Your next phone? - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, here is the question, "what will be your next phone and why". I think i will stay with sony for a bit longer. Its my 2nd sonys phone in the row, previous was xperia t im using her also and probably next will be xperia x. What would be your choice at this moment, regards

I've been looking at the M5 over the Z5C. Why?
- I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen for doing more reading on the move
- The camera seems to be near-equal to the Z5C
- Much better front camera for selfies. I have a kid. This is important, laugh as you may.
- Dual SIM sounds very useful for travelling. I travel internationally ever year.
- The screen is 1080p instead of 720p.
- Much better price
The M5 seems to have a widely acknowledged issue with it randomly shutting down, so I wouldn't buy one without a local Sony warranty, as it requires servicing to fix by the sounds of it.

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[Q] Will you upgrade to a SONY smartphone next year ?

Just want to know how many Arc owners are looking forward to a SONY smartphone next year and how many have planned to move away
SEFanX10i said:
Just want to know how many Arc owners are looking forward to a SONY smartphone next year and how many have planned to move away
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Well it depends on how good the phone will be!
Yeah...reminds me..this phone could be the last product from Sony Ericsson..
Next time will be SONY.
hope there is flips phones...misses my old SO 905i
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it will be new design, exmor r will stay, definately will go if i have some spare bucks at the time it goes out
I will most certainly have a Sony next time, but only if Sony follows the recent trend.
Had almost all other brands recently. HTC, LG, SAMSUNG even Nexus S and the Arc pleases me the most!
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I think Sony will develop their smartphone integrated with all of their products.
Just wish that they would made it special. and of course with their excellent camera. or maybe like HTC that works with monster beat
Come to papa o xperia DUO~
my hope is:
a walkman with great audio quality.
a cybershot with xenon flash.
true psp phone.
-or Xperia arc 2nd gen with dual/quad core,hd display,and still same arc design with front camera.
or my expectations are too high ?
I will probably get another, I wasn't going to stay with them but when you look at what the devs here have achieved, along with S.E's recognition of users wanting the ability to be able to mod their phones, there's already good times ahead.
From My Arc Running CyanogenMod.7.1
All I want is the Xperia Arc with Duo core and front face camera...
I hope SE continues making phones with great designs but with dual core processors.
I think its performance will be much better this coming year.
i want same design as arc, with dual core cpu (non tegra 2!) 1Gb ram, front facing camera, and headphone jack on top of device and a better camera. the camera on the arc really is not that special.....Maybe has something to do with severe compression on SE's software.
I'll nevr evr take SE again
°_°
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yes ofcourse ,, why not take Sony again?!
If I could afford a new phone and Sony keeps the same design philosophy, I would buy the Nozomi. They SE phone might not have the best specs, but they do have the best design.
Phones are like cars IMO: you buy them for the logo. If you buy a SE, you make a statement: you think that design is important.
It depends on whether what was Sony-Ericsson now begin to behave like Sony typically do, i.e. lock down everything, treat your customers as if theyre thieves, etc.
Even if they dont i'm still not sure i'd feel entirely comfortable giving money to a corporation that treats its customers with such contempt. I will admit to a certain amount of cognitive dissonance in convincing myself that it was okay to buy a Sony-Ericsson phone because theyre a separate company from sony (even if sony were part owners, it was still independent in terms of management, board etc) but at least SE were unlocking bootloaders and supporting CM at a time when, say, HTC, were starting to lock everything down.
But if SE are now just another part of the sony hierarchy, and are subject to the same paranoid psychotic management decisions that drive much of their product development, then i dont see their phones remaining attractive to me for too long, regardless of how nice their hardware is.
jumptailo said:
Come to papa o xperia DUO~
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I was going to keep hold of my x10 until a dual core with decent RAM turned up, but dropped it and shattered the digitizer 4days after my contract ended and a free arc s was too much to say no to...
Perfect device would be:
Arc S design/size but in nicer materials (say carbon shell and aluminium)
Quad core and lots of RAM.. Add in cyanogen and I'll be happy as a pig in ....
My ARC S will probably be the last Android phone I own. I'll be looking at Windows phones for my next one, as I want and need a phone that intergrates fully into a corporate environment.
For instance, not being able to use a WiFi proxy without rooting your phone and installing third-party apps is ridiculous.
I LOVE android, and the ARC S is great, but the OS is so hard to use in a work environment.
myil said:
All I want is the Xperia Arc with Duo core and front face camera...
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And 1080p Video?
Depends on how the phone will be.
If they don't add the old build quality + sd card slots in the new devices I might move, even if I'm a big fan of Sony Ericsson, well Sony then.
Will decide when the phones are out
And we have 6 months or more months left to decide
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[Q] Sony Ion or Samsung S3 ?

