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Hi all,
My battery life on the One X has been great before the 2.17 update. Better than the average being reported on this forum.
After 2.17 it plummeted to 14 hours or so with barely 2 hours of screen time.
Nothing was changed after the update on my end. Same apps, etc. All on stock.
What are my options? Will a hard reset solve it?
Thanks.
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The factory reset did the trick. Battery is back functioning properly and I did get extra juice out of the 2.17 update.
If you do find a weird drop in battery life and the ONLY change is that you updated the firmware, a hard reset may solve it like it did for me.
junialum said:
Hi all,
My battery life on the One X has been great before the 2.17 update. Better than the average being reported on this forum.
After 2.17 it plummeted to 14 hours or so with barely 2 hours of screen time.
Nothing was changed after the update on my end. Same apps, etc. All on stock.
What are my options? Will a hard reset solve it?
Thanks.
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You should go thru a couple of charging cycles before complaining about battery time.. everytime you flash a new rom or update the phone the battery has to calibrate ( as far as i know ), and that takes about 2 - 4 recharge cycles..
in case you already done that, then check you sync settings, brightness if its too high, or low.. Maybe you are used to be on wifi instead of 3g ?
It has gone through over 10 full charge cycles.
Sync is off. Brightness minimum.
Wifi and 3G usage patterns are similar.
Just noticed that Phone Idle is consuming a lot more.
Maybe it's the new radio which is affecting your signal, try flashing an older radio. My battery life is better on the new firmware.
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i first of all found the battery life had dropped, i ended up resetting the phone and it got much better, i think some old app was getting lodged in the memory and preventing deep sleep.
i ran it for about 2 weeks before i decided to wipe.
@nikzDHD
I suspect it could be that. My provider does not provide that strong a connectivity. But that is something I can't change for the next year or so.
@audiobookman
I decided to wipe it today. Also waited about 2-3 weeks before deciding enough is enough.
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I did a HTC Battery test and found that my battery was in good condition and performed way better than their baseline. So, I went on to wipe the phone clean and started from scratch.
It was not a painful process actually. Most of my stuff are on the cloud (Google/Dropbox/Skydrive) and the only things I had to back up was the list of apps I had and some settings from apps like Tasker and Minimalist Text. I got everything back up and running within an hour + (reinstalling 60+ apps and getting them setup the way they were takes time).
So far, battery seems a lot better and back to the former period but, it is too early to tell. I'll give it a week of use and a fair amount of full charge cycles before commenting.
Will update this thread then.
If anyone has other ideas please sound out. Thanks a lot!
junialum said:
@nikzDHD
I suspect it could be that. My provider does not provide that strong a connectivity. But that is something I can't change for the next year or so.
@audiobookman
I decided to wipe it today. Also waited about 2-3 weeks before deciding enough is enough.
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I did a HTC Battery test and found that my battery was in good condition and performed way better than their baseline. So, I went on to wipe the phone clean and started from scratch.
It was not a painful process actually. Most of my stuff are on the cloud (Google/Dropbox/Skydrive) and the only things I had to back up was the list of apps I had and some settings from apps like Tasker and Minimalist Text. I got everything back up and running within an hour + (reinstalling 60+ apps and getting them setup the way they were takes time).
So far, battery seems a lot better and back to the former period but, it is too early to tell. I'll give it a week of use and a fair amount of full charge cycles before commenting.
Will update this thread then.
If anyone has other ideas please sound out. Thanks a lot!
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I do a factory reset after every OTA because of the reasons you mention of this thread. After it battery life seems to get better or at least not worse as on previous firmware version. I hate doing that but it seems the only way
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The factory reset did the trick. Battery is back functioning properly and I did get extra juice out of the 2.17 update.
If you do find a weird drop in battery life and the ONLY change is that you updated the firmware, a hard reset may solve it like it did for me.
Thanks all.
I updated my phone (completely stock) to MM as soon as it came out. The first thing I noticed was my battery life became terrible. I gave it a few days, still sucked. I did multiple hard resets and cleared system cache, still sucked. Then a couple weeks later another massive update. I figured it was a fix for all of the initial problems. Not only did it not fix it, it made it WORSE! More hard resets, still the same crappy battery life. MM has been the worst update I've experienced on Android so far, and that is saying a lot. Is it only me or does every update seem to get worse and worse. Dare I say its time to look into a new operating system? This is ridiculous....
