Accessing an NTFS drive via Fire TV 4k - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello!
Just purchased a Fire TV 4k to replace my WDTV Live and I've run in to a bit of a problem. I have successfully rooted the machine and I installed Stickmount to be able to access my NTFS-formated external hard drive but Stickmount appears to be unable to see the drive. The drive is a Seagate 4TB, powered by a separate PSU but it does not appear to turn on at all either when plugged in to the Fire TV or when trying to mount it.
Is there something silly that I am overlooking? Is there a known issue with some drives or perhaps I am just really unlucky and this one won't work? Are there alternatives to using Stickmount?
All I want to do is have a nicer looking, better performing version of the WDTV to play my media... Why must you make it so tricky Amazon?
Anyway, really appreciate your help and patience!

okay so, turns out switching off debugging via USB allowed the drive to power up but it still doesn't seem to be mountable or, perhaps, i can't see the drive's contents on kodi.
any idea where that stuff usually goes?

I only rooted two days ago. Stickmount hasn't been useful for me. Paragon exFAT, NTFS & EFS+ however has been great with my NTFS hard drives. It seems to run and do most stuff automatically, it does have a couple of options. If your drive is alive after installation this is the process to get things working in Kodi.
1) Go into KODI and select the Video menu then Files below it.
2) Select Files from the menu then Add videos. A window called Add Video source should appear.
3) Click the Browse button. Select External storage. You'll see a folder named ParagonNTFS If your drive is mounted.
4) Select or Open ParagonNTFS then click OK on the right side of the screen.
5) The Add Video source window appears, click Add. Then OK
From there it's straight forward. Kodi will ask how you have your files stored, index them and other fun things. So far with hard drives I've found that the Fire TV 2 wants them to be powered or connected to a powered USB hub.

NutterNatter said:
I only rooted two days ago. Stickmount hasn't been useful for me. Paragon exFAT, NTFS & EFS+ however has been great with my NTFS hard drives. It seems to run and do most stuff automatically, it does have a couple of options. If your drive is alive after installation this is the process to get things working in Kodi.
1) Go into KODI and select the Video menu then Files below it.
2) Select Files from the menu then Add videos. A window called Add Video source should appear.
3) Click the Browse button. Select External storage. You'll see a folder named ParagonNTFS If your drive is mounted.
4) Select or Open ParagonNTFS then click OK on the right side of the screen.
5) The Add Video source window appears, click Add. Then OK
From there it's straight forward. Kodi will ask how you have your files stored, index them and other fun things. So far with hard drives I've found that the Fire TV 2 wants them to be powered or connected to a powered USB hub.
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ah fantastic, i shall look in to this. what's the easiest way to get ParagonNTFS onto the Fire TV?

May I make a suggestion if this doesn't work out? Your router might have a USB port designed to allow a hard drive's contents to be a network share. Not only will Kodi be able to access the drive easier, every computer/Fire TV will be able to access it, too.

Sizzlechest said:
May I make a suggestion if this doesn't work out? Your router might have a USB port designed to allow a hard drive's contents to be a network share. Not only will Kodi be able to access the drive easier, every computer/Fire TV will be able to access it, too.
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unfortunately mine doesn't. i have found out that my old WDTV Live acts as a NAS server of some kind (i guess, it allows a harddrive to appear on the network anyway) so i am using that for now and able to view all my files. i will try out Paragon or otherwise buy the cheap usb-ethernet device i was linked to via Reddit.

Glad I found this thread.
Here's a Mac guide for this. It will cover formatting a drive in NTFS and the program you need on the Fire TV to mount the NTFS drive and how to make this work with Kodi.
http://marksmods.com/Hack-the-Fire-...e-Fire-TV-and-use-an-External-Hard-Drive.html
I'm loving this Fire TV more every day.

