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Why did you buy S-E Arc?

Hello everybody,
actually Im a big fan of HTC-Devices and Sense. Everything startet with a HTC Blackstone and Windows-Mobile. Currently Im using a HTC Legend and Desire (private & work).
Meanwhile Im bored of the Design of HTC. To thick to "normal".
So now the Xperia Arc comes in. Wundervoll design, thin and compare to the measures small. Disadvantage for me is the USB-Port on the side for the dockingstation (New trend?) and the missing front camera.
But mybe there are other advantages than the design that I missed.
Actually what I want to ask is, why did you buy the ARC?

grossermanitu said:
Actually what I want to ask is, why did you buy the ARC?
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I have also used many models of HTCphone, I have changed to SE Arc for 3 months.
With Arc I'm happy because it has a lot of things better than HTC phones such as Arc has good radio, clear sound, its screen looks like Bravia TV. With Arc's camera I can have a lot of very beautiful pictures on days or night especially with added software Arc can take nice panorama picture and more...

I'm a SE-fanboy, liking the Arc and my X10 started to reboot often so I got it.
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I like Sony Mobile Bravia Engine, the Reality Display and the arc shape.

reasons why i bought the Arc:
- I'm a big SE fan, had a X10 but was missing 'some things'(vague, i know)
- Big 4.2" screen (with the bravia engine it looks great)
- Really good camera quality in day & night(and it takes a picture fast)
- The design: just look at the thing man! (let's be honnest all phone in the xperia range look very good)

Most SE designs look like they are made to my taste. Or you can also say others make phones that look ugly to my taste .
But I wish SE can improve the build quality of their phones to feel more solid and use more metal. I find HTC phones to have much better build quality than SE phones but somehow their phone designs don't interest me.
Samsung is a joke. They just copy everyone. To me, their best looking phone is Captivate and it looks somewhat like X10.

I have a desire. It's nice but not as nice as the arc. The pictures, audio quality and radio on the desire is appalling.
After playing with an arc in a store the camera is excellent, the audio quality is superb the radio works and the screen is beautifull.....but why SE why have such crap build quality?
I am looking forward to the RAY and that may be my next phone.

Xperia ray is beautiful but smaller. For me... Arc is suitable. Smaller than Dell streak and bigger than ray.
Gunawan - GN Multimedia - Xperia Arc

Killingly cool design
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1. design 2. camera 3. interface design. After using an atrix i decided a dualcore wasn't worth it for what i needed to do and would rather trade it for the "curvaceous" arc. Brother has a SGS2 and it is awesome, but the stock samsung ROM really leaves a lot to be desired design wise. Have a look at their stock dialer. blegh.
edit: oh yea, cant forget about the screen. Perfect size and looks great.

gk_terato said:
1. design 2. camera 3. interface design. After using an atrix i decided a dualcore wasn't worth it for what i needed to do and would rather trade it for the "curvaceous" arc. Brother has a SGS2 and it is awesome, but the stock samsung ROM really leaves a lot to be desired design wise. Have a look at their stock dialer. blegh.
edit: oh yea, cant forget about the screen. Perfect size and looks great.
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Exactly my first thoughts. Dont know what happened to HTC. But hey a good chance to see sth. different.
Ps:I just bought my Arc on Amazon Warehousedeals 304,-€

i saw it and wanted it
looks good
good camera
and i dont need a front camera

gunawan-1 said:
Xperia ray is beautiful but smaller. For me... Arc is suitable. Smaller than Dell streak and bigger than ray.
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I actually enjoyed the fact that Ray is small, but still packs almost the same features of Arc, sometimes i fell the x10 is already too big and Arc is even bigger. But i'll wait a little longer until buying a new device, my old x10 still serves me well and there's a lot of cool stuff being released, i'm not even sure if my next phone will be a SE but i do like their designs a lot.

a friend took me to sony store
hold the arc, dummy set even (high quality ofcos) and fall in love, feels great in my hand, desire hd looks outdated
ditch my HTC desire HD for arc design, camera, better speaker, love the home button for turning on the screen rather then power button way up the top, and it feels great in my pocket, but usually protected in my waist pouch 95% of the time
if you wan speed and nothing else, sgs2 with dual core and 1gb of ram will be your choice

My main reason for buying it was for 100% live view compatibility...
how disappointed was I!!

