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hi, I did a trade with some here on the XDA for a galaxy nexus. The phone comes with BAMF ROM but I am thinking of returning to the completely stock rom. Since I do not know much information on this phone, I thought I will ask before doing anything stupid.
I am not sure exactly if this is a international or playstore phone (I think it is international) but I do know it is a GSM phone.
Also, it appears to me that the phone is already unlocked (and I think rooted but cannot be sure).
So my question is how exactly should I go through to get the completely stock as I kind of want to try stock JB first. Do I need to relock it and download the image from google (which image as I see there are two version of phone.
I may try different rom in the future so can I just download teh image and flash the rom without relock it? Or I should still lock the phone, flash, unnlock, unroot?
A little bit of background. I am using the phone on T Mobile's network here in the US, so I want to be able to continue using hte phone on the same T MO.
Thanks a lot for all of the helps guys.
Link to the step-by-step, amazing, descriptive guide here
thanks a lot. I follow that thread and I think I have returned the phone to the stock rom.
Quick question, I think my bootloader is still unlocked as when I checked the bootloader, it looks it still says unlocked. Now after I have flashed the stock rom, should I still root it and also install the recovery if I ever plan to play around with the different roms? As of now, when I into recovery, I see the little andrid icon but no selection.
thansk a lot guys.
PUTALE said:
thanks a lot. I follow that thread and I think I have returned the phone to the stock rom.
Quick question, I think my bootloader is still unlocked as when I checked the bootloader, it looks it still says unlocked. Now after I have flashed the stock rom, should I still root it and also install the recovery if I ever plan to play around with the different roms? As of now, when I into recovery, I see the little andrid icon but no selection.
thansk a lot guys.
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If/when you want to root and mess with ROMs, you'll be using a custom recovery like CWM. You don't need to flash it until you choose to do those things.
thanks. Would I need to root again? The phone is already unlocked (as I did not lock it again). So, I would just have to root and then flash the custom recovery then?
BTW, I notice there's a very nice tool on the sticky that does everything. I am curious if I use that tool and let say choose to unlock it again or root again and such, would that be any issue? Ie, if it's already unlocked and you run unlock again, would that relock, etc?
PUTALE said:
thanks. Would I need to root again? The phone is already unlocked (as I did not lock it again). So, I would just have to root and then flash the custom recovery then?
BTW, I notice there's a very nice tool on the sticky that does everything. I am curious if I use that tool and let say choose to unlock it again or root again and such, would that be any issue? Ie, if it's already unlocked and you run unlock again, would that relock, etc?
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You can easily root too if you want to in the future
I think you're talking about the toolkit... Me and others here don't recommend using that... Unlocking/locking the bootloader is easy anyways...
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PUTALE said:
thanks. Would I need to root again? The phone is already unlocked (as I did not lock it again). So, I would just have to root and then flash the custom recovery then?
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Flashing a custom recovery is part of the rooting process.
BTW, I notice there's a very nice tool on the sticky that does everything. I am curious if I use that tool and let say choose to unlock it again or root again and such, would that be any issue? Ie, if it's already unlocked and you run unlock again, would that relock, etc?
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Don't use 1-click toolkits. You know how to do it manually, do it manually.
got it, thanks a lot guys. Will have to read up more on the root and flashing rom. Android is still relativly new to me.
As the title states, I finally got the prompt to do an update for phone, from Orange, but when I set it to install it, it reboots and says failed.
I think it is due to me having CWM on the phone, so it cannot do a clean restart, how do I get passed this, if anyone has a How To for this please help me, also will I be able to save all the apps, messages, contacts and settings on the phone.I have stock Rom on phone.
All and any help much appreciated in advance.
Duh! You need stock recovery. You need to unlock your phone again and flash stock recovery with this command
Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Relock and try again
shadehh said:
Duh! You need stock recovery. You need to unlock your phone again and flash stock recovery with this command
Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Relock and try again
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Hi there, I am already unlocked, so do I have to Lock it again, then flash stock Rom.
Will I have to lose my apps and settings.
Sorry for the noob questions, but this phone is new to me so I don't know the correct way.
Seems a bit over the top to start off with Duhh, just because I don't know, so therefore I need to ask to know, I am a brainy person, but still I would rather ask for the right way rather than guess and brick my £400.00 phone.
Thankyou for your reply, but I still need help on this.
promethieus said:
Hi there, I am already unlocked, so do I have to Lock it again, then flash stock Rom.
Will I have to lose my apps and settings.
Sorry for the noob questions, but this phone is new to me so I don't know the correct way.
Seems a bit over the top to start off with Duhh, just because I don't know, so therefore I need to ask to know, I am a brainy person, but still I would rather ask for the right way rather than guess and brick my £400.00 phone.
Thankyou for your reply, but I still need help on this.
