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I don't understand how a phone so powerful can run so poorly. Often times it may take up to 5 seconds to respond to input and is extremely laggy. My friends iPhone 4 is more responsive and it is kind of embarrassing when I am always talking so highly of Android devices, and a 2 year device with incredibly inferior specs is outperforming a brand new high-end phone. There also seems to be an enormous lack of development. I am really starting to regret purchasing this phone.
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I don't understand how a phone so powerful can run so poorly. Often times it may take up to 5 seconds to respond to input and is extremely laggy. My friends iPhone 4 is more responsive and it is kind of embarrassing when I am always talking so highly of Android devices, and a 2 year device with incredibly inferior specs is outperforming a brand new high-end phone. There also seems to be an enormous lack of development. I am really starting to regret purchasing this phone.
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I agree that G3 performance is bad. Its because the system in chip had to draw all the extra pixels of a QHD display. It causes lag and slowness everywhere.
The QHD display needs a more powerful system on chip.
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I agree that G3 performance is bad. Its because the system in chip had to draw all the extra pixels of a QHD display. It causes lag and slowness everywhere.
The QHD display needs a more powerful system on chip.
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Its got nothing to do with the QHD screen. The processor is more than capable of rendering QHD in 2D, even 4K wouldnt be a problem.
The problem is LG have very badly optimised the software. The latest revisions are much much faster, Im using v10J and everything is instant. We went through the same problems with the G2.
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Its got nothing to do with the QHD screen. The processor is more than capable of rendering QHD in 2D, even 4K wouldnt be a problem.
The problem is LG have very badly optimised the software. The latest revisions are much much faster, Im using v10J and everything is instant. We went through the same problems with the G2.
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Have to disagree,I see no improvement with 10j. Its very obvious the 801 is maxed out.
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Have to disagree,I see no improvement with 10j. Its very obvious the 801 is maxed out.
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Just curious because I genuinely want to know. What do you base this on? Have you used some software that monitors the CPU usage and seen it constantly run at 100%?
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Just curious because I genuinely want to know. What do you base this on? Have you used some software that monitors the CPU usage and seen it constantly run at 100%?
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I've seen it happen on old phones of mine that tried to render 1080 but struggled. You get the stutter effect and frame rate dropping because it can't draw it quickly enough. This is a good comparison video too of the more powerful 805 chip Vs the 801 chip
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
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I've seen it happen on old phones of mine that tried to render 1080 but struggled. You get the stutter effect and frame rate dropping because it can't draw it quickly enough. This is a good comparison video too of the more powerful 805 chip Vs the 801 chip
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
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Clearly thats not the case since I have absolutely zero lag. Its a fact that the GPU isnt stressed in 2D by the QHD, it doesnt even throttle past 330mhz. The 801 is rated for 4K, and only then limited by bandwidth rather than raw power.
Its all about the LG software. It will improve.
I have zero lag with my processor downclocked to 1.5ghz and 200 mhz GPU
So all this QHD resolution causing lag is complete BS and trolling.
Sent from my LG Gangster 3
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Have to disagree,I see no improvement with 10j. Its very obvious the 801 is maxed out.
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This chip is not maxed out at all, let's not spread false information please. LG needs to optimize the software for the phone to run correctly. I have enabled 60fps on my phone, and the thing flies now. No lag while scrolling, or while gamingto speak of. The chip has no problems with the resolution.
The thing with Iphone is the way it's set up, Android has more things working in the background eating up ram/etc, that's why optimization is so important. Put an 801 chip into the Iphone, which has MUCH less things running in the background by default, and I guarantee you that the phone will run much faster than with the A7 chip.
Also, rogue apps that are not optimized correctly can also cause serious lag. I recently had the HTC One M8, which ran beautifully, until I downloaded a rogue app that was eating up ram when not in use, and my phone was lagging like crazy.
So it's not really fair to compare android with ios's speed, because all Iphone devices work the same way, and use the same chip. While on Android, there are many factors and apps that can interfere with the OS. Any true Android fan should know how these things work..you can customize the phone to your liking, but you also have to deal with rogue apps and ram issues sometimes.
