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So why is my battery draining while charging?

I've noticed this happening any time I tether via USB or use GPS navigation while plugged in. Even though I'm connected and charging, I slowly but surely discharge. This weekend I used Google Nav for 2 hours and lost 20% of my battery while charging! On Juice Plotter, I notice the green charging glow at the bottom is a more transparent shade of green (as opposed to solid green when solely charging). Any ideas what causes this or how to avoid it? It seems to be recent.

TheBiles said:
I've noticed this happening any time I tether via USB or use GPS navigation while plugged in. Even though I'm connected and charging, I slowly but surely discharge. This weekend I used Google Nav for 2 hours and lost 20% of my battery while charging! On Juice Plotter, I notice the green charging glow at the bottom is a more transparent shade of green (as opposed to solid green when solely charging). Any ideas what causes this or how to avoid it? It seems to be recent.
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Let me guess, you're charging off a USB port in your laptop, or using the data cable that came with the phone in your car charger?
Not all USB sources (or cables, for that matter) are created equally. Most PC/laptop ports put out 500mAh, half of what the Evo is designed to take (the factory AC adapter, the wall plug, is 1000mAh, aka 1amp).
Since it's only getting half the draw it can't quite keep up with how much power you're sucking away from the battery. This is usually only present when using the device heavily, such as with the screen on and GPS or WiFi/3G actively running.
The charging indicator (at least on Sense) indicates if it's getting the full "AC" charge (1amp) or if it's getting a reduced current charge. Sounds like that's what you're noticing.
My wife's Samsung Moment charger is 700mAh/0.7amp, and it can keep my Evo steady during use (it's powering it for 3G+WiFi tether right now), but it doesn't really charge fast at all, basically it just keeps it from depleting.
I've been meaning to try one of the USB Y-cables that join 2 standard USB ports to one female port for combined power of 1amp, but I'm not sure it will work as I hope. Anyway, I'll report back if I get around to it.
Otherwise, use an actual 1amp AC adapter whenever possible. Shop on eBay, chargers are stupid cheap. Just look for one that says it can do 1amp/1000mAh. If you're using the phone at work and want to have a convenient charging source, get one of the $20 docking cradles with an AC adapter on eBay. If it's in your car, any 12v USB charger should work, as long as you use a proper pass-through charging micro USB cable and not a "data cable". There's a slight difference in how the pins are wired inside. The Rocket Fish brand of micro USB cables are known to work (that's how I charge mine at full power in my car).

Way to go GT. Are you a student? I'm an ME phd student.
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Let me guess, you're charging off a USB port in your laptop, or using the data cable that came with the phone in your car charger?
Not all USB sources (or cables, for that matter) are created equally. Most PC/laptop ports put out 500mAh, half of what the Evo is designed to take (the factory AC adapter, the wall plug, is 1000mAh, aka 1amp).
Since it's only getting half the draw it can't quite keep up with how much power you're sucking away from the battery. This is usually only present when using the device heavily, such as with the screen on and GPS or WiFi/3G actively running.
The charging indicator (at least on Sense) indicates if it's getting the full "AC" charge (1amp) or if it's getting a reduced current charge. Sounds like that's what you're noticing.
My wife's Samsung Moment charger is 700mAh/0.7amp, and it can keep my Evo steady during use (it's powering it for 3G+WiFi tether right now), but it doesn't really charge fast at all, basically it just keeps it from depleting.
I've been meaning to try one of the USB Y-cables that join 2 standard USB ports to one female port for combined power of 1amp, but I'm not sure it will work as I hope. Anyway, I'll report back if I get around to it.
Otherwise, use an actual 1amp AC adapter whenever possible. Shop on eBay, chargers are stupid cheap. Just look for one that says it can do 1amp/1000mAh. If you're using the phone at work and want to have a convenient charging source, get one of the $20 docking cradles with an AC adapter on eBay. If it's in your car, any 12v USB charger should work, as long as you use a proper pass-through charging micro USB cable and not a "data cable". There's a slight difference in how the pins are wired inside. The Rocket Fish brand of micro USB cables are known to work (that's how I charge mine at full power in my car).
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I'm using the included charging cable. Doesn't that have full capacity? I also use a standard USB adapter in the car. It seems like that would be able to output the correct amount of volts.
gtkansan said:
Way to go GT. Are you a student? I'm an ME phd student.
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3rd year CmpE.

