Looking at these I had my hopes up:
Sprint SM-N900P
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
T-Mobile SM-N900T
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
Only to learn from here (thanks to the search button) that this still was not possible. The only explanation that most have is that (despite what is listed above) CDMA wont work on a GSM phone. I'm posting here in hopes for a little elaboration. Doesn't sprint now give SIM cards to some phones so that we can register our N3 on there network using the above bands?
Also, I'm comfortable converting my phones hardware to CDMA if it saves me a few $$$. Is this a viable solution? I love my Note and cant justify a new phone when this one makes me so happy.
TIA -
It won't work no matter what you do. First reason is that CDMA and WCDMA are completely different. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA sim cards/RUIM in their devices. They wouldn't need cards at all but LTE is a fork of the GSM path. Our N900T can only use GSM sim cards and it doesn't contain the CDMA radio. Even if it did and we could unlock the radio, we have no way to program the MEID, MDN, MIN, PPP settings and profile settings into the phone for it to use Sprint's towers.
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On top of that, Sprint has a policy that, unless the phone is a Sprint branded phone (one that was never registered before but is designed for the Sprint Network or has only been activated on Sprint), they won't activate the phone to be used on their network (this includes any phone that was activated on Sprint, but was converted to Boost or Virgin Mobile). They are notorious for pulling this policy when someone wants to activate a Verizon phone on Sprint. Sometimes you could get someone at a store (usually a tech) to activate it, but I heard it was usually at great risk to their job.
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It won't work no matter what you do. First reason is that CDMA and WCDMA are completely different. Sprint and Verizon use CDMA sim cards/RUIM in their devices. They wouldn't need cards at all but LTE is a fork of the GSM path. Our N900T can only use GSM sim cards and it doesn't contain the CDMA radio. Even if it did and we could unlock the radio, we have no way to program the MEID, MDN, MIN, PPP settings and profile settings into the phone for it to use Sprint's towers.
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On top of that, Sprint has a policy that, unless the phone is a Sprint branded phone (one that was never registered before but is designed for the Sprint Network or has only been activated on Sprint), they won't activate the phone to be used on their network (this includes any phone that was activated on Sprint, but was converted to Boost or Virgin Mobile). They are notorious for pulling this policy when someone wants to activate a Verizon phone on Sprint. Sometimes you could get someone at a store (usually a tech) to activate it, but I heard it was usually at great risk to their job.
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I believe they actually just changed that policy. They just very recently started a "Being Your Own Phone" policy, but I'm not sure about what phones they allow. It seems like they would allow any that will work on their network.
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Well put guys, thanks!
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Oh, they did? Tells you how much I keep up with them after I left.
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I believe they actually just changed that policy. They just very recently started a "Being Your Own Phone" policy, but I'm not sure about what phones they allow. It seems like they would allow any that will work on their network.
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Oh, they did? Tells you how much I keep up with them after I left.
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Yep... I just saw the commercial for it last week sometime. Verizon is about the only one left not doing it now.
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Sprint is now owned by T-mobile dunno much else tho
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Hi guys, I'm currently in Europe right now, I have with me both my brand new TMO GS2 (I had TMO unlock it prior to my trip) but I also brought with me my trusty old TMO HTC G2 as a back-up phone.
I purchased a prepaid sim card here. Sim card already has the APN setting pre-loaded. When I pop it into my G2 I get full HSPA signal and getting 3 mb/s download on SpeedTest, but when I pop the same sim into my TM GS2, it only picks up EDGE with speeds of 200 kb/s download.
I did the "connect to WCDMA only" in the mobile networks setting and then I get no data at all, only phone signal.
I'm baffled since both phones has the same HSPA bands (HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100) actually the G2 doesn't even have the 850Mhz band.
Anyone have an idea whats happening and how I can get it to connect to HSPA? I'm here for a month and would really like to use my phone at full speed.
THANKS!
hmmm...That's really weird. What's the SIM card carrier?
ungarisch said:
Hi guys, I'm currently in Europe right now, I have with me both my brand new TMO GS2 (I had TMO unlock it prior to my trip) but I also brought with me my trusty old TMO HTC G2 as a back-up phone.
