input options other than voice and swiping, there's no way to authenticate your watch to your account. I think it's wise that they set it up this way, albeit, a bit confusing how they worded the WiFi capabilities.
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When you set up the watch, you have to pair it via BT using the phone. That authenticates the watch hardware with your account on your phone. If the phone and watch are not on the same network, how would your watch authenticate against your account? It's not like there's any account login option for the watch itself, hence it slaved to your phone on the same WiFi network. Since the watch has no real input options other than voice and swiping, there's no way to authenticate your watch to your account. I think it's wise that they set it up this way, albeit, a bit confusing how they worded the WiFi capabilities.
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Ok, putting aside the confusing language in Google's own description (that no one can explain), let me simplify my question: What is Cloud Sync?
Btw, authentication could be taken care of with a token. That would be generated by the Cloud and sent to the phone when the Cloud Sync feature is first enabled, and would be sent to the watch initially via BT and then used to authenticate the watch to the Cloud whenever needed. Token would be invalidated by the Cloud if/when Cloud Sync is disabled on the phone (for example, if the watch is stolen). This is roughly how I expected it to work. If somehow the watch and phone need to be on the same wifi network then this feature is 90% useless IMO, and Google's description is very misleading.
I stand corrected. I think it does work the way you suggest, but not 100%.
I connected my watch to my other phone's hotspot and am able to send/receive texts and emails to my watch. I turned off WiFi on my phone as well as the BT. It takes a while for it to connect and I assume authenticate using a token.
After a while though, like just now, I received a text on my watch but couldn't reply to it, the watching saying "Sorry that didn't work, try again".
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I stand corrected. I think it does work the way you suggest, but not 100%.
I connected my watch to my other phone's hotspot and am able to send/receive texts and emails to my watch. I turned off WiFi on my phone as well as the BT. It takes a while for it to connect and I assume authenticate using a token.
After a while though, like just now, I received a text on my watch but couldn't reply to it, the watching saying "Sorry that didn't work, try again".
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Cool, thanks for testing this. Now if I can get my own watch to work then I'll be happy
By the way, the diagram at the bottom of this page seems to confirm that the watch should be able to sync notification data with the Cloud without any direct connectivity to the phone:
http://developer.android.com/training/wearables/data-layer/index.html
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Really? Isn't IPv4 kicking the bucket officially real soon like?
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The moto 360 doesn't support ipv6 that's for sure. But really that's a non issue, as far as them shutting down ipv4 it won't be for a long time. At least longer than the life cycle of the moto 360 anyways. The Ipv6 adoption is only more prevalent in the U. S. for the most part.
Also as far as a phone using ipv6 only I'm sure Google has some sort of protocol like NAT64 boxes in order for ipv6 to talk to ipv4 so it shouldn't matter if your phone is using ipv6 (but of course I could be wrong about that I'm just making that assumption they do have some sort of protocol to handle that)
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The moto 360 doesn't support ipv6 that's for sure. But really that's a non issue, as far as them shutting down ipv4 it won't be for a long time. At least longer than the life cycle of the moto 360 anyways. The Ipv6 adoption is only more prevalent in the U. S. for the most part.
Also as far as a phone using ipv6 only I'm sure Google has some sort of protocol like NAT64 boxes in order for ipv6 to talk to ipv4 so it shouldn't matter if your phone is using ipv6 (but of course I could be wrong about that I'm just making that assumption they do have some sort of protocol to handle that)
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I am pretty sure that the phone and watch do not talk to each other directly over wifi so this IPv4-IPV6 mismatch should be a non-issue provided each one of them can reach the internet.
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I am pretty sure that the phone and watch do not talk to each other directly over wifi so this IPv4-IPV6 mismatch should be a non-issue provided each one of them can reach the internet.
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Yes absolutely true. I meant to word the second paragraph in my statement in a way in which I meant suppose ipv4 was shut down in the near future I'm sure Google has someway to communicate with legacy devices so notifications could still be pushed to the watch. Hope that clarifies things.
I need this fairly often. I have a current need to upgrade a wifi camera that needs to be connected to its inhouse mobile app with internet access at the same time.
I have other needs for this. I have devices on local networks that do not have internet. These devices are remote controllable over ip, but i have to give up internet on my phone. I have had previous phones work in this application.
