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[For actual owners] The Desire speaker output volume?

To the actual (lucky) owners of the Desire :
-How's the main speaker volume?
Is it low as Nexus One or much louder?
I love smartphones but I can't understand why the mot basic things like ringtones volume could be low so I hope the Desire is a true upgrade in this domain compared to N1

Please I have to know to see if I wait 3 more weeks for Desire(Lebanon) or get now the N1

Never heard the volume on the N1 or indeed what you would consider loud - seems ok to me on the Desire.

Mine is more than loud enough....

Mine is pretty loud. However when I listen to music the high frequencies seem too loud. I didn't look for an equalizer yet, but it,s probably there somewere.

Mine is also loud enough, but I wouldn't call the sound quality superb. It's OK.

Karolis said:
Mine is also loud enough, but I wouldn't call the sound quality superb. It's OK.
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Seems like the reaction I had about the HD2 the first time. It is loud, but starting from about 50% max volume and up it starts to sound 'bad'? I was expecting some good things from that 'enchanted dolby around' stuff.. and in the TechRader review they said it sounds quite nice.

Speaker/headphone volume VERY low.....

I sold my HD2 on Thursday and let me say first off that I have no regrets whatsoever: I absolutely love this phone. Before I sold the HD2 I played some music tracks on both devices through the loudspeaker and headphones jack and noticed a HUGE differential in volume.....I thought the HD2 speaker was pretty tinny but it was at least audible; the Desire speaker volume is incredibly underpowered...being practically inaudible in a moderately noisy environment. This problem seems to extend even as far as the headphones socket since some of the songs I was unable to play at full volume on the HD2 for fear of bursting my eardrums are simply not loud enough for me on the Desire.
Am I the only person to think the volume levels are too low? Is there perhaps a way to increase the pre amp levels. It's as quiet as the first generation iPhone which was REALLY BAD.
Any thoughts from anyone here?

Hi there - I've been searching online to see if anyone else has been having this problem and came across your post.
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example.
I was looking forward to using it - and Spotify, in partcular - as a replacement for my aging iPod. But there's just no way.
I can't believe this is common to every phone, as surely there would be more people complaining about it. Are there different firmware versions knocking about? It's got me pretty frustrated.

Ok this is not nice, speaker volume is very important to me. This is the first time I see somebody be this negative about it though...
Damn..
Further, you coming from the HD2, any more thoughts you want to share about the switch?
How is the 4.3 inch to 3.7 inch 'jump'?
Kind regards

Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.

Don't have the device yet but in a video review the guy said the speaker was pretty loud, so it's probably only a software problem
chipshop said:
Had my Desire for a week now, and I love it. But the volume via headphones is WAY too low. Stupidly too low. I can't hear it on the tube at all, for example..
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Juste buy in-ear headphones ! your ear will thanks you, pushing the volume to 100db because the tube is masking noise : not a good idea believe me.

I too, coming from an iPhone, find the headphone volume painfully low.
I use an under speaker pillow to listen to podcasts without disturbing the wife, and on the iPhone she'd sometimes complain that she could hear it. Now with the Desire I find that sometimes I can't hear it and that's at full volume.

I know this is probably obvious but I take it you have gone through. Audio settings
And maxed the volume? And checked any volume controls on headphones? If both set to max
And still not loud then the handset is faulty so get it replaced
Now!!
Mine set to max would be at ear bleeding levels!!

The speaker quality isn't great, but considering I don't use them that much it is good enough for me.
Am a little surprised with the headphone issues, considering that I have my volume set just under halfway and it is more than loud enough for me.
I am using my Sennheiser earphones, but the volume is fine with the supplied HTC ones too.

what kind of bit-rates are you using for music? ... 128? or more, ... as the quality effects the loudness somehow I believe.
try experimenting with different bit rates and see how that goes

leoni1980 said:
Screen size is not a problem for me, colours are beautiful on the Desire and the screen seems note responsive. I tried using the HD2 for a day after getting the Desire and hated it bycomparison! Only massive annoyance though is that it is nowhere near as loud.
I suspect that people are still in their honeymoon period with the phone and that complaints will start to surface about the speaker volume in time. As far as I can recall all my other Android devices were a lot louder than this.
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I think this might be due to new UE regulations about maximum volume in mobile devices, though im not 100% sure if its already in the system.
However Im pretty sure that in couple days/weeks there will be some hacks/apps/ to change that