I'm thinking to buy either an Ion or an S3. Have anybody (on the forum) compared them side by side? I've seen few reviews and they all say the S3 is better overall compared to the Ion. For example:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-ion-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III_id3063
I was playing with the S3 today and really liked it. I tried later the Ion (just very briefly) and dragging the top notification bar seemed slower. The rest of the performance looked about the same. I didn't get to try the camera or any apps on the Ion
I like that the Ion's screen is a bit smaller (although the phone is ticker)
Are there any signal issues on either phone (gsm/lte/wifi/gps)?
I will most likely put a custom rom on either phone. Probably S3 might have a better support for that (more devs). I want to get the Ion but the more I read about it the more I see I should go with the S3 (the 100$ extra is not an issue at all for me)
Somebody else already asked this question here but the responses are not very informative
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734898
bestivo said:
I'm thinking to buy either an Ion or an S3. Have anybody (on the forum) compared them side by side? I've seen few reviews and they all say the S3 is better overall compared to the Ion. For example:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-ion-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III_id3063
I was playing with the S3 today and really liked it. I tried later the Ion (just very briefly) and dragging the top notification bar seemed slower. The rest of the performance looked about the same. I didn't get to try the camera or any apps on the Ion
I like that the Ion's screen is a bit smaller (although the phone is ticker)
Are there any signal issues on either phone (gsm/lte/wifi/gps)?
I will most likely put a custom rom on either phone. Probably S3 might have a better support for that (more devs). I want to get the Ion but the more I read about it the more I see I should go with the S3 (the 100$ extra is not an issue at all for me)
Somebody else already asked this question here but the responses are not very informative
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734898
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While I have compared the two phones, and I like the look & feel of the Ion more than the S3.
When most people downgrade the ion vs the S3 they complain about gingerbread. Which isn't a issue in my book. My issue is the battery more than anything else. I like having a stand bye battery, and I cannot do that with the ion. Then there are the potential freezing that can occur, and if you don't know how to do the hard reset that can be scary.
The mic is better on the S3 as well.
I am waiting on the xperia gx (basically the ion with a removable battery).

I'm gonna buy this or Z3 Compact. Honest opinion?

Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
Go for the Z1C!
In my opinion the difference is minor, but the price is much higer.
Xavali7 said:
Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
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I think this is something you only know the answer for, here is a detailed video that explains the differences between the two devices :
Though, if I were you, I'd go for Z3 Compact as a device (even after looking to the price)
but, if I wan't to chose in terms of software, I think I'd go with Z1 Compact
cuz I believe not many users that already have Z1c (like me) would wonna switch to the almost the same Z3c!
which means no devs are gonna be there as well
So as I said, your personal needs control what decision you should make
Regards,
Omar.
Z1c. As previously stated not much difference (bigger display, faster CPU, 4k video) but much higher price.
Best regards,
Coempi
as z1c owner, i would pay the difference for z3c.
the display size and dual speakers win it for me as major improvements in my eyes.
huge downside z3c cant be rooted with locked bootloader, you must unlock BL to root :/
i would go for the z3 compact if i never bought my z1 compact because of the ps4 remote play and daulshock 4 compatibility
If money is not a problem, go for Z3c all the way.
But if you consider the extra money Z3c asks for, then by buying the Z1c you won't feel really bad, the differences are minor in my opinion. Of course a bigger screen in the same body and a bigger battery would be welcome, but I don't think they are important enough to justify the price difference.
Buy the Z3c . It's better than the Z1c, but that does not mean the z1c is bad.
I think the z3c is worth the cost of the upgrade, but as a z1c owner I will not upgrade unless sony changes their policy on unlocking wrt DRM keys, or someone finds an exploit. Root isn't optional for me, but I'm not willing to tank my camera performance to get it, so I'm sticking with my z1c until something comes along in this form factor that is better and also non-destructively root-able.
Z1 compact owner here:
If you already have a Z1c = don't get the Z3c
If you don't already have a Z1c = get the Z3c
Quite simple brah
there is 2 issues with the camera on z1 compact.
1) LED bled, and black marker made it ugly on my white phone.
2) My camera freeze once in a while. And recently, it freeze when i try to take consecutive shots. (First shot ok, 2nd shot freeze)
Get the z3. And z3 has double tap to wake. I doubt ps4 game would look nice on such small screen though.
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
Xavali7 said:
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Yes don't worry Sony has promised to bring official Lolipop to Z1 Compact alongside with the rest of Z family (in next the February or so)
also, Z1 Compact will get official Lolipop support from many AOSP-Based ROMs, as soon as CyanogenMod team do so
As I mentioned no worries about software for Z1C, it should get more custom support than Z3C ever will
Regards,
Omar.
Not a worthy phone to buy for Rs.15,000 more
Me too was confused between z1c and z3c
But after a lot of searching and review,i decided to go for z1c
I could go for z3c if sony priced it less.
The sales man tried to convinced me to buy z3c,then i convinced him
Go for the white version gud luck
The main problem now is z3c needs unlock BL to get root so you will loss warranty and some of Sony features. If you need root or want to backup your TA before unlock BL, Z1c is more recommended.
There are many good stuffs on z3c like better battery life(bcoz of s801), a bit bigger screen, dual front speaker and 4K recording w/ video stabilization(our 4K mod no stabilization), a bit better camera focus and more light weight.
But z1c is really good for its lower price and the looking is better because of metal bumper it looks like more a premium design and I think the LED notification is also better on z1c.

Is Z5 Premium the right choice for me?

