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Battery does not charge when the phone is in use!

Hi guys
Im having a weird problem with the battery. It seems battery doesnt charge when im using the phone although it says and shows it charging! It just stays at the same battery percentage it doesnt charge or drain! When i turn off the screen it charges the battery just fine. I called o2 UK where i bought the phone, the rep said when i use the phone it consumes more power than it gets. Can this be true?! Do you think its just a software bug or defective hardware or defective battery?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

This is true if you're charging from the USB on your computer. USB ports only provide 500mA. The phone seems to use more than this if you are actively using it. I recommend using a wall plug that provides at last 1 Amp (1000ma) to effectively charge the phone.

How about car chargers? Same thing happens when its charging with the car charger..
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

If I'm not mistaken, any car charger, whether it's rated at .5A, 1A, or 2.1A is only going to provide .5A to your phone using a typical USB cable. The USB cable that came with your phone has +/- lines for power as well as 2 data lines. If you pickup a "charging only USB cable" it has the data lines shorted so that only the power lines are functional. This type of cable would allow you to take advantage of the higher current 1A and 2.1A chargers - I think anyway. I'm still new to Nexus so I haven't confirmed that, but that's the way it worked on my old phone. I did read somewhere that even with a charging only cable someone wasn't able to pull 1A from their car charger so I don't know if that was a unique issue or if the Nexus doesn't behave the same way. My understanding is the amount of current pulled from the charger is dependent on the charger AND the phone. Using a special charging cable tricks the phone into thinking it's on A/C I guess.

Charging the E4GT with non oem adapter

The original Samsung charger outputs 5V---1000ma, I have an extra blackberry micro usb charger that outputs 5V---750ma.
I want to use my old blackberry charger in my office, will this different current output affect my battery long term or short term?

edlivian said:
The original Samsung charger outputs 5V---1000ma, I have an extra blackberry micro usb charger that outputs 5V---750ma.
I want to use my old blackberry charger in my office, will this different current output affect my battery long term or short term?
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One of the immediate side effects will be that your phone will take a longer time to fully charge your battery.
If I helped you out in any way please thank me. Thanks.

Not sure how the blackberry chargers are. I know some of the Motorola chargers are accepted by the phone for high current charging (any charger that doesn't puts the phone in low current mode).
I charge my phone every night on my old 700mah Samsung charger and while it does take longer youd hardly notice unless you were trying to get as much charge in say an hour as possible. So as long as the phone doesn't limit it you should be good. <500mah is very noticeable.

I know it will take longer to charge. But Im not as familiar with appropriate charging output for li-ion as i am for ni-mh Sanyo eneloops for example that ideally should be charged at 220ma to maximize cell life.

edlivian said:
I know it will take longer to charge. But Im not as familiar with appropriate charging output for li-ion as i am for ni-mh Sanyo eneloops for example that ideally should be charged at 220ma to maximize cell life.
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The rule still applies the less current used to charge the better the lifespan. The phone was paired with a battery with the intention of using a 1 amp charger. The phone will only allow high current charging mode if it thinks the charger is Samsung. Shorting the data pins is a way to fool it and many aftermarket chargers already do this.
With your phone on and the phone in low current mode (320 mah i believe) you will have a hard time charging the phone if anything is wake locking the phone even screen off. You will even have trouble charging and using the phone at 500mah depending on whats going on.
The phone will be eating some amount of power from the charger, the battery is not always seeing as much current as you might think. I always stick by the practice of not deep discharging it, LiION would rather be topped off then not charged (geeze remember NiCad laptop batteries.... lol). I feel this battery will be the shortest lifespan of any phone or laptop I have ever had. Just due to how much use it sees.

Charger
Any micro usb charger should work. I've had a dozen or so different gadgets that all use micro usb from Blue Tooth headsets, to speakers. I use all chargers interchangeably with one noteable exception. My wife's Nook Tablet will only charge using the provided Nook charger. Found that out the hard way.
I have also found that not all micro usb cables will provide data transfer for all phones. I'm guessing different pin-outs? For instance when I was trying to root my ET4G, I forgot my OEM cable at home so I tried to use my EVO cable. That dind't work well at all.