I had the same problem until I noticed how hot my phone was using the nav. 13 hour drive. I purchased a vent cradle for the car and so that it can stay cool while in use and charging. While the other guy may be right theoretically, its not right practically. The evo will shut off its mini usb hub once it starts getting dangerously hot so that it won't damage your phone. Long story short make sure your phone is at safe temps no need to buy another charger for your evo. keep at cool temps so that phone won't cut off power supply will even shut your phone down if its way to hot, happened to me in atlanta not fun.
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TheBiles said:
I'm using the included charging cable. Doesn't that have full capacity? I also use a standard USB adapter in the car. It seems like that would be able to output the correct amount of volts.
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When you say "included charging cable" do you mean the wall plug that came with the Evo or just the cable with a USB connector on one end and a micro USB on the other end? Because THAT cable is pinned as a data transfer cable and designed to relay only half voltage no matter what you plug it into. I know, because it only charged my Evo at slow speed when plugged into my USB car charger. Once I replaced it with the Rocket Fish cable it charged at full speed.
kwilbur3 said:
I had the same problem until I noticed how hot my phone was using the nav. 13 hour drive. I purchased a vent cradle for the car and so that it can stay cool while in use and charging. While the other guy may be right theoretically, its not right practically. The evo will shut off its mini usb hub once it starts getting dangerously hot so that it won't damage your phone. Long story short make sure your phone is at safe temps no need to buy another charger for your evo. keep at cool temps so that phone won't cut off power supply will even shut your phone down if its way to hot, happened to me in atlanta not fun.
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See above. While I agree that heat will kill the battery and possibly trigger a shutoff, I don't think that's his problem. If you use the wrong cable or charger you will only get half charging current.

sprocket87 said:
When you say "included charging cable" do you mean the wall plug that came with the Evo or just the cable with a USB connector on one end and a micro USB on the other end? Because THAT cable is pinned as a data transfer cable and designed to relay only half voltage no matter what you plug it into. I know, because it only charged my Evo at slow speed when plugged into my USB car charger. Once I replaced it with the Rocket Fish cable it charged at full speed.
See above. While I agree that heat will kill the battery and possibly trigger a shutoff, I don't think that's his problem. If you use the wrong cable or charger you will only get half charging current.
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I mean the USB cable that comes in the box with the EVO that plugs into the AC adapter. Maybe I will look into a new cable then. Hmm.
Edit: Those Rocketfish cables that you mentioned seem to be ungodly expensive. No way in hell am I going to pay more than $5 for a USB cable. Any alternatives?

TheBiles said:
I mean the USB cable that comes in the box with the EVO that plugs into the AC adapter. Maybe I will look into a new cable then. Hmm.
Edit: Those Rocketfish cables that you mentioned seem to be ungodly expensive. No way in hell am I going to pay more than $5 for a USB cable. Any alternatives?
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This is the one I got: http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKETFISH-MOBI...ARGING-CABLE-/350384355972?pt=PDA_Accessories
$3 shipped
And there are 2 USB cables that came with the Evo (mine anyway), a thick one that was bundled with the wall charger and a thin one that's intended just for data sync. The thin one doesn't seem to charge at full speed.
If you're using the other one and it's STILL draining then maybe there is an issue with heat or something, like the other guy said. Is the phone SUPER hot at the base, where the kickstand is, when this happens?

