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[Q] need help with xbmc/sd card and snes emulators please...

I've been reading and reading on xda, xbmc.org.... And I've got my aftv rooted, xbmc installed and working well... I've got a usb stick on it with stickmount... What I can't seem to find is how to get movies I download on aftv xbmc to save on the usb stick...
Also, where can I get an up to date gsnes emulator apk and how do I get roms on the usb stick? Just save from my laptop on the stick and put it back on the firetv?
Thanks for any help

hdjoe said:
I've been reading and reading on xda, xbmc.org.... And I've got my aftv rooted, xbmc installed and working well... I've got a usb stick on it with stickmount... What I can't seem to find is how to get movies I download on aftv xbmc to save on the usb stick...
Also, where can I get an up to date gsnes emulator apk and how do I get roms on the usb stick? Just save from my laptop on the stick and put it back on the firetv?
Thanks for any help
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I use Total Commander for moving files from my computer to my usb stick in my AFTV.
XBMC has config files you can change the location of stuff in them. There is probably a few threads explaining how. I'd do a search.
I use Foldermount to move some of my Xbmc stuff to my usbstick. But I don't download movies thru xbmc, so I don't know if it stores them there.
Google Play store will have your up to date emulators. At the very least, they have links to the dev's websites which usually have the apk's you can download.
I made a directory on my usbstick called ROMS and then I make sub directories, like NES, SNES, GBA, Gen, etc for my roms & bios (as needed).

Thanks for your help! Once I get my 32gb stick tomorrow, I'll get locked down how you said..

[SCRIPT] Mount Samba/CIFS shares

I hacked up a script to mount a single Samba/CIFS share using adb shell directly on the firetv. This can be executed using any script manager (I use Rom Toolbox Pro's scripter) and if configured by your script manager it will in fact execute and mount the share on boot. If you have more than one share just use more than one copy of this script or feel free to hack it up yourself to extend it I am pretty much done with it at the moment but wanted to share.
Requires root and a script manager that can run scripts as root - also I have busybox installed on my firetv so that may be helpful as well.
https://github.com/mattgyver83/pyro

mattgyver83 said:
I hacked up a script to mount a single Samba/CIFS share using adb shell directly on the firetv. This can be executed using any script manager (I use Rom Toolbox Pro's scripter) and if configured by your script manager it will in fact execute and mount the share on boot.
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Awesome! Any chance that games/apps could be run off of the mounted SMB share?

What is the purpose of this? Can you not just use an app like ES File Explorer or another SMB app to browse to a shared LAN folder?
Thanks.

tdfsu said:
What is the purpose of this? Can you not just use an app like ES File Explorer or another SMB app to browse to a shared LAN folder?
Thanks.
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Unfortunately no. ES File Explorer lets you browse network shares but it does not let you mount them and this means that only ES File Explorer can see the contents no other application can see those files and that problem is two fold, not only is that because its not a feature of ES File Explorer but its because of the security implementation of Android even if they tryed to implement it. The purpose of this script is to mount the network share to a local folder on the filesystem so that within any application you can browse to that directory and see those network files so they can be used, this is GREAT if you have a device that has a small storage footprint like the FireTV and you are already sharing out files on your network.

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Awesome! Any chance that games/apps could be run off of the mounted SMB share?
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Sorry I thought I had already replied to this a few days ago but apparently I didnt hit submit or something. Yes, that is exactly what this script is for and for that use case it works very well.
Edit: Sorry, I incorrectly answered your question. You can't run or install android applications over the network with this but you can perhaps store data on your network and load it within the application. An example would be like installing an emulator on your firetv and browsing to a ROM share on your network and loading the rom over the LAN. It would be pretty complicated to execute games or applications and likely troublesome.

I think I get the basic idea but I have questions...
1. Will this make it possible for aftv to be seen in workgroup by my other devices or at least show up if added as a network share?(remembered I don't think android can be in workgroup)
2. If your aftv's external drive is already mounted with adbFire mount samba drives script, are there any potential conflicts? Busybox is installed through adbFire.
This is the last piece for me. Every xbmc device can connect to the others, all connect to server, but my 2 aftvs can't share local files over smb with any other devices or each other.