My old blackberry chargers seemed to work fine but I started seeing some strange jumping around of the battery while using. For instance it would all of a sudden jump up to 100% charged then if I unplugged and plugged back in it would go back to 70% or whatever. I went back to only samsung or just charging off usb. I use my pc, printer, cable box etc to charge my phone.

I charge mine with either the stock charger that came with my E4GT, or an old 700MAh charger that came with my old Samsung Rant. Occasionally I use the charger that came with my HTC Evo 4G. I really can never tell a difference. Although, like someone above said, it seems as if non-Samsung usb cables will not charge when plugged into a computer. That's how it is with the HTC cable, and I've also tried an LG usb cable and got the same results.
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BBJon said:
I have also found that not all micro usb cables will provide data transfer for all phones. I'm guessing different pin-outs? For instance when I was trying to root my ET4G, I forgot my OEM cable at home so I tried to use my EVO cable. That dind't work well at all.
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Really? I rooted and always use Odin using an HTC cable...

EggosEvo said:
I charge mine with either the stock charger that came with my E4GT, or an old 700MAh charger that came with my old Samsung Rant. Occasionally I use the charger that came with my HTC Evo 4G. I really can never tell a difference. Although, like someone above said, it seems as if non-Samsung usb cables will not charge when plugged into a computer. That's how it is with the HTC cable, and I've also tried an LG usb cable and got the same results.
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I had the exclaim, the replacement to the rant and thats where my 700mah charger came from.
All of my other Micro USB cables except the one are non samsung and I use them all for charging, data and they charge while connected to pc. But none of them are from other phone manufacturers or anything. The Micro USB spec is what these phones are using there is no difference.
The difference that matters most of the time is tolerances. Its easy to end up with cables that will work well in one port but not another. The rest of the cable may also be out of spec and not work well or at all for certain purposes.

I've ruined two batteries because of non-OEM chargers on the ET4G. (Actually, ruined two, and made a third battery just render terrible performance.) I definitely don't have the problem with other devices I own, and it's definitely happened with two separate ET4G's I've owned.
So, "be very careful using alternate chargers" is all I would advise.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't electricity the same no matter the source?
If the phone is looking to pull 1A and your charger is rated for .7A I'd be worried about the charger not the battery, which technically is a cell not a battery.
Tolerances were mentioned before and I think that is most of the problem with certain cables working fine for some people and not others. All connectors and cabling are supposed to meet the USB spec and many cheap ones don't. Also the supposed 10,000 insertion rating for micro USB is a bit optimistic imo. I replace cables after a couple months max because of loose connections.
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dberend said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't electricity the same no matter the source?
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Not really because these chargers are doing AC to DC conversion and voltage regulation is a huge factor in its job. With a bad charger design not only can charging be affected, possibly even hurt the battery. Since the phone will consumer charger power to run while on the charger the phone can become unstable. Not talking a defective charger, just bad and cheap designs.
dberend said:
If the phone is looking to pull 1A and your charger is rated for .7A I'd be worried about the charger not the battery, which technically is a cell not a battery
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I think about that alot actually. Coming from PC power supplies you never want to overload the unit. But I know for a fact I have devices that demand more from chargers than can be given, and do not have the low current and high current modes like this phone.
I am no electrical engineer and am only familiar with AC to DC and DC to AC circuits and various voltage regulation techiniques. But it is possible to current limit as well right? You design a half amp charger, with the data pin short to put the Samsung into high current. You limit the current to 500 mah but over build the components just a little to increase lifespan.
Anyways, I bought a 2.1 Amp RCA wall charger from walmart last night on a wim. 9 bucks, might come in handy when i get a tablet. Has a 1 Amp side and a 2.1 Amp thats shared with the 1 Amp. Phone didn't show any ill will to it and I had my Schosche GoBatt on the 1 amp end. If the phones drawing too much current could be bad in the long run but its working so far. Charged at the normal speed of the stock charger.