Just for hard drive?
Guys, being limited to fat32 and related file size < 4gb is the biggest issue that really sucks with ftv for me. I have some questions, as you already successfully removed this limt.
Does this way by paragon ntfs help even to mount an usb stick? Will stick be mounted as otg (as fat32 before) or do i will find it in the paragonntfs folder, same as the HDD?
What method you took for rooting?
If used kingroot, did you apply factory reset after finished , as i read of this recommendation?
Thanks and cheers

Meandi51 said:
Guys, being limited to fat32 and related file size < 4gb is the biggest issue that really sucks with ftv for me. I have some questions, as you already successfully removed this limt.
Does this way by paragon ntfs help even to mount an usb stick? Will stick be mounted as otg (as fat32 before) or do i will find it in the paragonntfs folder, same as the HDD?
What method you took for rooting?
If used kingroot, did you apply factory reset after finished , as i read of this recommendation?
Thanks and cheers
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An external drive is an external drive. I don't see why there would be any difference to paragon whether you were using a flash chip or a spinning platter to contain your data files.

Rooted today and paragon app works well with flash chip. Anyone experience with CF stickmount? What's the difference to Paragon except it needs extfat formatted drives?

Paragon ntfs su notifications
Hi,
im on the latest prerooted rom on my 2gen fire tv with Paragon ntfs intalled.
But i always get these paragon su granted notifications on screen every 5-10min, which drives me crazy
Does anybody get the same notifications?
How do i get rid of them?

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StickMount Mount Label

Hi, I have StickMount (Paid version) on FTV. I have a USB mounted (Ext4 type).
StickMount mounts it correctly and I can see it with the "mount" command.
The problem is, even though I have selected the option "Mount as partition label", StickMount will mount the USB as "sda1". I have verified that my USB has a partition label of "FTV", set through the MiniTool software. I can clearly see the "FTV" as the label name in the tool.
I also ran "blkid" on FTV and I see this line for the USB storage:
/dev/block/sda1: LABEL="FTV" UUID="......."
Any reason why StickMount is not mounting it as "FTV"?
Well, I have tried both ways by checking/unchecking the option in StickMount, no mas. At this point, is there any manual way by writing a script to do the mount? Do I need to create a block device in /dev/block. I am still trying to understand it, coming from a Windows background. Clearly, there is a bug in StickMount, unless I am missing something very simple. I have scoured through the logcat and I don't see any mention of my partition label name. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Has this bug been fixed yet?
Neo3D said:
Has this bug been fixed yet?
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I am not sure. I stopped using StickMount a long time back (probably around the time of my OP) as it never worked correctly. E.g. it used to give a bogus message that my USB was mounted when there was no USB connected to FTV.... I used the "OTG Helper" after that, it did not have the mount name option, but it did work correctly as far as basic functionality was concerned. Finally stopped using USB and now use WD MyCloud for my needs.
As regards to the other Q about buying the paid version, I had bought it through Google Play Store and not Amazon. Thanks.