I purchased a prepaid sim card here. Sim card already has the APN setting pre-loaded. When I pop it into my G2 I get full HSPA signal and getting 3 mb/s download on SpeedTest, but when I pop the same sim into my TM GS2, it only picks up EDGE with speeds of 200 kb/s download.
I did the "connect to WCDMA only" in the mobile networks setting and then I get no data at all, only phone signal.
I'm baffled since both phones has the same HSPA bands (HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100) actually the G2 doesn't even have the 850Mhz band.
Anyone have an idea whats happening and how I can get it to connect to HSPA? I'm here for a month and would really like to use my phone at full speed.
THANKS!
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Contact samsung or tmobile
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Contact samsung or tmobile
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TMO customer service has gone to **** over the last year, ever since they moved the call center to the Philippines, its just a bunch of under qualified and under educated clown working there. Last time I called in a tech told me to switch off my phone for 2 hours and when I turned it back on it would work. Seriously?
Anyways..
Orange, Romania is the Mobile Operator, which I'm pretty sure runs 3G on UMTS2100, which this phone has, and so does my HTC G2
My phone currently is running on the de-CIQ'd stock ROM that I got from the developer forum.
I assume the roms has the stock kernel and radio in it. Does the kernel or radio control mobile data? Could switching kernels or radios possibly solve this?
This is kind of a big deal no? I'm sure I'm not the only person that would like to use 3G overseas!
see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Romania
3G only on 900 Mhz or 2100 Mhz
so maybe the area you were in, did not have the 2100 Mhz tower, and only the 900 Mhz towers
AllGamer said:
see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Romania
3G only on 900 Mhz or 2100 Mhz
so maybe the area you were in, did not have the 2100 Mhz tower, and only the 900 Mhz towers
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Agreed this is most likely. 2100 is NEWER in most GSM countries.
I don't get any outsourced customer service. You're likely 1) Prepaid/Flexpay 2) calling in too much 3) showing out on the phone with the reps
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Agreed this is most likely. 2100 is NEWER in most GSM countries.
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but then I dont understand why my HTC G2 gets 3G?? would it have the 900mhz then even tho its not published?
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I don't get any outsourced customer service. You're likely 1) Prepaid/Flexpay 2) calling in too much 3) showing out on the phone with the reps
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I switched to Monthly4G service as ATT&T insurance...
This can only mean one thing then, the GSII was never supposed to work in europe, and that the HTC G2 and the HTC Desire Z have the same internals and are triband 900/1700/2100 phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3518&idPhone2=3421
According to www.airportal.de there is 1900MHz tower right next to me, but my GN does not want to connect to it, even when the overall signal is low. Is there a radio update that will allow me to use 1900MHz band?
I checked what tower my phone is connected to by entering *#*#4636#*#* and CID does not match to the one on the site.
My radio is UGLH1
Thank you.
EDIT: my sim card is one month old.
rome425 said:
According to www.airportal.de there is 1900MHz tower right next to me, but my GN does not want to connect to it, even when the overall signal is low. Is there a radio update that will allow me to use 1900MHz band?
I checked what tower my phone is connected to by entering *#*#4636#*#* and CID does not match to the one on the site.
My radio is UGLH1
Thank you.
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thats part of tmobiles new iphone 5 rollout plan(for people using the att iphone 5). you need a special micro sim card for it to work. http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/07/t-mob...rk-in-large-number-of-markets-by-end-of-2012/
I was not aware that T-Mobile has different sim cards for iPhines (other than size)
My friend's iPhone 4S on T-Mobile has 7-8 Mbts speed standing right next to me, but I can only get 2-2.5 Mbts.
simms22 said:
thats part of tmobiles new iphone 5 rollout plan(for people using the att iphone 5). you need a special micro sim card for it to work. http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/07/t-mob...rk-in-large-number-of-markets-by-end-of-2012/
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You don't need a microsim for it to work afaik. It will work on any "AT&T" phone. And it should work on the GN since it is pentaband.
simms22 said:
thats part of tmobiles new iphone 5 rollout plan(for people using the att iphone 5). you need a special micro sim card for it to work. http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/07/t-mob...rk-in-large-number-of-markets-by-end-of-2012/
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SIM card size does not dictate frequency.
Even if 1900mhz is available, I'm sure that T-Mobile would prefer you stay on the surely more stable 1700/2100mhz combo at this point in time... likely a SIM issue though.