For me, it's the design. Big screen with BE and of course, the caméra.
I always liked the design of SE phones and will like for their future designes.
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the price mainly
The brand
The camera
The screen size
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- Nice design, really sexy
- good camera for both picture and video
- stable performance.
- good brand
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Brand
Camera
UI
Screen
Design
Weight

* Looks
* Camera
* Screen
* Thinness (makes the phone pocketable despite the large screen)
* Rootable, Unlockable bootloader
The brand was actually a huge negative for me - i loathe and distrust sony. I only bought after i managed to convince myself that SE are an entirely separate company.

Xperia z vs Xperia ZL..A close comparison

Ok had a play with ZL and XZ in a local store..I am surprised by these things:
As we know most things about the XZ i wont go onto those points..rather ZL.
1. ZL is more brighter and better contrast than XZ..And no the values of calibration were set to 0 on ZL..i put up sony live wallpaper [purple] on both and ZL was visibly more brighter and vibrant!I Wonder what was sony thinking not giving its flagship that same screen? :/
2. Sound through headphones and speakers both were better on ZL..Dont know why? i can understand speakers bcoz of water proofing.
3. Easier to use due to small size and withe same size screen is a plus.
And alas i am confused :/ Dont wanna loose the build quality of XZ but want a brighter screen too!

Have any pictures that you can post for us?

randy_c said:
Have any pictures that you can post for us?
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I will be posing pictures and videos of mine in a few hours! Damn fedex didnt say it would had came yesterday doesnt even show on the tracking but they left a stupid note.

Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.

tenshi888 said:
Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
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Nah, its perfect fit on mine (one needs to press the flap firmly to make it fit flush). And it only looks elegant to me (i like it better than glass back on XZ), not to mention the better (more comfortable) grip it provides esp. for single hand use wrt XZ. I would suggest you to go n have a look at it in person. Also, i find the overall build quality of XZL better than my Xperia S and far better than my Note 2 :good:!
P.S: I compared the ZL screen with two XZs and found that it (ZL) screen had better contrast/vibrance than one XZ but no discernible difference with another one. The internal speakers on ZL are louder than Z. Then there are other apparent differences (size, placement of front & back camera etc.). One thing that i'm really enjoying on ZL is the notification LED at the bottom, pretty awesome n unique imo :victory:!

Dpk1 said:
Nah, its perfect fit on mine (one needs to press the flap firmly to make it fit flush). And it only looks elegant to me (i like it better than glass back on XZ), not to mention the better (more comfortable) grip it provides esp. for single hand use wrt XZ. I would suggest you to go n have a look at it in person. Also, i find the overall build quality of XZL better than my Xperia S and far better than my Note 2 :good:!
P.S: I compared the ZL screen with two XZs and found that it (ZL) screen had better contrast/vibrance than one XZ but no discernible difference with another one. The internal speakers on ZL are louder than Z. Then there are other apparent differences (size, placement of front & back camera etc.). One thing that i'm really enjoying on ZL is the notification LED at the bottom, pretty awesome n unique imo :victory:!
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Thanks for the information, i do love the ZL at least on paper. How's the shutter key, is there a long delay in opening the camera app after pressing it? Finally, does the phone feel thick at 9.8? Thanks again!

tenshi888 said:
Thanks for the information, i do love the ZL at least on paper. How's the shutter key, is there a long delay in opening the camera app after pressing it? Finally, does the phone feel thick at 9.8? Thanks again!
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Shutter key is good (actually better than my Xperia S). It launches the camera app in 1-1.5 sceonds from sleep (i.e no delay imo). Once camera app is ready, pressing the shutter key zaps the image with no delay/lag. And no, the phone actually doesn't feel thick to me, maybe because of the curved back. My note2 felt thicker (at 9.4mm). XZ is slimmer but not as much as one would think compared to ZL (given 7.9mm vs 9.8mm).