KLit75 said:
I think I get the basic idea but I have questions...
1. Will this make it possible for aftv to be seen in workgroup by my other devices or at least show up if added as a network share?(remembered I don't think android can be in workgroup).
2. If your aftv's external drive is already mounted with adbFire mount samba drives script, are there any potential conflicts? Busybox is installed through adbFire.
This is the last piece for me. Every xbmc device can connect to the others, all connect to server, but my 2 aftvs can't share local files over smb with any other devices or each other.
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To answer your questions;
1. No, this doesn't implement samba which is what would make it seen on your network. The way that I personally achieve this on my firetv is by sideloading and running "Samba FileSharing", that will do exactly what your trying todo there.
2. Until you said that I had no idea that adbFire even offered this kind of feature and have never used it. I would have to play with it but assuming its doing things the same way then unless your using the same mountpoint then no there should be no issues.
edit: The adbFire thing intrigued me so I took another look at it - please correct me if I am wrong though. From what I gather it does not actually mount a network share, what it does is start a samba server to share out your attached USB drive as a network share. This is very different than what my script does as it just connects network shares to your fireTV locally. My answers remain the same then, it shouldn't hurt anything. What I think you are looking for is probably more along the lines of a Samba Server running on the FireTV and you would only require my script if you need the other fireTVs to be able to see the shared out files as if they resided locally on it for apps to use.
Hope that helps

mattgyver83 said:
To answer your questions;
1. No, this doesn't implement samba which is what would make it seen on your network. The way that I personally achieve this on my firetv is by sideloading and running "Samba FileSharing", that will do exactly what your trying todo there.
2. Until you said that I had no idea that adbFire even offered this kind of feature and have never used it. I would have to play with it but assuming its doing things the same way then unless your using the same mountpoint then no there should be no issues.
edit: The adbFire thing intrigued me so I took another look at it - please correct me if I am wrong though. From what I gather it does not actually mount a network share, what it does is start a samba server to share out your attached USB drive as a network share. This is very different than what my script does as it just connects network shares to your fireTV locally. My answers remain the same then, it shouldn't hurt anything. What I think you are looking for is probably more along the lines of a Samba Server running on the FireTV and you would only require my script if you need the other fireTVs to be able to see the shared out files as if they resided locally on it for apps to use.
Hope that helps
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Thanks. I wish I could speak a little more confidently about it it but at this time I've got more to learn.
Yes. That's exactly what I want--aftv to act as a server just like my computers do. I didn't fully understand that function on adbfire so I did install 3rd party smb software on aftv. There was a conflict. I needed to uninstall the software. Now I can transfer files over sftp, I can ssh to aftv but my Mac won't connect to the smb://adbfire/USB/ I tried cifs as well. Adbfire's script DOES support this but I can't get it working with Mac. Normally I'd say user error but I'm not the only one who can't do it. And it doesn't work on the new aftv I just bought so definetly not something I messed up.
I hesitate just because adbfire uses the same binaries as one of the popular smb softwares on play store. So I don't want to potentially break things trying to make it better. But this would be a great feature to get working. I know, as you said, your script doesn't do that. But if I get samba working as it should your script might be useful.
Sorry. I'm probably just filling this with words that don't all apply. Apparently I could benefit from what your offering but not until I get samba working correctly. And I'd be appreciative for any info to get that going but it MIGHT be a little off topic here. Thanks a lot for the quick detailed response!

