Marshmallow app backup does not kick in for 3rd party apps - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I am facing a strange issue.
My Nexus 5X does not backup apps, except those from Google. I know a little number of apps does use this system, but comparing my N5X with another one from a friend, there are a lot more.
This is my device
This is my friend's device
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I have installed the following, but none is backing up.
- Solid Explorer
- OpenVPN for Android
- Keepass2Android
Obviously 24hrs lasted, I have installed these apps since ages.
Do you have any suggestions?

nevermind found it. yeah mine looks OK too, backing up a lot of apps. have you check that your account is selected for backup?

2x4 said:
nevermind found it. yeah mine looks OK too, backing up a lot of apps. have you check that your account is selected for backup?
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Hi, it finally worked.
I disabled and re-enabled the backup feature, backups got deleted and left the phone charging overnight. This morning loads of apps were backed up! I'm actually surprised how in a couple of months developers are finally targeting SDK 23 and enabling backups.

olivercervera said:
Hi, it finally worked.
I disabled and re-enabled the backup feature, backups got deleted and left the phone charging overnight. This morning loads of apps were backed up! I'm actually surprised how in a couple of months developers are finally targeting SDK 23 and enabling backups.
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that's an interesting fix. Glad to hear it works now!
I'm pretty surprised myself. Some apps don't back up as well as i'd like though, like tasker will back up my profiles but wont restore them....

2x4 said:
that's an interesting fix. Glad to hear it works now!
I'm pretty surprised myself. Some apps don't back up as well as i'd like though, like tasker will back up my profiles but wont restore them....
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To know if an app is capable of backup, get the .apk, decompile it and read through the manfiest file
Target SDK must be 23
You may or not find strings about backup.
If nothing is mentioned, backup is enabled by default for these apps
You may see that the dev has blocked the backup. This is the case of Pushbullet, Whatsapp, Adobe Reader and others. It's android:allowBackup="false"
If you see android:allowBackup="true" the dev is just "forcing" the backup
Some apps rely on a different type of backup, like Nova Launcher, which has a "Backup Agent". These apps won't appear in the backup list. Nova Launcher has a backup feature to local and cloud but it's manual, so I don't know if it's really working or not. In theory this method is for older versions of Android.
There is something I don't like about this feature. Apparently the job will backup only apps that were installed 24hrs earlier, and updates are counted as new installation. So if this afternoon you get an app updated, tonight it won't be backed up. I think this is a bit silly. There should also be a way to force backups like on iOS - if I need to wipe my device how am I supposed to get backups updated? (I have root, but it's a general question).
This is the list of apps which backed up. Yesterday I have analyzed most of them, so I was expecting to get a decent list.
AdAway
CheckR
DevCheck
Evernote
Ex Kernel Manager
GPS Status
Iride UI
Jetpack Yoyride
Keepass2Android (Beta version)
Metal for Facebook
MX Plaer
My Budget Book
MyAndroid Tools
Naptime
OfficeSuite
OpenVPN
Phonograph
Simple System Monitor
Snapseed
Solid Explorer
Syncronize Ultimate
Temple Run 2
Toggle Network Type 5
Transdrone
Walloid

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which apps can i safely disable/remove ?