Now, if I leave bluetooth on, it becomes the number 1 battery drain and will kill my battery in a few hours even if it isn't connected to anything (this NEVER happened in any previous update). I made the mistake of buying another battery thinking it would help. Nope, battery life still sucks.
If I have bluetooth on and I connect to my car, it works fine but if I turn my car off and go into my office, the bluetooth symbol still shows I am connected even though I am not.
I checked the Verizon community forum and many others are reporting the same thing. So far VZW has blown everyone off and said "have you tried our battery saving tips".....What a bunch of BS!
Who else is having these problems and what can we possibly do about it?
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I updated my phone (completely stock) to MM as soon as it came out. The first thing I noticed was my battery life became terrible. I gave it a few days, still sucked. I did multiple hard resets and cleared system cache, still sucked. Then a couple weeks later another massive update. I figured it was a fix for all of the initial problems. Not only did it not fix it, it made it WORSE! More hard resets, still the same crappy battery life. MM has been the worst update I've experienced on Android so far, and that is saying a lot. Is it only me or does every update seem to get worse and worse. Dare I say its time to look into a new operating system? This is ridiculous....
Now, if I leave bluetooth on, it becomes the number 1 battery drain and will kill my battery in a few hours even if it isn't connected to anything (this NEVER happened in any previous update). I made the mistake of buying another battery thinking it would help. Nope, battery life still sucks.
If I have bluetooth on and I connect to my car, it works fine but if I turn my car off and go into my office, the bluetooth symbol still shows I am connected even though I am not.
I checked the Verizon community forum and many others are reporting the same thing. So far VZW has blown everyone off and said "have you tried our battery saving tips".....What a bunch of BS!
Who else is having these problems and what can we possibly do about it?
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I don't know. Most people are reporting good battery life with Marshmallow. I'm on Jasmine 6.0 which is essentially a stock ROM, little debloating, and my battery life is great. For what it's worth, my battery is relatively new. I also use the app "Greenify."
douger1957 said:
I don't know. Most people are reporting good battery life with Marshmallow. I'm on Jasmine 6.0 which is essentially a stock ROM, little debloating, and my battery life is great. For what it's worth, my battery is relatively new. I also use the app "Greenify."
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I also have a brand new battery and it didn't matter, still sucks.
I'm also using greenify and it isn't helping at all. I am curious how many that are reporting good battery life are on a fully stock Note 4.
Also, what about your bluetooth? If you leave it on does it become the number one drain on your battery? It happens on both my wifes phone and mine (both stock). Several others on the VZW forums are reporting the same thing as our phones.
Annoyed as hell to say the least.
I got my HTC 10 about 7 month ago and I was really happy with it until three or four days ago that I have no idea why my phone started to drain drastically even when I'm not using it at all.
I'm not a heavy user, I have never even installed a game.
I repeat, I was completely satisfied with the battery.
Most of days I used it for 2 days and still having 10 % remaining.
Until 3 or 4 days ago I noticed that my phone is draining way too much rapidly.
I did everything that I could think of but nothing got better.
Yesterday I reset factory the phone, and just installed less than 10 essential apps (I used to have more than 50 apps on my phone before this) and I have restricted their access to network.
Last night I fully charged it and shut everything off. No Wi-Fi, no data, no nothing. Even I turned on the power saving mode. When I got up in the morning the battery percentage was 28% while my phone used to use less than 5% during nights.
I checked battery usage details and the results were shocking:
Android OS 55%
Android system 24%
Phone idle 11%
Only 1 app had used the battery and it was:
Telegram 1%
What should I do?
This change hasn't been gradually so I'd say "okay my phone is used out and old! "
This change "just" happened. I have no idea why.
Please someone give me some advice.
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I got my HTC 10 about 7 month ago and I was really happy with it until three or four days ago that I have no idea why my phone started to drain drastically even when I'm not using it at all.
I'm not a heavy user, I have never even installed a game.
I repeat, I was completely satisfied with the battery.
Most of days I used it for 2 days and still having 10 % remaining.
Until 3 or 4 days ago I noticed that my phone is draining way too much rapidly.
I did everything that I could think of but nothing got better.
Yesterday I reset factory the phone, and just installed less than 10 essential apps (I used to have more than 50 apps on my phone before this) and I have restricted their access to network.
