Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
Go for the Z1C!
In my opinion the difference is minor, but the price is much higer.
Xavali7 said:
Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
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I think this is something you only know the answer for, here is a detailed video that explains the differences between the two devices :
Though, if I were you, I'd go for Z3 Compact as a device (even after looking to the price)
but, if I wan't to chose in terms of software, I think I'd go with Z1 Compact
cuz I believe not many users that already have Z1c (like me) would wonna switch to the almost the same Z3c!
which means no devs are gonna be there as well
So as I said, your personal needs control what decision you should make
Regards,
Omar.
Z1c. As previously stated not much difference (bigger display, faster CPU, 4k video) but much higher price.
Best regards,
Coempi
as z1c owner, i would pay the difference for z3c.
the display size and dual speakers win it for me as major improvements in my eyes.
huge downside z3c cant be rooted with locked bootloader, you must unlock BL to root :/
i would go for the z3 compact if i never bought my z1 compact because of the ps4 remote play and daulshock 4 compatibility
If money is not a problem, go for Z3c all the way.
But if you consider the extra money Z3c asks for, then by buying the Z1c you won't feel really bad, the differences are minor in my opinion. Of course a bigger screen in the same body and a bigger battery would be welcome, but I don't think they are important enough to justify the price difference.
Buy the Z3c . It's better than the Z1c, but that does not mean the z1c is bad.
I think the z3c is worth the cost of the upgrade, but as a z1c owner I will not upgrade unless sony changes their policy on unlocking wrt DRM keys, or someone finds an exploit. Root isn't optional for me, but I'm not willing to tank my camera performance to get it, so I'm sticking with my z1c until something comes along in this form factor that is better and also non-destructively root-able.
Z1 compact owner here:
If you already have a Z1c = don't get the Z3c
If you don't already have a Z1c = get the Z3c
Quite simple brah
there is 2 issues with the camera on z1 compact.
1) LED bled, and black marker made it ugly on my white phone.
2) My camera freeze once in a while. And recently, it freeze when i try to take consecutive shots. (First shot ok, 2nd shot freeze)
Get the z3. And z3 has double tap to wake. I doubt ps4 game would look nice on such small screen though.
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
Xavali7 said:
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Yes don't worry Sony has promised to bring official Lolipop to Z1 Compact alongside with the rest of Z family (in next the February or so)
also, Z1 Compact will get official Lolipop support from many AOSP-Based ROMs, as soon as CyanogenMod team do so
As I mentioned no worries about software for Z1C, it should get more custom support than Z3C ever will
Regards,
Omar.
Not a worthy phone to buy for Rs.15,000 more
Me too was confused between z1c and z3c
But after a lot of searching and review,i decided to go for z1c
I could go for z3c if sony priced it less.
The sales man tried to convinced me to buy z3c,then i convinced him
Go for the white version gud luck
The main problem now is z3c needs unlock BL to get root so you will loss warranty and some of Sony features. If you need root or want to backup your TA before unlock BL, Z1c is more recommended.
There are many good stuffs on z3c like better battery life(bcoz of s801), a bit bigger screen, dual front speaker and 4K recording w/ video stabilization(our 4K mod no stabilization), a bit better camera focus and more light weight.
But z1c is really good for its lower price and the looking is better because of metal bumper it looks like more a premium design and I think the LED notification is also better on z1c.
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Hey guys,
Have been longing to upgrade my smartphone gear, current using Live Walkman(2012), and I am petty much acquainted with Sony's devices now. My main criteria is to have low profile screen, ie. 4.5 Inch and lower so had my eyes locked on Z1 Compact, but after seeing few reviews on the tube and checking the troubleshooting section of the forum, I am kinda confused.
I do not wish to wait for newer compacts because that wont just end there and I do not change phones frequently as well, so I expect to use for 2years. So would like to know if there's an alternative to Z1C or just go for it.
