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Is it possible to turn off MotoBlur on the DEFY? I am interested in buying this phone.
Also, anyone know if the bootloader is encrypted and unhackable?
Turn off motoblur in what sense? And why? The launcher? Or the apps?
It is rootable. Not sure of the bootloader etc. Probably want to read through dev forum to see if you find anything that suits your needs
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I removed most of the moto widgets and haven't had any issues with blur since.
nitewalkergr can you give a list of the motoblur services you deleted and maybe how you did it or point me to a tutorial where to do it?
New to the android scene coming from a very old herald p4350 that still rocked the world but my screen broke for the fifth time now and I thought maybe its time for some gorilla glass
I concur on the list of services.
There are sites that list Windows services - what they do and what the consequence of switching it off is. It would be excellent if we could compile something like this for the Defy.
In my opinion the Blur launcher is laggy and crap. however some of the blur apps are actually good. The easiest way is to install another launcher - I installed my favourite - Launcherproplus and bang the lag was gone.
Yeah the blur apps for contacts n stuff cannot be removed but the launcher itself can.
+1 for launcher pro as well.
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I'm using launcher pro and it's quite good. But tbh blur isn't laggy at all, maybe it's because i don't use its widges? but anyways i'm using launcher pro and i'm loving it...
I removed the Blur widgets because I have no need for them but if I go into Settings > Applications > Running services I still see things named 'FeedReceiverService' and 'NewsRetrievalService'.
Does anyone know some way of killing the services, because they're just a waste of space to me.
If you removed the news widget, friend feed and social feed apk's those services shouldn't be there. They're not on mine.
'Scuse my ignorance but how do I remove the apks?
When I said I removed the widgets, I just meant from the homescreen.
You would need to root and then delete the apks at your own risk. Always back up first as im not sure how/if they interact with other blur services etc.
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'Scuse my ignorance but how do I remove the apks?
When I said I removed the widgets, I just meant from the homescreen.
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If u don't want to have blur running then don't sign into your accounts under blur accounts.... simple. I personally like that quick contacts and clock and date widget.
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Frankly at first I wanted to get rid of Motoblur as well but in the end it isn't that bad and probably better tested for battery life compared to the usual apps like twitter and such.
However when you change the SIM it asks you for Motoblur user/pass. Fine. I understand the point, security. Now anyone knows how to make it cache the credentials? Or just a general patch for Android to "trick it" into not knowing you changed the SIM? Having to enter user (=long email) + pass for motoblur, then gmail password as well (standard android treat) is quite too much (this is even before we go into SIM pin, normal screen unlock, etc).
Just installed launcher-pro and really happy with it.
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Aren't there Defys released in some countries without Motoblur? If that's the case, we could hope for a Motoblur-free ROM that should be easily flashable, right?
Just install adw launcher from market, tadaa, nicer look and no more lag. My Defy was running Motobloat for exactly as long as it took me to open the market, dow load adw and reboot
I am not talking about the looks. I skipped the registration at the first boot and installed LauncherPro immediately.
Still, lot's of motoblur-stuff running in the background (social networks app for example) and most stock-apps are changed. It's mostly minor changes and sometimes even for the better, but a vanilla android version would feel "cleaner".
Try app Free Advanced Task Manager
Step666 said:
I removed the Blur widgets because I have no need for them but if I go into Settings > Applications > Running services I still see things named 'FeedReceiverService' and 'NewsRetrievalService'.
Does anyone know some way of killing the services, because they're just a waste of space to me.
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Hey I'm just about to get a Defy and I'm using "Free Advanced Task Manager" on my Moto XT701 (an HK Milestone - I think?) and it works exceptionally well.
FREE on Market.
3mvv said:
Aren't there Defys released in some countries without Motoblur? If that's the case, we could hope for a Motoblur-free ROM that should be easily flashable, right?
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As far as I know, there will be defy without blur avaliable in Taiwan and Hong Kong before Chrismas. If there's a tutorial to teach me how to get a copy of the rom, I would like to share it.
1.Google Play Books
2.Maps
3.Google Play Newsstand
4.Google Play Music
5.Google Play Games
6.Google Play Movies & TV
7.Bitcasa
8.Backup -Titanium will do that for you instead [MUST]
9.Riptide
10.Polaris Office - Replace it with Office Suite or any other app [NOT A MUST]
11.Music - Replace it with Winamp, Poweramp or any other music player [MUST]
12.File Manager - Replace it with Total Commander, Root Explorer, etc. [MUST]
13.Movie Studio
14.Sound Recorder - Better don't uninstall it, might be useful sometimes
15.Clock - Replace it with another clock widget [MUST]
16.Gallery - Replace it with QuickPic or another application [MUST]
17.Weather - Replace it with another widget [NOT A MUST]
18.Me Widget
19.Huawei Home - NOT RECOMMENDED but you can replace it with another Home Launcher [MUST]
20.FM Radio
21.Power Manager - NOT RECOMMENDED
22.App Installer - You'll have Total Commander or Root Explorer to do that for you [install apps] [MUST]
23.Street View
24.Calculator
25.Permission Manager - NOT RECOMMENDED
26.Downloads
27.Notes
28.Help Center - NOT RECOMMENDED
MUST = It means that you MUST replace the removed system app with another app if you want that function to work properly.For example if you delete Gallery you will not be able to view photos unless you install another app to perform that function for you, so that's a MUST.