So have I got a faulty phone?
Or are people just overly forgiving??
Everything is set to max. I've also noticed that the Mic quality in videos is also shockingly poor in terms of volume. I wonder if all of these functions are shared by the same chipset.

leoni, I'm having just the same problem. I think it must be a problem with some of these phones. I can't believe that people are just being overly forgiving.
I'm not looking to push the volume up too high, but if I can't hear it when there's a little background noise going on, then that's a serious design flaw.
I'd like to do a comparison with another Desire at some point, hopefully I'll bump into someone using one soon...

Just to answer some of the above questions/suggestions:-
I'm using MP3s in 256k bit rate format. All volume controls are set to max and there is no volume control on the headphones I am using.

I'm sending mine back. I'm due an upgrade on Monday anyway so I'll test one in the shop and see if It's the same. The headphone volume is the main issue for me; its just too low.

I also think that the volume is way too low. Just out of curiosity, could this be a Rom issue? I'm using the stock TMO Rom. To the people who think it's loud enough, which Rom are you on?

My biggest problem is with the volume through the headphones....speaker volume I can live with, though it is crap and tinny

I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.

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I think this must be an issue on your phone or you expect it to be crazy loud. I swapped out my ipod for this today on a good set of headphones (AKG KE518LE's) and the volume levels seem identical. As for the speaker, i find mine is a tad on the loud side to be honest. I find myself having to knock it dont a few notches on the volume.
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are you on TMO ROM?

Loud speaker isn't audible above the sound of my shower, which is a real shame as coming from a n95 8gb the loud speaker was great. Oh well. I'm a forgiving type!

I have found music volume to be pretty low but I'm fairly convinced it is a software/Rom issue because the volume in some applications is loud! Doesn't made much sense. Running T-mob here.

Record Video in Silence - Loud High Pitch Whine?

I just noticed when I record a video there is a very loud high pitch whine that is constant. Can anyone test this or confirm if this is a known issue or perhaps I have a defect? I truly hope I don't have to exchange this cause the screen I got is close to perfect.
I'm all stock still on 4.0.1 actually, I just didn't want to upgrade just yet. Perhaps the update fixes this high pitch whine? Thanks for any feedback.

RogerPodacter said:
I just noticed when I record a video there is a very loud high pitch whine that is constant. Can anyone test this or confirm if this is a known issue or perhaps I have a defect? I truly hope I don't have to exchange this cause the screen I got is close to perfect.
I'm all stock still on 4.0.1 actually, I just didn't want to upgrade just yet. Perhaps the update fixes this high pitch whine? Thanks for any feedback.
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You only get the noise when recording in silence, correct?
If so, the phone is probably increasing the gain of the microphone because it is picking up very little sound...

Never mind I'm an idiot. Even though my TV was muted somehow this mic must have high gain or picked up some kind of interference. Cause when I turn off the TV the video records perfectly normal.

NPuter said:
You only get the noise when recording in silence, correct?
If so, the phone is probably increasing the gain of the microphone because it is picking up very little sound...
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Yes thanks, I turned off my TV and all is normal. Must have been some weird interference? Guess thus thread is pointless now my bad peoples. I just had a scare there!

Bottom speaker quieter than top speaker?

I have noticed that the bottom speaker on my Z5 premium is quieter than the top one. I have tried using landscape, the left/top speaker is always louder.
When starting speaker phone, which produces audio out of the bottom speaker, it is louder briefly before returning to a lower volume. I also notice this when starting music after the phone has been quiet for a while. The bottom speaker starts of loud then it sounds as though it fades to a lower level.
A method to reproduce the bug: Enter the service menu by entering *#*#7378423#*#* into the dialer, selecting "Service tests" and then the "Stereo speaker Right" test. You may find that it begins louder then fades quieter soon after the test begins. If not, play the "Earphone" test and then repeat the Stereo speaker Right test, and you should find that it begins louder than before, before fading quieter as soon as the test begins playing
Anyone else?
EDIT: a more foolproof method, start playing music in Google Play Music or your music player of choice, go into the above service menu and play the earphone test. As soon as the earphone test finishes and your music resumes, it'll be clearly louder in both speakers before the bottom/right speaker fades quieter again.
Hopefully sony fix this quickly!

