I recently got the phone and I absolutely love it to death. I've been browsing on the Android development threads and I keep seeing threads like this "[OTA ZIP+TWRP] HTC Desire Eye 2.19.401.1 STOCK Europe 5.0.2 Lollipop" and that worries me a bit. I bought this phone from AT&T and there seems to be only like 2 threads mentioning it. My question is exactly like the title, will ROMs titled "Europe" work on AT&T or are they both the exact same model and it's only the carrier differences?
RawSynergy said:
I recently got the phone and I absolutely love it to death. I've been browsing on the Android development threads and I keep seeing threads like this "[OTA ZIP+TWRP] HTC Desire Eye 2.19.401.1 STOCK Europe 5.0.2 Lollipop" and that worries me a bit. I bought this phone from AT&T and there seems to be only like 2 threads mentioning it. My question is exactly like the title, will ROMs titled "Europe" work on AT&T or are they both the exact same model and it's only the carrier differences?
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If you are running stock lollipop right now, you can unlock your bootloader through HTC Dev, and flash a custom recovery. Then you can use almost any custom rom available for the desire eye.
However, if you want to flash stock RUU of another region (eg: European firmware), you need to have S-off which costs 25$
Rouz. said:
If you are running stock lollipop right now, you can unlock your bootloader through HTC Dev, and flash a custom recovery. Then you can use almost any custom rom available for the desire eye.
However, if you want to flash stock RUU of another region (eg: European firmware), you need to have S-off which costs 25$
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OK thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I am running KitKat 4.4.4 and I don't know kw if there will be a lollipop update from AT&T. Is there any lollipop firmware for AT&T? Also what does S-Off means?
RawSynergy said:
OK thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I am running KitKat 4.4.4 and I don't know kw if there will be a lollipop update from AT&T. Is there any lollipop firmware for AT&T? Also what does S-Off means?
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If you are running stock 4.4.4 and you are not rooted (and you don't have a custom recovery installed), you should be able to receive the OTA update to lollipop (check under software update)
There is a lollipop update available for the AT&T variant, so there shouldn't be any problems.
Achieving S-off (or security off) is only required for making changes that are not meant to be done by the average user. If you just want to try custom roms, you will be fine without it.
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Rouz. said:
If you are running stock 4.4.4 and you are not rooted (and you don't have a custom recovery installed), you should be able to receive the OTA update to lollipop (check under software update)
There is a lollipop update available for the AT&T variant, so there shouldn't be any problems.
Achieving S-off (or security off) is only required for making changes that are not meant to be done by the average user. If you just want to try custom roms, you will be fine without it.
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OK I just got the update from the AT&T update today and I am running 5.0.2 right now. As for custom ROMs (like Viper ROM or the de-odexed version) I need to enable S-Off right? Or is it only for firmware from a different region?
RawSynergy said:
OK I just got the update from the AT&T update today and I am running 5.0.2 right now. As for custom ROMs (like Viper ROM or the de-odexed version) I need to enable S-Off right? Or is it only for firmware from a different region?
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Okay, well done so far.
You don't need s-off, you only need to unlock your boot loader right now.
Visit this link:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
Select your device (desire eye) and follow the instructions. Let me know if you had any questions.
After you unlocked your boot loader, you need a custom recovery, but that comes later. Unlock your boot loader first!
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Rouz. said:
Okay, well done so far.
You don't need s-off, you only need to unlock your boot loader right now.
Visit this link:
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
Select your device (desire eye) and follow the instructions. Let me know if you had any questions.
After you unlocked your boot loader, you need a custom recovery, but that comes later. Unlock your boot loader first!
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OK thank you for the link but won't unlocking your bootloader wipe the device? That's what I heard from some of the threads
RawSynergy said:
OK thank you for the link but won't unlocking your bootloader wipe the device? That's what I heard from some of the threads
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Yes unfortunately it does wipe the entire internal storage for security reasons. So you have to backup your files.
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Rouz. said:
Yes unfortunately it does wipe the entire internal storage for security reasons. So you have to backup your files.
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OK thanks for the information. As for backing up, which application should I use?
RawSynergy said:
OK thanks for the information. As for backing up, which application should I use?