NOT A MUST = It means that a system app can be removed without installing another one to replace it, for example you can remove Polaris Office without installing Office Suite, let's say, but you can install another app if you want to open files that need that kind of app to perform that function, the same you can do with Calculator, there is no need for that app, only if you want it there,so that's NOT A MUST
great thanks
primo14z said:
great thanks
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No problem. Anytime.
With Clean Master, you can uninstall system apps, and it tells you if the app's important or not. Just an idea
Shadowprince94 said:
With Clean Master, you can uninstall system apps, and it tells you if the app's important or not. Just an idea
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Important from whose point of view?
ZuperStyler said:
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18.Me Widget
19.Huawei Home - NOT RECOMMENDED but you can replace it with another Home Launcher [MUST]
20.FM Radio
21.Power Manager - NOT RECOMMENDED
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I must ask, why is HuaweiHome not recommended to be removed if you have installed another launcher? Does it have any ramifications in other apps?
thanks
SorynZ said:
I must ask, why is HuaweiHome not recommended to be removed if you have installed another launcher? Does it have any ramifications in other apps?
thanks
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Huawei Home is optimised for our P6 and is really stable. Other launcher MIGHT give you issues. I always keep a backup launcher on my phone
SorynZ said:
I must ask, why is HuaweiHome not recommended to be removed if you have installed another launcher? Does it have any ramifications in other apps?
thanks
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It's always a good idea to keep at least two Home Launchers, just in case, the stock one and some other one you like best. That doesn't mean that you cannot uninstall the stock one completely, you can do it if you want, I just said that don;t uninstall the stock one unless you have another one. If it bothers you, uninstall it. No harm done. But be sure to have another Launcher.
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It's always a good idea to keep at least two Home Launchers, just in case, the stock one and some other one you like best. That doesn't mean that you cannot uninstall the stock one completely, you can do it if you want, I just said that don;t uninstall the stock one unless you have another one. If it bothers you, uninstall it. No harm done. But be sure to have another Launcher.
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yeah, I've tried changing my launcher.. after 4 months on EMUI, another style seems a little odd. so I'm sticking to the default launcher and waiting for KK good thing i didn't uninstall it
SorynZ said:
yeah, I've tried changing my launcher.. after 4 months on EMUI, another style seems a little odd. so I'm sticking to the default launcher and waiting for KK good thing i didn't uninstall it
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Waiting? KK is here already
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lootjelo said:
Waiting? KK is here already
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I'm waiting either for a fully functional KK with gapps and everything working or for the stock KK
Wait for the official release. It will be better.
Why can't Power manager be removed? If stock android has it's own methods, and you can use a app like greenify, for a coarser battery management (the system should still run the soc cores in the right management, per Governor setting). Is power manager somehow too integrated in the system, hardware? Or has no one tried?
Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
Frozen/Removed
Cell Broadcast
E-Mail
Documents
File Manager
Internet/Stock Browser
LG Health
LG Search Widget Provider
LG Setup Wizard
McAfee Security
Messaging (stock)
Music
Video
Video Trim
Weather
Weather Theme
Weather Platform
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users
557953 said:
Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users
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I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.
Lennyuk said:
I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.
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Understood, you are most likely correct. Google Apps removed from list
If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks
Get my G3 later today. Thanks for the list! I'm completely new to Android, so how do I remove bloat ware?
you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software
walkerx said:
you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software
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I didn't find the apk by myself, but root uninstaller found somehow
Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?
alphamini said:
Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?
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They do different things. Freezing them is like uninstalling them - they are gone and won't work at all but can be retrieved by unfreezing. Greenifying them just hibernates them but they work as normal.
bartito said:
If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks
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Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370
I wonder if anyone has the time, patience, and good will to compile all of these threads into one master index?
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370
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I've noticed that the system doesn't allow you to disable everything if you're not rooted so maybe anything you are allowed to disable is safe to disable.
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drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.
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And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.
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Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.
drock212 said:
Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?
Horcza said:
Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?
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Correct. I have mine frozen to avoid receiving update notifications. Also this is good until you find out if the new update is rootable. If its not then its good to stick with the current software.
drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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My list is almost this one of yours. Had to unfreeze some of those because it made the home screen very lagged.