PS: Would like to know from the owners of Z1C, does the volume boost really have the impact on the external speaker sound? I do not listen to music on speakers or something but I do want to get alerted, If I'm in "noisy" situation or similar.
Thanks
probably wait for z2 compact or get z2 if there's no z2 compact coming..
z2 is alot better than z1 or z1 compact.. since it fixes alot interms of hardware imperfections and brought some good features as well
@kurikapooh: SpiritBreak3r clearly stated that he doesn't want to wait for newer models and it should not be bigger than 4,5". Did you even read the post?
@SpiritBreak3r: Maybe I can help since I am currently in the same situation. For days I have been looking for compact normal-sized phones. I have/had the following in my selection: Sony Xperia Z1 compact, Moto G, HTC One Mini, HTC One Mini 2, LG G2 Mini. I am 98% percent sure that I will get the Z1 compact. What is important to me: good camera, good battery, small size. In short this is why the other phones were dropped:
HTC One Mini has a really bad camera, and at most average battery
HTC One Mini 2 is too big and has a bad battery (half of use time of the Xperia), also is more expensive than xperia and slower.
LG G2 mini is much slower than xperia and has worse resolution (I think there was something else, but I can't remember right now)
Moto G is too big and the camera is too bad for my requirements.
They also have som advantages over the xperia like for example the HTC minis have very good speakers and have good build quality. The LG G2 is very cheap and has a good camera. The Moto G is very cheap and still good (except the camera).
In the end Xperia has OK speakers, good camera (the flash problem can be fixed), its the smallest phone of them all, its very fast, the battery is good, its waterproof which is a nice gimmick. Also I really want to have slo-mo recording in 120fps which imho needs a good CPU, so again one point for the xperia.
This might be helpful to you: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1_compact-review-1037p3.php
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...torola-Moto-G/phones/8283,8378,7702,8390,8208
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LG G2 mini is much slower than xperia and has worse resolution (I think there was something else, but I can't remember right now)
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Maybe stupid back-buttons?
And I really don't get why everyone says the Z2 is so much better than the Z1, all it has over the Z1 series is (arguably much) better speakers, better screen (but not over the Compact, Z2 and Z1C are both IPS) and a faster CPU. But hardware-wise it ends there. Certainly not something worth waiting for if you're after the Compact version of the Z2. I personally find the Z1 series more comfortable to hold than the Z2 series as well.
@SpiritBreak3r I am running CyanogenMod and the speaker is pretty loud, but I know for a fact that it goes way louder on stock Sony ROMs if you use the audio boost features. What is it you are confused about?
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I am running CyanogenMod
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Are you using a snapshot or did I miss a stable release? Also does cyanogenmod offer the software stabilization during video recording of the original ROM?
I just went ahead and purchased the Z1 compact today. Loving this phone already, but I was quite used to cynogenmod's features, like "Right top corner swipe brings the quick settings". Only disappointing were the speaker.
I got by default 4.4.2/.757 Build, so planning to root it right away and unlock the bootloader so I get the speaker's boosted up. Did anyone get the boost working on the .757 build?
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Are you using a snapshot or did I miss a stable release? Also does cyanogenmod offer the software stabilization during video recording of the original ROM?
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CyanogenMod doesn't do stable releases, 10.1 was the last, the closest you'll come these days is the M-snapshots. I am running nightlies though. Don't know about the stabilisation.
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CyanogenMod doesn't do stable releases, 10.1 was the last, the closest you'll come these days is the M-snapshots. I am running nightlies though.
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OK, I didn't know there were no stable releases anymore. Is everything working?
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Don't know about the stabilisation.
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Could you make a video on the phone and check if the image is shaking or not. You can see the difference in these videos:
with software stabilization on Xperia Z1 compact
without stabilization filmed on a Nexus 5.
mugoftee said:
OK, I didn't know there were no stable releases anymore. Is everything working?