Have to agree that the 801 struggles with 2k, use a 1080 801 flagship and you'll see the difference. The frame rate on some games is poor in the G3 compared to 1080 801 phones and that's nothing to do with software. The QHD is also power hungry and runs hotter and thermal throttles the CPU more.
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Clearly thats not the case since I have absolutely zero lag. Its a fact that the GPU isnt stressed in 2D by the QHD, it doesnt even throttle past 330mhz. The 801 is rated for 4K, and only then limited by bandwidth rather than raw power.
Its all about the LG software. It will improve.
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Exactly, this chip is more then capable of running the high resolution on the G3. LG should have taken the time to calibrate the software to run better, but the newer updates going around are based off of the info here from XDA users.The default battery saving technique to dynamically adjust the fps/etc only saves a little more batter, but is not worth the tradeoff of a stuttering device. LG should have put in a bigger battery and increased the phone size a little instead of setting up the phone the way it currently is. People are too obsessed with thin phones now-a-days, I prefer a little bulk with MUCH better battery life!
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Also, just to add on to the info that the 801 cannot handle the 2K resolution, which is false..I had the HTC One M8, which oddly stuttered like crazy when playing Asphalt 8, and a few other highly graphical games, but ran smooth as butter when scrolling through apps/etc. However, my G3 has Zero problems now running the same games. So clearly, it's more at play than just the 801. It's more about optimization/etc.
I have pretty much zero lag, the only stutter I see is when pulling down the notification bar, but that happens literally every time I do it. Anybody experiencing the same? Rooted 32gb D855 10g.
Horcza said:
I have pretty much zero lag, the only stutter I see is when pulling down the notification bar, but that happens literally every time I do it. Anybody experiencing the same? Rooted 32gb D855 10g.
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I had that happen to me every now and then, until I switched from Dalvik to ART. Now I have zero lag when using the notification bar. Try that and see if it helps.
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I had that happen to me every now and then, until I switched from Dalvik to ART. Now I have zero lag when using the notification bar. Try that and see if it helps.
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Thanks, but I'm using Xposed framework and as far as I know, it's not ART compatible yet :/ I'll keep it ind mind, though.
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I have enabled 60fps on my phone, and the thing flies now. No lag while scrolling, or while gamingto speak of. The chip has no problems with the resolution.
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@MRCANNADY how can i enable the 60fps? i read about some people saying this but i didnt find anything about how to do this, can you help me?
sorry about my english..brazilian here
To give you an idea of the advances LG will likely make I recently flashed my G2 back to the original ROM. It was terrible, laggy, jittery, horrible camera lag. I then updated to the latest. Smooth, lag free, faster camera, totally reliable. This will happen for the G3 to.
QHD has nothing to do with the issues at all. Its quite clear LG released this phone in almost a panic about heat and battery life, with so many unnecessary measures taken. I disabled quite a lot of them and its smooth and the battery lasts longer than any phone ive had before, even my G2. I wonder if half the screens issues are due to LG undervolting it. Most mods for other devices undervolt the screen to save power, I want to try the opposite.
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Thanks, but I'm using Xposed framework and as far as I know, it's not ART compatible yet :/ I'll keep it ind mind, though.
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Oh yes, it's not compatible as of now. ART really does make a difference in how the phone works though. It's actually the first time that I have seen how beneficial ART is. Question, do you have any widgets in your notification shade/etc? You could also try using the Nova launcher and see if that helps.
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luisfillipe said:
@MRCANNADY how can i enable the 60fps? i read about some people saying this but i didnt find anything about how to do this, can you help me?
sorry about my english..brazilian here
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Hello there
Follow the instructions below. Also, scroll down to Dynamic LCD refresh On/Off, and select disable. Then under Fixed FPS test, select 60FPS, reboot and enjoy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/mod-root-rid-lag-g3-t2819365
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Its got nothing to do with the QHD screen. The processor is more than capable of rendering QHD in 2D, even 4K wouldnt be a problem.