Hey no problems glad I could help get you sorted out, I'll PM you with some more specific information that I think you are after that should get you where you want to be.

mattgyver83 said:
Sorry I thought I had already replied to this a few days ago but apparently I didnt hit submit or something. Yes, that is exactly what this script is for and for that use case it works very well.
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Perfect. Any chance you can share how you actually install Fire TV apps to the SMB share? This would be great given the limited internal storage

Any chance you can share how you actually install Fire TV apps to the SMB share?
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I don't use it in that way I just use it for accessing my current network shares from within applications on the fireTV, that is about all this script is intended for. To be honest I don't even think the way that the script is mounting the shares and in order for it to work would have to be implemented at the lower android levels so it could even properly boot that way. Its for the best though, networks generally are not as reliable as direct disk IO so I would suggest sticking to using internal storage, possibly checking out one of the external USB methods, and then just using your shares to house large data so you can basically make the most of all of your storage along the way. Hope this helps.
Edit: I just wanted to add that I looked back at our conversation and I see how I made it seem that might be possible. Sorry I clearly did not answer your question correctly for some reason what I read and what you said were two very different things, I was of the mindset that you were asking about loading ROMs persay over the network from within an emulation app and I have no idea why I thought thats what you were asking. That is not what your asking, no this wont load android applications over the network - Ill edit that post to make that distinction clearer.

mattgyver83 said:
I hacked up a script to mount a single Samba/CIFS share using adb shell directly on the firetv. This can be executed using any script manager (I use Rom Toolbox Pro's scripter) and if configured by your script manager it will in fact execute and mount the share on boot. If you have more than one share just use more than one copy of this script or feel free to hack it up yourself to extend it I am pretty much done with it at the moment but wanted to share.
Requires root and a script manager that can run scripts as root - also I have busybox installed on my firetv so that may be helpful as well.
https://github.com/mattgyver83/pyro
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Works for me, thanks

Hi Mr Richard Dean Anderson
Magyver or O'neil?
..does this ciffs method depend on having fire tv i.e. a fire tv OS/kernel
What i mean is, can this script, potentially, be used, to work on "any" android, or does this only work for fire tv specifically?

banderos101 said:
Hi Mr Richard Dean Anderson
Magyver or O'neil?
..does this ciffs method depend on having fire tv i.e. a fire tv OS/kernel
What i mean is, can this script, potentially, be used, to work on "any" android, or does this only work for fire tv specifically?
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Looks like it should work for android where you can enable adb, must have root and busybox.

Thank you for the script. Got it working using your example, but with one caveat I can't figure out.
So here's what I was trying to accomplish using this. I have a large library in Kodi so I was going to move all the data to my NAS and point Kodi to it. I had originally moved everything to a usb disk but just preferred the NAS route. The share mounts to /mnt/obb/myfiles and if I'm logged in as 'su' I can see the directory inside myfiles. Problem is anything stored inside myfiles isn't viewable outside of 'su'. How do I setup the share to be viewable by the shell acct?

Accessing an NTFS drive via Fire TV 4k

Hello!
Just purchased a Fire TV 4k to replace my WDTV Live and I've run in to a bit of a problem. I have successfully rooted the machine and I installed Stickmount to be able to access my NTFS-formated external hard drive but Stickmount appears to be unable to see the drive. The drive is a Seagate 4TB, powered by a separate PSU but it does not appear to turn on at all either when plugged in to the Fire TV or when trying to mount it.
Is there something silly that I am overlooking? Is there a known issue with some drives or perhaps I am just really unlucky and this one won't work? Are there alternatives to using Stickmount?
All I want to do is have a nicer looking, better performing version of the WDTV to play my media... Why must you make it so tricky Amazon?
Anyway, really appreciate your help and patience!

okay so, turns out switching off debugging via USB allowed the drive to power up but it still doesn't seem to be mountable or, perhaps, i can't see the drive's contents on kodi.
any idea where that stuff usually goes?

I only rooted two days ago. Stickmount hasn't been useful for me. Paragon exFAT, NTFS & EFS+ however has been great with my NTFS hard drives. It seems to run and do most stuff automatically, it does have a couple of options. If your drive is alive after installation this is the process to get things working in Kodi.
1) Go into KODI and select the Video menu then Files below it.
2) Select Files from the menu then Add videos. A window called Add Video source should appear.
3) Click the Browse button. Select External storage. You'll see a folder named ParagonNTFS If your drive is mounted.
4) Select or Open ParagonNTFS then click OK on the right side of the screen.
5) The Add Video source window appears, click Add. Then OK
From there it's straight forward. Kodi will ask how you have your files stored, index them and other fun things. So far with hard drives I've found that the Fire TV 2 wants them to be powered or connected to a powered USB hub.