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Issues with WiFi-tethering, camera starts pretty slow, besides those I have no complaints.
SpiritBreak3r said:
I got by default 4.4.2/.757 Build, so planning to root it right away and unlock the bootloader so I get the speaker's boosted up. Did anyone get the boost working on the .757 build?
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Yeah, I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed the volume boost zip for the compact located on the list here. It really gives the sound a good boost so it's well recommended.
Does anyone experience a glitch when you're listening to the music and you make a call, and when it resumes the, Sound seems to be in "Mono" stream?
I tried poweramp and Walkman app, and face this issue and it is quite disturbing having the music switch to mono output.
Okay so I'm in a situation where I soon need to get rid of my old sh**ty Xperia Active.
My first smart phone was a Xperia X10i (Which I contributed almost all stock firmwares for, here on XDA), followed by a Nokia 800 (WP7), then a Huawei Ascend P1 which I unfortunately lost and had to go back to a backup phone which is the Xperia Active.
Now I've been looking around for a replacement and the Z1C is really attractive with the awesome design language Sony has set for their Xperia line. But I wanted to get the opinions from flashers and devs here on XDA, mainly because I usually don't stick with stock firmware for long.
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
I know there is loads of custom firmwares for the Nexus line of devices, and the Oppo and OnePlus devices has CyanogenMod support.
So my only "Uncertainty" is the Xperia devices.
Now I know FXP is covering a lot of Xperias but I want to know if there is other major ROM supports for the Z1C and M2 and if the release cycle is on time with CM or not too far after that.
And how stable the builds are in general with the latest official builds of Android (4.4.3 and 4.4.4).
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
Is it easy to root?
What recoveries is available?
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I appreciate all the input you can give me and hopefully I'll get a little bit back into the Xperia hacking.
arkedk said:
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost from 270 to 400 euro here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship coming in at around 670 euro, and I wont spent that on a phone since I'm buying without contract as I'm perfectly happy with my carrier and don't want to be locked down for 6 months at a new carrier.
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost roughly the same here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
arkedk said:
Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
Trying to be helpful here (my comments in italics):
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
I used to be LG O2X owner, and compared to my old phone Z1C even running with stock rom is fast, stable and smooth.
Is it easy to root?
Very easy. All you need to do is download a file and follow the OP here. And I can confirm that it works with the latest kitkat/4.4.4.
What recoveries is available?
TWRP, PhilZ and CWM are available. You can get them here..
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
Some users report flashbleed problem with the camera (fortunately I don't have that problem).
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
I'd say quite good, judging from the number of custom ROM and kernel available for Z1C in the XDA.
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
komedol said:
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
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arkedk said:
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
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Sony recently uploaded all their copyleft kernels to GitHub, below link is for current Z1C tree.
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel-copyleft/tree/14.3.A.0.xxx
Rekoil said:
Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Hmm that's quite a big point in why I want the Z1C. The great pictures that can be taken on stock doesn't work properly on cm. Are they porting stock camera drivers and app into future FXP releases or count on getting the issues fixed?
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
mugoftee said:
Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Photos seem to have more noise as far as I could tell when I tested a FXP build. And currently it's not possible to have 4k and 120FPS recording on a CM based rom or at least nobody successfully tested it.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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About the same quality wise in my opinion, but camera starts really slow, and you lose a lot of features and post-processing that Sonys camera app does.
People mentioned that the BIONZ image processor only works with stock roms, don't know if that's true.
Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
amnher said:
Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
amnher said:
Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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In that case I'd wait for the Z3 compact...hopefully all the problems that the Z1c has would be fixed "and much more" in the Z3c
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
Move this **** to [email protected] section
Sent from my D5503 using XDA Free mobile app
i'm getting average 3½ days on Z1C.
Already have super stable Rom and kernel and Soundmod.
Now S5 mini has no rom nor kernel so you have to wait for it.