Same here, although voices seem to be central?
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corallus said:
Same here, although voices seem to be central?
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Mine is fine this morning! Coming out of both speakers as it should! Weird. Literally just charged it overnight and tried again this morning after my Timely Alarm went off

Now that's weird.
Same
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We had a post about this when the Z5 came out. I and a few others had the same problem and it rectified itself over night.
Mine has been fine for ages, I've just flashed new generic software for the UK and the problem is back again. I'm hoping it will sort itself out like it did last time. Its definitely software and not hardware related

Under audio settings enable Dynamic Normalizer ,that fixed the issue for me.

LadFromWales85 said:
I have noticed that the bottom speaker on my Z5 premium is quieter than the top one. I have tried using landscape, the left/top speaker is always louder.
When starting speaker phone, which produces audio out of the bottom speaker, it is louder briefly before returning to a lower volume. I also notice this when starting music after the phone has been quiet for a while. The bottom speaker starts of loud then it sounds as though it fades to a lower level.
A method to reproduce the bug: Enter the service menu by entering *#*#7378423#*#* into the dialer, selecting "Service tests" and then the "Stereo speaker Right" test. You may find that it begins louder then fades quieter soon after the test begins. If not, play the "Earphone" test and then repeat the Stereo speaker Right test, and you should find that it begins louder than before, before fading quieter as soon as the test begins playing
Anyone else?
EDIT: a more foolproof method, start playing music in Google Play Music or your music player of choice, go into the above service menu and play the earphone test. As soon as the earphone test finishes and your music resumes, it'll be clearly louder in both speakers before the bottom/right speaker fades quieter again.
Hopefully sony fix this quickly!
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Sure does, mine is so low I thought the bottom wasn't on. I'm very disappointed with battery, stereo speakers, and heating!

samsmalls said:
Sure does, mine is so low I thought the bottom wasn't on. I'm very disappointed with battery, stereo speakers, and heating!
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After reading your comment and a few others I am very concerned now about my Z5P, It is being delivered tomorrow and I would have thought that with such a big battery running in 1080p most of the time the battery life should be great. Also heat issues sound concerning aswell as the speaker issue
All phones for me are hopeless this year

RCJ89 said:
After reading your comment and a few others I am very concerned now about my Z5P, It is being delivered tomorrow and I would have thought that with such a big battery running in 1080p most of the time the battery life should be great. Also heat issues sound concerning aswell as the speaker issue
All phones for me are hopeless this year
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Don't worry, your Z5P will kick ass...the heat issues are probably least of a concern with this phone compared to other 810 phones...and quite honestly, you should WANT the phone to run in 1080p outside of viewing pictures and videos... There is absolutely nothing to be gained by having 4k on all the time...but if that is something you want, it can easily be achieved by changing the DPI...no root or bootloader unlock is required... Being a Nexus 6P owner, I can honestly say the Sony is still better even running 5.1.1

RCJ89 said:
After reading your comment and a few others I am very concerned now about my Z5P, It is being delivered tomorrow and I would have thought that with such a big battery running in 1080p most of the time the battery life should be great. Also heat issues sound concerning aswell as the speaker issue
All phones for me are hopeless this year
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Yea the battery is a little better today, but still not ideal for its size. On a bright note although it's a heat sink the performance is OUTSTANDING!!! no matter how hot it gets, I haven't noticed any decrease in performance. I also haven't noticed the "over heat" process running in the background yet. This was a common site on my z ultra!

gparmar76 said:
Don't worry, your Z5P will kick ass...the heat issues are probably least of a concern with this phone compared to other 810 phones...and quite honestly, you should WANT the phone to run in 1080p outside of viewing pictures and videos... There is absolutely nothing to be gained by having 4k on all the time...but if that is something you want, it can easily be achieved by changing the DPI...no root or bootloader unlock is required... Being a Nexus 6P owner, I can honestly say the Sony is still better even running 5.1.1
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Thanks I am not concerned about 4K infact thats not even the reason why I am getting this, I wanted a bigger screen than the z5 and bigger battery. I am glad its 1080p most of the time. that is a good thing infact I wish it was just 1080p.
My concerns are the battery life as if its running 1080p the battery life should be great ith a 3430 mah cell
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Yea the battery is a little better today, but still not ideal for its size. On a bright note although it's a heat sink the performance is OUTSTANDING!!! no matter how hot it gets, I haven't noticed any decrease in performance. I also haven't noticed the "over heat" process running in the background yet. This was a common site on my z ultra!
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See that still not ideal for its size is concerning tbh.