-Developer option "mobile data always active" has no effect, rebooted to be sure
-I have NEVER had any smart Wi-Fi switcher wifi setting suit my needs. Same today
-not rooted
-Oxygen 5.1.3 8.1 OREO
Todd
Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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Hello one more time team
Here I'm reporting another annoying bug with my device
I have tried many time to create or make a 5ghz hotspot work
My external devices can see others 5ghz network but even when i create it with the RM5S, It is not visible.
I have done a network reset on the phone, check and unchecked the "support 6th generation" option in the tethering options and it just does not work
2.4ghz works fine
I have reported the issue via ticket but I guess will not be solved as my previous tickets
Anyone with the same issue?
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some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
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some countries do not allow the use of personal 5g wifi tethering. its possible you live in one of these countries? the feature is blocked on the rom if you are in a country that does not allow it.
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Hey Patrick
Thanks again for your answer
I read about that limitation in a oneplus forum but I don't really know how to check that.
Actually, i can add something to my issue
While i am reporting the hotspot issue, i must said i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont want to confuse you
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
So, going back to the original issue, i am not sure if it is a country restriction. I usually live.in Hungary but i am now in poland and i received the device on this last country.
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
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Hey Patrick
i am able to share a "connected" wifi using the 5ghz band WHEN (Sorry for the big letters) in use an app called "vpn hotspot"
I dont need the vpn hotspot app to create a normal hotspot. But the default settings of RM ROM does not let me create the 5ghz connection.
When i connect to a 5ghz router at home, i can "create" another wifi 5ghz network using "vpn hotspot" app (i usually do this cause i need a vpn network for many devices)
The main problem is with mobile data. When i am not at home, the vpn hotspot app does "IS NOT" allowed to modify the system settings for the hotspot created by the rom, it only replicates the original setup and bypass the VPN traffic
I would even wonder how to create the hotspot using the wifi 6 standard as it should be supported as well.
Thanks for the feedback
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sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
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sounds like the VPN software you're using is interfering with the creation of the hotspot.
if the 5g hotspot wifi works as intended using the normal hotspot settings on the phone without the VPN, then it would make sense that its the VPN app thats causing the issue.
I can create and use both 2.4g and 5g wifi hotspots, sharing my Mobile network. it works correctly. i do use DNS 66 to block adverts but thats the only VPN type software i use, and its only for black listing adverts and inbedded video adverts on sites.
so test the hotspot settings with the normal phone settings with the VPN off or uninstalled. - if this works correctly. the problem is with your VPN software. you would need to contact support for that app.
some devices do not work with wifi 6 option enabled. turning it off may increase connectivity issues.
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Well. I know there was going to be some confusion.
The hotspot does not work with 5ghz even without vpn.
When i use my home wifi, I connect from my phone (no mobile data) to my vpn provider and then with another app, "vpn hotspot" (root required) i can share the vpn traffic to external devices via hotspot. When I do these steps sometimes 5ghz works, and i say sometimes cause I left the "vpn hotspot" wifi setting as default. I might change some network options there but, those options are not available for hotspot within "vpn hotspot" this is why i am blaming the ROM, But maybe you are right and there is some interference between apps. I will try to flush the settings one more time
I have flushed the rules of the vpn hotspot app and tried again. Working fine with and without vpn!
Thanks
I see.
You are trying to filter your wifi connection at home through your phones wifi and share thst connection to other wifi devices.
I dont believe it will work correctly. you're essentially trying to create a wifi repeater.
You're making your wifi chip do 2 things, and its unable to run two streams at the same time.
It state in the Hotspot settings
" Use hotspot to provide internet to other devices through your mobile data"
If you want to connect to your home wifi with your phone, and share thst connection with another device you must use USB tethering.
You risk causing damage to your wifi chip trying to force two connections on it.
using repeater apps, does cause the signal strength to degrade, (bacause you're using the same antenna to receive your home wifi and to create its own wifi. limiting the bandwith and can cause connection issues over time.
the wifi chips in android phone can create a repeating wifi signal, but they're not made to do it. normally as stock android runs when you enable wifi hotspot, it stops the current wifi connecting to create a new wifi access point. using apps to get around that may cause issues and even damage as i stated above. if your wifi chip breaks due to improper use, it will need a warranty return.