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Sorry. Well you need to have stock rom as well as recovery. Once you have both you have to relock your phone and try to update again
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You do not need to relock to apply ota update. Just have the stock recovery and then try again. There are links to the stock recoveries of different versions in the cwm sticky
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All done Update installed, but I did do a backup of things, but when I got things back up and running again, it did not save my maps and such, I work as a mobile care support person, so the maps were important to me, so I wil have to find a better way to do things.
I also had to try to remember usernames and passwords, I never write any down. but its a shame that an image of phone, os and everything can not be done, so as not to have to put them in again, so that everything works straight off the bat.
Thanks for any and all advice, great forum here and alot of very helpful people.
I am new to the nexus 7.
Can I root without unlocking the broader?
What is the side effect of unlocking the boot loader?
Is there existing method to root without installing customer recovery?
Thanks
macaumen said:
I am new to the nexus 7.
Can I root without unlocking the broader?
What is the side effect of unlocking the boot loader?
Is there existing method to root without installing customer recovery?
Thanks
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There is currently no known way to root without unlocking the bootloader and using a custom recovery.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you more control over the tablet. Specifically to install custom recovery, ROMs, etc. Most of the benefits from an unlocked bootloader are things you do from a custom recovery, not through the bootloader itself. The only real negative 'side effects' are that you lose some of the safety benefits, since you can do dangerous things if you don't know what you are doing, and that it may void your warranty.
So, if want to root, I must unlock bootloader?
Well I still get ota with bootloader unlocked?
macaumen said:
So, if want to root, I must unlock bootloader?
Well I still get ota with bootloader unlocked?
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1. Yes
2. Technically you can, but not recommend; just wait for the rooted stock and flash that.
teh roxxorz said:
1. Yes
2. Technically you can, but not recommend; just wait for the rooted stock and flash that.
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Regarding your #2, there is no reason not to unlock the bootloader to get OTA updates. The only thing that breaks OTA is custom recovery.
phonic said:
Regarding your #2, there is no reason not to unlock the bootloader to get OTA updates. The only thing that breaks OTA is custom recovery.
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Completely correct. I just said not to do it, cause he seems less experienced, and from my experience, they get freaked out afterwards trying to put it back on. So trying to save him a headache, lol.
I recommend staying stock unless you absolutely need a specific root required app.
Right now there isn't a reason for root access except titanium backup.
I do recommend, however, to go ahead and unlock. It will wipe your device including personal data, so might as well get that out of the way now before you risk losing something important.
You can easily flash a custom recovery and root anytime after that, but I would wait until knowledgeable devs figure out the device a little more first.
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player911 said:
I recommend staying stock unless you absolutely need a specific root required app.
Right now there isn't a reason for root access except titanium backup.
I do recommend, however, to go ahead and unlock. It will wipe your device including personal data, so might as well get that out of the way now before you risk losing something important.
You can easily flash a custom recovery and root anytime after that, but I would wait until knowledgeable devs figure out the device a little more first.
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I'm not sure why you would suggest people not to root now. You mentioned a very good reason to do so - Titanium Backup. Not only is it useful for backups in general, but it's also a lifesaver for copying apps and their data from one device, like someone's old N7, to their new N7.
While I would certainly agree that people should wait before flashing custom ROMs, kernels, hacks, etc., nothing is going to change with rooting your N7 today versus a week or month from now. All the pros and cons will still be the same.
phonic said:
I'm not sure why you would suggest people not to root now.
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They guy doesn't need root. He also doesn't understand root. So his chances of softbricking are good, and then, instead of us trying to talk him out of rooting, we now have to talk him through how to fix it.... .. Can we count on you to provide this support since your are so OK with him rooting now?
tweaked said:
They guy doesn't need root. He also doesn't understand root. So his chances of softbricking are good, and then, instead of us trying to talk him out of rooting, we now have to talk him through how to fix it.... .. Can we count on your to provide this support since your are so OK with him rooting now?
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Neither you nor I have any idea what he needs or doesn't. He hasn't said anything other than asking some basic questions about the process. There are numerous guides on here that walk people through rooting step by step. There are also a handful of people who have soft bricked their device and asked for and received help. And yes, I have assisted people with similar issues in the past. Everyone on this board has at one point in their lives screwed something up - that's how we learn.
In any case, my point was that there is no clear reason for him not to do it if he wants to. The device is pretty forgiving unless he kills the bootloader.
Firstly, love the tablet. However, the whites could be better. Would a custom rom help make them whiter? Or is that totally a hardware dependent thing? Unrelated, but is there a way to remove stock lg apps? I thought for sure i read somewhere that you can without rooting, but cant seem to find the option anywhere. Thanks
supremekizzle said:
Firstly, love the tablet. However, the whites could be better. Would a custom rom help make them whiter? Or is that totally a hardware dependent thing? Unrelated, but is there a way to remove stock lg apps? I thought for sure i read somewhere that you can without rooting, but cant seem to find the option anywhere. Thanks
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@YoungBobbie has made a kernel for the 500 device which may take care of the screen problem. His thread is in the development section for downloads and updates. You will need a custom recovery like twrp to use his kernel. There is also another person working on a 500 kernel as well that may be available soon.