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You can't really backup your apps without root access. Just backup your files to your computer. You will have to install and configure your apps again after unlocking your device and flashing a custom Rom.
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Hey sorry if this was addressed already in another thread. Just picked up a One X yesterday. I've since unlocked bootloader and rooted phone. Just playing with stock rom for now before I jump into custom rom.
My question is, I keep getting notifications for system update available. Should I avoid these updates ? don't want to loose root and unlocked bootloader
Thanks!
Just do the update and then re-root - bootloader isn't touched once unlocked unless you manually lock it yourself
EddyOS said:
Just do the update and then re-root - bootloader isn't touched once unlocked unless you manually lock it yourself
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Thanks! That was fast
JPxM0Dz said:
Hey sorry if this was addressed already in another thread. Just picked up a One X yesterday. I've since unlocked bootloader and rooted phone. Just playing with stock rom for now before I jump into custom rom.
My question is, I keep getting notifications for system update available. Should I avoid these updates ? don't want to loose root and unlocked bootloader
Thanks!
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If you have already flashed a custom recovery, you will need to flash back the stock recovery to apply the update.
bobsie41 said:
If you have already flashed a custom recovery, you will need to flash back the stock recovery to apply the update.
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Yeah when I unlocked bootloader, I immediatley flashed cwm. Hmmm seems like alot of flashing back and forth for these updates.
Should have done all the updates first I guess
Maybe I'll just flash an already tweaked rom
When you update it updates your hboot as well as your rom. Its worth pointing out that if an s-off exploit comes out for an earlier version of the hboot you might not be able to downgrade. If you're not having specific problems such as screen flicker I would not update.
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h00py said:
When you update it updates your hboot as well as your rom. Its worth pointing out that if an s-off exploit comes out for an earlier version of the hboot you might not be able to downgrade. If you're not having specific problems such as screen flicker I would not update.
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Thanks for the info, no issues really
JPxM0Dz said:
Thanks for the info, no issues really
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If you do upgrade then given the number of problems people have it's also a good idea to make sure a RUU is available that matches the version you intend to upgrade to. That way if everything goes south you can flash the RUU and get it back up and running.
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in the title, its a very simple yet important question.
Will rooting my international and unlocked HTC One M8 prevent me from receiving OTA updates on stock rom?
Thanks
mahdibassam said:
Hi Everyone,
As mentioned in the title, its a very simple yet important question.
Will rooting my international and unlocked HTC One M8 prevent me from receiving OTA updates on stock rom?
Thanks
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You will receive OTA updates so long as you are on the stock rom with stock recovery (with stock CID or S-OFF) though I recommend having S-OFF if you intend to do so as an extra precaution.
exad said:
You will receive OTA updates so long as you are on the stock rom with stock recovery.
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And as easy as that this thread is closed
Thank you
mahdibassam said:
And as easy as that this thread is closed
Thank you
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Be sure to check my edit. HTC OTA/RUU's have bricked phones with a modified CID and S-ON on previous phone(s) so I recommend having S-OFF just in case.
You might lose some standard apps, but since they are on the data partition, which unlocking wipes, it shouldn't cause a problem.
exad said:
You will receive OTA updates so long as you are on the stock rom with stock recovery (with stock CID or S-OFF) though I recommend having S-OFF if you intend to do so as an extra precaution.
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Ok I'm on the TWRP recovery, how do I restore the phone back to stock recovery so I can do the Verizon OTA update?
BTW its a Verizon M8
I have been searching for this but haven't found anything about it.
Thanks
fastboot flash recovery stock_recovery.zip
Make sure you get the correct recovery, Verizon versions are odd, aren't they?
how do we check our cid?
BenPope said:
fastboot flash recovery stock_recovery.zip
Make sure you get the correct recovery, Verizon versions are odd, aren't they?
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Recoveries are flashed in fastboot as images not zips.
ashyx said:
Recoveries are flashed in fastboot as images not zips.
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Mea Culpa
Hello Folks,
I'm helping a friend to mod his m8 , he has installed 4.4.3 OTA I know I can unlock the bootloader via HTC dev then custom recovery and wakesauce to gain su acess, but can I use firewater to SOFF the phone after installing 4.4.3 OTA , I have read somewhere HTC patched stuff and firewater does not work on 4.4.3 devices?
