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Hey guys,
Have searched a while, but found no solutions for this, so here goes.
Have stock Galaxy Nexus with ICS 4.0.1, build ITL41F, installed Google Music v4.0.9 (with online sync).
Music is synced with google's online music service (even though I'm in UK, worked-around US-only restriction), and plays nicely when the screen is on. Once I switch the screen off (press power button), one of two things happen:
- if sampling rate of a song is below 48,000 Hz -- everything continues as normal.
- if sampling rate is 48,000Hz and up -- every one/couple of seconds music stutters, and jerks. Feels like I'm listening to dusty ol' record!
The 48kHz part is my theory, compared a few mp3s that stutter and some that don't. This seems to happen irrespective of bps rate and other parameters (albeit haven't checked all).
Few people on the forum with similar symptoms (on other phones) suggested it has something to do with cpu throttle during sleep, and that by forcing it to higher frequencies during sleep this could be solved.
Installed setCPU (which required rooting) and forced phone to 1,200MHz in sleep as a trial, and the songs still were stuttering.
Anyone with a similar experience?
Prime suspect would be google_music.apk which is in beta i believe, and... well, i guess then I'm out. What do you guys think? Any idea what might be causing this?
This is my first android phone, so I'm not sure even how I'd go about submitting a bug, if that's indeed the beta version of music at fault here. Any pointers?
Ta,
Dan
omgrtm said:
Hey guys,
Have searched a while, but found no solutions for this, so here goes.
Have stock Galaxy Nexus with ICS 4.0.1, build ITL41F, installed Google Music v4.0.9 (with online sync).
Music is synced with google's online music service (even though I'm in UK, worked-around US-only restriction), and plays nicely when the screen is on. Once I switch the screen off (press power button), one of two things happen:
- if sampling rate of a song is below 48,000 Hz -- everything continues as normal.
- if sampling rate is 48,000Hz and up -- every one/couple of seconds music stutters, and jerks. Feels like I'm listening to dusty ol' record!
The 48kHz part is my theory, compared a few mp3s that stutter and some that don't. This seems to happen irrespective of bps rate and other parameters (albeit haven't checked all).
Few people on the forum with similar symptoms (on other phones) suggested it has something to do with cpu throttle during sleep, and that by forcing it to higher frequencies during sleep this could be solved.
Installed setCPU (which required rooting) and forced phone to 1,200MHz in sleep as a trial, and the songs still were stuttering.
Anyone with a similar experience?
Prime suspect would be google_music.apk which is in beta i believe, and... well, i guess then I'm out. What do you guys think? Any idea what might be causing this?
This is my first android phone, so I'm not sure even how I'd go about submitting a bug, if that's indeed the beta version of music at fault here. Any pointers?
Ta,
Dan
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That, is weird - because I am facing this with Winamp so I've switched to Google Music to play my music.
Does anyone else face something similar?
Can you do me a favor and play something you know that stutters, and then try it over a bluetooth connection.
I'm curious if this is also related to the static I get when the screen is off and output is analog outputs - digital (bluetooth) works fine.
same here with poweramp... switched to googlemusic... now i have only stutters over the phone speaker..
Same thing happen to me with google music and pandora. Thought it was the connection.
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I get the same using the Music app (have WinAmp but doesn't seem to integrate with the lockscreen so don't use it) as soon as the screen goes off (either timeout or manual) you can hear the music slow down and start to stutter, tap the power button, screen comes on and music goes back to normal.
Have noticed it's not all songs, but have't looked into the differences between those that do and those that don't.
Are these locally stored songs that this is happening on? So far so good here but I have been streaming from the Google Music cloud.. I wonder if the CPU is struggling during the underclocked sleep condition with local files that are high bitrate...
Mine are local files, not tried from another source.
I've used both, streaming from Google cloud, and when songs are available offline in the music app -- still stuttering. Haven't tried any other method though.
As for trying to stream over Bluetooth, haven't got any speakers/earphones that could receive the stream at home. Going to try my luck with a local pcworld, if they let me.
I haven't had any problems with Google Music stuttering while the screen is off, but I have had it crash frequently while listening to music and multitasking. I experienced a similar problem with Rhapsody as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379600
Pyrotechnic said:
I get the same using the Music app (have WinAmp but doesn't seem to integrate with the lockscreen so don't use it) as soon as the screen goes off (either timeout or manual) you can hear the music slow down and start to stutter, tap the power button, screen comes on and music goes back to normal.
Have noticed it's not all songs, but have't looked into the differences between those that do and those that don't.