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SIM card size does not dictate frequency.
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But his old SIM probably doesn't support 1900mhz HSPA. Yes, he doesn't need a Micro SIM just to get the frequency, but he likely does need one of T-Mobile's new SIM cards that's properly provisioned for the 1900mhz connection. I think people are just getting confused over the fact that T-Mobile is pushing the Micro (soon to be Nano also) SIMs w/ 1900mhz for unlocked iPhone customers. It doesn't mean they're only used for iPhones, it just means that it's the primary reason they're switching frequencies and offering these to those customers specifically.
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Even if 1900mhz is available, I'm sure that T-Mobile would prefer you stay on the surely more stable 1700/2100mhz combo at this point in time...
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That's what it looks like. I wish there was a way to force 1900MHz.
rome425 said:
According to www.airportal.de there is 1900MHz tower right next to me, but my GN does not want to connect to it, even when the overall signal is low. Is there a radio update that will allow me to use 1900MHz band?
I checked what tower my phone is connected to by entering *#*#4636#*#* and CID does not match to the one on the site.
My radio is UGLH1
Thank you.
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Anyone else read that radio as "Ugly one"?
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Isn't the 1700mhz band better anyway?
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Isn't the 1700mhz band better anyway?
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"Better" how? And T-Mobile uses 1700/2100mhz combo, not just 1700mhz.
Most people would prefer 850mhz and 1900mhz because its interoperable with AT&T's frequencies, allowing a wider range of devices to be used on T-Mobile.
Lower the frequency better Penetration right.
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donsh00tmesanta said:
Lower the frequency better Penetration right.
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But like I said, T-Mobile doesn't use just 1700mhz, it uses the combined 1700/2100mhz AWS frequencies.
To the OP: Do you have a phone without AWS that you can use to test and see if you are actually picking up that tower? Or a non-Nexus Samsung phone that can be restricted using the band select menu.
martonikaj said:
But his old SIM probably doesn't support 1900mhz HSPA. Yes, he doesn't need a Micro SIM just to get the frequency, but he likely does need one of T-Mobile's new SIM cards that's properly provisioned for the 1900mhz connection. I think people are just getting confused over the fact that T-Mobile is pushing the Micro (soon to be Nano also) SIMs w/ 1900mhz for unlocked iPhone customers. It doesn't mean they're only used for iPhones, it just means that it's the primary reason they're switching frequencies and offering these to those customers specifically.
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I don't think a SIM card needs to be re-provisioned just because the carrier has a new frequency. All the folks who started seeing 3G on their unlocked iPhones were using SIMs they'd had for years.
martonikaj said:
"Better" how? And T-Mobile uses 1700/2100mhz combo, not just 1700mhz.
Most people would prefer 850mhz and 1900mhz because its interoperable with AT&T's frequencies, allowing a wider range of devices to be used on T-Mobile.
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It's not a combo. In Europe they don't refer to the IMT band as 1900/2100 combo, they just call it 2100. And they don't refer to the DCS band as 1700/1800, just as 1800. It's one band, and for the purpose of North America, "1700" as a band unambiguously means AWS. In Japan though there is a different 1700 band.
cmstlist said:
To the OP: Do you have a phone without AWS that you can use to test and see if you are actually picking up that tower? Or a non-Nexus Samsung phone that can be restricted using the band select menu.
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Like he said, he has a friend with an iPhone right there that gets HSPA service w/ T-Mobile. My assumption would be that he needs a new SIM, but again I'm not sure if that's the case, I'm not intimately knowledgeable of how T-Mobile is doing their provisioning.
It's not a combo. In Europe they don't refer to the IMT band as 1900/2100 combo, they just call it 2100. And they don't refer to the DCS band as 1700/1800, just as 1800. It's one band, and for the purpose of North America, "1700" as a band unambiguously means AWS. In Japan though there is a different 1700 band.
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Just because its sometimes referred to as 1700 doesn't mean that it doesn't use both 1700 and 2100 as a combination.
"The AWS band uses microwave frequencies in two segments: from 1710 to 1755 MHz for uplink, and from 2110 to 2155 MHz for downlink." (Wikipedia)
This is why it's referred to as "1700/2100mhz", although often just "AWS"
martonikaj said:
Like he said, he has a friend with an iPhone right there that gets HSPA service w/ T-Mobile. My assumption would be that he needs a new SIM, but again I'm not sure if that's the case, I'm not intimately knowledgeable of how T-Mobile is doing their provisioning.