[Q] Path Substitution Not Working

I picked up a USB flash drive to use for my Kodi thumbnails so I wouldn't keep running out of space on my Fire TV. I mounted the drive using stick mount, then added the code below to my advancedsettings.xml file, but I don't believe it's working. I'm assuming that when I pop the flash drive into my computer, I'd be able to see a bunch of thumbnail files on there, wouldn't I? But my thumb drive is blank. Below is the code I'm using. Am I missing something? Is my path in the TO line not specific enough? (I created an "xbmcthumbnails" folder on my flash drive.)
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
I don't think StickMount mounts USB drives as "drive1". It should be mounted at "sda" or "sdb"... You can use the "mount" command to see how your USB is mounted. Nothing to do with your issue, but StickMount worked correctly for me initially, but it never unmounted drives and wrongly showed mounted USBs when no USB was hooked to FTV. Plus, I could never mount USBs using volume names (instead of sda..) with StickMount. There is another app that worked very good for me, USB OTG Helper. Last I checked a while back, USB OTG app didn't do that either.
On a related note, the "from" tag can use Kodi special paths to identify locations within its install. You can modify your "from" tag to
<from>special://masterprofile/Thumbnails/</from>
This holds if you have not created any profiles in Kodi. If you have, check "special://profile". For reference, see http://kodi.wiki/view/Special_protocol
dbdoshi said:
I don't think StickMount mounts USB drives as "drive1". It should be mounted at "sda" or "sdb"... You can use the "mount" command to see how your USB is mounted. Nothing to do with your issue, but StickMount worked correctly for me initially, but it never unmounted drives and wrongly showed mounted USBs when no USB was hooked to FTV. Plus, I could never mount USBs using volume names (instead of sda..) with StickMount. There is another app that worked very good for me, USB OTG Helper. Last I checked a while back, USB OTG app didn't do that either.
On a related note, the "from" tag can use Kodi special paths to identify locations within its install. You can modify your "from" tag to
<from>special://masterprofile/Thumbnails/</from>
This holds if you have not created any profiles in Kodi. If you have, check "special://profile". For reference, see http://kodi.wiki/view/Special_protocol
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This will also work:
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files/.kodi/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/emulated/0/usbstorage/sda1/kodithumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
dbdoshi said:
I don't think StickMount mounts USB drives as "drive1". It should be mounted at "sda" or "sdb"... You can use the "mount" command to see how your USB is mounted.
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he is likely using Busymount
which does mount as drive 1, again nothing to do with his issue though
jmerrilljr2 said:
This will also work:
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files/.kodi/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/emulated/0/usbstorage/sda1/kodithumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
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This appears to have done the trick, thankyouverymuch! I've got a new folder on my thumb drive called kodithumbnails, which contains folders for every letter of the alphabet. So it looks like it's working.
The only snag is now movie cover art doesn't appear, just the text name and a blank space above it. Another gentleman on this forum told me that this was expected behavior, and that I'd need to go in and delete a file from my Fire TV in order to bring the movie covers back, but I was not successful in finding the file (using ES File Explorer) anywhere on my Fire TV. I was looking for a file called "textures13db." Might that have changed with the update to Kodi? Or how else might I go about bringing back the cover art?
From within kodi itself
Raymondo17 said:
This appears to have done the trick, thankyouverymuch! I've got a new folder on my thumb drive called kodithumbnails, which contains folders for every letter of the alphabet. So it looks like it's working.
The only snag is now movie cover art doesn't appear, just the text name and a blank space above it. Another gentleman on this forum told me that this was expected behavior, and that I'd need to go in and delete a file from my Fire TV in order to bring the movie covers back, but I was not successful in finding the file (using ES File Explorer) anywhere on my Fire TV. I was looking for a file called "textures13db." Might that have changed with the update to Kodi? Or how else might I go about bringing back the cover art?
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You need to go to in Lodi itself settings/file manager/database/ highlight textures13.db and press c if using a keyboard or long press on your remote to bring up the context menu then press delete

Possible to connect external hard drive and torrent?