Please advise ...
Use sunshine...firewater already outdated
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hdorius said:
Use sunshine...firewater already outdated
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Yes go for SunShine.
muk12 said:
I know I can unlock the bootloader via HTC dev then custom recovery and wakesauce to gain su acess, but can I use firewater to SOFF the phone after installing 4.4.3 OTA , I have read somewhere HTC patched stuff and firewater does not work on 4.4.3 devices?
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You don't need HTCDev if you use SunShine, as SunShine gains S-Off AND unlocks the bootloader. Following this way HTC don't come to know that the device has been changed. Thus you would not have any problems regarding warranty
hdorius said:
Use sunshine...firewater already outdated
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HTCNerdYoda said:
Yes go for SunShine.
You don't need HTCDev if you use SunShine, as SunShine gains S-Off AND unlocks the bootloader. Following this way HTC don't come to know that the device has been changed. Thus you would not have any problems regarding warranty
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Thanks for your reply mate.Sunshine is the way to go ....however I have used HTC android devices in the past and I want to know can AOSP/GPE ROMS be flashed on m8 with S ON by fastboot flash boot.img after installing ROM ZIP from the recovery ?
muk12 said:
Thanks for your reply mate.Sunshine is the way to go ....however I have used HTC android devices in the past and I want to know can AOSP/GPE ROMS be flashed on m8 with S ON by fastboot flash boot.img after installing ROM ZIP from the recovery ?
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Yep,still the same like previous HTC phone,S-ON still can flash any custom rom and just flash boot.img after rom zip
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muk12 said:
Thanks for your reply mate.Sunshine is the way to go ....however I have used HTC android devices in the past and I want to know can AOSP/GPE ROMS be flashed on m8 with S ON by fastboot flash boot.img after installing ROM ZIP from the recovery ?
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Yes but to flash AOSP/GPE ROMs could easily lead to problems if it is done wrong. For GPE as far as I know a conversion of the phone is needed, as the partition sizes are different. During this process the hole firmware has to be replaced by the GPE one with the black HBoot as well. So do carefully read the conversion threads if you are coming from a sense ROM!
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HTCNerdYoda said:
Yes but to flash AOSP/GPE ROMs could easily lead to problems if it is done wrong. For GPE as far as I know a conversion of the phone is needed, as the partition sizes are different. During this process the hole firmware has to be replaced by the GPE one with the black HBoot as well. So do carefully read the conversion threads if you are coming from a sense ROM!
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The partitions are only altered if a full conversion (by RUU) is performed. GPE based custom ROMs will run fine with no conversion (no partition change or hboot change required); as will any AOSP ROMs.
Hello currently I am using a T-Mobile m9 with a custom Rom. I used to own an m7 before I ditched it for my nexus 5. Today I noticed a security patches released and realized I can't remember how to update when not stock. I was wondering does flashing new firmware still work the same as it did on the m7?
As far as I know, there are RUU files in 2 different formats: exe file which runs form your computer, or .zip files, which are saved on the SD card and then once you boot in download mode it will automatically ask if you want to apply the RUU file; I think you need to be S-OFF for this method though (as soon as I got back to S-ON, flashing the RUU zip outputs an error)
MrGriffdude said:
Hello currently I am using a T-Mobile m9 with a custom Rom. I used to own an m7 before I ditched it for my nexus 5. Today I noticed a security patches released and realized I can't remember how to update when not stock. I was wondering does flashing new firmware still work the same as it did on the m7?
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I would look to the thread for the rom you are using, there will be the rom updates and info that will point you in the correct direction.
You need to be aware of the phone status (cid/locked/unlocked/S status) but the thread is the correct place to get all the info
Since you are using a custom Tom I'm assuming you've installed twrp and rooted?
If so, and you didn't follow the procedure to properly backup your system for OTAs then RUU is your way to go (assuming you're not soft).
Anyway head to twrp thread in original m9 development forum and see what are your options.
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Jhonys said:
Since you are using a custom Tom I'm assuming you've installed twrp and rooted?
If so, and you didn't follow the procedure to properly backup your system for OTAs then RUU is your way to go (assuming you're not soft).