NutterNatter said:
I only rooted two days ago. Stickmount hasn't been useful for me. Paragon exFAT, NTFS & EFS+ however has been great with my NTFS hard drives. It seems to run and do most stuff automatically, it does have a couple of options. If your drive is alive after installation this is the process to get things working in Kodi.
1) Go into KODI and select the Video menu then Files below it.
2) Select Files from the menu then Add videos. A window called Add Video source should appear.
3) Click the Browse button. Select External storage. You'll see a folder named ParagonNTFS If your drive is mounted.
4) Select or Open ParagonNTFS then click OK on the right side of the screen.
5) The Add Video source window appears, click Add. Then OK
From there it's straight forward. Kodi will ask how you have your files stored, index them and other fun things. So far with hard drives I've found that the Fire TV 2 wants them to be powered or connected to a powered USB hub.
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ah fantastic, i shall look in to this. what's the easiest way to get ParagonNTFS onto the Fire TV?

May I make a suggestion if this doesn't work out? Your router might have a USB port designed to allow a hard drive's contents to be a network share. Not only will Kodi be able to access the drive easier, every computer/Fire TV will be able to access it, too.

Sizzlechest said:
May I make a suggestion if this doesn't work out? Your router might have a USB port designed to allow a hard drive's contents to be a network share. Not only will Kodi be able to access the drive easier, every computer/Fire TV will be able to access it, too.
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unfortunately mine doesn't. i have found out that my old WDTV Live acts as a NAS server of some kind (i guess, it allows a harddrive to appear on the network anyway) so i am using that for now and able to view all my files. i will try out Paragon or otherwise buy the cheap usb-ethernet device i was linked to via Reddit.

Glad I found this thread.
Here's a Mac guide for this. It will cover formatting a drive in NTFS and the program you need on the Fire TV to mount the NTFS drive and how to make this work with Kodi.
http://marksmods.com/Hack-the-Fire-...e-Fire-TV-and-use-an-External-Hard-Drive.html
I'm loving this Fire TV more every day.

Just for hard drive?
Guys, being limited to fat32 and related file size < 4gb is the biggest issue that really sucks with ftv for me. I have some questions, as you already successfully removed this limt.
Does this way by paragon ntfs help even to mount an usb stick? Will stick be mounted as otg (as fat32 before) or do i will find it in the paragonntfs folder, same as the HDD?
What method you took for rooting?
If used kingroot, did you apply factory reset after finished , as i read of this recommendation?
Thanks and cheers

Meandi51 said:
Guys, being limited to fat32 and related file size < 4gb is the biggest issue that really sucks with ftv for me. I have some questions, as you already successfully removed this limt.
Does this way by paragon ntfs help even to mount an usb stick? Will stick be mounted as otg (as fat32 before) or do i will find it in the paragonntfs folder, same as the HDD?
What method you took for rooting?
If used kingroot, did you apply factory reset after finished , as i read of this recommendation?
Thanks and cheers
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An external drive is an external drive. I don't see why there would be any difference to paragon whether you were using a flash chip or a spinning platter to contain your data files.

Rooted today and paragon app works well with flash chip. Anyone experience with CF stickmount? What's the difference to Paragon except it needs extfat formatted drives?

Paragon ntfs su notifications
Hi,
im on the latest prerooted rom on my 2gen fire tv with Paragon ntfs intalled.
But i always get these paragon su granted notifications on screen every 5-10min, which drives me crazy
Does anybody get the same notifications?
How do i get rid of them?