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totally true! thought my phone was a lemon at first.luckily i didnt return it.
yep having the same exact issue. on speaker its just fine. when i plug in headphones or aux to car stereo and screen goes off it stutters / skips or whatever you want to call it.
Turn the screen on and its fine. However doesnt happen to all music. This was streaming from google music for me.
I'm pretty positive you guys have same exact problem as many other people. So far no one has take my suggestion of playing those same songs that stutter, and play them over bluetooth. I bet you don't get any more stutters. I think it has to do with analog outputs vs digital. To output analog, the phone has to use the DAC (digital to analog converter). When it outputs over bluetooth, there is no conversion, and the music is in digital form and transmitted in digital form
If someone can try this I would appreciate it. And you'd be helping everyone find a common denominator in this problem.
Also be sure to star this bug on google code http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22444#c6
Can someone post an mp3 this is happening to them with? I have a ton of them and I have not seen this problem yet.
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[hfm] said:
Can someone post an mp3 this is happening to them with? I have a ton of them and I have not seen this problem yet.
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Didn't I PM you a link the other day? I thought it was to you. I didn't click the box to save it to my sent box so I can't just look it up :[
Circling back. I recreated the problem with luxferro's 48KHz mp3. Seems whatever happens on this phone to play mp3 with the screen off cannot handle that sample rate. Any 44.1KHz mp3 works fine.
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There was another thread like this. The current workaround is to enable the Equalizer for Google Music. You don't have to actually use it (leave it on default) but this solves the problem.
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I guess with the eq on its forcing the CPU to get involved even when in low power mode. Unfortunately I believe that was causing other issues with crashing. Since I don't use 48KHz mp3 I'll leave it off.
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For poweramp try settings... Audio engine.. Advanced tweets and change the audio buffer size.
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Having the EQ turned on seems to work, just set it to flat and turned the 3d effect down. Guess it'll use less extra battery than using a 'keep awake' app like I was doing.
As the topic says, a few people are getting static when either playing certain music, or any music using google music player w/ the screen off. Soon as the screen is awakened the static stops. For me it only happens through the analog outputs (the speaker, or headphones). Playing through digital outputs (bluetooth) play with no static.
I'm just curious if anyone has noticed this with any music they have played. If so, please star this bug so we get a little more visibility http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22444
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As the topic says, a few people are getting static when either playing certain music, or any music using google music player w/ the screen off. Soon as the screen is awakened the static stops. For me it only happens through the analog outputs (the speaker, or headphones). Playing through digital outputs (bluetooth) play with no static.
I'm just curious if anyone has noticed this with any music they have played. If so, please star this bug so we get a little more visibility http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22444
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There are multiple threads about this.
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There are multiple threads about this.
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It didn't come up in the like threads list (at least for Galaxy Nexus), which is why I made this. Also so people who experience it can star the google bug so they know if it is widespread or not.
Have not had this issue. I have seen reports of maybe apps that set CPU throttle or task killer type apps causing issues like this. Any of those installed?
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Have not had this issue. I have seen reports of maybe apps that set CPU throttle or task killer type apps causing issues like this. Any of those installed?
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Nope, I don't use those kind of apps.
Here's some other threads discussing the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381413
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357230
I though I was the only one. I posted this in another thread. I was only getting the issue from a certain album only. I tried to isolate to apps...governors etc
I guess I wrote it off as a bad album...just never got back round to investigating.
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Wait, are you having the issue when streaming music over network from Google Music or music stored locally?
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Here's some other threads discussing the issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381413
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357230
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Thanks for the links. I posted in those threads with links to the bug that was already entered by someone else (I also posted in it). The odd thing about the bug listings is a google employee commented with no comment, and there are 2 google employees listed in the CC, but no one assigned to it yet.
I get some issues sometimes playing back video with dogcatcher video breaks up. Its also happens on other video players and videos. Hope a fix is in the pipeline.
Not noticed anything on music I use double twist and air sync.
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Wait, are you having the issue when streaming music over network from Google Music or music stored locally?
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the issue is not related to streaming, but I am streaming from google music. Why do I say it's not purely related to streaming, and more to do with the DAC is that it doesn't happen on bluetooth. Only on analog outputs.
It's not a pause, it's static. soon as screen is woken it stops. But works great regardless of screen state w/ bluetooth. I have a feeling all the music playing problems are related in one way or another. why else would google employees be watching that bug, but haven't said or assigned any one to it?