OP - I am having the same problem. I'm 95% sure it's caused by something wrong in CM6 regarding how it handles USB charging. Past few nightlies I have been leaving my phone on the charger doing NOTHING overnight and it goes dead.
This CANNOT be due to lack of charging strength:
#1 the same exact charger worked perfectly in the past, before I flashed a certain nightly - not sure which one exactly it started in
#2 if it was charging, but slowly why in the world would the battery drain when I have it underclocked to 245 mhz and the phone is sleeping with screen off?
On my standard charger that came with the phone it is working fine even though it's a USB that plugs into an adapter - not sure why this doesn't work with my other one that I had from another phone since it worked perfectly before. Something is definitely odd with CM6 and USB charging.

sprocket87 said:
This is the one I got: http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKETFISH-MOBI...ARGING-CABLE-/350384355972?pt=PDA_Accessories
$3 shipped
And there are 2 USB cables that came with the Evo (mine anyway), a thick one that was bundled with the wall charger and a thin one that's intended just for data sync. The thin one doesn't seem to charge at full speed.
If you're using the other one and it's STILL draining then maybe there is an issue with heat or something, like the other guy said. Is the phone SUPER hot at the base, where the kickstand is, when this happens?
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That's odd, because my EVO only came with the one cable for the adapter. Phone stays cool.
berardi said:
OP - I am having the same problem. I'm 95% sure it's caused by something wrong in CM6 regarding how it handles USB charging. Past few nightlies I have been leaving my phone on the charger doing NOTHING overnight and it goes dead.
This CANNOT be due to lack of charging strength:
#1 the same exact charger worked perfectly in the past, before I flashed a certain nightly - not sure which one exactly it started in
#2 if it was charging, but slowly why in the world would the battery drain when I have it underclocked to 245 mhz and the phone is sleeping with screen off?
On my standard charger that came with the phone it is working fine even though it's a USB that plugs into an adapter - not sure why this doesn't work with my other one that I had from another phone since it worked perfectly before. Something is definitely odd with CM6 and USB charging.
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I've also noticed lately that my phone will charge insanely fast. Like from 30% to 90% in half an hour.

Sprocket - stupid question here... do these Rocket Fish charging cables also handle data transfer just as well as the stock micro-usb cable that came with the phone or would someone want to have one JUST for charging and keep their stock cable for data transfer purposes?

TheBiles said:
That's odd, because my EVO only came with the one cable for the adapter. Phone stays cool.
I've also noticed lately that my phone will charge insanely fast. Like from 30% to 90% in half an hour.
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Sorry I was unclear - the other cable I have that is the problem is one from another phone but the same type, and up until recently it worked perfectly.

[Q] Note 2 barely charging?

Hi guys,
Running omega v16 and have been very stable since I installed it a couple of months ago.
This morning I woke up and having been charging my phone overnight it was only on 40%?! Using it for a while it while plugged in made the percentage go down! Normally it slowly increases with use or fully charges when not used in about 2-3 hours.
I've rebooted and no use! A different charger doesn't seem to have helped things.
The galaxy charging app says max - 100, avg - 100, now - 1698. (http://www.imgur.com/QWO80GY.png)
If I unplug and plug it back in they all temporarily go to 1698 (but average 0) before slowly decreasing down to 100?. It's almost as though the battery is reporting itself as full and not accepting charge?
Reboots haven't helped! I really need my phone to be guy charged for this evening so any tips would be great.
Thanks.
On 29% now n's it's been plugged in pretty much the whole time! Lowest brightness too.

Same happens with the Galaxy S3, sometimes it's because of the cable (you get a new genuine samsung charger+usb cable) and other times it's because of unstable current from the plug, which is rare and shouldn't happen if it worked before.
Some people also say stock kernel fixes it.
I would recommend the new charger/usb.

Skander1998 said:
Same happens with the Galaxy S3, sometimes it's because of the cable (you get a new genuine samsung charger+usb cable) and other times it's because of unstable current from the plug, which is rare and shouldn't happen if it worked before.
Some people also say stock kernel fixes it.
I would recommend the new charger/usb.
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Hi mate, Appreciate the quick response It was indeed the cable!
I hadn't even thought of that and was going straight to different USB chargers. The stock sammy cable & charger had previously worked fine but now wasn't, replacing the cable got me 1000 and 1400 'units' of charging (mA or mAh I think?) - far better than the 100 I was getting earlier on (and only just shy of the 1698 that the stock cable used to get).
Comparing the cable to a good one I would say that perhaps the centre pins are somewhat out of place, so maybe it wasn't making a good connection in the phone? Don't think I did anything nasty to it and I've always been really careful but I guess these things happen. At some point I'll be looking to order a new micro usb cable so if you know of any good ones or ones to avoid then please fill me in
Thanks!