RainMotorsports said:
Not really because these chargers are doing AC to DC conversion and voltage regulation is a huge factor in its job. With a bad charger design not only can charging be affected, possibly even hurt the battery. Since the phone will consumer charger power to run while on the charger the phone can become unstable. Not talking a defective charger, just bad and cheap designs.
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I agree with you on bad and cheap designs. How many tv's and other electronics have been rendered useless by a few substandard capacitors that saved the manufacturer $.02 per unit?
I try not to use any charger that doesn't have HTC, Samsung, etc on the label. I figure if they were willing to back it warranty wise for the original device it should put out clean enough power.
I'm far from being engineer but I do quite a bit of hardware hacking and learned a little bit about electronics when I was at Ft Gordon. So I'm not completely lost around a multimeter
I would imagine that there is some protection built into the charging circuit of the phone itself. How effective or what kind of tolerance Idk suppose I could look for datasheets if anybody really cares.
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Slow Charging

When I plug in my power adapter to charge the tablet more often now I get the Slow Charging notification that says battery is charging slowly due to low electric current of TA/USB connection. Any one else seeing this? I am using the stock charger supplied with the tablet. I have tried this on several AC outlets in several different locations. It does not seen to affect the ability to charge the tablet it just charges it a little slower.

MarkLI88 said:
When I plug in my power adapter to charge the tablet more often now I get the Slow Charging notification that says battery is charging slowly due to low electric current of TA/USB connection. Any one else seeing this? I am using the stock charger supplied with the tablet. I have tried this on several AC outlets in several different locations. It does not seen to affect the ability to charge the tablet it just charges it a little slower.
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i havent experienced this message except for when i connect the tablet to the pc where the electric current is indeed low

katsika said:
i havent experienced this message except for when i connect the tablet to the pc where the electric current is indeed low
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Thanks for the reply. I am starting to think my power adapter is not putting out the correct current it should be. I will try using a different 2A charger and see how it goes.

MarkLI88 said:
Thanks for the reply. I am starting to think my power adapter is not putting out the correct current it should be. I will try using a different 2A charger and see how it goes.
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You might also try a different cord!

You may try to install "battery monitor widget", it will tell you charging in USB mode or AC mode.
I also find the stock LG charger slow charging, the widget shows I'm only charging at around 1100mA max. While the charger itself label said Output 1.8A max. I can't reach this level yet.
If I charge with a stock nexus 7 charger (which is 2A rated), it'll get worse...just reach around 800mA max.
I'm still not sure what's wrong with the charger or the tablet itself...

I can say that the cable that came with the gpad does charge faster than a thinner cable I had. Both were tested plugged into the stock LG charger.
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When I pulled my g pad out of the box and saw the stock charger was below 2A I put it back in the box. I charge my tablet with the 2A charger that my note 2 uses.

I've seen this problem intermittently with the stock LG charger and today it seems to have become a permanent fault. Swapping to my Note 3 charger things are back to normal once more. Swapping back and forth repeatedly the LG charger triggers the warning and the Note charger is fine. It looks like the LG charger is a bit rubbish. I'll press for a warranty replacement.

I have noticed mine recharges really slowly as well. Using the stock charger, and the battery app previously mentioned, it gives me about 1.1A from the stock charger. Using my Vita charger rated at 1.5A I get about 1.4 into the G Pad. It seems their charger just stinks.
I sent them a support query to see if they will replace it without hassle, if they want me to send it back I'll just buy something else instead.
Edit: Heard back from LG, they want me to send the whole thing back to them or return it to Newegg. Not sure why they won't just ship me a replacement charger, it would be much cheaper for them in the long run.

tdodd said:
I've seen this problem intermittently with the stock LG charger and today it seems to have become a permanent fault. Swapping to my Note 3 charger things are back to normal once more. Swapping back and forth repeatedly the LG charger triggers the warning and the Note charger is fine. It looks like the LG charger is a bit rubbish. I'll press for a warranty replacement.
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Further investigation revealed the original cable to be at fault, as it would not make a data connection with either of my laptops. Another cable from my old Galaxy Note worked perfectly. Even so there is still a question mark about the charger as well. Today I spoke to an LG support rep who promised to send a new charger and cable. They should arrive within five working days. I had read of mixed opinions on LG's support, but so far it all seems encouraging.