Of course I am just speculating on the google guys
It's a problem with faulty MP3 files. When the phone's active, the MP3s apparently decoded in CPU, while in stand-by, that low-power DSP takes over and doesn't seem to be really fault tolerant.
You can fix these files using Foobar2000, using its Rebuild MP3 Stream option in the context menu.
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It's a problem with faulty MP3 files. When the phone's active, the MP3s apparently decoded in CPU, while in stand-by, that low-power DSP takes over and doesn't seem to be really fault tolerant.
You can fix these files using Foobar2000, using its Rebuild MP3 Stream option in the context menu.
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That's odd. What fault would cause it to decode properly in one context but not another?
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Tom Servo said:
It's a problem with faulty MP3 files. When the phone's active, the MP3s apparently decoded in CPU, while in stand-by, that low-power DSP takes over and doesn't seem to be really fault tolerant.
You can fix these files using Foobar2000, using its Rebuild MP3 Stream option in the context menu.
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Sorry, I have over 11,000 MP3's uploading to google music right now off my NAS. Not about to run them them all through some program to fix them when they work perfectly in every other scenario.
Anyway, I'm just curious where your information came from. You have any links or data to support this?
Luxferro said:
Sorry, I have over 11,000 MP3's uploading to google music right now off my NAS. Not about to run them them all through some program to fix them when they work perfectly in every other scenario.
Anyway, I'm just curious where your information came from. You have any links or data to support this?
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This can't be the problem. I've got about 19000 mp3 on my nas, I've never had any of them exhibit this problem yet.
Try turning off the eq in the music app, I'm wondering if bt bypasses it.
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[hfm] said:
This can't be the problem. I've got about 19000 mp3 on my nas, I've never had any of them exhibit this problem yet.
Try turning off the eq in the music app, I'm wondering if bt bypasses it.
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EQ was off, I've never turned it on.
I'm 99.9% sure the problem is related to analog vs digital outputs. AKA DAC (digital to analog converter). When it uses the DAC you get static when the screen is off. When it's using bluetooth the music is in digital form, and the decoded by the stereo.
Luxferro said:
EQ was off, I've never turned it on.
I'm 99.9% sure the problem is related to analog vs digital outputs. AKA DAC (digital to analog converter). When it uses the DAC you get static when the screen is off. When it's using bluetooth the music is in digital form, and the decoded by the stereo.
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Wonder why I don't have this issue.
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Wonder why I don't have this issue.
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't happen for all music. I know some specific songs in my MP3 collection that it happens with. So far I been playing all music off google music servers. Right now i am making the one album I know of (haven't really played too much stuff yet.. music is still syncing since a few days ago), and make it available offline. then I will see if it still does it. If it does, i'll upload a track somewhere for you to try if you want
edit: yep. it still happens
edit2: [hfm] check your PM's.
Sent you a PM. Apparently its having issues with 48KHz mp3 files. All mine are 44.1KHz at various bitrates and they all do not exhibit this issue.
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Had a problem with this using poweramp but not google music
but I updated poweramp to the latest
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/2122-updated-poweramp-204-build-466/
and it fixed my problem, hope this helps some people
Is anybody experiencing audio distortion with google music and 4.0.4?
It happens a lot (3-4 times during a song) and it sounds the same as a scratched CD (it sorta "hangs" on part of a song for a few seconds).
This is not the same as screen off distortion issue that was reported earlier by a lot of people. This one happens both when I am using the phone and when the screen is off.
Not happening here. Does it only happen when streaming (not stored music)? And is this on WiFi or 3G?
martonikaj said:
Not happening here. Does it only happen when streaming (not stored music)? And is this on WiFi or 3G?
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Both wifi and 3g. I doubt it's network related beacause the app shows that the song is fully buffered. Even if I go to the begining of a cached song it still happens.
i experienced similar behavior couples times with screen on playing long track/radio podcast/mix(stored internally) running 4.0.2(google music version was 4.1.512 - before updated logo) while gnex was connect to car aux, but i haven't be able to replicate it again.
Happens sometimes. Doesn't matter whether its local or streaming, but it seems related to the phone locking up or running out of RAM/CPU usage. Something along those lines because whenever it happens (rarely) the entire phone skips or locks up for a second.
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Smokeey said:
Happens sometimes. Doesn't matter whether its local or streaming, but it seems related to the phone locking up or running out of RAM/CPU usage. Something along those lines because whenever it happens (rarely) the entire phone skips or locks up for a second.
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You might be right. It does appear to happen more often when doing heavy multitasking.
It's kinda unusable for me right now because it's happening so lot.