The problem is LG have very badly optimised the software. The latest revisions are much much faster, Im using v10J and everything is instant. We went through the same problems with the G2.
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So what about non d855 users. I have the T mobile variant and it seems we are waiting on Android L for an update as there hasnt been any incremental performance updates. I agree the software is not all it could be.
I use Nova launcher and don't see any lag.
When I was using the stock launcher, I thought that I would see some delay here and there, But I wasn't really sure if it was the phone or me believing what other people were writing.
But I did use the settings in the linked post and it seemed to make the stock launcher much faster. I do not know if it will affect your issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54122500&postcount=1509
What are the main issues of the lg g3 (planning to buy one)..
Does it have the screen issue like the g2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
is there a fix for the overheating and shutdown issues?
how is performance in gaming?
is it possible to reduce the resolution to 1080p to save battery and gain performance (and maybe prevent overheating)?
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What are the main issues of the lg g3 (planning to buy one)..
Does it have the screen issue like the g2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
is there a fix for the overheating and shutdown issues?
how is performance in gaming?
is it possible to reduce the resolution to 1080p to save battery and gain performance (and maybe prevent overheating)?
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Read through The G3 threads you will know the answer to all of these.
You cant reduce resolution.
Gaming is decent
I have had no such overheating since 10H update and no shutdown issues ever.
AndroidInsanity said:
Read through The G3 threads you will know the answer to all of these.
You cant reduce resolution.
Gaming is decent
I have had no such overheating since 10H update and no shutdown issues ever.
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OK the. Do other users also have temperature and shutdown issue fixed with the lg update?
Never had shutdown or overheating no matter what firmware. It's abit laggy tho but way better with art etc.
I guess you guys are not heavy users? cuz I read a lot of users have overheating issues with message prompting them to decrease brightness as it is overtheating and may shutdown (what the heck? ... LG really lost it on that one... Do you really expect to get that kind of message on a flagship pricey phone??). LG seems to be making great phones but each time there's a deal breaker. (screen issues with LG G2 and now overheating/performance issues on the LG G3)... I hope they get it right with the G4.
Did antutu x benchmarks, 3 times in a row with 90% brightness without auto with an ambient temp of 30c. I actually can't remember if my score was lower last time (because of throttling), gonna check it when I receive my phone again.
No message about high temp etc tho.
ok you are probably not a heavy user.
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I guess you guys are not heavy users? cuz I read a lot of users have overheating issues with message prompting them to decrease brightness as it is overtheating and may shutdown (what the heck? ... LG really lost it on that one... Do you really expect to get that kind of message on a flagship pricey phone??). LG seems to be making great phones but each time there's a deal breaker. (screen issues with LG G2 and now overheating/performance issues on the LG G3)... I hope they get it right with the G4.
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I am a very heavy user. No issues. People need to understand a simple factory reset and installing the latest update helps. When i first got it i performed a factory reset and installed thr latest update manually so i never really had time to see if it had issues on previous firmware . although i did run a benchmark when i got it it got really hot. But i did the same after the update it just got a little warm nothing to worry about.
ok. I want to know if other users have these issues solved with the updates like you.
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ok. I want to know if other users have these issues solved with the updates like you.
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Zero issues, apart from the screen sharpening and abysmal battery life when the screen is on
abysmal battery life?
No one is experiencing this lg g2 issue on the G3 right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
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abysmal battery life?
No one is experiencing this lg g2 issue on the G3 right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd5BTKpViUk
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No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCpcEtokiJ0
nice video showing that how lg g3 compares to the cat 6 version and the galaxy s5 prime
Sometimes the phone become hot specially when the phone is charging and I'm texting and browsing 'usually in a dark room so the brightness is 0%'
And yes my phone brightness decreased to 90% automatically and sometimes 80% due to overheating
Lg g2 was faster than g3 and you can see it when you use it for a long time
Overall. Go for it its awesome device
I was wondering if other users can confirm.
The G4 is lagging when you wake it up and pressing the home button, when you are still in Facebook for instance
Also when screen is on and you are switching between large apps. it's lagging.
When you clear the apps....its much more snappier then. the difference is night and day.