Last night I fully charged it and shut everything off. No Wi-Fi, no data, no nothing. Even I turned on the power saving mode. When I got up in the morning the battery percentage was 28% while my phone used to use less than 5% during nights.
I checked battery usage details and the results were shocking:
Android OS 55%
Android system 24%
Phone idle 11%
Only 1 app had used the battery and it was:
Telegram 1%
What should I do?
This change hasn't been gradually so I'd say "okay my phone is used out and old! "
This change "just" happened. I have no idea why.
Please someone give me some advice.
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That doesn't sound right at all. I had a similar experience recently and sent it for repair, it's possible it's hardware related. Is quick charge working ?
Mine was apparently due to a corrupted OS which is odd as I did 2 factory resets and 3 ruu's prior to sending it back. It's fine now but I don't understand why the ruu didn't fix the corrupt OS.
I assumed mine was hardware related and possibly due to faulty usb port as quick charge didn't work consistently, but apparently not. Sorry to not be much help but you could try an ruu which would be more thorough than a reset ( it's quite straightforward if you find the right one for your device )
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That doesn't sound right at all. I had a similar experience recently and sent it for repair, it's possible it's hardware related. Is quick charge working ?
Mine was apparently due to a corrupted OS which is odd as I did 2 factory resets and 3 ruu's prior to sending it back. It's fine now but I don't understand why the ruu didn't fix the corrupt OS.
I assumed mine was hardware related and possibly due to faulty usb port as quick charge didn't work consistently, but apparently not. Sorry to not be much help but you could try an ruu which would be more thorough than a reset ( it's quite straightforward if you find the right one for your device )
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Thank you for your reply.
The strangest of all is that everything JUST happened !
I mean no gradual change !
I love HTC but I'm deeply disappointed right now.
Have you tried factory reset ? If your phone is in warranty visit a nearby service center and if your phone is rooted install BBS and post dumpfile.
rajkatiyar07 said:
Have you tried factory reset ? If your phone is in warranty visit a nearby service center and if your phone is rooted install BBS and post dumpfile.
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In his OP he says he did a factory reset.
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I would download accubattery app and see where your battery is at. I bought my device when it came out and I'm down to 81% unfortunately now.
Are you rooted, S-OFF or anything like that?
I would run a full wipe RUU
andybones said:
In his OP he says he did a factory reset.
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I would download accubattery app and see where your battery is at. I bought my device when it came out and I'm down to 81% unfortunately now.
Are you rooted, S-OFF or anything like that?
I would run a full wipe RUU
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Gsam would most likely be the better option to see what exactly is the thing causing the battery drain
bilibox said:
Gsam would most likely be the better option to see what exactly is the thing causing the battery drain
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Better?
Who's to say.
No reason both can't be used.
OP does say "I checked battery usage details and the results were shocking:
Android OS 55%
Android system 24%
Phone idle 11%
Only 1 app had used the battery and it was:
Telegram 1%"
Which is why I suggest to see the battery health.
I know, our device has really great battery life and I don't have anything to complain about that, but a friend of mine just got himself a new phone and his values make me a bit jealous and most of all: surprised and stunned.
He got himself a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (SD 625 variant, MKT variant really sucks), it has the same processor, same display and not even 700 mAh more (4100 mAh) and he got with some "dev rom" (made by Xiaomi, seems to just be the beta of that ugly MIUI 9, based on Andorid 7.0) 6h of SOT, doze seems to haven't really kicked in in that time. in their forum in the SOT thread I see people getting normally about 8-10 with up to over 12 h of SOT, most of them on stock ROM without any additions. And I'm quite irritated about that huge of a difference with not that much more battery. And he seems quite convinced that it's not on the cost of performance, you should notice that quickly on such a heavily skinned ROM.
Now my question is: how in hell is that even possible? I mean our devices seem quite comparablewith just a slight bump in battery but near-stock AOSP Android against pretty much an iOS clone. Does anyone have any idea what could cause that big of a difference? And if it's software based could that be done on our device? Because my experience and from different posts our device lasts about 5-6 h normally.
I mean I'm already lucky about my 2 days of usage with up to about 2.5 days on some weekends where I have a lot of stuff to do. But I wouldn't mind a bit of extra. But my biggest problem with that is as simple as: how? I could really use some explaination right now...