Hi everyone, so last month I decided to switch from iPhone 6 Plus(16GB) to an Android phone. I'm just tired of Apple and iOS, no further comments. To begin I watch lots of movies and some TV shows, I'm thinking about a phone with a big more-than-FHD-resolution screen. As far as I see Z5 Premium is a great choice despite the hardware, and it has a MicroSD slot, which is pretty important for me. On the other hand 6P's screen is better than the iPhone 6 Plus, but not as good as Z5 Premium and has no MicroSD slot; I don't understand why Google hates removable storage... Although the software support for 6P is great, and we all are aware of Sony's software update policy. I am also hyped for the new HTC Nexus, but like I said big screen, high resolution(preferably more than FHD) and microSD(unless 64GB+) are the features I consider until the release of the next gen Nexus phone. So I don't want to wait for nothing. I'm not a phone gamer and hardware doesn't have to be superb. Last thing to add is that I've been doing ISS spotting, and in terms of camera performance, I would like to have a phone with high ISO values, and high MP. I know I want a lot from a smartphone, and Z5 Premium seems to be more suitable for my needs. But the question here is should I wait for the next Nexus Phone, or should I go with Z5 Premium. I would be much appreciated if you post ANY opinions. Lastly I would like to say that the reason why I open this thread to the Z5 forums is that I feel closer to the Z5P. Thank you all and excuse my errors if there's any.
Looks like you've done quite a bit of research on what you want. My question is where those the only fones you considered? See www.gsmarena.com for a whole lot more that might also suit you. Now I have a Z5P and it might be the last Sony fone I get. It is good, but the rate of updates is slow, the route to root is painful but I am enjoying it.
My 2 pence worth...
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guhvanoh said:
Looks like you've done quite a bit of research on what you want. My question is where those the only fones you considered? See [gsmarena link] for a whole lot more that might also suit you. Now I have a Z5P and it might be the last Sony fone I get. It is good, but the rate of updates is slow, the route to root is painful but I am enjoying it.
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My only concern is the update speed of all Xperia phones. I know there are tons of other solutions, but I think I will stick to either Sony, or Nexus. I LOVE Nexus and I think I will wait and see the 2016 Nexus, if it has a decent camera I will go with it otherwise Z5P...
TYRTlive said:
My only concern is the update speed of all Xperia phones. I know there are tons of other solutions, but I think I will stick to either Sony, or Nexus. I LOVE Nexus and I think I will wait and see the 2016 Nexus, if it has a decent camera I will go with it otherwise Z5P...
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Sony has proved to be somewhat slow in updating. I've only just got the April security patch level but it is for LL 6.0.1. The Z5P is a very good fone, you'll enjoy it if you get one.
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Answering you I like Trying summing up a good nice novel! .. where to start? well let me answer in Bullets, keeping your impressive research in perspective. ( keep in mind i am diehard xperia fan, and current on my 6th Xperia device z5p E6833)
1. Z5P comes with 128GB support for SD card, i have 32gb installed. classtype10 toshiba
2. Sony updates are usually later (than sooner). but i like their ROMS interface. keep it simple and to the point policy
3. Z5p has GREAT sharp HD screen and viewing angles are amazing. you can actually read text even from 30degree angle.
4. but in general ~ The maximum display brightness in Z5 Premium is a little lower when comparing to Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. The maximum display brightness of Z5 Premium is 600cd while it's 700cd in Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. Also the Z5p reduces brightness further when the device temperature rises specially OUTDOORS. (especially summer).
5. z5p has GOOD battery life! compare to other big screen fones, lasts 2 days (1day if 4g browsing with hd movies)
6. z5p are difficult to root (since you are coming from iphone. i would suggest you to please do a bit research about ROOTING android devices (models to models) and android versions to version. ROOTING z5p is one tricky. the question you should ask WHY ROOTING? and based on that criteria consider it one of the third option in your criteria list of 1. screen size 2. hd 3. rooting before buying any device.
7. GOOGLE Android MM has dm-verity (security feature ) which make sure your device is not tampered in terms of software and it does not boot if any one had tried fooling iwth your device (changing boot etc). on TOP of that , sony has SONY-RIC since years which make sure NO one tries to tamper RUNNING ANDROID (rooting/etc) and SONY-RIC shutsoff the device (or reboots) whenever any software tried exploiting system vulnerabilities to gain ROOT ACCESS.
THE BOTH FEATURE COMPBINED in z5p, make device heavy on RAM.
if you like SONY z5p. you should give it a try. also based on your criteria the following two devices you should CONSIDER (at least looking at, or going to mall holding in hands for hands-on experience)
1. Xperia XA performance ( 6.0" screen HD, but batterlife is below average)
2. LG V10
YasuHamed said:
Answering you I like Trying summing up a good nice novel! .. where to start? well let me answer in Bullets, keeping your impressive research in perspective. ( keep in mind i am diehard xperia fan, and current on my 6th Xperia device z5p E6833)
1. Z5P comes with 128GB support for SD card, i have 32gb installed. classtype10 toshiba
2. Sony updates are usually later (than sooner). but i like their ROMS interface. keep it simple and to the point policy
3. Z5p has GREAT sharp HD screen and viewing angles are amazing. you can actually read text even from 30degree angle.
4. but in general ~ The maximum display brightness in Z5 Premium is a little lower when comparing to Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. The maximum display brightness of Z5 Premium is 600cd while it's 700cd in Z3+, Z5 and Z5 Compact. Also the Z5p reduces brightness further when the device temperature rises specially OUTDOORS. (especially summer).
5. z5p has GOOD battery life! compare to other big screen fones, lasts 2 days (1day if 4g browsing with hd movies)