Mine lags all the time. It's pretty disappointing. I also have a nexus 6, so much smoother then this phone. Also absolutely hate the lock screen. Can't wait till we get root and can run different Roms.
Yes it is indeed dissapointing... i did a complete reset. But still present.
Do you think it will be solved on a ROM? Dont you think the 808 processor is to "light"
The nexus has an 805. Figure the 808 should run better. Maybe just the LG skin making it lag. My daughters G3 has an 805 also rooted custom ROM. Doesn't lag as much as this phone.
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Also notice touch sensitivity isn't so great. Its constantly missing taps here and there. Very annoying.
I have a nexus 6...almost every phone lags out of the box....but soon enough a very talented Dev will get one and it we be gone....that's what you get when your an early adopter
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The nexus has an 805. Figure the 808 should run better. Maybe just the LG skin making it lag. My daughters G3 has an 805 also rooted custom ROM. Doesn't lag as much as this phone.
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Also notice touch sensitivity isn't so great. Its constantly missing taps here and there. Very annoying.
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Mine misses taps every so often. I'm a little annoyed but I'm just gonna chalk it up to release software. I assume an update will come that will fix it. And once we have root and ROMs I'm sure I'll forget all about it. It's rough coming from a nexus 4 with a custom ROM that ran more perfectly than this one.
LG Tech Support informed me that there gonna be update that will kill all the lollipop issues, as well as fix some camera issues.
nivlac978 said:
Mine misses taps every so often. I'm a little annoyed but I'm just gonna chalk it up to release software. I assume an update will come that will fix it. And once we have root and ROMs I'm sure I'll forget all about it. It's rough coming from a nexus 4 with a custom ROM that ran more perfectly than this one.
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Yes also missing tabs on screen...
Camera issues? What is that? OIS?
I removed the sd card (because it is a Chinese Samsung card, think a clone) and it looks it's a bit better now... Still early concussion though.
Having owed a LG Optimus G, G2 and G3 I'm not surprised the G4 lags.
I don't get any stuttering or lag, but I use nova launcher. I only spent a few minutes with stock launcher. Stock launcher is slow and ugly.
Sent from my LG-H811
Now you say.... I use the Blinkfeed launcher and everything is much smoother now.
Even with sd card.
Mine is lag during heavy gaming only. Overal performance is smooth.
EricTCC91 said:
Mine is lag during heavy gaming only. Overal performance is smooth.
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Have you tried turning off Games Optimizer under Battery and Power settings?
May make a difference, but not sure as I do not do a lot of gaming.
I've noticed some "missed taps" while playing Pinball Arcade. Balls just roll down the left flipper because it didn't pick up a tap. Interesting that some of you are having this problem too. Do you think this is serious enough to return it? I know the knock code has its own quirks, sometimes it works and sometimes you're a hair too slow.
I have also noticed the lag when going to the home screen from Facebook. Not a major issue, but a little disappointing.
I haven't really experienced any lag but I have experienced web pages taking forever to render and also like when I open speed test app it takes forever to find a server on my Home wifi.. Anyone notice this
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shigga said:
The nexus has an 805. Figure the 808 should run better. Maybe just the LG skin making it lag. My daughters G3 has an 805 also rooted custom ROM. Doesn't lag as much as this phone.
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Also notice touch sensitivity isn't so great. Its constantly missing taps here and there. Very annoying.
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The 805 has a more powerful GPU than the 808. The fact the 808 is a "higher number" than "805" doesn't really mean much, even in Antutu the 805 scores higher than the 808.. That's why there is lag or framerate issues in games on the G4. Very strange decision by LG to go with the 808.
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The 805 has a more powerful GPU than the 808. The fact the 808 is a "higher number" than "805" doesn't really mean much, even in Antutu the 805 scores higher than the 808.. That's why there is lag or framerate issues in games on the G4. Very strange decision by LG to go with the 808.
