My question is regarding the system notification that says "system update downloaded" bassicly this update is a February 2016 security patches for Nexus 5X. Now my question is : Is it safe for me to install it ? ( I am rooted ( systemless), have twrp installed while on stock rom), if it isn't then how can I get rid of this notification?
yes, you can safely install it. no you won't be able to without further setup because of the way OTAs work (manual flashing via PC, FlashFire by Chainfire). you should be able to get rid of the notification by long-pressing it (which may disable other notifications as well).
Broken303 said:
yes, you can safely install it. no you won't be able to without further setup because of the way OTAs work (manual flashing via PC, FlashFire by Chainfire). you should be able to get rid of the notification by long-pressing it (which may disable other notifications as well).
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"yes, you can safely install it. no you won't be able to without further setup because of the way OTAs work"
I am sorry maybe I am having troubles with reading with understanding but can I safely install it or can't I?
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"yes, you can safely install it. no you won't be able to without further setup because of the way OTAs work"
I am sorry maybe I am having troubles with reading with understanding but can I safely install it or can't I?
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sorry, wasn't the best way of explaining it. you are safe to flash it, in the sense that it won't (or shouldn't) mess up your system. the system won't let you though, because in the process of the OTA update your system gets checked for modifications (root, adblockers, xposed...). if that process failes, so does the OTA update process and you get send back to your OS as it was and eventually the notification will pop back up again. therefore if you want to take the update, you have to flash it another way. one way is using your pc, there are even toolkits which automate most of the process and guide you through it (there are some very detailed and useful guides here on the forum, just do a quick search). another option is Chainfires FlashFire (which still has its quirks).
So, can you tell us how to install it via PC or provide the link that explains how to do it? Because the notification in not.center is a bit of annoying. Thanks!
Bottom line: you can not install an OTA if you have modified the system which means if you are rooted or have installed a custom recovery the OTA will fail. Even if you use a PC and use the ADB program, it will fail. There are many ways to update your system to the latest release using fastboot. Searching this forum has spelled out this process countless times. the search bar is your friend.
Problem that I now have is that it restarts to update, then it enters TWRP custom recovery. I flashed back the stock recovery to keep important OTA updates.
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exactly, thank you.
just as an example: searching the N5X forum for 'toolkit' leads me to several threads. this is one of those and further leads me here. oh, look, there is even a faq-section there and more specifically several possible solutions using this toolkit alone.
i don't intend to sound mean here, but with quick checks like that you can not only safe yourself some time.
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OK,
1st Hi all and thanks for not bashing my lack of knowledge. I have done many searches and am now more confused than before.
I am comming from a droid X, I did the z4 root on it to get wifi tether working, it was on 2.2.1 I believe. Well it went very good, but I never got a push for an update. Got the new GN on verizon and tried to restore it back to stock, didn't work, so instead of selling it I gave it to my mom. Also, did this on a friends and he did get the update push and lost the root and superuser access.
This story is just so you know I am a complete noob. Other than following someones set by set on using Z4 I have really not done anything and have some questions on my new phone.
1. why would I want to unlock the bootloader?
2. after reading about the wifi hotspot by svtp do I need to root?
3. If i root and/or unlock the bootloader will this stop the updates from google (main reason I bought the phone)?
4. I am not into overclocking or modding but I want to be able to have wifi if I ever need it. That is the only thing I want.
Basically I am looking to unlock the wifi and still get all the google updates, is this possible? As of right now I think buying the svtp app is my best bet, I just don't want an unexpected bill showing up.
ok, still not rooted or unlocked. cannot get svtp to work wifi
Follow this guide --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382163
re #1: you need to unlock the bootloader to do pretty much anything non standard with your phone.
Since unlocking the bootloader wipes all data on the phone it's a good idea to do it early. You can leave it otherwise stock while you think about it, you can even relock it if you need to return the phone for some reason.
Neither unlocking nor rooting the phone will stop you getting the OTAs, it's custom roms that will do that. However most OTAs will stop your root access because they reset the permissions on your su files.
hth
Clancy_s said:
Neither unlocking nor rooting the phone will stop you getting the OTAs, it's custom roms that will do that. However most OTAs will stop your root access because they reset the permissions on your su files.