[Q] LG Optimus G E973 Charging Time Issue

Hi Everyone.
I have a question about my used phone LG Optimus G E973. It charge very slowly. It always take about 6 hours for a full charge. If I use the phone, the charging percentage won't go up but go down slowly even if It is being charged.
Is it normal for this model?

Rexkh said:
Hi Everyone.
I have a question about my used phone LG Optimus G E973. It charge very slowly. It always take about 6 hours for a full charge. If I use the phone, the charging percentage won't go up but go down slowly even if It is being charged.
Is it normal for this model?
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change the charger,.... mine too takes 6hrs on lg charger.. am using .5amp rated charger of lumia 520 .. it charges it in 2:30

I don't think because of charger. I use the same charger with my iPhone and it charge very quick.

Rexkh said:
I don't think because of charger. I use the same charger with my iPhone and it charge very quick.
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its becaus of that usb cable..... try different usb cable with same charger and it charges quickly.. :good:

krishnanmailbox1 said:
its becaus of that usb cable..... try different usb cable with same charger and it charges quickly.. :good:
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I did, still slow. I guess it my phone. I just want to make sure that all phones of this model are the same or just me.

Rexkh said:
I did, still slow. I guess it my phone. I just want to make sure that all phones of this model are the same or just me.
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Since the iphone has a different battery, the charger is also different.
To make sure your battery doesn't die, I suggest you use an LG charger, or at least a charger for a phone with the same amount of mAh on the battery (2100, in this case)

howaboudno said:
Since the iphone has a different battery, the charger is also different.
To make sure your battery doesn't die, I suggest you use an LG charger, or at least a charger for a phone with the same amount of mAh on the battery (2100, in this case)
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I've been using LG Charger to charge my LG phone. It's already the same model. And you? Do you have the same model as mine?

Rexkh said:
I've been using LG Charger to charge my LG phone. It's already the same model. And you? Do you have the same model as mine?
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I own the E975, which is slightly different, but the specs are the same and I have not run into this problem before. So I'm guessing it's an error in either the USB-cable or the phone's battery. I'm not sure though.

howaboudno said:
I own the E975, which is slightly different, but the specs are the same and I have not run into this problem before. So I'm guessing it's an error in either the USB-cable or the phone's battery. I'm not sure though.
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Too bad. So there is something wrong with my phone. Is your main power 110V or 220V? The power in my place is 110V. Sometime I get message "Slow Charging" when I connect my phone to the charger.

Rexkh said:
Too bad. So there is something wrong with my phone. Is your main power 110V or 220V? The power in my place is 110V. Sometime I get message "Slow Charging" when I connect my phone to the charger.
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I did a little research (I googled it) and that might just the cause of your problem. Many people have said that charging on a 110v outlet is not only slower but also less efficient. To charge your phone faster with a lower voltage oulet, they recommend to buy a charger that is specially made for that voltage, but that might not be a problem since also my charger (LG charger) supports voltages from 100V up to 240V.
"In a very layman terms, voltage is what drives the real power (amperes) into your device. So the lower your voltage as per specified rating then the lower the movement of power to your device.
However, when power moves slowly into your device, it stays longer"
I hope this gives you enough information concerning your problem

Sound like I'm lucky to have a phone which can be charged slowly. How many percents you get if you charge your phone for 15 minutes?