Already a thread somewhere for this. But I do have the issue as well. As stated it doesn't matter if its streaming or local. Had it happen on cm9 an aokp. Also without heavy multitasking
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Thanks for the confirmation guys. It seems like I'm a lot more affected by this issue than the most of you.
Do you mind sharing your rom/kernel/governer/freq settings? maybe we can find a common ground?
Franco m2, it only happens on the interactive gov
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Franco m2, it only happens on the interactive gov
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That's interesting. I'm on lean interactivex. I'll try switching to on demand and see what happens.
ArmanUV said:
Is anybody experiencing audio distortion with google music and 4.0.4?
It happens a lot (3-4 times during a song) and it sounds the same as a scratched CD (it sorta "hangs" on part of a song for a few seconds).
This is not the same as screen off distortion issue that was reported earlier by a lot of people. This one happens both when I am using the phone and when the screen is off.
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Are your mp3s encoded in the 48khz range? If so it's a bug in the google music player which cause it to 'lag' while it decode the mp3 file, no problems on mp3s in the 44khz range. Dunno about the new ver of google music player haven't try it and don't intend to after i migrate to Poweramp.
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Are your mp3s encoded in the 48khz range? If so it's a bug in the google music player which cause it to 'lag' while it decode the mp3 file, no problems on mp3s in the 44khz range. Dunno about the new ver of google music player haven't try it and don't intend to after i migrate to Poweramp.
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Interesting. I just checked and I have about 20 48khz songs. I'm not sure if they are the ones that get distorted. I'll keep an eye on those tracks. Thanks!
This has bugged me for the longest time. *Hopes for a fix*
Just go for Poweramp. It's worth the money and it can play 48khz mp3s silky smooth. Just remember to set the options to 'Highest Thread Priority' and '750ms' buffers. There's a 14 days full features trial version, download it and have a try.
All of my songs are 44khz.
It hasn't happened on 4.0.4 yet.
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For those that are having issues when the screen goes off, the following worked for me.
When a song is playing, go to the top of the screen to the "..." and select sound effects. Turn on the Equalizer to whatever you want and it should work much better for you.
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Just go for Poweramp. It's worth the money and it can play 48khz mp3s silky smooth. Just remember to set the options to 'Highest Thread Priority' and '750ms' buffers. There's a 14 days full features trial version, download it and have a try.
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we're using google music for its streaming feature, not because we're not capable of using other players
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we're using google music for its streaming feature, not because we're not capable of using other players
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Exactly.
I'll try the sound effects thing as long as it doesn't interfere with DSP manager
Edit: lol it takes me directly to DSPmanager which is already enabled.
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Gilbot said:
Exactly.
I'll try the sound effects thing as long as it doesn't interfere with DSP manager
Edit: lol it takes me directly to DSPmanager which is already enabled.
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please keep us updated about whether using dsp manager works or not.
I only have this when i'm pushing my phone to the limit or when i'm making tracks available offline while listening
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Hi,
I just came from a concert and like every fan, I made a lot of videos through my GNex.
But in one of the best performances, for some weird reason, there is no sound. At first I thought it might be because of the size of the video (second biggest). But there is another one (biggest) with a higher size and it has sound without any issues.
Also all the videos before and after it have sound, just except THAT one. Man am I confused beyond measure.
Does anyone else has this issue? Is there a way to get the sound back on that video? I really want to get it working.
Thanks in advance for your help.
G.
Hmmm... transfer it to your computer, and see if you can play it there? Idk what media player you use for your computer, but I recommend VLC Media Player, plays everything I throw at it, perfectly. Come back with results.
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Hmmm... transfer it to your computer, and see if you can play it there? Idk what media player you use for your computer, but I recommend VLC Media Player, plays everything I throw at it, perfectly. Come back with results.
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Actually I found that out on my PC once I had transferred all the videos. And with more digging, I found another video (from the concert) that didn't have sound. So its two from the pack. But it only happened in last night's videos, never happened before.
And I did use VLC to play 'em.
I've read some threads in Google about people complaining for this issue, but they see it more consistently than I do. If it indeed is a mic issue (faulty mic stops working in GNex) then I'm screwed. Didn't expect that to happen on a Google flagship.
But if you guys do have any suggestions to fix it I would be glad to hear 'em. (or find the sound file hidden somewhere in the crevices of android directory structure)
Also if this issue persists, could someone guide me to a Video recording app which shows you your mic equalizer (or spectrum) so that you know when the mic is recording and when its not. So that for videos where you don't see any movement on the mic spectrum you can restart and start taping again instead of losing that magical moment for all eternity... no thanks to you Google!