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Hoping some new software will smooth things out. Hate to say it but even my nexus 7 2013 has smoother performance navigating ui. I don't play games so I have no idea what it does in that area.
shigga said:
Hoping some new software will smooth things out. Hate to say it but even my nexus 7 2013 has smoother performance navigating ui. I don't play games so I have no idea what it does in that area.
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The G3 had terrible performance but it was generally underpowered for the QHD display. Here's hoping it is software optimization but you have to look at the 808 also.
I thought there is no any kind of lagg in the G4... And where does it exactly occurs?
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The 805 has a more powerful GPU than the 808. The fact the 808 is a "higher number" than "805" doesn't really mean much, even in Antutu the 805 scores higher than the 808.. That's why there is lag or framerate issues in games on the G4. Very strange decision by LG to go with the 808.
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I guess they wanted the 64Bit checkmark.
I dont see any other reason. Same goes for HTC.
I dont know why Qualcomm tought it was a good idea to release the 808 and the 810 when they compare it to there older 805. That was a really good chip. Its not 64 Bit but performance is on par with the 808 and 810 because they have thermal issues.
The 808 is not bad. Its fast enough. But if there was a option i would take the 805 in a heartbeart. Hell i would even pick the 801 over the 808 or 810.
Lets hope the 820 with the new architecture will be a lot better. (but that should not be to hard)
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
NuclearBastard said:
Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
Thanks, seems to help a bit, but it's right on the fine line between actually helping and just a placebo.
I mean, some really visually simple games (Smash Hit) shouldn't run with such low fps, especially not when considering the Nexus 5 ran it perfect.
What about the rest of the UI?
I suspect that some of the problems I'm having with SwiftKey are software related (might not be optimized for G4 yet?), since I'm noticing some other unrelated performance bugs in it; emailed that to them.
I got H815L myself and it's pretty good.
What's your Antutu score?
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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There's an option somewhere to lower graphics in games to save battery...its on by default...at least on h811 it is...also in dev options changing all animations to .5 or off fixes any laggy experience
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Jonathan-H said:
Personal experience with Swiftkey is it isn't optimised very well at all and only runs properly with a handfull of phones if at all. I gave up on it a long time ago.
As for UI performance, I haven't noticed any lag yet. Games run great too.
I would point the finger at the Apps you're using and make sure you've updated the software on the phone to the latest version.
The nexus phones feel less laggy because the transition animations are so slooooow just like on iphones, and it's just there to hide any lag as it takes so long to open and close the apps.
You'll get used to G4 I have no doubt
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Hey fellas!
Just got a new G4 to replace my Nexus 5, and I'm encountering some heavily disappointing performance issues like:
poor 3D performance - games like Boom Beach and Smash Hit run just... bad. mediocre/low fps gaming, where my Nexus 5 did perfectly fine!
2D performance (UI) - sometimes laggy UI transitions, typing really quick with SwiftKey keyboard is impossible, it's like the phone can't keep up with what I'm clicking fast, feels majorly laggy.
Anything I'm missing? and low performance/battery saving settings I'm missing? what's happening... oO
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Not missing anything. Is called lg g4.
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oh thanks bro.
most helpful reply of the week.
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I got 49081 on Antutu, and I'm running v10H and all my apps are updated.
I do suspect it's the keyboard app itself messing around with me, because I see several more bugs except for the weird latency.
And just for comparison, the game Smash Hit (on HIGH set on graphics) runs choppy with a Nexus 5 running it perfectly.
I know and understand Android, but why do I need to get a new $500+ phone with new hardware only to find out my 2 years older phone is more "optimized"?
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu, most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Man idk...maybe some bloat or config issue but i installed smash hit(never played til you mentioned it so thanks for giving me a new addiction)and it ran smooth even on high graphics...my h811 has same hardware and my antutu was much higher...my g4 has been my favorite device since my g2...the g3 was a pile and i hated it...you will have to check out whats clogging up your processing...something isn't right...if all else fails try backing up data and factory reset...many have reported this to solve many issues good luck!