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@YoungBobbie has made a kernel for the 500 device which may take care of the screen problem. His thread is in the development section for downloads and updates. You will need a custom recovery like twrp to use his kernel. There is also another person working on a 500 kernel as well that may be available soon.
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Sweet. 'Thanks' coming your way. I've seen the root method for the g pad. And it seems that the method bypasses unlocking the boot loader. Is it the same with flashing a custom recovery and Roms? No boot loader unlocking needed? Don't mean to go ot, but I figured I'd pick your brain instead of starting a new thread. Thanks again
Hello everyone!
I just don't get it. Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between flashing a bumped rom and flashing the same rom un-bumped? I just don't get the whole point of it! Sorry, but coming from a Nexus device (why have I ever changed!!!) I'm new to these things.
So, other questions would be: what's the point of bumping? What if I don't do it and just go about the usual way: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing a custom recovery and then proceed to flash the appropriate and preferred rom, kernel, etc?
Hope somebody will bear with me and try to explain these things to a newcomer
Thanks
astrovale said:
Hello everyone!
I just don't get it. Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between flashing a bumped rom and flashing the same rom un-bumped? I just don't get the whole point of it! Sorry, but coming from a Nexus device (why have I ever changed!!!) I'm new to these things.
So, other questions would be: what's the point of bumping? What if I don't do it and just go about the usual way: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and installing a custom recovery and then proceed to flash the appropriate and preferred rom, kernel, etc?
Hope somebody will bear with me and try to explain these things to a newcomer
Thanks
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Because
1) Bumping is used to trick the bootloader into thinking that the boot.img is authentic and from Official LG Sources
2) Without bumping you could have to constantly run fastboot boot boot.img (an example of this was CM11 when it first started development)
3) Bootloader cant be unlocked at this time so we rely on a bootloader exploit in order to run custom recovery
4) Its all about the authenticity. If the LG bootloader does its security checks and anything fails then the system doesnt boot
Thanks for the very easy tuo understand explanation. I should have thought that the problem was unlocking the bootloader! Guess I'll have to with the Flow and bump my new phone. I wish I asked my Carrier for an HTC M8
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simple answer: bump is the only way to unlock g3 bootloader.
all roms are bumped whether displaying [BUMPED] or not.
rhystagram said:
simple answer: bump is the only way to unlock g3 bootloader.
all roms are bumped whether displaying [BUMPED] or not.
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Ok, so by simple logic, once I have installed, either via bump, flashify or ADB a recovery, I can pretty much flash any rom that is appropriate for my model no, isn't it?
So there is one more question I have: what is the purpose of unlocking the bootloader and then what could be the problems if I don't? If everything I flash for this device (TWRP, roms, kernels, etc) is, by default, bumped, what's the purpose of installing bump at all?
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Ok, so by simple logic, once I have installed, either via bump, flashify or ADB a recovery, I can pretty much flash any rom that is appropriate for my model no, isn't it?
So there is one more question I have: what is the purpose of unlocking the bootloader and then what could be the problems if I don't? If everything I flash for this device (TWRP, roms, kernels, etc) is, by default, bumped, what's the purpose of installing bump at all?
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You're making it so much harder for yourself dude.. There really is only one way to install custom ROMs and that is by Bumping your phone. That's it.
You go here and read the entire topic. Don't miss a single thing.
Then go here and flash the zip for the latest TWRP.
After that you can install any ROM in the OG and Android Development section.
That's all there is to it. You can read in those topics for more information about what they do.
if you dont bump, then you wont have twrp lol.
you cant flash any roms anyway, you'll potentially brick/soft brick your phone.
roms etc are bumped because they have a patch script implanted to run on the phones correctly.
rhystagram said:
if you dont bump, then you wont have twrp lol.
you cant flash any roms anyway, you'll potentially brick/soft brick your phone.
roms etc are bumped because they have a patch script implanted to run on the phones correctly.
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OK. Got it! It took a while, but I give up!
Thanks for the help. Coming from the most easy to play with phones (only Nexus so far, but I hate the N6), it isn't easy to have to deal with more stuff than usually needed and hence more complications than usually had.
I thought that, after rooting I could flash TWRP via flashify or rom toolbox and then I would have TWRP without BUMP, but it must be that I'm missing something, if you say I MUST bump my phone to install TWRP.
Thanks and see you around
How to bump lg g3
DevilFan14 said:
How to bump lg g3
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What exactly do you mean "How to bump"??? Bump and loki are bootloader exploits that allowed us to boot TWRP and all the benefits TWRP offers... On the user side of things you don't "Bump" anything- the Roms, Kernels, and recoveries are "pre-bumped" by the developers and 99.9% of the time they will say whether or not it is "bumped" or "lokied" although loki is really outdated and I doubt you'll encounter it. So in a nutshell we(the user) doesn't "Bump" anything and just make sure to really read before flashing
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