I don't have issues with device.. stock 7.1.1 with dec.patch, unlocked bootloader, with latest magisk. Also installed greenify.
Then you are one of very rare cases. My experience is about half of that.
And I also meant on stock ROM, without any modifications. So I don't know which apps you greenified, but that was not the point. I use Greenify too but more for apps that aren't supposed to run constantly in background when I only use it very seldomly.
The norm for this phone is 8+ hours SOT. Sometimes I get 10 and a few have had up to 12. Unless you're gaming 8 should be easy. 5 hours means something is wrong with your phone hardware, you have a rogue battery eating app or you're gaming. I rarely charge my phone over the weekend even when I use it a lot.
Well, neither of that is the case and I rarely see people claiming more than 6h of SOT
So the answer to your question is, it's the wrong question. The question should be, why does my battery not last very long and what apps or usage causes me to have such poor battery life? Compared to the Redmi Note 4 the Z Play is exactly where it should be.
Here's a link to the SOT thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/review/screen-time-t3643959
gsmarena battery life test 100h endurance rating: https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3?idPhone=8310#show
Here's an app to help diagnose battery condition (Accubattery): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=en
also betterbatterystats is really helpful.
I sincerely hope you get it sorted out!
Well, gsam isn't detecting any app that's off even with root so I don't think there is any. I installed that AccuBattery app, let's see what it has to say
Removed because of ****ty q&a system...
Oh, and another thing I noticed: I get very randomly reboots, and every time the battery percentage drops massively. Just had a 30% drop. And after the reboot the battery percentage seems like frozen. Now I rebooted and plugged in the cable and got 44% again... No fast charging. Do that detection seems very off
Motorola forum isn't helpful at all. Clearing cache and dalvik didn't change anything and running around for a week in secure mode (that's how random they mostly are) or even doing a factory reset without restoring apps is out of question for obvious reasons.
That's pretty weird. Did you try a factory reset and after restore your apps? There's not a lot you can do if you're not rooted, but you shouldn't need to do much anyway on stock rom.
Only other option is full RSD lite OS restore as a last resort.
I am rooted for long, that's why I use Greenify. I know it also works without but then it's a joke. As RSD lite is, it just refuses for everyone to detect anything on Windows 10.
Factory reset is out of question for the moment, it takes way too long to do it properly (with titanium and NANDroid backup first) and I won't have that much time probably for the whole of this month. Otherwise I would most likely already have went off to the next best custom ROM since Motorola just can't get their **** together and still work on 8.0 in test for 2.5 month with searching testers for another one.
I think the next thing I'll do is to try the good old battery calibration, just have to find the file storing the statistics. I know many say that won't work but that's rubbish, it worked for me already a few times
Update: no, no change. Don't know if that funky battery percentage bug on random reboots still happen since I haven't had any again yet, but they come too random and unpredictable.
And that AccuBattery just proves to be worthless. It tries to estimate the rest capacity, but then it even fails to detect original capacity by 500 mAh. The battery sucker stats are also unrealistic. It puts chrome first with 10%, while GSam with root puts it 5th at 4.6% after kernel, Spotify, Android system and fight services. Android itself even puts it 9th with screen, phone idle, cell standby, Android OS and Bluetooth in-between.
So let's see what happens first. Motorola releasing 8.0, which I will flash through the .xml.zip, this time using flashfile.xml which should force a factory reset... Or me finding the time to switch to a custom ROM
Edit: so I got another one, bit this time no crazy battery drop. But the other times I killed of the soft reboot sequence because Magisk can have some problems with that. This time I didn't
Yesterday I was finally able to do the factory reset since those darn random reboots became too annoying and Moto's support is had just the most ridiculous ideas... In the worst way.
Either way, now OTA looks better, let's see how it will turn out in the next days
Ever since upgrading to Android P (OTA) 3 days ago I've noticed the battery life is really poor. On Oreo I used to see only 1-2% drain overnight. Now I go to bed with full charge and wake up with only 60% left. The battery drains a lot faster when I'm using it as well.
I used to be able to get 6-7 hours SOT easily. Now I'm not even sure if I could squeeze 4 hours before the battery is flat.
Is anybody else seeing this? Or is this normal considering Android P just got installed and it needs time to "optimize stuff"? But then again, with Oreo I got awesome battery life from day 1.
Weird, I've gotten better battery life..