howaboudno said:
I did a little research (I googled it) and that might just the cause of your problem. Many people have said that charging on a 110v outlet is not only slower but also less efficient. To charge your phone faster with a lower voltage oulet, they recommend to buy a charger that is specially made for that voltage, but that might not be a problem since also my charger (LG charger) supports voltages from 100V up to 240V.
"In a very layman terms, voltage is what drives the real power (amperes) into your device. So the lower your voltage as per specified rating then the lower the movement of power to your device.
However, when power moves slowly into your device, it stays longer")
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I am sorry in advance, my comment is not directed at you personally, since you found this info online...
This is a complete and utter nonsense. It's not even funny, it's just dumb. First off, auto-sensing chargers will work with any AC mains within standard tolerances. 110V, 120V, 220V, 240V -- doesn't matter at all, the charger will output stabilized 5VDC, and will supply the current (Amps) up to its rated maximum. Also, saying that the voltage drives the amps is another BS. The voltage in this case doesn't change -- it stays at 5V (unless you have a crappy or defective charger, of course). Only the charging circuit in the phone determines the current that it draws from the charger.
Speaking of the OP's problem, there might be different reasons for a slow charge. All of them have already been mentioned in this thread. The easiest thing to check is to change the USB cable. Speaking from experience, I have two particular cables that consistently exhibit this issue -- it all depends on the conductors (wires) and the quality of connections. Grab another cable, and see what happens. Next step would be to change the charger for something rated higher (2A, for example). I am 99% sure either of these replacements will fix the issue. If neither of these things work, then there may be a problem with the battery, which can be replaced. The worst-case scenario is a problem with the phone itself (highly unlikely)...

kt-Froggy said:
I am sorry in advance, my comment is not directed at you personally, since you found this info online...
This is a complete and utter nonsense. It's not even funny, it's just dumb. First off, auto-sensing chargers will work with any AC mains within standard tolerances. 110V, 120V, 220V, 240V -- doesn't matter at all, the charger will output stabilized 5VDC, and will supply the current (Amps) up to its rated maximum. Also, saying that the voltage drives the amps is another BS. The voltage in this case doesn't change -- it stays at 5V (unless you have a crappy or defective charger, of course). Only the charging circuit in the phone determines the current that it draws from the charger.
Speaking of the OP's problem, there might be different reasons for a slow charge. All of them have already been mentioned in this thread. The easiest thing to check is to change the USB cable. Speaking from experience, I have two particular cables that consistently exhibit this issue -- it all depends on the conductors (wires) and the quality of connections. Grab another cable, and see what happens. Next step would be to change the charger for something rated higher (2A, for example). I am 99% sure either of these replacements will fix the issue. If neither of these things work, then there may be a problem with the battery, which can be replaced. The worst-case scenario is a problem with the phone itself (highly unlikely)...
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Guess I really shouldnt trust the internet that much, huh? Haha
But yeah that was the first thing I thought which caused the problem
Thanks for pointing out my mistakes

howaboudno said:
Guess I really shouldnt trust the internet that much, huh? Haha
But yeah that was the first thing I thought which caused the problem
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Well, explanations like those you quoted could be reasonable to some extent only if you have a really bad charger (either broken/defective, or just made like crap to begin with). I am talking about properly designed and functioning chargers. I have a wonderful example of a cutting-edge engineering from China sitting in my desk drawer: it's a microUSB car charger, which has direct connections from a 12VDC socket to microUSB pins, protected by a 5Amp fuse. Oh, and a cute red LED light, of course. :silly: When something like this is used, anything can happen... If a phone survives, it could be a good advertising for a phone's manufacturer: "Our phones work no matter how hard you try to kill them!"

As I already mentioned, I think it's neither charger nor cable problem. How do I guess that? Well,
1st, I charge my iPhone with iPhone cable and "A" charger. It charge very quick so "A" charger shouldn't be a problem
2st, I charge my iPhone with iPhone cable and LG Charger. It charge very quick so LG Charger shouldn't have problem.
3rd, I charge another android phone with "A" cable and "A" charger. It charge very quick so "A" cable has no problem.
4th, I charge my LG Optimus G E973 with "A" cable with LG charger. The charge is very slow.
Therefore, I guess, none of the accessories have any problem so I think I'm the only one in the world who have this problem.