6. z5p are difficult to root (since you are coming from iphone. i would suggest you to please do a bit research about ROOTING android devices (models to models) and android versions to version. ROOTING z5p is one tricky. the question you should ask WHY ROOTING? and based on that criteria consider it one of the third option in your criteria list of 1. screen size 2. hd 3. rooting before buying any device.
7. GOOGLE Android MM has dm-verity (security feature ) which make sure your device is not tampered in terms of software and it does not boot if any one had tried fooling iwth your device (changing boot etc). on TOP of that , sony has SONY-RIC since years which make sure NO one tries to tamper RUNNING ANDROID (rooting/etc) and SONY-RIC shutsoff the device (or reboots) whenever any software tried exploiting system vulnerabilities to gain ROOT ACCESS.
THE BOTH FEATURE COMPBINED in z5p, make device heavy on RAM.
if you like SONY z5p. you should give it a try. also based on your criteria the following two devices you should CONSIDER (at least looking at, or going to mall holding in hands for hands-on experience)
1. Xperia XA performance ( 6.0" screen HD, but batterlife is below average)
2. LG V10
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Thanks for your reply! Actually I have an old s5830i, and I have a general knowledge of Android ecosystem. But my intention is not to make the warranty void in the first day. I know Z5p has a very good screen, and the market is full of similar devices right now. But I think I will be waiting for this years Nexus release, and decide considering those phones.
TYRTlive said:
Thanks for your reply! Actually I have an old s5830i, and I have a general knowledge of Android ecosystem. But my intention is not to make the warranty void in the first day. I know Z5p has a very good screen, and the market is full of similar devices right now. But I think I will be waiting for this years Nexus release, and decide considering those phones.
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Nexus 7 wont have sdslot
http://bgr.com/2016/08/10/googles-new-nexus-phones-will-be-just-as-fast-as-the-galaxy-note-7/
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Nexus 7 wont have sdslot
http://bgr.com/2016/08/10/googles-new-nexus-phones-will-be-just-as-fast-as-the-galaxy-note-7/
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I saw that coming... But I don't think I would need an SD card if 128GB version is cheap. I will wait and see just to make sure about my choice. I hope they are going to release it sooner this year(compared to Nexus 5X and 6P release)
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I saw that coming... But I don't think I would need an SD card if 128GB version is cheap. I will wait and see just to make sure about my choice. I hope they are going to release it sooner this year(compared to Nexus 5X and 6P release)
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I'm not trying to throw a spanner in your works but Nexus has been getting more expensive with the new iterations. I see you're going to wait. That's good. Enjoy whichever device you do end up with.
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I'm not trying to throw a spanner in your works but Nexus has been getting more expensive with the new iterations. I see you're going to wait. That's good. Enjoy whichever device you do end up with.
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perhaps he should consider buying oneplus3 ...
Z5P is great, the community is great, the sony default rom is great, camera is great, everything is gr8.
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Sony Xperia XA1 Ultra is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hii to all new xpera xa1 ultra owners and Hii to all of you reading this and want to buy the phone
Well, I give to it a 5 star
Why?
I have had a lot of phones, this one gives me when I hold it the WoW effect..
Yes it looks good, it feels premium and it is good.
But, you will get a very, very good phone all over all..
BUT, there is a overall bad thing..
Just google or even search on xda..the hole xperia X series has NOT or POOR custom rom support
That means..overall love its ok and very good phone but if you like to flash roms.. don't buy it..
The only xperia from the X series wich got sort of rom support is the Xperia X performace one..
That means....if you want even any sony phone
Look first and I mean FIRST on the official sony bootloader unlock page..
If that model is unlockable..
If not..dont evan go for that too...
It must be able from sony to get bootloader unlocked...
After that google and search on XDA for your phone..not only for xperia..
If it has good roms..
IF not..buy LG, Buy Pixel.. or what ever has support on xda..
I got this phone but I did not do this research..
Now I am stuck and can not even have root..
My bootloader is locked..
That means I am stuck with all stock not to flash anything..
Even no ROOT..
I like to flash..so this makes me dissapointed a bit..
The only workarround is to change allways to different launchers if you like to change
the looks..but if something to tweak..or need root access you will not have it..
But that still does not change my feelings to give this phone 5 star..
Thanks for reading
Hope it helped someone
Sony should done proper QA on the Canadian version of this phone. It is plague with tons of bugs which rander the phone usless.
Great at first , problems now.
I purchased my US version Xperia XA1 about 5 months ago , new from Best Buy. There are several reasons to like the Xperia. 1. Large bright sharp screen , 2. Good speed, 3. Plenty of storage , 4. Good battery life. I really liked this phone before the recent (3) Sony updates. Now my touch screen stops working from time to time, a quick screen off and on works to solve the problem. The worst is now when I take a call and hold the phone to my ear the screen does not go off. So my ear touching the screen launches system setting and apps. CRAZY when you finish the call you have to close everything. Another gripe is that the updates are not past Android 7.0, one would think that on such a new phone that the past three updates would be at least 7.1. Other minor issues are surprisingly the camera quality. It is very hit and miss depending on the light and if you use advance settings. For quick shots the photos are just okay to just plain bad. The video recording is not bad but the audio levels in the recording are low. The prices have dropped quite a lot since I purchased my Sony but I would not buy it again if I had a do-over.

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