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Just to add further to this... not only will custom ROMs stop you from getting OTA updates, having custom recovery (ClockworkMod) will prevent them from applying, even with the stock ROM. If using a stock ROM with custom recovery, you'll need to do the update manually. If you wait until you get the update notification, your phone should have downloaded the update to /cache. You can then use the custom recovery to apply the update. Alternatively, you can look on these forums for someone to post the URL to the OTA update zip file, download it, and flash it manually (this way you don't need to wait until your phone gets the update, you can download it and have it sooner).
In either case, you'll usually need to re-root, as stated. This is easier with a custom recovery, because you should just have to flash superuser immediately after flashing the update, before rebooting.
Until CM9 is stable, I'm running the stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery. I can download the OTA updates manually and flash them with ClockworkMod then flash superuser and I'm good to go. Custom recovery makes it nice and easy to retain root, as well as the ability to do nandroid backups, etc.
I want to know if I will forever lose the ability to install stock updates once I root my device. Can I "unroot" it in the future to seamlessly install stock updates? I don't want to mess with this too much as I want to rely on it for notes.
Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
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Yes. Use OTA rootkeeper to backup your root, then just temp unroot, install update, and restore root. Catch is, if you make any system changes that you can only make with root permissions, you'll likely not be able to get OTA updates. So just keep your system stock.
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If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
litetaker said:
If I were to modify the Snote app, I guess that may mess with the OTA update right? What if I backup the unmodified app and then replace the modified one with the unmodified one when I want to do an OTA update, I guess that should be fine?
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Depends on what you mean by modify. If you remove built in apks, yes, it'll keep you from getting OTA updates. If your modification requires root permissions, you run the chance of not getting OTA updates. Otherwise, you shouldn't have issues. In any case, restoring the stock app should allow you to get updates assuming nothing else is changed.
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Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
litetaker said:
Are there any "non-root" mods for the S-note? Or perhaps can I install another version of s-note as a "non-system" app? I want to keep rooting as the last resort. Specifically, I am looking into modifying the background of a template.
I know I can manually choose a different background for the note, but I noticed that the option to insert a voice memo and the button to insert any object vanish after I change the background. See attached pictures. Is there a fix for this?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9krlhjzy1mmjsp/2013-10-10 16.50.50.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/olsor30fl74077p/2013-10-10 16.49.19.png
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I don't have an answer for you unfortunately as my use of s note is very basic. I hope someone else can answer your questions.
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
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If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Absolutely false. I have been through probably 5 different OTA updates on my stock, rooted Note 8, and restored root with OTA rootkeeper every time. You're doing something wrong. I have never flashed anything to the device, and once you start messing with recoveries, etc, you are no longer stock and will not get OTA updates.
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Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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I just figured out how to fix my problems with SNote. So I can stick with stock still.
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What did you do?
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Once I used the ToolKit to root, without a custom recovery, any attempt to update showed as altered and unavailable for updates even though I didn't flash anything. Whatever ToolKit did, triggered the need for triangle away on my Note 8. Moot point now as I have no plans to root again but if I do, I will look into OTA rootkeeper.
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I don't know what the ToolKit does or what else you used it to do or what else you did with the system after rooting, but just plain root does not alter the system. Even apps like Adfree that modify the hosts file don't cause the system to be altered. If you remove system APKs though, that will do it. Like I said, I am still rooted despite all of the updates that I received. And I do not temp unroot prior to searching for updates, I temp unroot once the update is already downloaded.
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What did you do?
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My concern was how to obtain a custom background for the notes in S-note. I did it using the "change background" feature but I did so with the "memo" template. And the memo template doesn't have certain features like inserting images, audio memo etc. Given that I am new to Samsung and touchwiz I was unaware about this. I fixed this "problem" by putting my custom background on one of the other templates...
The only other thing I need root for is for removing Ads. BUT, thankfully there is the "Adblockplus" android app on their website that allows me to do this WITHOUT root! :highfive: On Android, nothing is impossible!
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I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
thx
athosk said:
I have rooted my device as well. What i want to ask is, is there a way to completely unroot and have the device check whether there are any updates?
I did use the unroot function but when I checked for any updates, it told me that the device had been modified..
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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Sounds like you modified the system in some way. Only way out is to unmodify it ie: ODIN or use kies to go back to stock. Might as well just use kies to install the latest update.