tenshi888 said:
Does the little door on the back for the sim/micro sd make the phone look cheap cause you can see it and it doesn't 100% look flush? I'm on the fence because I haven't seen the phone and it might make it look/feel cheap because of this.
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yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home

ethan3686 said:
yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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Lol.. certainly not! The sim/sd card slot door/flap fits snugly and doesn't look odd as you state. To prefer matte or glossy back is personal choice but i don't think anything with nice matte finish could be considered cheap! XZ is a beautiful phone, but i'm not a big fan of glossy back as it gets dirty easily (and then really looks cheap ), not to mention the odd / uncomfortable grip while holding an edged flat slab. And i think the front of ZL has killer looks, much better than XZ especially with the screen on & superb LED at bottom (due to same 5" screen fit onto much smaller bezel.. go figure)!
About the premium look or feel, I feel both XZ & ZL possess the premium looks but ZL has better feel in hand, its again personal preference! Currently don't have my camera, so can't post some nice pics of my ZL now. But i managed these from web (see attachments).

ethan3686 said:
yes it does look cheap as u can clearly see the gap as much as u push it in..it looks like an after jod..they shud have put it on the sides like the XZ.
And as far as looks and feel go u cant compare it to XZ..XZ just looks way more premium than ZL..ZL's front is great but the back looks cheap,,just holding the XZ makes u wanna take it home
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I agree that Sony should have put the SD and SIM slots on the sides. The assflap design choice makes no sense to me. However, that said, the ZL feels as 'premium' as the Z does. Now I am not saying this just because I have the ZL. I could have as well bought the Z, but it gets really uncomfortable to hold with to flat surfaces. Play with both for some time and you'll see

If there's a brightness difference between them, there's probably a water/dust related coating on the Z screen that isn't on the ZL.

ok just a correction..What i had seen was a demo unit which [i dont know why] has less brightness and contrast..Saw a retail Xperia Z and its very bright and there is no difference in Z AND ZL...Sorry for my not having researched!

Hmmm great comparison you have! Anyway I really like the waterproofing feature from the Xperia ZL!

AndroidDude11 said:
Hmmm great comparison you have! Anyway I really like the waterproofing feature from the Xperia ZL!
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Z or ZL - I made my choice!

After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.

anirudh412 said:
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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I had no choise to go with the ZL the Z I would get edge/2G here in the USA haha. But The ZL seems to sound better than the ZL, I came from the Note 2 and Loving it!
Are those headphones worth that much for them to give such a discount? WoW I looked them up they sell for a good 30-50 USD. Thats interesting for headphones that come with a phone.

anirudh412 said:
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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well, for me, obviously i would like to have the Z, but since there's no any information abou the releasing date, i placed the order of ZL..i am going to wait for the Z to come out and get the both/_\

greatremix said:
well, for me, obviously i would like to have the Z, but since there's no any information abou the releasing date, i placed the order of ZL..i am going to wait for the Z to come out and get the both/_\
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The Z has been out longer than the ZL, The Z is on Handtec, Negri, eBay, Amazon.
The Z has been out for a few weeks...

I initially thought I would like the clean lines of the Z, but at that size, such hard lines make it uncomfortable to hold. Now, if only they would make it in a 4.5-4.7 inch form factor, with the screen ratio of the ZL, it would be a perfect phone. Not to mention all the issues plaguing the Z, made the ZL a perfect choice for me :good:

anirudh412 said:
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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Where did u see Zl demo unit? its not there in Rajouri Garden

nikhiltanwar said:
Where did u see Zl demo unit? its not there in Rajouri Garden
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Sony Center in South Extension Part 1. They have both the Z and the ZL on display. I am betting it should be there in Select Citiwalk too.
On a side note, can someone point me to a guide as to how to remove the nav bar?

anirudh412 said:
Sony Center in South Extension Part 1. They have both the Z and the ZL on display. I am betting it should be there in Select Citiwalk too.
On a side note, can someone point me to a guide as to how to remove the nav bar?
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Why would you want to remove it? It would make the phone useless,

Loving my new Xperia ZL
anirudh412 said:
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
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I too chose the Xperia ZL over XZ. I agree with what u have said, and would also add that the sound on ZL is louder than Z. And i tested the screens and found that ZL has better screen (calibration perhaps?) viewing angles and colour vibrance than XZ (today i went back and confirmed it by checking 3 different XZ screens from 2 different sony stores). Also, physical camera key is a plus & the notification LED at bottom of ZL is an eye candy .
Lol, i was so moved by the ZL (the moment i saw it live in my hands) that i sold my note2 at once & bought the Zl (for a price difference of 6000INR). I also managed to get the Sony headphones (MDR-ZX100A worth 1490 INR) & the ZL tpu case (worth 1490 INR) free :good:.
@hyelton.. i too am coming from note2 & loving the ZL. The screen is gorgeous! Text appears crisp, no matter how small it is while browsing!