Hey there, I use stock 4.2 with franco kernel and wonder which pre-installed apps I can safely disable/remove (with titanium pro) ?
For example I dont need google talk / google+ /chrome .. but will it cause problems if i disable/remove them ?
Is there some list of which apps are really needed ?
it's as needed as much as you needed
khanh1289 said:
it's as needed as much as you needed
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So I can safely remove:
Currents
Google+
Chrome
E-Mail (I use K9 Mail)
Gmail (I use K9 Mail)
Google Play Music
Google Play-Services
Calender (I use jorte)
MusicFX (whatever that is anyway)
News & Weather
Quickoffice (I use Kingsoft.. not even sure why its on my phone as I never installed QuickOffice)
Caluclator
Tags
Talk
TalkBack
Anything else ?
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So I can safely remove:
Currents
Google+
Chrome
E-Mail (I use K9 Mail)
Gmail (I use K9 Mail)
Google Play Music
Google Play-Services
Calender (I use jorte)
MusicFX (whatever that is anyway)
News & Weather
Quickoffice (I use Kingsoft.. not even sure why its on my phone as I never installed QuickOffice)
Caluclator
Tags
Talk
TalkBack
Anything else ?
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These are the ones I disabled and had no problems, pretty sure most of the apps won't really do anything if you disable/delete them. I would try them out disabled first then if everything is fine then delete them.
Alright I will disable them for a while.. removing them would give me ~150mb
zakazak said:
Alright I will disable them for a while.. removing them would give me ~150mb
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You can just unistall apps like gmail, currents, chrome, etc. Just do that.
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UZ7 said:
These are the ones I disabled and had no problems, pretty sure most of the apps won't really do anything if you disable/delete them. I would try them out disabled first then if everything is fine then delete them.
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Just uninstall all of these. They're just apps in the play store.
zakazak said:
So I can safely remove:
Quickoffice (I use Kingsoft.. not even sure why its on my phone as I never installed QuickOffice)
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Quickoffice is part of 4.2 stock - it's a MS Office viewer - you shouldn't see any negative results when you remove/disable it if you're using Kingsoft.
If you have any other specific QO questions, let me know!
Hi,
Just my two cent, dont delete or freeze FusedLocation (it's related to GPS and network) otherwise your phone will stuck on the bootanimation with a vibrating loop.
Strange that just a system app related to GPS and network do that but it's the case, tested twice (one with deleting the app and another one by freezing the app with Titanium) and I ended to the same result.
My question is this; I have frozen several of the above mentioned.. When we get the OTA updates will that impact the update at all?
When I was with draconian Verizon, the OTA would not occur unless all stock apps were visible/available.
Also, when I tried to uninstall the Google apps from the play store, it merely uninstalled the *updates*, not the app itself. I use TB to freeze or uninstall.
Rooted Nexus 4
I use titanium backup and uninstall a lot of apps.. Live wallpaper talkback pico tts magazines, Books Google music, Google chrome using AOSP browser, weather and news, Google Wallet doesn't work anyways!! Movie editor. There a quite too much to remember.. But No problems at all:good: Most of the ROMS actually remove some stuff...
Btw backup your apps you wanna uninstall.Uninstall it if your phone gives you problem then you know don't remove it!!

[Q] Samsung Note 8 AT&T - Trouble Rooting

I am having some trouble rooting my Note 8.0, using the following thread's directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
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The best Note 8.0 rooter
Saferoot.zip Look for it in the forums. It is simple and does not require Odin. Just connect to USB and run the batch file.
gooberdude said:
Saferoot.zip Look for it in the forums. It is simple and does not require Odin. Just connect to USB and run the batch file.
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Just did it.
Can I put a custom ROM on this thing now? I'd really like to try PAC ROM. I definitely want 4.4.2 on it.
ITworksLLC said:
Just did it.
Can I put a custom ROM on this thing now? I'd really like to try PAC ROM. I definitely want 4.4.2 on it.
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Nope! A no go with custom ROMs.
ATT Note 8.0 has locked boot loader and will brick if you install an unsigned ROM.
This is very disappointing... So I'm stuck?
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ITworksLLC said:
This is very disappointing... So I'm stuck?
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IMO the samsung ROM is good. Just a wee behind. One thing you have on your side is rooting.
Once rooted, you can use framework mods to enhance the features.
I tested Civato's ROM and Kernel. Found it good but lacks supporting 64GB SD cards with Exfat.
Had way too many issues with Fat32 to call it worth while. Speed was good, but I realized after letting myself get use to the OEM ROM, there was not much difference.
If anything I recommend getting Solid Explorer Pro and Titanium Backup Pro..., they are worth their price on Google.
I removed all the apps that I can get on Google Play most of them are Google apps, but there is a few that you can obtain.
Once I removed all the Google apps... kept play store, I installed what I wanted. Don't bother with Google Music Player, it will run even when you reboot.
I kept Samsung Keyboard, and found it better than SwiftKey and Swipe Keyboard. As it has quite a bit of features you would not expect in a stock keyboard.
Setup my voice and language to be Ivona UK Welsh English, it is the best sounding of the English language. Google is setup to be the voice recognition.
My Samsung voice will be Ivona, and any Google voice in Google Now will be Google.
I setup a number of things with the framework mods, so it will take some time booting to completely load HD Widgets, if you choose to go that route.
Once ATT releases 4.4.3 in April, I may hold off until Xposed Framework gets a major overhall for 4.4.x.
I recommend the non framework version of Ghost Hide Root, with plugin. There is a framework version, but it does not work well with Samsung ROM.
Startup manager also is a good framework app, but there is a paid app that goes even further... I kept the Xposed app because it was smaller.
Don't bother with Power / battery apps... they tend to hog memory, and don't do much better than having your tablet do power saving mode when browsing or reading.
I keep WIFI and Power save mode on all the time. Yet to find a real issue with speed. Able to watch streamed movies and Miracast without hicups.
Oh by the way... I dropped Greenify as well.. seems to take up a lot of memory. I just stop some apps that allow not to be started during boot. Be careful, as some are part of the OS. I stopped All email apps, this way when I am wanting email I just open them. Also you can manually sync if you chose to. Though it can be annoying if you open mail for the first part of the day and find 40 emails waiting. On vibrate or notification sound it can be a bit annoying.