Tamen said:
Hi mate, Appreciate the quick response It was indeed the cable!
I hadn't even thought of that and was going straight to different USB chargers. The stock sammy cable & charger had previously worked fine but now wasn't, replacing the cable got me 1000 and 1400 'units' of charging (mA or mAh I think?) - far better than the 100 I was getting earlier on (and only just shy of the 1698 that the stock cable used to get).
Comparing the cable to a good one I would say that perhaps the centre pins are somewhat out of place, so maybe it wasn't making a good connection in the phone? Don't think I did anything nasty to it and I've always been really careful but I guess these things happen. At some point I'll be looking to order a new micro usb cable so if you know of any good ones or ones to avoid then please fill me in
Thanks!
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Great
The genuine samsung usb cables are very good quality, micro usb cables are a little fragile and overtime they tend to have some problems.
You are getting the right-ish amount of mA now so you're good to go
(Optimal is 2000 for the note 2)
The phone charging slower is a security mechanism in the kernel that detects unstable current and throttles charging to a safe value to prevent damage, you can disable it in STweaks if you want to use the old cable but that's pretty risky.
Protip: the thicker the cable the better, usually.

Skander1998 said:
Great
The genuine samsung usb cables are very good quality, micro usb cables are a little fragile and overtime they tend to have some problems.
You are getting the right amount of mA now so you're good to go
The phone charging slower is a security mechanism in the kernel that detects unstable current and throttles charging to a safe value to prevent damage, you can disable it in STweaks if you want to use the old cable but that's pretty risky.
Protip: the thicker the cable the better, usually.
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It definitely felt and still looks like a great cable- shame it doesn't function as such I've kept the one that gave me 1400 as my new permanent charger cable for now but actually it wasn't doing anything else before so I may well just continue to use this one!
Ah that would be why then - it presumably detected it jumping all over the place as the pins made and lost connection - but I love my note and think I'll avoid messing with any tweaks that could break it! Think I'll just stick to a new cable
Really appreciate your advice!

I would like to add on...there are people who changed the cables and adapters three Times at the phone store but to no avail.... some believe these cables are faulty from the factory...one guy went to the extent of building his own cable..the guy is good with electricity/electronics concepts (amps, voltage, resistance, watts etc) and funny another guy wanted him to build a custom cable for him and sell it to him here on XDA lol
I faced the same issue..I just threw away the note II adapter..I use my Samsung Galaxy S II cable and it charges decently fast not sure if will be as fast as the original due to minor amp differences but it charges fast and the cable is much longer
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dead soul said:
I would like to add on...there are people who changed the cables and adapters three Times at the phone store but to no avail.... some believe these cables are faulty from the factory...one guy went to the extent of building his own cable..the guy is good with electricity/electronics concepts (amps, voltage, resistance, watts etc) and funny another guy wanted him to build a custom cable for him and sell it to him here on XDA lol
I faced the same issue..I just threw away the note II adapter..I use my Samsung Galaxy S II cable and it charges decently fast not sure if will be as fast as the original due to minor amp differences but it charges fast and the cable is much longer
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Could be a faulty batch, Samsung changed my S3's cable/wall adapter here in Qatar for free, so I won't complain.

Skander1998 said:
Could be a faulty batch, Samsung changed my S3's cable/wall adapter here in Qatar for free, so I won't complain.
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could be.... but the point I'm trying to make even if you don't get a good galaxy note II adapter you could use other Samsung micro USB adapters like galaxy s II adapter I'm using but the voltage could be lower and charging may be slower but faster than the faulty adapter
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dead soul said:
could be.... but the point I'm trying to make even if you don't get a good galaxy note II adapter you could use other Samsung micro USB adapters like galaxy s II adapter I'm using but the voltage could be lower and charging may be slower but faster than the faulty adapter
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True, it isn't the voltage, it's the amps.
With an S3 charger the Note 2 will charge twice slower.
The S2 charger will charge even slower.
The S3 charger is 5V/1A
The Note 2 charger is 5V/2A
The S2 charger is 5V/0.7A

yea right !!! I can charge my note II in one and a half to two hours with my s II charger...it's ok for me me used to it now
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Charging The 10.1