Anyway head to twrp thread in original m9 development forum and see what are your options.
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i am s-off but i do not have a stock back up
MrGriffdude said:
i am s-off but i do not have a stock back up
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In that case just follow this thread
Rooted my HTC m9 (unlocked the boot loader , flashed a custom twrp recovery, installed supersu through it) and I am still getting ota update. But when I try to install the update ( going from 5.1.1 to marshmallow ) the phone restarts and get into the recovery.
I tried to restore the nandroid I have made since I rooted the phone, and tried to update again, but still didn't work !
Actually the phone is working great but all the solution I tried to get back to stock , and take the ota update didn't work ( even with an RUU , which I may not have found the right one).
Below is a pic of the download mode
Any help will be apreciated
imgur. com/avkCxqW
tinypic. com/r/fe3muf/9
Nb: remove the space between "dot" and "com"
You either need to be at "official" status OR buy s-off.
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shivadow said:
You either need to be at "official" status OR buy s-off.
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Please what do you mean by "official" status ,and how ?
And also if I buy s-off (using sunshine app) what next ?
Why on earth are you rooting if you don't know anything about it?.
Official means "as it was from factory" the device knows that it isn't as factory.
S-off means you can flash any rom and brick your device even quicker.
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Well I forgot to say that I am a beginner.
Anyway, how can I get back to official status, I mean if It's still possible.
And what if I flash a custom rom, will I be able to get ota updates ( even unofficial)
superyacine1994 said:
Well I forgot to say that I am a beginner.
Anyway, how can I get back to official status, I mean if It's still possible.
And what if I flash a custom rom, will I be able to get ota updates ( even unofficial)
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You have to be 100% stock to take an ota. This is a security feature to prevent bricks, which can and have resulted from people trying to take otas when rooted.
There are multiple threads on how to do this. Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/stock-nand-backup-ota-update-collection-t3132698
superyacine1994 said:
Well I forgot to say that I am a beginner.
Anyway, how can I get back to official status, I mean if It's still possible.
And what if I flash a custom rom, will I be able to get ota updates ( even unofficial)
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Official status is a pita, just go s-off. Its worth the $25 to have a working phone at the end.
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shivadow said:
Official status is a pita, just go s-off. Its worth the $25 to have a working phone at the end.
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Indeed! I will !
I guess as soon as I go s-off I will be able to flash any ruu therefore be 100% stock right?
iElvis said:
You have to be 100% stock to take an ota. This is a security feature to prevent bricks, which can and have resulted from people trying to take otas when rooted.
There are multiple threads on how to do this. Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/stock-nand-backup-ota-update-collection-t3132698
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Another thing,
After I have unlocked the boot loader, I did a twrp-backup .
So I don't need to download another one ,right ?
So long as you have the 4gb backup of system then you're golden. You can't do another until its stock stock stock because the partition is now modded!!.
S-off will help against bricks. You must still have the official status to flash a signed official stock rom but s-off isn't counted/seen. These are ruu.EXE
Otherwise yes, any rom except signed official while rooted with s-off. You can install unsigned "offical" stock roms and flash them straight away. No messing about resetting official. These are ruu.ZIP.
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shivadow said:
S-off will help against bricks.
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This needs some nuance. Being s-off will prevent you from getting into situations where you can't boot because of some security protocol, but can't fix the problem because you can't boot, for example if you relock in bootloader with a custom recovery but don't have "Allow OEM unlock" ticked in the OS.
But being s-off also opens up many other avenues for brickage that don't exist when s-on. A hard brick can be as simple as flashing a custom splash image for the wrong phone.
shivadow said:
So long as you have the 4gb backup of system then you're golden. You can't do another until its stock stock stock because the partition is now modded!!.
S-off will help against bricks. You must still have the official status to flash a signed official stock rom but s-off isn't counted/seen. These are ruu.EXE
Otherwise yes, any rom except signed official while rooted with s-off. You can install unsigned "offical" stock roms and flash them straight away. No messing about resetting official. These are ruu.ZIP.
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Got you now !
I just restored my twrp backup ( BTW it's 9.8gb not 4gb) it contains a backup of all the partitions.
Now, instead of going s-off and use ruu to get back to stock, is there another way for so ?