SwipePad - edge launcher!

Just a quick shout-out for this app. I was looking for something to replace the usefulness of the Note Edge application shortcuts, and came across SwipePad. It's pretty darn good for swiping in from an edge on the S6 Edge and launching apps from anywhere. I guess this would work on any phone, but feels so natural swiping over the curve to get this. Loving it!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.conduction.swipepad.android&hl=en
PS I'm not affiliated to the app, in case you're thinking that..
Thanks bud
Thanks mate, works really well, can't figure out how to take a screenshots of the launcher though
rahularora1 said:
Thanks mate, works really well, can't figure out how to take a screenshots of the launcher though
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Power + Home button.
Brilliant that works!
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Been using this for YEARS. One of my first installs and must haves on every single new phone. There is also a selection of themes on the market for it.
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Brilliant that works! View attachment 3258762
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How did you get the single row like that?
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Hi mate select the other icons that come up when creating the pad and make them hidden
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Hi mate select the other icons that come up when creating the pad and make them hidden
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Thanks. Got it setup. Still can not get rid of the notification that states . "Running, select to configure" I have selected it many times.
veener79 said:
Thanks. Got it setup. Still can not get rid of the notification that states . "Running, select to configure" I have selected it many times.
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It's the very bottom option under "look and feel" when you select the notification. If you turn off the notification completely, swipe pad will fall out of memory and you'll have to manually start it sometimes. I just choose hide. Never leaves memory and i don't have the ugly icon
Thanks, nice!
i love this one. i put all my frequent contacts in it. marvelous
Hello
I use this app since Years and bought some addons. I couldn't imagine to live without. Now, this app disappeared from the store. Is it end of life? My app is running fine. I just wonder what is the reason for.
XtraWater said:
Hello
I use this app since Years and bought some addons. I couldn't imagine to live without. Now, this app disappeared from the store. Is it end of life? My app is running fine. I just wonder what is the reason for.
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Hello XtraWater,
I have used this app since my SGS2. Sadly, I wiped my phone and as you said, Swipepad cannot be found in the play store anymore. I downloaded an APK from a third party site, which works (I'm rooted). But I am unsure how to get the addons to work after installing them from the third party site :-/
I purchased the morespaces add-on previously and that is not in Google Play anymore as well.
Mersine said:
Hello XtraWater,
I have used this app since my SGS2. Sadly, I wiped my phone and as you said, Swipepad cannot be found in the play store anymore. I downloaded an APK from a third party site, which works (I'm rooted). But I am unsure how to get the addons to work after installing them from the third party site :-/
I purchased the morespaces add-on previously and that is not in Google Play anymore as well.
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Hello
Swipepad started to behave weird. It needed an update... So I gave up. I guess I still have the backup from the more space add-on. I made the backup with titanium backup.
However, in the meanwhile I switched to xposed edge. The app is nice. Plenty of features. The responsiveness although is not perfect. There is sometimes a delay of a second or two. I don't know if there is a way to prioritize the app. I am on Resurrection remix.
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Hello
Swipepad started to behave weird. It needed an update... So I gave up. I guess I still have the backup from the more space add-on. I made the backup with titanium backup.
However, in the meanwhile I switched to xposed edge. The app is nice. Plenty of features. The responsiveness although is not perfect. There is sometimes a delay of a second or two. I don't know if there is a way to prioritize the app. I am on Resurrection remix.
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Thanks, I'll try out edge since I have Xposed as well. I was looking for Swipepad alternatives today actually, but the results are all dated since this app is so old.
In the meantime, I'm attempting to make the Swipepad add-ons system apps based on a suggestion from this thread. My TI backup was wiped along with the rest of my phone. I may have a copy on my desktop when I get home. If not, can you send me a TI copy of yours?
Sure, let me know when you need the backup.
That edge app is actually very easy to use. Nevertheless, it took a while till I figured it out. At the beginning it's a bit counterintuitive.