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I don't understand why a new sim is required. People using old sims in iPhone's have been reporting 3G being available as T-mobile has turned on new markets with the new band.
I just changed my sim card about one month ago.
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This is why it's referred to as "1700/2100mhz", although often just "AWS"
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The problem is, even mentioning 2100 causes unnecessary confusion because for years before the band entered use, 2100 was already well established as referring to the 1900 up / 2100 down IMT band. It leads people - and you've seen them on the forums - to think that they can buy a device with IMT and use it on an AWS carrier.
So "1700" alone is actually less ambiguous.
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cmstlist said:
The problem is, even mentioning 2100 causes unnecessary confusion because for years before the band entered use, 2100 was already well established as referring to the 1900 up / 2100 down IMT band. It leads people - and you've seen them on the forums - to think that they can buy a device with IMT and use it on an AWS carrier.
So "1700" alone is actually less ambiguous.
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Just as ambiguous. Pretty sure calling it "1700/2100mhz AWS" is pretty clear. Not sure how dropping the 2100 part helps the ambiguity problem.
Calling it 1700mhz gives off the wrong impression, implying that it'd be better building-penetration wise, even though half of the traffic goes over 2100mhz which performs worse at penetrating buildings.
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Just as ambiguous. Pretty sure calling it "1700/2100mhz AWS" is pretty clear. Not sure how dropping the 2100 part helps the ambiguity problem.
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Because you want to tell customers, when they are trying to figure out if a phone is compatible, to look for 1700. Not for 2100. If you even mention 2100 they will get led down the wrong path. 2100 already had a meaning in the mobile world way back when IMT was first used for 3G service overseas in the year 2002. And the established meaning of 2100 as a cellular band is something that is not operated anywhere in North America.
Or, you can just tell customers to look for both 1700 and 2100 (AWS), which is both unambiguous, and correct. Whereas calling it simply 1700 is misleading. Customers who are shopping in the US are not likely to have heard of the 2100 band used overseas anyway, so your point is moot.
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Hey Guys,
Not sure where to ask at this point, but I know that there is a Verizon forum for the S4, but this is more T-Mobile inclined question.
My mom was given an S4 at her job from Verizon but I convinced her to give it to me since I wanted it and I gave her my Tmobile Note 2.
I put my sim card into the Verizon S4 and configured the APN setting so now im getting faster data speeds with the Verizon S4 than I was with my Tmobile Note 2. So everything works but the phone is in Global mode, which I dont really care at this point.
My question is though, how can I get the Verizon S4 to connect to the Tmobile signal cel-fi booster that I have. I have no service at my job so therefore I obtained one of the boosters offered by Tmobile, works great with my Note 2, but the S4 does not recognize the cel-fi booster.
Please advise...
I guessing the cell fi thing is for tmobile phone only. I'm sure tmobile don't want just anyone to use their products.
It's probably a firmware deal and not the SIM that recognized the cell fi.
☞ Sent from here☜???
Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
elite-fusion said:
Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
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Could it be a hardware issue? Tmobile special band which does noy jave in the verizon phone?
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
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Your best bet is to call T Mobile tech support and ask them. You've got a really obsscure question that probably has to deal with the frequencies the 2 devices communicate on that no one here has probably ever dealt with. T Mobile is going to be the quickest way to get this answer.
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Cel-Fi RS1 vs RS2
elesbb said:
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
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Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
laurent.gil said:
Guys,
I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.
The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS
BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...
Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...
It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)
Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...
Regards,
Laurent
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I have the RS1 (older one) got it for 90 bucks on ebay
Works great!
And since you work for Cel-Fi, does the RS2 model boost the LTE signal for T-Mobile or not? From what i am reading, it does not.
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
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Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
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They do, it switches to global mode (GSM) when you insert a non-verizon sim.. Most CDMA smartphones have this capability nowadays, which they did not before.. Verizon is the only carrier I know that does not lock the gsm radio on their phones, I think Sprint's phones are sim locked
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I'll sell the new cell-fi
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I have Cricket Wireless and I can only seem to get Edge speeds on my m7vzw.