So I don't have a speaker issue as such but the speakers on this phone are not very loud and tbh, I am tired of this whole stereo speaker stuff I don't buy into it, before anyone mentions that the phone is water proof/resistant. I don't buy it on HTCs or the Nexus 6P either. Imo the bottom mounted single speaker on my GS6 and IP6S sound better, fuller & louder.

miki8856 said:
Under audio settings enable Dynamic Normalizer ,that fixed the issue for me.
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I know that this is an old thread but that's what the search feature is for.
This fixed my louder top speaker issue and has had the added bonus of increasing the volume of YouTube too. Thank you.

SOLVED!!
I have solved it
First step, empty the media volume bar, then restart your phone
Second step, turn your phone on, and play music with no volume, then increase it gently.
Voila!! Your bottom speaker now has equal volume with top speaker

Problem persisting even after a phone replacement
LadFromWales85 said:
I have noticed that the bottom speaker on my Z5 premium is quieter than the top one. I have tried using landscape, the left/top speaker is always louder.
When starting speaker phone, which produces audio out of the bottom speaker, it is louder briefly before returning to a lower volume. I also notice this when starting music after the phone has been quiet for a while. The bottom speaker starts of loud then it sounds as though it fades to a lower level.
A method to reproduce the bug: Enter the service menu by entering *#*#7378423#*#* into the dialer, selecting "Service tests" and then the "Stereo speaker Right" test. You may find that it begins louder then fades quieter soon after the test begins. If not, play the "Earphone" test and then repeat the Stereo speaker Right test, and you should find that it begins louder than before, before fading quieter as soon as the test begins playing
Anyone else?
EDIT: a more foolproof method, start playing music in Google Play Music or your music player of choice, go into the above service menu and play the earphone test. As soon as the earphone test finishes and your music resumes, it'll be clearly louder in both speakers before the bottom/right speaker fades quieter again.
Hopefully, sony fix this quickly!
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Does your speaker work fine now? I had mine stopped working and got a replacement from the company. But after 40 days the problem is back again. There is a 7db difference in the loudness of both the speakers. My original phone used to do the same. Loud for a moment but then quite at the end. But gradually the bottom speaker lost all of its sounds and I wasn't able to use the loudspeaker feature while calling and the company swapped it for me, probably with a refurbished model. Respond to me and help me out or I'll be damned after the warranty period expires.

miki8856 said:
Under audio settings enable Dynamic Normalizer ,that fixed the issue for me.
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this fix my prb too. thanks alot

Ear speaker rattle/static noise

Noticed this happening the other day. I can still hear fine to some degree, but it sounds like the speaker has rattling or static sound. Wondering if anyone else has had this issue? I'm running the latest project nexus build, though I don't think its related. Speaker still functions as it should, just with all the feedback noise. Any help is much appreciated, hoping there could be a different solution than replacing the speaker.

My earpiece speaker rattles and/or buzzes at higher volumes - not excessively high volumes either, but levels you might need in a noisy environment. I have to turn it down a bit to stop it. If it was any worse, I'd request a replacement. The earpiece speaker is not terribly high quality compared to most of my previous phones.

grabber5.0 said:
My earpiece speaker rattles and/or buzzes at higher volumes - not excessively high volumes either, but levels you might need in a noisy environment. I have to turn it down a bit to stop it. If it was any worse, I'd request a replacement. The earpiece speaker is not terribly high quality compared to most of my previous phones.
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Sadly when I turn my volume down I still get the same amount of feedback, just at a lower volume.

I have only noticed it since I received the March 2016 Security Update.
Edit: I should probably say I have noticed it more since I received the March 2016 Security Update.

I have a Nexus 5X H790 bought in the US, and here in Brazil this model has not yet been arrive. With less than a month has problem in the ear speaker. The voice was distorted, noisy. I lost the warranty, but changed by a Nexus 5 (2013) speaker. Yes, they are compatible, and the replacement is very easy.