Battery discussion

On 4.4.4 I used to be able to get 5-5:30 ost but since updating it to lollipop and beyond I nearly get 4-4:30 I want to know if anybody els has been getting this issue or how to fix it and yes all the bells and whistles are turned off
Are you using freeza Beastmode kernel? Are you on the OG5 modem? These have been my most recent bumps in battery capacity; the biggest since KitKat actually.
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Heavy usage today but ready to plugin and charge for tomorrow. The usage for apps shown is a bit higher than usual but the overall stats and SOT are darn good. Running OB7/OB7 bootloader/ customized with Xposed/OG5 modem and Beastmode kernel. Maybe the improved battery comes from the OG5 stuff.
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How do you do this??? I disabled basic everything and have my screen at half and on WiFi most of the time and nearly get 4 hours
thebrohluis said:
How do you do this??? I disabled basic everything and have my screen at half and on WiFi most of the time and nearly get 4 hours
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Debloated ROM, freeze or delete apps that waste away at the battery, use auto brightness. Look for apps that wake excessively. Have you tried L Speed Mod? It will make Google Services behave. I use that with default settings, dump third party apps' cache and browser cache (including Google Play and Google Play Services) every 12 hours on a schedule and use an app by chain fire called recently to keep apps from running so much unneeded. Watch for rogue or faulty apps in the Xposed error log. Source close browser and other apps that like to keep running with back to kill app and use an ad blocker.
But really I think it has more to do with being indoors mostly on Wi-Fi and using Wi-Fi calling that gets those results. I have to credit the 5.1.1 kernel and modem too. OB7 wasn't always this good.
Half screen brightness would most likely to bright for me. What's wrong with auto brightness? It may save you some battery.
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I used to do a lot of that disable things I didn't need like s voice and bloat but for some reaons I didn't reason calls or text and I credit that to all the mods I did with the phone so I haven't really moded in a while but since then I get bad battery life, and no I used to use auto brightness but then afew days ago I realized whats the point of not enjoying your phone how you want to. But dam you sure do a lot, none of that has any negative impacts>?
Not really. I go with what works. Some users just aren't happy with some things and change this and that until more content with it.
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i did everything you said , got recently and also l speed rom, put the freza kernel. but my question is how do you put a scheduler? and how do you find out which apps run in the back round? if you uninstall google apps and apps that are form Samsung would that effect in anyway the phone?
I use an older application I purchased a while on an older phone that needed more memory expansion for app data. Link2SD pro did that plus had the scheduler so I still use it for that rather than buying another task manager. Couldn't tell which to use or if there are better or free ones.
The L Speed Mod can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
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and what specific things did you freeze or uninstalled ? cause I did everything you said and I still got 4 hours ost
Frozen
Uninstalled
Accuweather
FlipboardBriefing FlipboardFBAppManager
FBMessenger_stub
FBPagesManager_stub
BInstagram_stub
Facebook
PlusOne
Books
Hangouts
PlayGames
talkback
WhatsApp
ItsOn
YahooLiveWeather
SmartRemote
WeatherDaemon
SprintVoicemail
KnoxAttestationAgent
KnoxSetupWizardClient
Gmail2
Bridge
Blurb
AutomationTest_FB
ID
KLMSAgent
LocationWidget
Lookout
Zone
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Question Phone reset...should I?