What's weird is I have previously put a different Cricket SIM in the phone before the device was switched from Verizon to Cricket and I got H+.
The band frequency charts would suggest that I should get at least H+.
I'm using the ROM below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531235
I tried the Google Edition radio, just left me with no signal.
After that didn't get me anywhere I flashed m7vzw_5.28.605.2_1.13.41.0702_Radio, which gave me back the weak Edge signal again.
LTE/H+ was working fine before I ported from Verizon.
I don't know what Firmware the device is on, or how to check.
Any thoughts?
I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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Uzephi said:
I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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I do know cricket is starting to drop support on Sprint towers and by March of this year their phones will not reach Sprint towers. You might have still had some towers that were Sprint in your area a few weeks ago that finally don't work on Cricket anymore and you got forced to AT&T. It would be the only logical situation.
Is there a way to get one fully working on Metro?
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Doesn't Metro use Sprint's network? If so, then Sprint requires a CDMA phone. The ATT N4 is a GSM phone.
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It uses t-mobile network
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It uses t-mobile network
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Oh ok. In that case, TMO and ATT are both GSM. As long as the ATT Note 4 has the necessary Metro PCS bands, then the phone should work on that network once the phone is unlocked.
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That's what I'm trying to find out odds if the LTE bands are compatible
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That's what I'm trying to find out odds if the LTE bands are compatible
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So doing basic research on Google got me this info:
"In order to connect to the T-Mobile 3G / 4G network a device must support UMTS and HSPA technology in the AWS 1700/2100 MHz band and PCS (1900) band. The T-Mobile 2G network operates in the Personal Communications Services (PCS) (1900) band. To connect to this network a device must support GSM technology in the PCS 1900 band."
Source: https://www.metropcs.com/terms-conditions/network-disclosure.html
So you basically need a phone that supports 700, 1700, 1900, 2100 frequencies.
A T-Mobile phone would definitely work. Obviously. (You'd be able to root with one too if that tickles your fancy).
Now according to this site:
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...10a-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910t/1702936
A T-Mobile and ATT Note 4 supports different data frequencies:
Data:
ATT: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900
TMO: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900
SAME
2G:
ATT: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
TMO: GSM 850/900/1800/1900
SAME
3G:
ATT: UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
TMO: UMTS 850/1700/1900/2100
ATT version does not support the 1700 frequency, which is needed for Metro according to my first link.
4G:
ATT: LTE 700/850/1700/1900/2100/2600
TMO: LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100
The ATT version does not support the 900 or 1800 frequencies, but neither of these are necessary for Metro. Only 700, 1900, and 2100 are necessary, which the ATT version has.
Conclusion: The ATT Note 4 will MOSTLY work on Metro PCS. Voice calls, 2G and 4G should all work, but 3G wont.
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Yes I have an At&t Note4 on Metro Pcs! All I had to do is an IMEI carrier unlock! Cost me $45 bc I don't know the process! I reasearched it online and sounded too difficult!
Yes this is possible i just activated the at&t on tmobile today on a free network sim unlock phone only needs to be paid in full and off contract before they release it then activated on your metro account
I ported in my ATT Note 4 to Metro from ATT 3 years ago and it mostly works, but the screen often freezes and sometimes I do not receive calls and texts that friends send me (they show me a sent text on their phone that I never received, and say they called and left a voicemail, but there is no such call indication or voicemail on my end). Once you leave ATT, you no longer receive software updates from them and Metro can NOT send me software updates because my Note 4 was originally an ATT Note 4 that I had ATT unlock it in order to port over to Metro to save money (I pay $100 for 4 lines of unlimited talk, text, AND data). My family members got LG Aristo phones from Metro when we ported in and have no problems, only me because mine is an ATT Note 4 purchased from Target, originally locked to the ATT network. I wonder if the reason my ATT Note 4 screen is freezing and losing calls and texts is because I am NOT receiving the software updates and have no way to receive them? My Note 4 cost $750 originally and it would be more than adequate, IF it worked as it should. The problems may be a result of 1) NOT getting the auto updates, 2) NOT having 1700 MHZ for 3G and having 900 instead, as this blog indcates, or 3) some other unknown reason. Does anyone know? Does anyone have any suggestions or solutions, short of replacing the ATT Note 4 with a new phone from Metro?