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Download a wakelock detector or something to see whats stayin active that isn't necessary...also are you rooted...if not you may want to do that...it will allow you to freeze and remove unnecessary and memory hogging apps and will give you a boost...i got rid of a lot of those day 1 and have had a great experience with my g4...we shouldn't have to do this to get the best out of this device but its the way android has gone...also with root you can try ctt mod and other performance boosters to really get the best experience...you can also get better battery life without the extra junk processes running in the back...there are many threads to teach you what can be done with the g4
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Yeah, I pretty much know most of the basics of all the advanced tweaking, but since I have H815L the bootloader is locked, so rooting it is a bit pain in the ass.
Someday next week I'll just factory reset it and check again.
Thanks bud!
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
NuclearBastard said:
well ok.
Just did a factory reset and... Nothing.
So friggin disappointing, im completely clueless now.
right when the phone started up (completely blank after reset), downloaded and installed Boom Beach and Smash Hit, and the performance was still bad. Im so annoyed.
What the hell should i do? Why is my BRAND NEW phone is having poor 3D performance?
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Root it and bump up lower clock speed on big/little cores with kernel audiutor...it will reduce lag and actually save battery as small processes cause it to jump around a lot on factory settings...short of doing this idk...
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Weird that you got 50k+ on antutu,
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It means his device is running cooler than yours. He mentioned some tweaks to keep heat down.
There is also the CTT mod (in development)but it requires root.
most of the reviews I Google's were about 41k+.
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Actually i just checked 3 different reviews and the avg antutue score for the G4 is 49k. if you run antutu back to back 3-4 times it will drop to 44k. If it wont rise above 45k then it indicates a heating device with throttling.
How can I check what's choking the device?
I have nothing special installed; opened the box, turned the phone on, updated the latest OTA and then all my apps - games and some other stuff but nothing heavy that I didn't have on my N5...
Maybe I'll try to factory reset the phone some day next week and see the results.
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How is your battery life in general sot/run time ?
can you try playing your games in a low light environment. So your brightness will be much lower. Do you notice any difference ?
I've had the phone for a total of about 4 days now, SOT seems about 3-4 hours, better than my N5 so I'm happy so far.
Tried gaming with low light / cold environments, doesn't seem to change anything.
Not sure about the throttling, due to the fact that the device is actually pretty cold... not sensing any extreme heat (my N5 was way hotter).
After that factory reset I get about 48k on Antutu, and I actually tried two different "heavy" games (NOVA3 and Asphalt 8) and they run OK...
I genuinely have no idea what's the problem, so instead of rooting and tweaking stuff that seem to not have to be tweaked for others, I'll just wait till I get back home and compare the gaming performance with friends' devices.
If something goes wrong - warranty it is.
Man, I feel you! Been dealing with laggy UI and cursing my choice of purchase since day one. Anyways..
For games - have you disabled 'Game Optimzer' option from 'Battery & Power Saving'?
For laggy UI - Swiftkey is laggy as ****. So try Fleksy, it's a LOT smoother, I barely notice any lag (although it does hiccup once in a while...). As for general performance, you have to accept that some animations will be choppy - that's just how LG UI works, there is no work around. For me the phone was chugging a lot before I uninstalled Inbox by Gmail, after that the phone regained it's speed and it's pretty damn smooth now. It still stutters here and there but ...what to do. Also try delobating it and removing any unnecessary apps and services (you don't need to root for this).
OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
I seriously can't figure out what's the problem.
the 2d phone UI seems almost perfect, and the benchmark score seems OK.
What the hell could be wrong?
Is there any more testing (games/benchmarks/logs) I could do to try and figure this out?
It's going to take me another week till I go back to my country to check with a different H815L. Asked a friend with the US model, she claims Smash Hit works flawlessly fluid. can't understand that.
I find it funny, the fact that I might ask for an under-under-warrenty device replacement just because couple of games run bad.
Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Dude i has the g4 H815L and it is works fine but maybe it becouse the root.
I has the device for few months with stock version of lg and my g4 works very good and when i play games like Goat Simulator he got hot if not very hot but if your device don't get hot becouse of games so for sure you won't get high preformance.
Plus my bettery works fine and my phone can work perfectly and smothly with smart watch and survive one day with out any problames.