Rexkh said:
As I already mentioned, I think it's neither charger nor cable problem. How do I guess that? Well,
1st, I charge my iPhone with iPhone cable and "A" charger. It charge very quick so "A" charger shouldn't be a problem
2st, I charge my iPhone with iPhone cable and LG Charger. It charge very quick so LG Charger shouldn't have problem.
3rd, I charge another android phone with "A" cable and "A" charger. It charge very quick so "A" cable has no problem.
4th, I charge my LG Optimus G E973 with "A" cable with LG charger. The charge is very slow.
Therefore, I guess, none of the accessories have any problem so I think I'm the only one in the world who have this problem.
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your phone usb port might be a defective one lol

My LG E975 used to charge frustratingly slow when I first bought (20 percent over 3 hours). Before taking it to warranty, I did test around to see what's the problem and found it was because of the cable. Some cables work better than the others though. I used the LG charger with the cable of my Sony phone -> still slow; with Asus tablet cable -> working normal (1 percent up every 1 - 1,5min).
Further testing, I used the "faulty" LG cable to charge my Asus tablet, and it worked fine. So (I guess) the USB port of the phone is just being picky on cables . Try charging with some other cables for a few minutes to see if any works for your phone.

any way to change the currents charging voltage in kernel? i have this issue with CM11 but not on stock

USB from computer and car charging really slow....

Hi Guys,
I have a thinkpad which has regular USB and also a fast charge USB port. They have worked fine in the past on other phones and I used to see at least 1 amp charge rates. (on the fast charge port)
Using either port on the 20 X I only get about 200 ma charging rates?
I'm using "Ampere" to get the charging rates, it is definitely charging slower than normal...
Have you guys noticed this?

Also of note, It charges really slow from my car as well. On the hour drive home the phone only went up 4%. (This is a VW using android auto)

I think all bets are off when your using 3rd party chargers. I think Huawei might have some official accessories that you may need to buy.

jeradjohnso said:
I think all bets are off when your using 3rd party chargers. I think Huawei might have some official accessories that you may need to buy.
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I have a bunch of phones and every single one of them charges at normal charging rates off my laptop and in my car, this is pretty strange...

Huawei uses a completely different setup from QC 3 from charger to cable . How does it charge with the supplied charger and cable that you received with your phone? If you buy extra chargers for home or car make sure they say they do Huawei "Supercharge". They are a little hard to find but they are out there. Make sure the USB cable is rated for 5a(amps)

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Huawei uses a completely different setup from QC 3 from charger to cable . How does it charge with the supplied charger and cable that you received with your phone? If you buy extra chargers for home or car make sure they say they do Huawei "Supercharge". They are a little hard to find but they are out there. Make sure the USB cable is rated for 5a(amps)
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I haven't even used the included charger and cable, but plugged in at the house I do see 2 amp charge rates which is great.
The downside is that in the car with android auto I can't really plug it into anything other than the car's USB and that give me a really slow trickle charge. This is where a bulk of my charging occurs since I drive for work so much. Basically I have never charged my other phones outside of the car, I just use android auto all the time and the batteries are always topped off. So not being able to charge from car or laptop is not a deal breaker at all, but it certainly means I need to start carry a charging cube around everywhere.
Just seems odd for such an expensive flagship phone to not charge correctly via USB like every other phone I have ever had.

Try the supplied charger and cable just to make sure you do not have a defective phone. When you plug in the cable to charge watch your screen. It should show your battery percentage and a short lighting bolt. Then in just a second it should change to a long lighting bolt and say super charging. If it does that you know your phone is charging correctly. Take your Huawei supplied cable and use it on your laptop and car and see if that doesn't increase your chances speeds.

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Try the supplied charger and cable just to make sure you do not have a defective phone. When you plug in the cable to charge watch your screen. It should show your battery percentage and a short lighting bolt. Then in just a second it should change to a long lighting bolt and say super charging. If it does that you know your phone is charging correctly. Take your Huawei supplied cable and use it on your laptop and car and see if that doesn't increase your chances speeds.
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I gave the original cable a shot and it still basically charges at 200-250ma from my laptop. Very odd indeed. Not even seeing the normal 500ma that you would get on a regular USB port. (Tried both standard and high charge rate USB ports on my lenovo)
Anyone else seeing this behavior?