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When that happened to me, I couldn't even use Kies to recover so I used the ToolKit and triangle away to get a stock ROM on it.
I have the same problem. As far as I know I've only done a standard root, but OTA says the device has been modified and Kies says my firmware version doesn't support upgrading. Obviously something has modified something
As I'm in Australia we probably won't get a 4.2.2 upgrade anyway so at the moment I wouldn't have anything to upgrade to even if I could...
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CASz said:
If you root at all you lose OTA even if you do nothing and unroot. (I just went through this) Have you looked at any other apps that offer similar functionality to SNote or are you looking for multivendor? I know I we tried Papyrus and SPen voice but they were overkill for my needs.
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If you first use supersu option to unroot you can can get ota. Been there done that.
There is a post on this forum somewhere. Can't remember where, but it can be done if you follow the instruction in the post.
Do a search of the forums to find it. It's there!
Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
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Hello to anyone who decides to read this, and thank you for taking the time to haha.
I'm new here, and I'm relatively new to the whole rooting and modding scene, although I'm pretty confident in using Odin and various software involved in this, so, hopefully this won't be too complicated.
I have a question about my Note 10.1 2014. I have the WiFi model (P6000), which was bought in China since I was a student there for a year. Now I'm back in England. I flashed my ROM to a UK version so I could use Google Play services and Facebook integration, along with several other features and services which are blocked in China for various reasons. Now, my problem is, I have no real reason to have a rooted device other than for this. I also know I didn't need to root my device to flash the ROM, but I had some problems with my keyboard in China, but I have since solved them and have no use for the root. I want to take advantage of OTA updates since apparently my device should have one, but I can't because I'm rooted. Is it at all possible to unroot and lock the bootloader so I can update, without losing the ROM flash that is making my device run the UK firmware? If so, how would I go about doing this on my device? If it's not possible, is there are method in which I can update my firmware?
Sorry if I'm a little clueless about this stuff, and thanks in advance.
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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What rom version you're running right now? Do you have a full UK factory firmware 4.4 available?
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Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
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Sorry for the late response, I was travelling.
I'm not entirely sure haha. Here's my device info, does this explain my situation?
As for the second question, I'm not entirely sure what you mean? I looked for the firmware for flashing but couldn't find a Android 4.4 version, despite my device telling me I have an available update and the internet saying my device should be updated to 4.4?
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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OK, you have 4.3 and waiting for 4.4 OTA update. If you open your SuperSU app, then go to settings, scroll down to "Full unroot", select that and it should unroot. After done reboot your device and verify that the SuperSU is no longer in your app draw. I don't know if you modify anything else on your device like build.props or installed any rooted apps, if you do you need to remove them ALL, unfreeze any system apps using Titanium backup and revert build.props back to factory original, BEFORE YOU UNROOT. Once everything done you should be ok to take the OTA update. The OTA update will not erase your data so you should be fine there.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
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Thanks for the speedy reply. I tried to option within SuperSU, but it seems to have been uninstalling for about 15 minutes with no result. I realised that I froze the stock Samsung keyboard since it overtakes the Google Chinese Pinyin Input when using a keyboard, and I work primarily in Chinese. Could this be the reason why the uninstall seems to have failed or got stuck? Not sure what to do now, oops.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Yeah, I did read the instructions. It was just a moment of stupidity on my behalf, completely forgot I'd frozen the stock keyboard. I'll leave a little longer and then reboot.
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Did you read my instructions?? you must un-freeze all the system apps first before unroot otherwise the OTA may failed. Let it sits for another 10 min then reboot your phone and check to see root has been removed.
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Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
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Well, it seems to have gone a little weird. I have no root access anymore but SuperSU is still installed and my device status is still custom, so the OTA update won't run. I'm guessing I ought to reroot and properly clear out/unfreeze stuff, right? Sorry for being a pain haha...
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You need to remove the SuperSu app by go to playstore search for Supersu then you should see the uninstall option. The OTA failed probably because it detected that you have modified the system. You need to think what you did to your system and revert back before try again. I would just use towelroot app and reroot then unfreeze any frozen apps, then uninstall then try again. If you can't remembered what you did and the OTA stills failing, then the next step is use Odin and flash factory firmware either 4.3 or 4.4. Remember to read my instructions before and ask if in doubt before taken any action. After you re-root, make sure you use Titanium to run a full backup of all your userapps. if you don't want to be bother, then just use Odin to flash either 4.3 or 4.4 but you need to re setup and re-download all your apps.