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OK so some updates.
Rooted the phone, debloated the s**t out of it, even managed to got to 5h 2m screen-on time with that lol.
Tried to tweak lots of other things as wellwell, got me some great bootloops in the process. eventually I practically totally wiped the system and flashed a 100% clean one.
Smash hit (on High setting in graphics) and Boom Beach still work a bit choppy.
NOVA3 seems to work ok.
AnTuTu is about 50.5k.
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Every CPU (SoC) is unique. Remember, even two identical CPUs can deliver different benchmark results, thus have different real world performance. Unless there's a software issue you haven't found out about yet, it's also likely that you just got a bad one.
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Hoping the XDA gods would help me in some way, before heading the noob warranty-for-nothing route.
Thanks!
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Don't even hesitate. You paid for it hard earned money under the condition that it works as stated and advertised by LG. Now, as you told us, it does not. See my point?
Guys I need help with my G4, situation with gaming is kinda unbelievable... I'm running android 6.0, and most games can't hit over 20fps mark, practically gaming it's more of frustration than fun
Examples:
Dragons rise of berk - 15-16 fps
Real Racing 3 - 20-21 fps
Jurasic World - 18-19fps
FF lagacy - 25-26fps
And things gets more interesting, I have also G2 that makes on average 30% better fps on the same games. Did an Antutu test, G4 is way better than the same G2, huge difference in 3d test.
Checked the net for the issue and found on this site folks that have it but hadn't have in with the Lollipop before that. Please give me some pointers for a future actions, is it wise to try go back to 5.1 or maybe wait for the next update? Or anything at all, I'm open to all ideas as long as they don't cost me my warranty (these LGs are not the most durable devices out there...).
Thanks!
I swear its d3vice to d3vice. I use ps1 and other emulators all the time ive never really watched the frame rates but never noticed lag. I got a gear vr ive been doin a bunch of games on it and it runs killer.
But im on lolipop heavly debloated bare core system.
Stock rom is riddled with throttling while gaming, I did notice games like hearthstone and minecraft getting unplayable after 20 minutes or so, fix is the way of going custom kernel and disabling stock thermal settings, soc on our phone doesn't heat up as much as 810 anyways (also 1440p much more demanding than 1080p take that in to consideration as well)
Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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wich kernel you use on G2? i wish there was a dorimanx for G4..
3.10.84 and the soft is V20d-EUR-XX. I'm definitely not a gamer, but can't accept having a G4 that performs like a 80$ lenovo neither... Honestly I was thinking of switching to Samsung, but 20min of reading and I was left with the feeling that this action would just gain me changing one problem with another ones. At lest here I have only that FPS issue...and besides it I like the phone and would strongly prefer not to switch with another brand.
The most irritating thing is that the phone has no signs of hardware problems. On the Gamebench site there's plenty of test done with the stock 5.1 rom - https://www.gamebench.net/en/node/117
As you can see the same games do on average 30fps, witch is as it should be.
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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have you tried disabling the LOGD.?
vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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The g3 was a good one
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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yes and no..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/finally-disable-logd-process-root-stock-t3343553
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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There is a setting that you can toggle in Settings > Battery & power saving, and then turn off Game optimizer. Don't know if it would help, but it's worth a shot.
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Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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I've mentioned it a few times in previous posts, I think the gaming performance on this device is just simply horrendous.
vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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Like i said i play ps1 and loads of games on mine. never notice any lag. I just modded my gear vr to work on my g4 and all the vr apps and games run surprisingly very well. Ive never been one to do benchmarks. Look and feel is more important than numbers to me. Ive seen phones get low benchmarks and game really well.
Im on lolipop by the way
Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Try Sim City BuildIt out on your phone and follow the tutorial right through to Dans City and see how that runs, its pretty poor on mine.
Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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When I play 3d scenes in Antutu they are 1080p, and G4 plays them a LOT smother than G2. So I guess that might solve the problem, 2k is absolutely unnecessary for gaming purposes on this small screen.
Also I'm not sure that the acctual intensity of the game is the main reason, thing looks more like game to game or optimizing issues.