Everything Google uninstalled or frozen for over 2 weeks. No problems or complaints.
thanks the development has really taken off for this great device
So I froze most of these. Will it free up memory or do I have to delete them? Kinda scared to delete them. I have nandroid backup, just hate to possibly have to restore when the phone is running good.
A little bonus update For those Verizon Galaxy S7 users who are unaware http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/latest-verizon-update-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge/ not mentioned in the change log.
please share your thoughts about this service.
Ah, so that's what that is. DISABLED
Thanks for letting us know, I just checked and disabled it.
Something like this should be illegal. Disabled.
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Thanks for this! I disabled it. I want my phone running as lean and mean as possible.
If you own the phone outright, paid in full, they should disclose what they are doing to it. I cleared and froze right after upgrading.
You all are welcome, i always try to share helpful info for my friends.
Thanks !
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This was also present on S6 and forward. Not new, but this should never have been added in the first place. I don't want random games on my phone.
I tried to disable but asked "Would you like to replace app with factory version?" Is another app that does the same thing going to replace it? I can't disable DT ignite if I don't click yes
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I tried to disable but asked "Would you like to replace app with factory version?" Is another app that does the same thing going to replace it? I can't disable DT ignite if I don't click yes
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Its because DT ignite has updates installed. Click yes and it will put the "factory" non-updated version back on the phone. Then it will allow u to disable as normal.
Thanks so much for the find.
For those that may not have found it yet I have just started using Package Disabler Pro which let's you disable all of the verison and other bloatware without root...
zach.xtr said:
Thanks so much for the find.
For those that may not have found it yet I have just started using Package Disabler Pro which let's you disable all of the verison and other bloatware without root...
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Great app.
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emmawilliam834 said:
A little bonus update For those Verizon Galaxy S7 users who are unaware http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/latest-verizon-update-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge/ not mentioned in the change log.
please share your thoughts about this service.
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DT ignite is a cancer waiting to spread. Forcing apps to install onto the device that has almost half its storage already taken by bloat. Haven't seen any apps besides the beam software install without my permission, had to install Nextradio manually ( which has annoying ads ). DT Ignite could one day install an app that can compromise your phones security due to programming flaws. All quickrooter exploits have been patched, however if it feels like a Trojan it is a Trojan
Just updated my VZ Galaxy S6 edge plus 64gb and this Cancerous AIDS is in that update as well. Before my eyes I had apps appearing like magic installing themselves one by one.
This is worse than most phones that have crap in their root preinstall folder that show up after every restart
Haven't had anything wacky installed, it's even installing an updated Instagram not from the Google play store
Please test http://atvlauncher.trekgonewild.de
Its beta
The built app launches the desired app and then terminate itself, it needs no permissions.
By 'launcher' you mean a menu-app that starts selected apps from within the default leanback launcher (the 'extra step') or a total replacement of the default launcher?
What i mean is this:
http://trekgonewild.de/Leanback_small.png
DieHardMan said:
What i mean is this:
http://trekgonewild.de/Leanback_small.png
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Ah, integrate non compatible (sideloaded) android TV apps in the default launcher, so you can start them right from the home screen. That's useful!
Can you upload that app/ apk so we can play around with it.
Cheers
Well ok but theres not much to test.
You could take a look at the solution I came up with as well.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/902150/fast-launcher-for-android-tv/
You can try app cloner too
Thank you for your suggestions, but thats not what iam looking for.
Btw ive updated my first post.
jeermi said:
You can try app cloner too
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App cloner at least when I tried it disables mouse support not sure if the newer versions fixed that. The app from nvidia zone doesn't work all the time.. This guy optimized TV apps work 100%
https://plus.google.com/communities...8/stream/09982829-9476-446c-8ba8-fa165d9b91f0
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Please test http://atvlauncher.trekgonewild.de
Its beta
The built app launches the desired app and then terminate itself, it needs no permissions.
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Nice one!
What about category? APP or GAME... so it will be placed in the proper row...
Yep i know, some features like banner support and category selection are still missing.
Love the concept of the app! Like others have mentioned, would be nice for full banner support. For the time being, I just used APK2TV to add the proper banner. Thanks for your hard work!
Added banner support, please test!
Hi, it seems to have some issues with "_" in package name...
With Choplifter HD the generated app tries to launch "com.inxile.choplifterhd" instead of "com.inxile.Choplifter_HD"
The banner support works fine...
Thanks for your effort
Thx, should be fixed.
Seems that package names are case sensitive.... Choplifter HD still does not launch... "com.inxile.choplifter_hd" instead of "com.inxile.Choplifter_HD"
Youre right, ive fixed it.
It works fine now... thank you
Thanks a lot for the app.
Very useful.