Helloe
Since I bought the phone, the reminder subfunction of the Google calendar app doesn't work. I get reminded of events but not of reminders that I add. Other users jave reported it as well, but we haven't found a solution.
OnePlus support recommended this
"Please try reset options this will not erase data. If you only want to clear app data and restore your device to factory settings without losing the data stored in the internal storage, choose the Reset all settings option in the Reset phone menu instead of the Erase all data option."
With a perfectly working daily driver phone that's rooted and otherwise working fine, should I follow their suggestion?
Does root get wiped? Will I have to reinstall my apps?
Thanks
Try clearing just that apps data. Maybe use another calendar app if that doesn't work.
Google apps are a pain. Constant firmware and software upgrades/updates just mean more of your time spent trying to learn and troubleshoot them. Gookill is a mess.
blackhawk said:
Try clearing just that apps data. Maybe use another calendar app if that doesn't work.
Google apps are a pain. Constant firmware and software upgrades/updates just mean more of your time spent trying to learn and troubleshoot them. Gookill is a mess.
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Yup, did that, but I'll do it again. The app worked perfectly on my op7pro prior to this phone.
nabril15 said:
Yup, did that, but I'll do it again. The app worked perfectly on my op7pro prior to this phone.
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If you can uninstall then reinstall it try that. Check it's permissions and if it's able to run in the background. A Google search may give you more solutions; doesn't have to be that model or even brand as the same issues tend to happen on many different Androids.
If that's the only problem I would find another app to replace it. Not worth screwing up a good load over one insignificant app.
I use as little Google apps as possible. I use the native Samsung calendar instead. I use Gmail and Gmaps but Gmaps is a mess.
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If you can uninstall then reinstall it try that. Check it's permissions and if it's able to run in the background. A Google search may give you more solutions; doesn't have to be that model or even brand as the same issues tend to happen on many different Androids.
If that's the only problem I would find another app to replace it. Not worth screwing up a good load over one insignificant app.
I use as little Google apps as possible. I use the native Samsung calendar instead. I use Gmail and Gmaps but Gmaps is a mess.
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I tried to uninstall it but I was unable to. I couldn't even use titanium back to remove it for some reason. I should be able to remove it that way, right.
You have a valid point about not reseting over 1 app. Thanks
Blackhawks fan? Or you like the helicopter?
nabril15 said:
I tried to uninstall it but I was unable to. I couldn't even use titanium back to remove it for some reason. I should be able to remove it that way, right.
You have a valid point about not reseting over 1 app. Thanks
Blackhawks fan? Or you like the helicopter?
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Indian warrior actually.
"It has pleased the Great Spirit that I am here today— I have eaten with my white friends. The earth is our mother— we are now on it, with the Great spirit above us; it is good. I hope we are all friends here. A few winters ago I was fighting against you. I did wrong, perhaps, but that is past—it is buried—let it be forgotten.
Rock River was a beautiful country. I liked my towns, my cornfields and the home of my people. I fought for it. It is now yours. Keep it as we did— it will produce you good crops.
I thank the Great Spirit that I am now friendly with my white brethren. We are here together, we have eaten together; we are friends; it is his wish and mine. I thank you for your friendship.
I was once a great warrior; I am now poor. Keokuk has been the cause of my present situation; but I do not attach blame to him. I am now old. I have looked upon the Mississippi since I have been a child. I love the great river. I have dwelt upon its banks from the time I was an infant. I look upon it now. I shake hands with you, and as it is my wish, I hope you are my friends.
— --Address by Black Hawk, July 4, 1838, at Fort Madison.[41]
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This is what I get when I try to uninstall it using titanium backup.
That's interesting as it's not even present on my Samsung. With root permissions I would think you could uninstall it. However it may have dependencies.
Again I would bypass it by using another calendar app to replace it.

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