hyelton said:
Why would you want to remove it? It would make the phone useless,
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Check out LMT Launcher! Thats the first thing I install on any rooted android phone

anirudh412 said:
Check out LMT Launcher! Thats the first thing I install on any rooted android phone
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Oh okay I seen that on the Note 2, I couldnt get used to it. I still miss android 2.2 so I`m old fashioned I guess haha

Hi, can you please test USB host?
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Alright got it working!
Add "qemu.hw.mainkeys = 1" (without the quotes) at the end of the build.prop in /system and reboot. The nav bar disappears. Now the ENTIRE screen is usable! Awesome!!
EDIT: Make sure to install and setup LMT launcher before you do this. Also, make sure startup is set to AUTO in LMT

Dpk1 said:
I too chose the Xperia ZL over XZ. I agree with what u have said, and would also add that the sound on ZL is louder than Z. And i tested the screens and found that ZL has better screen (calibration perhaps?) viewing angles and colour vibrance than XZ (today i went back and confirmed it by checking 3 different XZ screens from 2 different sony stores). Also, physical camera key is a plus & the notification LED at bottom of ZL is an eye candy .
Lol, i was so moved by the ZL (the moment i saw it live in my hands) that i sold my note2 at once & bought the Zl (for a price difference of 6000INR). I also managed to get the Sony headphones (MDR-ZX100A worth 1490 INR) & the ZL tpu case (worth 1490 INR) free :good:.
@hyelton.. i too am coming from note2 & loving the ZL. The screen is gorgeous! Text appears crisp, no matter how small it is while browsing!
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Hey guys I have a Note 2 and I have been debating on selling it and getting the ZL ever since i saw it thats the phone i was waiting for to make the bezel as small as possible in a good screen size and zl did it. Im kind of getting tired of carrying a big Note 2 arround "dont get me wrong N2 is a beast". Couple of questing i love the speaker on N2 how does that compare on ZL and also how small is the ZL really is it smaller than the S3?

Ill prob check out the ZL when it hits AT&T, im between that and the s4. im kind of bored of samsung phones. I like a removable battery but its not a deal killer so we will see...

cheapshot789 said:
Hey guys I have a Note 2 and I have been debating on selling it and getting the ZL ever since i saw it thats the phone i was waiting for to make the bezel as small as possible in a good screen size and zl did it. Im kind of getting tired of carrying a big Note 2 arround "dont get me wrong N2 is a beast". Couple of questing i love the speaker on N2 how does that compare on ZL and also how small is the ZL really is it smaller than the S3?
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Hello there! I was in the similar situation as yours. I loved my note2 and it probably has the best battery backup among current android lineup. But i couldn't resist the ZL. Note2's internal speaker are definitely louder than ZL (by about 30% i would guess) and so is the default volume via earphones. But i find the sound quality much better on ZL (esp with clear audio mode) and default loudspeaker volume is higher on ZL.
About the size, it is significantly smaller than note2 & like the OP says, ZL has got stunning screen to bezel ratio (i think the best amongst all smartphones i've yet seen). GS3 is 5mm taller, 1.3mm wider and 1.2mm thinner as compared to the Xperia ZL. Smaller ZL yet packs 5" screen!

Has anyone tried the black and white one to see which one felt better?, I'm not so sure if I should get the black one, might not be used to the texture.

DJsCrIBbLe said:
Ill prob check out the ZL when it hits AT&T, im between that and the s4. im kind of bored of samsung phones. I like a removable battery but its not a deal killer so we will see...
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AT&T Most likely wont get the phone......

I also sold my note 2 for the Z but it just didn't feel comfortable to hold so i decided to give ZL a try and i am glad that i did. Love the ZL, the plastic back doesn't feel cheap at all.:thumbup:
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hyelton said:
AT&T Most likely wont get the phone......
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It just passed FCC for att pretty sure ...
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Pleased to UPGRADE from Z to ZL

Despite all the limelight is on the Z, I can said that I have no regrets on switching from the Z to the ZL. Although the Z has it's back glassed to have a premium look, it feels to large on the hand, yes it's slim but too boxy. Makes holding with one hand uncomfortable. One the other end, the ZL FEELS REAL COMFORTABLE. Although slightly thicker, the feel is really good, especially operating with one hand. The screen colors were on par with Z too. Camera wise, surprising that it performs slightly better then Z,. To me, Z feels like a Mercedes and ZL like an BMW. Solid, compact, powerful.