I lost the original charger to my 10.1 2014 Edition and I've had problems ever since. Earlier this week I thought I would order a Limefuel 24W 4.8A dual port rapid charger. I thought to myself: Hey I can untick Power saving and have all my needed apps running. Even using a root mod to run 4 way multitasking. Yet it's still sucking up more juice than the charger is spitting out. Am I doing something wrong or did I get a faulty unit from China? This was NEVER a problem when using the Damn Samsung charger along with the foreign adapter dongle it shipped with. I thought getting one so powerful would charge it even faster.
Maybe I should just ship it back and get an official unit from Samsung? Although I don't see how getting less energy will make the tablet charge any better

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I lost the original charger to my 10.1 2014 Edition and I've had problems ever since. Earlier this week I thought I would order a Limefuel 24W 4.8A dual port rapid charger. I thought to myself: Hey I can untick Power saving and have all my needed apps running. Even using a root mod to run 4 way multitasking. Yet it's still sucking up more juice than the charger is spitting out. Am I doing something wrong or did I get a faulty unit from China? This was NEVER a problem when using the Damn Samsung charger along with the foreign adapter dongle it shipped with. I thought getting one so powerful would charge it even faster.
Maybe I should just ship it back and get an official unit from Samsung? Although I don't see how getting less energy will make the tablet charge any better
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4.8 amp should do the trick. Could be a fake unit. Is it heavy? 4.8 amp is pretty much, so it should be as big as a lap top charger.
But remember , a cheap usb cable may also be the problem. Try a short one of good quality.
Edit.Just tried a 1.2 amp Nexus 5 charger on my P605. Charging good on full brightness.
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KnieveI

KnieveI said:
4.8 amp should do the trick. Could be a fake unit. Is it heavy? 4.8 amp is pretty much, so it should be as big as a lap top charger.
But remember , a cheap usb cable may also be the problem. Try a short one of good quality.
Edit.Just tried a 1.2 amp Nexus 5 charger on my P605. Charging good on full brightness.
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KnieveI
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The charging circuitry and s/w on the device determine charging speed. Do a search. Someone posted the different charging amperages using the stock charge and Apple and HTC chargers and USB cables. The device detected the latter and charged at about half of the former.

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BarryH_GEG said:
The charging circuitry and s/w on the device determine charging speed. Do a search. Someone posted the different charging amperages using the stock charge and Apple and HTC chargers and USB cables. The device detected the latter and charged at about half of the former.
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Yes thats obvious and i doesnt even need to " do a search ".
The problem was it wouldnt charge at all.
Thanks
Knievel

Does the p600 also not charge correctly with a non samsung charger? I remember my p1000 requiring an adapter that had a resistor between two connections to charge correctly at a laptop or different charger.
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what do you use to charge sw3?

what do you use to charge your sw3 ? i was charging it with an ASUS charger (100-240v) and after 20min the watch was very hot ! It's normal ? what kind of charger do you use ?

I use a genuine samsung charger (From a S4) and it gets hot too. I don't we should worry...

I checked the amps it draws from charger it showed ~.520 from wall charger, same as USB.

stupid design , its not easy to put the cable into the mini usb port
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1. It is micro USB, not mini
2. There is always sacrifice in favor of ip68, I prefer waterproofing. But wireless qi charging would be good.

my mistake , anyway how long do yall get it fully charged? mine take pretty fast , can see percentage move up 1% in a few seconds , the watch has some heat up during charge .
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kimbap said:
my mistake , anyway how long do yall get it fully charged? mine take pretty fast , can see percentage move up 1% in a few seconds , the watch has some heat up during charge .
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30 mins :good:

king conan said:
I use a genuine samsung charger (From a S4) and it gets hot too. I don't we should worry...
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Does it gets hot when charging directly from a laptop? The charger of a S4 probably deliveres around 1200mA where a laptop usually does only around 500.. A tablet charger even more..
I think quick charging (many times) is no good for battery life on long term! Except when the internal charging chip does limit it the right way. But when it gets hot[emoji6]
BTW Correct me if I'm wrong..
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Mine limits it at ~540mamps from 2A wall charger. Also, never seen it really hot, warm yes, very warm yes, but not dangerously hot.