The question is simple, I hope someone can answer!
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The question is simple, I hope someone can answer!
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No, as long as you don't modify the system partition, or firmware.
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No, as long as you don't modify the system partition, or firmware.
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So can I install Better Battery Stats and GSam Root Companion and such apps or will that affect OTA availability?
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So can I install Better Battery Stats and GSam Root Companion and such apps or will that affect OTA availability?
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Actually you don't need s-off to use these apps. You can just unlock the bootloader and root.
Unlocking the bootloader does not have any affect on the OTA system. But installing a custom recovery to root your device breaks the update process, unless you flash back the stock recovery before taking the OTA.
Also make sure to not to make any changes in the system apps after rooting, as it may cause the update to fail on system check.
I think you should try reading a bit more about the whole unlocking and rooting process before you proceed. There are a lot of useful threads in this forum that can help you.
If you have any other questions you can ask here.
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Actually you don't need s-off to use these apps. You can just unlock the bootloader and root.
Unlocking the bootloader does not have any affect on the OTA system. But installing a custom recovery to root your device breaks the update process, unless you flash back the stock recovery before taking the OTA.
Also make sure to not to make any changes in the system apps after rooting, as it may cause the update to fail on system check.
I think you should try reading a bit more about the whole unlocking and rooting process before you proceed. There are a lot of useful threads in this forum that can help you.
If you have any other questions you can ask here.
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Well my device has indeed unlocked bootloader already and also root access. However, installing the apps I mentioned makes them malfunction - I install as system app as it asks to but it seems to fail as it keeps asking me to repeat the process every time I try.
I am not a beginner to rooting phones although I am a beginner in what concerns the HTC S OFF procedure.
I accidentally deleted two stock apps upon a factory reset after rooting (flashlight and calculator), but I already found the apk and reinstalled them.
P.S. - AdAway also failed to function but from what I have read around it requires S-OFF to work properly.
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Well my device has indeed unlocked bootloader already and also root access. However, installing the apps I mentioned makes them malfunction - I install as system app as it asks to but it seems to fail as it keeps asking me to repeat the process every time I try.
I am not a beginner to rooting phones although I am a beginner in what concerns the HTC S OFF procedure.
I accidentally deleted two stock apps upon a factory reset after rooting (flashlight and calculator), but I already found the apk and reinstalled them.
P.S. - AdAway also failed to function but from what I have read around it requires S-OFF to work properly.
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all you need is a insecure kernel as you can see changes to the system partition are lost if you don't have one
look for a matching kernel to your rom or choose a rom that already includes this feature
The only reason you need s-off is to flash firmware older than the one currently on the phone and some GPe/Lollipop roms
I have rooted my Pixel 2 XL using the pinned tutorial in this forum and it went fine (I get a message that "my device is not working, contact support" after booting but nothing seems wrong with it).
I want to install the new 9.0 version of Android, and I have an OTA notification on my phone that the update is available.
Question 1: Can I press this notification and normally install the update? are there any risks involved?
Question 2: If the answer to Q1 is no, the natural approach would be to sideload the update as mentioned in the same tutorial (adb reboot recovery, adb sideload <zip_name>.zip). Is there anything else I should be aware of? I just want to avoid running into problems and/or bricking my device.
Thanks!
If you have a stock recovery installed, then yes, you can take the OTA. You will lose root. As to risks, there are always risks, but with an OTA they are minimal.
If you have a custom recovery installed, you will need to either sideload the OTA or flash the OTA in the custom recovery. Again, you will lose root and again, there will always be risks.
While your caution is warranted since there are always risks of something going wrong, it's very difficult to brick a Google device. Especially a Google device with A and B ROM slots. Using adb commands you could select the working slot if the current slot is malfunctioning. At least, that's how I understand it: Google may have automated the process.
Thanks for your reply! Yes I kept the original recovery because when I rooted I assumed things would be easier with stock recovery and I wasn't planning on flashing custom roms/kernels, and turns out I was right. Thanks again!