How is the Netflix playback on this unit? Does it have 1080p playback like the Nexus 7? Any sync issues with sound? Does it look great?
I'm asking this as I recently bought the Xperia Tablet Z and it has quite possibly the worst Netflix playback I've ever seen, especially for such a high end unit. My Nexus 7 or even my older IPad are miles better. It looks like I will be returning the Sony and perhaps ordering one of these.
Any other Netflix junkies here?
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How is the Netflix playback on this unit? Does it have 1080p playback like the Nexus 7? Any sync issues with sound? Does it look great?
I'm asking this as I recently bought the Xperia Tablet Z and it has quite possibly the worst Netflix playback I've ever seen, especially for such a high end unit. My Nexus 7 or even my older IPad are miles better. It looks like I will be returning the Sony and perhaps ordering one of these.
Any other Netflix junkies here?
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Cant get the sound and video to sync. Varies from right on, to half a sec lag or lead of sound throughout the movie. Very disappointing and annoying at the same time. Posted asking if anyone else had this issue but no replies...
This is true even after todays last OTA update. The video looks great - not sure about the resolution
I've had it intermittently. once when starting the office and then when playing Hatfield and McCoy's. exiting out each movie and restarting fixed it most of the time and other times just made it better but not perfect.the last two test just a few minutes ago played perfectly. I did install the latest ota yesterday so it could be that fixed it.
and for the op I can't say much about 1080p Netflix since I've lowered the stream in my prefs. my daughter plays Netflix all day and the highest throughput we can get out here is 6Mbps on a 150Gb limit. the week I gave my daughter her opacity a few Christmases ago she nearly used up all our bandwidth in 1 week!
1080p local videos are beautiful though!
I'm on the newest update and just tried The Avengers. Video quality is great (looks 1080 to me), sound syncs fine, but I did notice the video flickering a little within the first few minutes. Didn't appear for the rest of the movie.
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I'm on the newest update and just tried The Avengers. Video quality is great (looks 1080 to me), sound syncs fine, but I did notice the video flickering a little within the first few minutes. Didn't appear for the rest of the movie.
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Im also on the newest build, and i just added two movies avengers and transformers in HD to my queue, and played them and they seem to be working flawlessly, the sound is synced perfectly, no lag between movie and soundtrack. Quite pleased working better than the iPad. Lol
Can also verify - newest build. Netflix is working flawlessly. Extremely happy with the playback right now
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Can also verify - newest build. Netflix is working flawlessly. Extremely happy with the playback right now
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Yep. Awesome!!!
The problem for me is Bluetooth
30Seconds said:
How is the Netflix playback on this unit? Does it have 1080p playback like the Nexus 7? Any sync issues with sound? Does it look great?
I'm asking this as I recently bought the Xperia Tablet Z and it has quite possibly the worst Netflix playback I've ever seen, especially for such a high end unit. My Nexus 7 or even my older IPad are miles better. It looks like I will be returning the Sony and perhaps ordering one of these.
Any other Netflix junkies here?
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After playing around with Netflix I realized that when I plug in the headphones (wired), the audio/video playback is flawless i.e. no sync issues. When I connect my Bluetooth stereo headset (LG tone) the I am having terrible audio/video sync problems. Don't know if it's a problem with this specific Bluetooth headset or a problem in general with the Bluetooth of the tablet. I will try other Bluetooth headsets to verify.
Im sorry if im reviving an old post but i need to know this ..
im about to buy this tablet and i love watching netflix.. Does the app Has HD playback ? Pleasee answer is the app working now?
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After playing around with Netflix I realized that when I plug in the headphones (wired), the audio/video playback is flawless i.e. no sync issues. When I connect my Bluetooth stereo headset (LG tone) the I am having terrible audio/video sync problems. Don't know if it's a problem with this specific Bluetooth headset or a problem in general with the Bluetooth of the tablet. I will try other Bluetooth headsets to verify.
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This is a common issue with Bluetooth wireless speakers. I heard them talking about it on a Twit podcast recently. Try connecting via a wire and see if the problem goes away.
TabGuy said:
This is a common issue with Bluetooth wireless speakers. I heard them talking about it on a Twit podcast recently. Try connecting via a wire and see if the problem goes away.
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Every device I have lags on Bluetooth. You can't tell just playing audio (music) but with video the latency is apparent. The note works exactly the same.
Good to see this has good Netflix hope it's 1080p will be getting mines in a few days.