I have bought a Sony Smartwatch 3 for my husband for Christmas but I have no idea about power adapters and am afraid to use the wrong one. The Sony site simply recommends we use Sony adapters (of course they would) but they don't even say which one or what spec is required. In our household we have adapters for the following devices:
Nexus 4
Nexus 5
Nexus 7 (both versions)
Nexus 10
Different chargers have different specs and I don't know whether this is all important. Can I use any of these chargers with their cables (as I think the watch cable is rather short too)? I don't want to damage the watch using the wrong power adapter. I'm in the UK.

I got my watch yesterday and today I broke the plastic hinge on the charging port cover.
It's not completely broken thankfully just bent over, be careful they are not very strong.

2 hours to fully charge
It takes me 2 hours to fully charged (from can't switch on at all till showing 100%)
I am using the Samsung Note 3 Original Charger with the original Sony Cable provided.
Anyhow, this is my second time charging my watch.. have to monitor....

I used usb cable to charge my SW3, power-on from 0% to 100%. It took me almost 1 hour. At the beginning, the percetage was aurgemented very quickly. But at the end it took 12min from 99% to 100%

Calvin Gross said:
I used usb cable to charge my SW3, power-on from 0% to 100%. It took me almost 1 hour. At the beginning, the percetage was aurgemented very quickly. But at the end it took 12min from 99% to 100%
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it is normal, the last percents are charged slower, that phase is called "topping off", uses low and/or pulsed current

It doesnt mater beacuse usb can power 5v devices so you can charge it ..... I would prefer the charger of nexus 5

5V, 3amps
the Snapdragon 400 has Quick Charge 2.0 that can draw as much as 3 amps. My samsung galaxy note 3 charger is only 2 amps, but already charges the watch fairly quick.

kimbap said:
stupid design , its not easy to put the cable into the mini usb port
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I'll take the difficult port with the ability to charge with a cable I almost certainly have close by any day. I would love to have Qi charging, but when I'm overusing my watch at work or on the go and need to charge, no problem. I have a micro-USB cable close by. I wouldn't have a Qi charging station with me at all times.

I use a right angled cable, makes it much easier to pop the cable into the port. And those people who have broken the cover or are having difficulty, are you gorillas or something?

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I'll take the difficult port with the ability to charge with a cable I almost certainly have close by any day. I would love to have Qi charging, but when I'm overusing my watch at work or on the go and need to charge, no problem. I have a micro-USB cable close by. I wouldn't have a Qi charging station with me at all times.
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This x10000. Just better placement would of been nicer.
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Just thought of something else (that's actually on topic). I use the micro-USB that came with my Harmony 700 remote (I have 2 and both cables fit the same). It is actually a loose fit so it slides in and out of the Smartwatch 3 quite nicely. My girlfriend used to use it in her S3 but it kept popping out so I took it for my watch and found it works wonders. Since the SW3 seems to have a tighter fit micro-USB port, using a looser cable works nicely. It still stays in, but is so much easier to get in and out.

Very slow charging problem

Hi, I brought a Nokia 6, for my 11 year old son about a month ago.
It was fine until about 4 days ago, when fast charging stopped working, and it only charges very slowly. If the phone is switched off, then it charges at a rate of about 4% per hour, so an overnight charge will charge the battery from empty to about 35%. If the phone is booted but otherwise idle, then the charger will just about keep up with power consumption and the battery percentage does not increase or decrease.
I have tried multiple chargers, cables and power banks. It makes no difference. The fact that I get slow charging when the phone is off suggests that the culprit is unlikely to be a battery draining app.
There is a suspicion of hardware damage, as my son may have pulled the charging cable out, or pushed it in too hard, bent it sideways or the like, though the set of symptoms is odd for a hardware issue, and feels more like software, and in any case the USB type C connector is normally very robust.
The phone is running the latest stock firmware from Nokia. It is not rooted unlocked or the like.
Has anyone seen anything similar? Can you suggest what I can do to investigate the problem further?