finoqq84 said:
Despite all the limelight is on the Z, I can said that I have now regrets on switching from the Z to the ZL. Although the Z has it's back glassed to have a premium look, it feels to large on the hand, yes it's slim but too boxy. Makes holding with one hand uncomfortable. One the other end, the ZL FEELS REAL COMFORTABLE. Although slightly thicker, the feel is really good, especially operating with one hand. The screen colors were on par with Z too. Camera wise, surprising that it performs slightly better then Z,. To me, Z feels like a Mercedes and ZL like an BMW. Solid, compact, powerful.
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But you have regrets?

oops!! Its NO REGRETS!!! LOL

finoqq84 said:
oops!! Its NO REGRETS!!! LOL
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LOL, u know what.. you lose waterproof function from Z.. Are u sure you wont regret at all?
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daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
LOL, u know what.. you lose waterproof function from Z.. Are u sure you wont regret at all?
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How much time you can actually keep your phone in water just like a kid,, looks crazy.....
On the other hand zl has better sound quality, more brighter screen and smaller size, plus IR REMOTE, though it is not of much importance for all, but still for some.
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thumbs up!! but hopefully it will not end up like Xperia ion, a pace slower then Xperia S in software update. Some ppl say ZL is a sacrifice, its real difficult to find a simple case here in singapore. Even sony has no stock/ :crying:

z5 Premium Dual or XZ dual

Guys help me to select any of the phone. I am already using z5 premium and I love it very much. My wife also want to use this phone so I have to buy another phone. Suggest me for which I have to go because I have two concerns (1) Screen size is 5.2 as compare to Z5 Premium and (2) there is no separate SD card slot. Help me to select the phone

If having dual Sims and sdcard slot in use at the same time is that important then the Z5P dual is the way to go.
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guhvanoh said:
If having dual Sims and sdcard slot in use at the same time is that important then the Z5P dual is the way to go.
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Thanks Dear.

I owned the XZ shortly for about a month before purchasing the Z5P. And I found myself liking the Z5P more. I'd keep it as a collectible item. Afterall, it was the first 4K phone. Personally, the XZ was a bit too small for me. Very choppy. I run both of the phones on AUR rom and the Z5P performs much better and faster despite having an older snapdragon. As far as the camera goes, the Z5P takes better picture. The XZ takes noisy and lesser quality pictures but better at video which i don't go a lot so it wasn't appealing to me. Another thing I dislike about the XZ is the build quality. It doesn't feel like a premium phone for $600. I dropped it one from 3ft and the side was chipped (made from plastic), the new material in the back is also very easy to get scratched or dinged. Now with the Z5P price at $500, I'd pick it over the XZ any day. It feels more luxury and the build quality is much better. People might say that you can't tell the difference between 4K and 1440p screen. But in my case, I enjoy the 4K a lot, the difference is there. My only dislike is the battery. It seems to drain a bit too fast for me but that might due to the draining issue with ViperAudio that AUR rom has.

Gkstates said:
I owned the XZ shortly for about a month before purchasing the Z5P. And I found myself liking the Z5P more. I'd keep it as a collectible item. Afterall, it was the first 4K phone. Personally, the XZ was a bit too small for me. Very choppy. I run both of the phones on AUR rom and the Z5P performs much better and faster despite having an older snapdragon. As far as the camera goes, the Z5P takes better picture. The XZ takes noisy and lesser quality pictures but better at video which i don't go a lot so it wasn't appealing to me. Another thing I dislike about the XZ is the build quality. It doesn't feel like a premium phone for $600. I dropped it one from 3ft and the side was chipped (made from plastic), the new material in the back is also very easy to get scratched or dinged. Now with the Z5P price at $500, I'd pick it over the XZ any day. It feels more luxury and the build quality is much better. People might say that you can't tell the difference between 4K and 1440p screen. But in my case, I enjoy the 4K a lot, the difference is there. My only dislike is the battery. It seems to drain a bit too fast for me but that might due to the draining issue with ViperAudio that AUR rom has.
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Thanks Dear my experience is also same. So I already bought Z5P. Thanks