As my previous phone was Galaxy S4 i can say the TouchWiz is complete trash and the Knox is another huge PITA for developers and for flashers.
There is even more bloat on S5 omg.
The only reason i accidentally bought Galaxy S4 was because it provided so many features which seemed like a good deal but they all were useless and drained battery.
The Z1 compact is the first phone after nokia 3310 i am totally satisfied with.
For exclusivity and quality go for Z1c OR Z3 Compact.
Z1 compact, much better.....
Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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The S5 Mini rocks an Exynos 3, for which open source is practically non-existant. If you're gonna be rocking custom ROMs, definitely get a Z1 Compact.
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree totally!
Z1 compact
My answer wil be very clear: Z1 compact.
as you said, better specs, better Price, what do you want more?
Also it's almost identical to Sony's Z1, so, many options for modding and cross device roms that will work flawlessly.
And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
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And with the Z3 goodies coming, I presume very soon we will be having 4k and 120fps shooting as well as AR effects etcétera.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Lowmick said:
Hello everyone,
I am considering to buy Samsung S5 mini or Sony Xperia Z1 Compact. Z1C does have much better hw, but does it really make significant difference comparing S5 mini hardware for daily use (no games)? Battery life is also quite important for me as I would appreciate 2 days of use (day-night-day). I like design of S5 mini a bit more, but not saying, that Z1 Compact is ugly... Price in these days also plays for Sony.
Thanks for sharing any experiences
Lowmick
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S5 mini and Z1c is almost same price here in HK now because Z3c is going to out next week in HK. I'll say Z1c is a much better choice overall with much faster CPU/GPU, 512MB more memory, 200mah more battery, much more mods available from big brother Z1 or Z1c board, MHL supported, 4K recording with mod, water protection.
S5 Mini on the other hand got 0.2" larger screen, IR blaster and more light weight. So, it really depends do you need the 0.2" screen and IR to remote your TV.
The previous of Sony design on Arc and Xperia S is much better without doubt but I found the Sony' s OmniBalance design is quite good on Z1 Compact, OmniBalance is very ugly on big phone like Z1/Z2 I've to admit it but it looks okay on a compact phone.
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We have 4K and 120fps and AR mod for a real long time .........
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Yes, you are right but I have also read that with 4.4.4 the mod doesn't work as well as with 4.4.2 for reason of the old libs from the Z2 that this mod is using. They are now working very hard with the Z3 fw download to improve this.
And yes we have AR effects, but the Z3 has much more of them with more fun etcétera.
Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
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Software issue and can be solved. Others have had the issue (even me when flashing other ROMs) and we're fixed through flashing the a new ROM through recovery or Sony's tool.
I'm sorry your wife's z1c is doing that but don't paint a picture that every z1c does this.
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Software issue that can be solved?? Why haven't sony solved it already???????????? LOL :laugh:
My wife has had 2 of these phones, the first the sound and vibration stopped working after a week and the camera did the same thing!!
Looking at the forums the camera issue is very common especially those on 4.4.4!!
Go for Z1 compact or if ur pocket allows go for z3 compacr.
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Get the S5 Mini.. At least the camera works on the S5. My wife is about to throw her Z1C at the wall every time she tries to take a photo of the kids she misses the moment because the phone either freezes when activating the camera, or it takes a photo and hangs and doesn't record it, or reboots..
Fkin Sony do my head in.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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S5 camera works but not S5 mini, their cameras are totally different. Z1c focus speed is slow, really no good for taking photo for kids. Not sure about Z3c at this moment. Indeed, I believe HTC M8 got the fastest focus speed among android, good for your wife.
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The whole point of my wife wanting the Z1C is for a few reasons. Flagship specs, high pixel camera for the great photos Sony said it would take (I find the focus speed just fine - when it works), water resistant so it can handle the spills and thrills of being a parent with young kids, and being a compact similar size to iPhone 5S (we are an android family btw). For that its perfect - except for the god dam freezing!!