Did any of those support Qualcomm quick charge 3 or 4? Try installing Ampere on his phone and check the current from a fast charger with a good USB C cable. If it shows something in the neighborhood of 1500mA to 2300mA this is a software problem. Otherwise this is a hardware problem from somewhere along the circuit. At best all cables you tested are bad. At worst your phone needs a repair.

ap4ss3rby said:
Did any of those support Qualcomm quick charge 3 or 4? Try installing Ampere on his phone and check the current from a fast charger with a good USB C cable. If it shows something in the neighborhood of 1500mA to 2300mA this is a software problem. Otherwise this is a hardware problem from somewhere along the circuit. At best all cables you tested are bad. At worst your phone needs a repair.
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Thanks.
I don't think any of the charges I used support Qualcomm quick charge, is it worth buying one on amazon prime to check?
I will install Ampere and report back.

chrestomanci said:
Thanks.
I don't think any of the charges I used support Qualcomm quick charge, is it worth buying one on amazon prime to check?
I will install Ampere and report back.
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If you are the type to charge your phone overnight I don't think you need it unless you forgot. Running with a 50-70
Battery is better than having a dead battery, so it is worth it for the safety of mind.
My Nokia charger seems to support it out of the box. It has [email protected], [email protected] and [email protected] Depending on where you got it yours could very well be similar to mine.

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Did any of those support Qualcomm quick charge 3 or 4? Try installing Ampere on his phone and check the current from a fast charger with a good USB C cable. If it shows something in the neighborhood of 1500mA to 2300mA this is a software problem. Otherwise this is a hardware problem from somewhere along the circuit. At best all cables you tested are bad. At worst your phone needs a repair.
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I installed Ampere, and it is reporting charge rates of 150 to 450 mA using a generic charger and cable, that works fine with my OnePlus phone. I will have to find the original Nokia charger to be sure, but it does look like some sort of hardware issue.
Thanks.

chrestomanci said:
I installed Ampere, and it is reporting charge rates of 150 to 450 mA using a generic charger and cable, that works fine with my OnePlus phone. I will have to find the original Nokia charger to be sure, but it does look like some sort of hardware issue.
Thanks.
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Yeah I noticed the phone is picky about what charges it and what doesn't, probably the phone playing it safe with keeping the lithium in good condition.

ap4ss3rby said:
Yeah I noticed the phone is picky about what charges it and what doesn't, probably the phone playing it safe with keeping the lithium in good condition.
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Interesting. I have charged my TA-1068 on all types of chargers. All have worked within an average amount of time. I wonder if different models are more or less picky. To me, it sounds as if the charging port might be damaged. Kids tend to be tough on equipment.

BoloMKXXVIII said:
Interesting. I have charged my TA-1068 on all types of chargers. All have worked within an average amount of time. I wonder if different models are more or less picky. To me, it sounds as if the charging port might be damaged. Kids tend to be tough on equipment.
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True, the phone itself might be one or two steps from being a brick with a decent smartphone inside but ports are not always invincible.

Quick update: I took the phone back to the store, and the store decided that it was probably a defect in the phone (not user damage) so they have sent it to Nokia for warranty work. With luck I should get it back repaired in a week or so.
I will post again to report the outcome.

I too noticed this traveling
ap4ss3rby said:
Yeah I noticed the phone is picky about what charges it and what doesn't, probably the phone playing it safe with keeping the lithium in good condition.
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If i use the OE charger its fine but once i tired to use the USB port on my car stereo or cig lighter USB adapter it actually drained the battery and it wouldnt prompt a USB charging curtain notification but it would show the lighting bolt/battery icon. Or the notification curtain would display the last thing i used USB for like moving pictures instead of every other phone ive ever owned which would default to USB charging