Hey guys. Looking at buying the amazon fire tv for my room to watch movies, tv shows, and maybe play some gta. But im determining if its the right fit for me. So i was wondering if its possible to connect my 2tb usb2/3 hdd to the fire tv, and is it possible to have a torrent client (maybe just utorrent after sideloading play store?) to download lage files to the hard drive. Also i assume ill have to root so is the newest version rootable and can do what i asked above? Im not sure what the newest version is to look it up myself. Any guides on how to do what i asked will be much appreciated!
evodev said:
Hey guys. Looking at buying the amazon fire tv for my room to watch movies, tv shows, and maybe play some gta. But im determining if its the right fit for me. So i was wondering if its possible to connect my 2tb usb2/3 hdd to the fire tv, and is it possible to have a torrent client (maybe just utorrent after sideloading play store?) to download lage files to the hard drive. Also i assume ill have to root so is the newest version rootable and can do what i asked above? Im not sure what the newest version is to look it up myself. Any guides on how to do what i asked will be much appreciated!
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Yes the latest version of the Fire Tv (AFTV2 4K version) is rootable (v5.0.4), you can find the method in the general section of this forum or there is gonna be a video guide available sometime next week (hopefully) if you can wait? As far as I know you can put a Hard drive on but not sure unless modded you can write to it (unless doing via a PC/laptop because I think at the moment the drive is only readable? (I maybe wrong about that though?). Playstore can be installed but can't be used properly (can login but can't download apps from), but you can sideload apps via a app called Apps2Fire from your Android phone or tablet. Think you can use torrent clients via Kodi anyway or just stream films/tv/sports or what ever from Kodi?
Root link 5.0.4 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/root-amazon-fire-tv-2-updated-t3277556
Hope this helps If so press that thanks button
Can someone chime if they've been able to mount and write to an external hard drive? I'm also interested in using the fire tv for torrents.
I have the fire TV 4k with the latest rooted version, I mounted a 3TB WD hard drive with Stickmount. I have used the Utorrent apk to write to the hard drive successfully. I haven't used the Kodi torrent addons tho.
But yes you can read and write to a hard drive. I have downloaded media straight to a hard drive using Utorrent, Kodi, Dolphin browser and Es File Manager.
Ocarb said:
I have the fire TV 4k with the latest rooted version, I mounted a 3TB WD hard drive with Stickmount. I have used the Utorrent apk to write to the hard drive successfully. I haven't used the Kodi torrent addons tho.
But yes you can read and write to a hard drive. I have downloaded media straight to a hard drive using Utorrent, Kodi, Dolphin browser and Es File Manager.
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Which format is your 3TB HDD.
I have not rooted mine and can only get fat32 to read which is ridiculous in this day and age to only support an archaic storage format. You can't have 4GB+ file sizes.
drizzt09 said:
Which format is your 3TB HDD.
I have not rooted mine and can only get fat32 to read which is ridiculous in this day and age to only support an archaic storage format. You can't have 4GB+ file sizes.
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NTFS. I just finished downloading a 9GB video.

Kodi saving movie to usb

I have installed Kodi on my firetv (rooted)when I tried to save a film to my usb flash drive but it would not let me also the same with sdcard.
Thanks for any help z4
Cool, bro!
*silence*
Fat32 has a filesize limit of 4GB > movie was larger > *pity* > Android 5.x doesnt mount the sdcard2 as writeable by default anymore (not sure what it does with USB media) > if you used a program that cant pull root rights to remount the drive > *pity*.
(If you are looking for such a program: Total Commander (Amazon App Store).)
edit: If you are talking about moving a file to those two kinds of storage media from a PC or (have mercy) a tablet - and dont know about filesystems (fat32, ntfs, ...) or that the Fire TV devices are locked down to only be able to read fat32 by Amazon itself (there might be a workaround for rooted devices - search these forums) - thats entirely your fault.
Also at this point I would commend you for not using the words PC or the program you tried to use at all and just having clicked away the error message - because this makes our part of the question/answer game - so much easier.
Short answer for dudebros: Buy a NAS, or a router with an USB port (dd-wrt compatible ones cost 10-30 USD used) if the 4GB filesizelimt of fat32 is the problem - or wait until someone cares to tell you if there is a root solution to mounting different filesystems on a rooted Fire TV. Also if you have a Fire TV 2 and just have dropped the 2, because - why not - theres currently no such solution that has been publicly explored. Maybe tomorrow. But If there is not - *shrug* (Most of us (probably) use NAS boxes or network shares, you (probably) dont.)
I am a newbie with the fire tv so there is a lot I dont understand all I wanted to do was save a avi file from Genesis in Kodi to a usb flash drive.
z4
zephyr4 said:
I am a newbie with the fire tv so there is a lot I dont understand all I wanted to do was save a avi file from Genesis in Kodi to a usb flash drive.
z4
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Just like on the official kodi forums you won't get here any support for piracy add-ons.
https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-and-youtube-promoters-are-killing-kodi/
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Ok sorry, I never thought about that.