Regarding the HTC M8, sure great focus speed but seriously rubbish 4MP photos you cant even zoom into. I'm not really a HTC fan either after owning the M7 :good:
I had the freeze issue a number of time. But the phone just resolve itself, miss that moment, but kids being kids there are other moments. comparing results from the photos I got no qualms as it is much better then my previous phones. I bought this mainly for the battery and so far it does not dissapoints
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55272916&postcount=2604
If you guys got root, try flash this stuff in recovery. After that, my whole z1c including camera is faster. Remember to backup before flash.
rob rich said:
Z1c, best Phone i ever had battery ftw
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Agree with you!
Hi, i have one simple question. Should i buy XZ or Z5 Premium and why? I have Xperia Z2. Thanks
Hi,
Since you are here, on XDA. You can easily see how Sony is doing in the eye of other XDAers. So, as a Z5 Premium owner who likes the phone and thinks of holding on to it for like a year or two, I sincerely recommend you to buy a LG V20 or a Pixel XL.
This phone is not even 1.5 year old (from release date). I have used much more cheaper and older phones, which I have still got every answer for my every question and every possible customizations on XDA (HTC Sensation XE being one of them). None had this much abandonment on XDA. No development, no customization, no themes, no nothing. This phone is beautiful but it is also just "as is". If you are OK with adding and substracting absolutely nothing to the phone, then it's a good phone (then you wouldn't probably be in here XDA though).
The pros are all pyshical: the screen, sound quality, battery life, body material, camera are all a lot higher than the high standards of the flagships (though, none is the best in their categories). If there were some love from the community, at least maybe CyanogenMod (R.I.P.), FXP Blog or Lineage OS. Even Z5 is has not the previlige..
So I say, make sure to look at other options before actually deciding.
Mirzagunner said:
Hi, i have one simple question. Should i buy XZ or Z5 Premium and why? I have Xperia Z2. Thanks
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I would go for the XZ Premium instead if the XZ, from what I'm seeing pricing is excellent this time around of $ is not a concern...
Now if you're on a budget, XZ will get more updates than Z5p as it's a newer device, I'm not a fan of the XZ look, especially the slipt material back and the plastic side frame (but they took care of that with the XZS that's about to come out.
The Z5p is a great looking phone on the other hand with the right use of proper material and with still great hardware...I'll be upgrading to a XZ Premium whenever it will be out.
_delice_doluca_ said:
Hi,
Since you are here, on XDA. You can easily see how Sony is doing in the eye of other XDAers. So, as a Z5 Premium owner who likes the phone and thinks of holding on to it for like a year or two, I sincerely recommend you to buy a LG V20 or a Pixel XL.
This phone is not even 1.5 year old (from release date). I have used much more cheaper and older phones, which I have still got every answer for my every question and every possible customizations on XDA (HTC Sensation XE being one of them). None had this much abandonment on XDA. No development, no customization, no themes, no nothing. This phone is beautiful but it is also just "as is". If you are OK with adding and substracting absolutely nothing to the phone, then it's a good phone (then you wouldn't probably be in here XDA though).
The pros are all pyshical: the screen, sound quality, battery life, body material, camera are all a lot higher than the high standards of the flagships (though, none is the best in their categories). If there were some love from the community, at least maybe CyanogenMod (R.I.P.), FXP Blog or Lineage OS. Even Z5 is has not the previlige..
So I say, make sure to look at other options before actually deciding.
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Looks like more people went for the Z5 than the Z5p, just by looking how the other forum is more active than this one here and most rom available for the Z5 are also flashable on our Z5p... Lineage is also out recently, I haven't tried it though as I'm waiting Xposed to be compatible with sdk24, so I'm still on MM (RomAur)...nowadays as long as you can get a good optimized custom/stock rom and custom kernel (Zach's Kernel do wonders by the way), you can do pretty much all the UI cosmetics add-ons with Xposed yourself...