Better battery here
Interesting. I'll let it run a few more days and see if there's any improvement. Otherwise I'm going back to Oreo.
huiseh said:
Interesting. I'll let it run a few more days and see if there's any improvement. Otherwise I'm going back to Oreo.
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Give it some time, once adapative battery figures out your usage and adjusts accordingly, you should see better battery life
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Try to factory reset ur device this may help
Thanks guys. I'll wait a few more days. If it doesn't improve will try a factory reset
I'm getting better battery life with Pie
Pixel 1 XL could last a long time. Pixel 2 XL was worse and the worst with Android P unfortunately. I upgraded from Beta, decided to factory reset since there was a bug with Wear OS eating the battery. Got a little better. Got some more little better disabling adaptive battery. I think Doze is still in Android P.
Anyway, it's still not that good. But decent.
I am having the same issue.
when I reboot the phone, the battery seems ok.
But when I start using the phone and open several apps, the battery starts draining quickly.
I installed magisk root, should I do a factory reset and not installing magisk?
I went from a day and 17 hours to 16 hours. This is definiately a piss-poor "improvement to battery life."
Triscuit said:
Give it some time, once adapative battery figures out your usage and adjusts accordingly, you should see better battery life
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I'm not sure how much help adaptive battery is going to help. It's meant to limit background battery usage of infrequently used misbehaving apps. If that's not happening adaptive battery won't do much.
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My battery life has been terrible. Today I unplugged at 93%. I've been off the charger for 9 hours with 4 hours screen on time. I'm at 23%. With Oreo that kind of usage would have me at about 40%.
I'd rather not have the hassle of having to do a factory reset but I might not have much choice.
It hasn't got any better since I reported the issue.
I think I'm going to flash Oreo instead of trying a factory reset as I doubt it would solve the problem. Maybe someone else could try and let us know.
I'll report back after flashing Oreo. Very disappointed. I thought this was the first phone I didn't need to tinker with all these stuff on. I was really happy with it until this issue came up.
So a few days ago I flashed Oreo only to have it tell me it couldn't find any of my backups on Google Drive during the initial setup. Of course, the backups were done when I was on Pie.
So I had to upgrade to Pie then factory reset. This time it found my backups.
Yesterday I managed to get 5 hours SOT with about 40% battery left. Life is all good now
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So a few days ago I flashed Oreo only to have it tell me it couldn't find any of my backups on Google Drive during the initial setup. Of course, the backups were done when I was on Pie.
So I had to upgrade to Pie then factory reset. This time it found my backups.
Yesterday I managed to get 5 hours SOT with about 40% battery left. Life is all good now
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looks like i'm going to have to do the same. It doesnt make sense how some people are getting better battery and other worse. Are there some of us running apps not 9.0 compatible? might be worth uninstalling everything and adding them back day by day. it'll take a long time though!
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So a few days ago I flashed Oreo only to have it tell me it couldn't find any of my backups on Google Drive during the initial setup. Of course, the backups were done when I was on Pie.
So I had to upgrade to Pie then factory reset. This time it found my backups.
Yesterday I managed to get 5 hours SOT with about 40% battery left. Life is all good now
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I had a similar experience. Battery life was awful after Pie update. Factory reset and it's back to normal.
ej7631 said:
Weird, I've gotten better battery life..
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same here, slightly better
It appears I jumped the gun. The problem came back yesterday.
The phone loses about 4-5% battery per hour even on standby. I have no idea what's going on; I haven't installed any new apps and usage pattern hasn't changed either.
One very interesting fact I have discovered is that the issue appears to happen only when I'm on Wifi. When I'm mobile data, all is good. So the phone seems to be doing some funky stuff when it's on Wifi lol.
Oh well, I guess I will try to install BBS and see if I could find the culprit.
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looks like i'm going to have to do the same. It doesnt make sense how some people are getting better battery and other worse. Are there some of us running apps not 9.0 compatible? might be worth uninstalling everything and adding them back day by day. it'll take a long time though!
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That is entirely possible. I guess we have apps that have not been written/optimized for Pie? That would explain why some people are not seeing the issue and some unfortunate ones like us are.
I factory-resetted the phone, the issue is still there. I don't have any strange app. It seems that it's just the system that is consuming the battery.
That's very strange I've had the complete opposite, battery life has improved, if reset didn't fix it monitor your apps for unusual battery usage and limit the background activity of battery consuming apps