Moving apps to USB storage and Official Updates, best way to do it?

Hi everyone,
On my 4k firestick and my firetv 3rd gen (dongle) I’m using an otg cable, and an external usb drive formatted using ADB partition command. In order to move the apps from the internal to external storage I either use de ADB move command or the MiXplorer, the downside on using the MiXplorer is that you have to copy the app to the downloader folder, uninstall it and then reinstall it from the folder and it goes straight to the usb partition, but this method looses al the login info, not a major drawback but nerveless a nuisance.
When it comes to update the apps from amazon’s official appstore we run in to an error if the app is located in the external drive, so the solution is either move it back to the internal storage, update it and move it back either by uninstalling it and downloading it again from the Appstore, moving with ADB command, or using the downloader app to find the newest version and install it over the old one, although this last method works it is prone to errors due to choosing the wrong apk version listed on those alternative sources (apkmirror and others).
So, my question is if there is an app with a graphic interface like MiXplorere that allows to move the apps to and from the USB storage in a similar way as the ADB command line? Is there a different method that I’m missing?
Thanks in advance,
London
london18 said:
Hi everyone,
On my 4k firestick and my firetv 3rd gen (dongle) I’m using an otg cable, and an external usb drive formatted using ADB partition command. In order to move the apps from the internal to external storage I either use de ADB move command or the MiXplorer, the downside on using the MiXplorer is that you have to copy the app to the downloader folder, uninstall it and then reinstall it from the folder and it goes straight to the usb partition, but this method looses al the login info, not a major drawback but nerveless a nuisance.
When it comes to update the apps from amazon’s official appstore we run in to an error if the app is located in the external drive, so the solution is either move it back to the internal storage, update it and move it back either by uninstalling it and downloading it again from the Appstore, moving with ADB command, or using the downloader app to find the newest version and install it over the old one, although this last method works it is prone to errors due to choosing the wrong apk version listed on those alternative sources (apkmirror and others).
So, my question is if there is an app with a graphic interface like MiXplorere that allows to move the apps to and from the USB storage in a similar way as the ADB command line? Is there a different method that I’m missing?
Thanks in advance,
London
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Hey,
Not sure if you've tried apps2sd Pro?
To use this this app you will have to set partitions on the extsdcard USB first.
If I remember correctly one partition is made ext4 and one FAT32.
The ext4 partition becomes apps adopted storage when mounted and the FAT32 partition becomes normal storage for downloads etc.
Hope this helps
Regards
Unfortunately, Apps2sd Pro only works in rooted devices, not the case here.
Any how thanks for the suggestion, let's if there is some other solution in this line.
Cheers,
London
london18 said:
Unfortunately, Apps2sd Pro only works in rooted devices, not the case here.
Any how thanks for the suggestion, let's if there is some other solution in this line.
Cheers,
London
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Hi,
Apologies I guess I just assumed you were rooted as most on here use rooted devices.
The only other (known) way is described here :
How To Increase Storage On Firestick & Fire TV in 2022
This post will explain how to Increase Storage on Firestick & Fire TVs. The Amazon Firestick is the most popular streaming device available on the
troypoint.com
Apart from that I know of no other way to use adopted storage on fireos without root.
Regards
Bertonumber1 said:
Hi,
Apologies I guess I just assumed you were rooted as most on here use rooted devices.
The only other (known) way is described here :
How To Increase Storage On Firestick & Fire TV in 2022
This post will explain how to Increase Storage on Firestick & Fire TVs. The Amazon Firestick is the most popular streaming device available on the
troypoint.com
Apart from that I know of no other way to use adopted storage on fireos without root.
Regards
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This is basically the procedure that I used to format the USB drive, but to move the apps he suggests to use ES file explorer, that was banned due to security concerns, so I was looking for an alternative...
Thanks again for the patience and attention.
London

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