Kodi saving movie to usb

I have installed Kodi on my firetv (rooted)when I tried to save a film to my usb flash drive but it would not let me also the same with sdcard.
Thanks for any help z4

Cool, bro!
*silence*
Fat32 has a filesize limit of 4GB > movie was larger > *pity* > Android 5.x doesnt mount the sdcard2 as writeable by default anymore (not sure what it does with USB media) > if you used a program that cant pull root rights to remount the drive > *pity*.
(If you are looking for such a program: Total Commander (Amazon App Store).)
edit: If you are talking about moving a file to those two kinds of storage media from a PC or (have mercy) a tablet - and dont know about filesystems (fat32, ntfs, ...) or that the Fire TV devices are locked down to only be able to read fat32 by Amazon itself (there might be a workaround for rooted devices - search these forums) - thats entirely your fault.
Also at this point I would commend you for not using the words PC or the program you tried to use at all and just having clicked away the error message - because this makes our part of the question/answer game - so much easier.
Short answer for dudebros: Buy a NAS, or a router with an USB port (dd-wrt compatible ones cost 10-30 USD used) if the 4GB filesizelimt of fat32 is the problem - or wait until someone cares to tell you if there is a root solution to mounting different filesystems on a rooted Fire TV. Also if you have a Fire TV 2 and just have dropped the 2, because - why not - theres currently no such solution that has been publicly explored. Maybe tomorrow. But If there is not - *shrug* (Most of us (probably) use NAS boxes or network shares, you (probably) dont.)

I am a newbie with the fire tv so there is a lot I dont understand all I wanted to do was save a avi file from Genesis in Kodi to a usb flash drive.
z4

zephyr4 said:
I am a newbie with the fire tv so there is a lot I dont understand all I wanted to do was save a avi file from Genesis in Kodi to a usb flash drive.
z4
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Just like on the official kodi forums you won't get here any support for piracy add-ons.
https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-and-youtube-promoters-are-killing-kodi/
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Ok sorry, I never thought about that.

Banging my head--WHY is AFTV automatically moving data?

I'm really confused so I'll try to provide details I can recall...
My AFTV gen 1 with OS5 kodi install was a little glitchy so eventually wound up doing a clean install.
This came AFTER MANY attempts to preserve my data.
The last 2 times I tried this I completely wiped every bit of kodi data I had on internal and USB. I installed kodi Jarvis.
The 1st time I scanned sources and it populated fine. But when I exit kodi then relaunch it I'm greeted with what looks like a blank install!
To sum up, it appears like when I exit Kodi it sends Kodi data to my usb BUT there are no settings in place to actually read that data so Kodi is blank.
Last time I made certain to remove everything. Then I took my sources.xml from my other aftv (same setup) and moved it to the problem aftv. I start up kodi, all seems fine--my movies and TV shows are there. I exit and POOF! Its gone again. If I delete my kodi data from usb drive Kodi works again but when I exit it repeats the cycle.
I'm stumped. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
***I think the issue would be resolved if someone could just tell me why data keeps exporting to my usb drive. I keep deleting it but Kodi winds up back on my usb once I exit.

http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android
This took 5 seconds on google.
Backing up Kodi is as simple as copying over the userdata folder, btw. If you don't know how to copy files, learn to use adb and get to know the filestructure of kodi a bit better using a file explorer on the Fire TV. Or just use a File explorer and copy the userdata folder to a networkdrive (Total commandar f.e. has a lan plugin), or a usb stick, or... If you don't know what a folder is... Try to learn that as well...

harlekinwashere said:
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android
This took 5 seconds on google.
Backing up Kodi is as simple as copying over the userdata folder, btw. If you don't know how to copy files, learn to use adb and get to know the filestructure of kodi a bit better using a file explorer on the Fire TV. Or just use a File explorer and copy the userdata folder to a networkdrive (Total commandar f.e. has a lan plugin), or a usb stick, or... If you don't know what a folder is... Try to learn that as well...
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I appreciate the help but Ive been using Kodi since Frodo and aftv gen 1 since June 2014. Ive been through numerous kodi versions and never has the aftv just defaulted to moving all the data to usb...
In fact Im pretty sure it doesn't because theres methods available specifically for aftv to properly move data to usb.
I have to take a closer look at my other aftv. Its running the same kodi version.
***Btw my bandaid was to remove my usb stick and copy sources.xml from my other aftv. It works fine but of course not having external storage isnt a good option.